This was an AWESOME episode! I kinda used the Ammon approach at my new job, just doing everything i could to help out and be useful, and I'm convinced it encouraged more personal conversations with coworkers.

The understanding that Ammon approach and dealing with wayward children or people that don’t believe as we do- not to destroy the relationship but win hearts! So great.

Ammon, "VERY DIS- ARMING" what a fun dad joke, I can't wait to 😂😊 use it. Thanks for all your efforts

I love to think that the Lord sent Ammon for a different purpose, and so his approach was different. If Ammon hadn’t been put in prison, Aaron and the king son would not have met him on the road, and the king would not have been converted! I love that God uses every situation for our good and there is no wrong way if you’re doing the Lords work, I love this podcast so much thank you for so many great perspectives of understanding!

Awesome podcast!!

I love starting the morning with your podcast!

Your lesson this week was especially enlightening. Very good insights!!😊

These episodes are great. Thanks!

I love you guys!! I listen in my car and home! I learn so much! I even flew to Utah and hiked Bryce’s canyon! 😆

Thanks Mike and Bryce! Fantastic lesson!!!

Very good!!!! Thank you. Answered some of my questions!!!❤❤

I wonder if possibly those troublesome Lamanites who were mingling around with the crowd were just Lamanite bullies. Everyone feared them. Perhaps they are not unlike Alma and the sons of Mosiah before their conversion. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I can appreciate the take, but I wonder if we aren't jumping to conclusions with the idea that Ammon did it right and Aaron did it wrong ... Aaron's approach was similar to Abinadi's, and there was a lot of "Thus saith the Lord" in Abinadi's words. Also, you make a great point in showing how Lamoni's people were humbled because of the flock issue, whereas it was Aaron's lot to have taught a more hard hearted people, who were not humbled and prepared to the same degree. I think the Lord works with His children in many ways, and having all His ways available to us is good. Ammon's way may be the most appropriate for certain circumstances, but I hesitate to say it is the way we are supposed to do it, and Aaron's way was wrong.

What happened to "Make it a great week?" The podcast just isn't the same without it.😉 Seriously, I was amazed at so many of your thoughts today. Lots to digest here.❤

Perhaps the scattering of the flocks is a form of counting coup. The giving of the daughter to a new possible ally is a practice among various North American tribes. For Mike, if you carefully read Alma 18:26-19:14, Lamoni is going through his temple journey in 3 part space but all within his throne room. Yes I’ve listen to Dave and you on stick of Joseph and read his new book. We begin with the Ulam (faith, garden story, godhead, justice, carnal law), Hekal (hope, plan of redemption, Jesus, higher law, mercy, death) and Debir (charity, rebirth/resurrection, victory over sin, brought back into Eden and presence if God and the Tree of Life) all which results in total conversion. This happened with Alma the younger, and goes here also with the queen, and Lamoni’s father later on. Now I would postulate, because Ammon also falls unconscious, that perhaps up until this point he has gone through the two rooms, and it wasn’t until this time that he undergoes his own being brought through the veil into the holy of holies or the debir. We don’t know, there is no narrative on Ammon’s part whether that happens or not. Just my assumption because then it also finishes what Ammon and his other brothers had gone through, but we never saw or heard of them going through that unconscious state, seeing Christ and then coming back to life as it were being resurrected into a new redeemed self. Just some thoughts I’ve had.

With the weapons of the time it’s likely that when they say cut off the arms they actually mean the weapons, as in he disarmed them, not that there was a pile of men’s actual arms.

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I compare Alma 21 verse 4 through verse 13 as about 10 verses of Instagram.

Could you give me the D&C chapter and verse to the Stake Servant verses stake president. Thanks!! Appreciate your hard work!!❤

Why does the murders by Ammon get closed over by all these Podcasters?

I have a problem with the story of Lamoni and his father...prior to their conversion they were responsible for people's deaths but the text gives no record of accountability for those acts. It seems they are given a pass for unpardonable sins - in this case murder.

17:47 😂