Ep. 39: Requesting VFR Flight Following before Departure

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8 жыл бұрын

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Here we'll show you how to depart from a class Delta airport and request VFR flight following while on the ground before departure. This way you will already have your squawk code assigned and a departure frequency assigned to you before you take off from the class D airport. This is very similar to how you would depart a class charlie airport, receiving a squawk code and departure frequency before changing from ground to the tower frequency.
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@pettsnjam 2 жыл бұрын

The class C I fly out of will give you flight following even without requesting it on the ground when you call for clearance and they see your destination isn't local. Love they are trying to keep us safe up there.

@boogerwood Жыл бұрын

Great video. My bias is while on the ground to say "... ready for taxi with a VFR flight following request". That gives them a chance to be ready for the information (destination/altitude).

@nczim 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate your videos! You always seem to have the video I need! Planning my first XC to Class Delta trip as a cert pilot.

@airborneaerials-sarasotaae5581 7 жыл бұрын

Super helpful! Thanks for posting man!

@houstonfirefox 8 жыл бұрын

Amazing how many mid-time pilots I know who are dumbfounded by picking up FF on the ground. Most are used to doing it once airborne. The local controllers around Houston Class Bravo would much rather you pick up flight following on the ground - gives everyone a heads-up prior to you departing. Great video!

@TurboJenkins 4 жыл бұрын

I fly in the Houston area as well, out of hooks

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@gustavocazares7955 6 жыл бұрын

This videos are awesome, thank you!

@Steepo74796 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Never knew you could do this.

@kristinav2283 6 жыл бұрын

I love your videos! I'm learning to fly in Alaska and I'm always jealous of your snow and ice-free runways. As a student pilot I'm always nervously trying to avoiding a prop strike on small snow berms the plows miss or big snowballs they leave behind on the taxiway.

@mcshiggitypilot5901 6 жыл бұрын

Great info, lots to absorb here.

@sewcrazed6331 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I'm a student in Flint who's freaked out by Detroit airspace. This helped relieve that anxiety.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome! The Detroit controllers are all really cool, especially the approach controllers. If you ever get over to that area, call up the tower manager and ask for a tour, they'll take you up into the cab and you can meet the guys and see how it all works.

@JimPaar 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, love picking up flight following

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Safe Flying!

@jqvist529 4 жыл бұрын

Beautifully presented!! Thank you so much!! As a VFR pilot in the "wilds" of the West this has been so helpful to knock the rust off as I fly here in busy Florida!!

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 жыл бұрын

Happy that it helped ya!

@vadermike7772 7 жыл бұрын

Loved the video. I liked the part where atc gives you the squak code while you are taxiing, and you enter it while moving, and i am thinking how my instructor would have yelled at me if i was to do that , and then sure enough, 1 second later, you put the caption over the video to say proper procedure is to not do this while moving, good job!

@jakew9887 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video. Thanks

@cristianacosta7837 8 жыл бұрын

Great video! Really helped! Thank you!

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

+Cristian Acosta Glad it helped! Let us know if you have any questions!

@michaelhusken8572 8 жыл бұрын

I just found your channel and subscribed. I'm originally from the Detroit area but currently living in Grand Prairie, TX. I am a student pilot with approximately 22 hours. I'm training in a Cessna 150.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Keep studying and flying! You can check out the website fly8ma.com too where we are making the videos a little more organized.

@tanifaro 7 жыл бұрын

Just awesome mate!

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

@pmariahazy 3 жыл бұрын

Well done....

@jirorosan4 6 жыл бұрын

What a great video!!! Thank you very much always :D

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 жыл бұрын

Really glad to hear it all helps out! Good luck with your training and be sure to share our new site with your friends on Facebook and around the airport! www.fly8ma.com/

@mikah4051 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful.

@nickrapitis4896 6 жыл бұрын

Good video,very helpfull on how to get flight following and when to contact the assigned departure and approach tower.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 жыл бұрын

Glad it helps! Be sure to share us on FB and with your friends around the airport!

@marcella2mm160 7 жыл бұрын

Your teaching mode and videos are awesome.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Safe Flying!

@rodolfocastro65 7 жыл бұрын

Marcella Martineau I agree with you!

@GreenGuyDIY 5 жыл бұрын

Great info and comment about waiting to stopped to roll in the squawk. One note: I would suggest doing the run-up before pulling up to hold short for two reasons. 1) Keeps you out of the way of other who are truly ready to roll past the hold bars, 2) keeps you pointed more into the wind for the sake of the engine. Great pointer about positioning to see aircraft on final.

@carlosw2006 4 жыл бұрын

Am I mistaken>>> Positioning to see aircraft on final and positioning into the wind are usually two different directions, except on a calm day (like this video).

@LarryPortouw 2 жыл бұрын

I"ve always been denied VFR flight following from the ground in the Phoenix, AZ footprint. They launch you and tell you to call Phoenix approach when airborne. Scottsdale, Chandler and Falcon.

@kylierogers9162 6 ай бұрын

A little later reply bad but good to know as I was going to try this at KCHD. Guess I’ll stick to Phx approach.

@sergiovidal-luengo3261 5 жыл бұрын

I should have seen this before, this is the same airport where I'm getting my private license.

@michaelgronau6943 7 жыл бұрын

I've started my lessons outta Ann Arbors airport through Solo Aviation. I will be using your channel if I need to reference anything with in the area before my lessons.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Good luck up there! Give Michigan Flyers a look to, they've got a pretty good set up there for inexpensive rentals and some really good instructors as well!

@hansmasing 7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly where I'm doing my flight training. :D (Michigan Flyers)

@superevostevo 2 жыл бұрын

so cool that's my home airport where i take flight lessons

@danielmatthews5759 2 жыл бұрын

same, cool to see

@paulwoods4394 2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping you would take this to your destination airport. At some point you need approval to change frequency from Flight Following to your arrival airport tower. I wanted to see how you handled that.

@mikeladner4798 7 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. I got my private many years ago, but recently had to quit flying due to medical reasons. I wish these had been available back in the 80's.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Hope to see you in the skies again!

@GreenGuyDIY 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry disreadard #2 but you could have done the pre-takeoff prior to pulling the hold.

@dolbyized 6 жыл бұрын

thank you for your video I learned a lot!

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 жыл бұрын

Really glad to hear it all helps out! Thanks for watching and be sure to share our new site with your friends on Facebook and around the airport! www.fly8ma.com/

@-AV8R- 6 жыл бұрын

1st call should have been Detroit Departure not Approach. Nice video

@maxbootstrap7397 5 жыл бұрын

What's the point of flight following (or even ELTs in all but fatal crashes) when a pilot carries a Garmin InReach Explorer+ that automatically reports exact position every 5 or 10 minutes?

@gingyisyeet3330 2 жыл бұрын

Why you fly in right seat?

@AaronWbirdman 4 жыл бұрын

Can this be done at a pilot controlled airport by calling departure directly?

@sammalone7352 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you are still monitoring this bud -but a question from an aspiring pilot What happens with flight following once you get out of controlled airspace and into uncontrolled? Are you on your own until the next controlled airspace? (Assume VFR)

@jorgepalacios7654 3 жыл бұрын

when you request VFR following are you cleared DCT to your destination no matter the airspace ahead?

@danielglattfelder7002 2 жыл бұрын

If clearance delivery doesn’t have a freq. published at your class delta would you just call them on the phone

@sirjosefofhessen4527 Жыл бұрын

Vfr flight following is like special vfr clearance?

@user-re3yn2kl3o 6 жыл бұрын

What moving map are you using in this video?

@hoganj471 7 жыл бұрын

Recently I was under vfr flight following to KBJC for landing. I was getting very close to the airport and did not hear anything from flight following. I finally asked for frequency change to get clearance for landing at KBJC. My question is did I need to ask for frequency change ? Did ATC forget about my intentions? Did flight following relay to KBJC that I was coming in to land? Thanks, good videos.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Often times they will hand you off, but remember with flight following you are pretty low on their priority list and they've got other things going on. They may also delay handing you off til conflicting traffic passes you. Overall, whenever you decide you want to talk to someone else, like CTAF or Unicom, simply request the frequency change and say so long. If you just want to go off frequency for a moment for something like getting the weather, ask to go off frequency for moment and they'll generally approve that and tell you to report back on. As long as you can get a word in edgewise on the frequency I would always ask for the frequency change before just changing over (lots of reasons behind that, few too many to list in the comments section of YT). Safe flying out there! Be sure to share our site with your other aviation friends! -Jon

@toyztoyz2000 4 жыл бұрын

it's worth mentioning once on the ground at a class Bravo airport that Flight Following for VFR departure clearance is required. It took me 15 minutes at Orlando International (yes KMCO) contacting Ground before she was nice enough to tell me I needed the flight following on Clearance delivery before she could give me taxi instructions. Wish someone would have told me this before I landed there. Was a great learning experience and hope it helps someone else.

@DonSulli 3 жыл бұрын

CFI training with the right seat?

@davidteen14 6 жыл бұрын

What happens when you leave their airspace? Will you still be on frequency with them until your destination or they will handle you to another controller? Thank you !

@faabound 6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the Airspace setup. They may say "Radar Service Terminated, Squawk and Maintain VFR, Fequency change approved" then you are on your own. You would need to establish comm on your own for any subsequent control agencies you need. Or they may give you the comm change to the next controller. Eventually the controller will terminate you.

@arnofontana2036 6 жыл бұрын

Hello from Belgium! I have a question regarding flight following: what if you are not going direct to your destination? Suppose you have 2 or 3 turning points not on the direct line, for sightseeing for example. How and when do you explain that to the controller?

@lewisplant9748 5 жыл бұрын

Arno Fontana You would say “via” and then your waypoint. But in Belgium there is no flight following, Europe has what we call Basic Service and different advisory services - they are similar mostly but better then Flight Following.

@brianbrickley8229 7 жыл бұрын

I learned at Ann Arbor and keep my plane at 75G now. Question: If I am on flight following does that automatically mean I am cleared through controlled airspace? For instance I want to fly over to the west side of Michigan and that could take me through Jackson delta airspace as well as Kalamazoo depending on altitude. If I am using flight following will I need to contact those towers to pass through? Will I need to hear ATC clear me through those airspaces? Hope that makes sense. Thanks

@davidgrier403 7 жыл бұрын

Brian Brickley Approach will USUALLY coordinate with the tower. Personally, I ask the controller if I am cleared thru class D before entering their airspace. Always verify clearance into Bravo and read back the clearance.

@stardust6773 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'd like to know if after clearance (ground) gave you the squawk code he told you to contact tower or you did it by yourself while holding at rwy 24. Your videos are awesome btw.

@ritchierich2820 5 жыл бұрын

From my experience you usually just switch over while holding short of the rwy.

@kyleschieler1298 3 жыл бұрын

His Departure Airport is Class D, sometimes ground and tower are the same Frequency.

@ambarish0desai 6 жыл бұрын

is that a phone or a handheld GPS device ? either case, can you please tell me more about it.

@luketeng9398 5 жыл бұрын

Ambarish Desai obviously it’s a smart phone

@laser31415 5 жыл бұрын

How do you understand ATC talking so fast? I have rewind a couple of times to get it.

@rhysdavies8906 4 жыл бұрын

You just get used to it, you can always ask them to repeat or slow down if something isnt clear. But after a couple months of practice in controlled airspace it wont be difficult to understand them on the first try at this speed.

@johnblank8443 4 жыл бұрын

What is the plane tail number he and she are saying throughout the video? I am hearing "3 right yankee". What is it instead of "right"?

@leannevas1354 3 жыл бұрын

@n124lp 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Just curious, why are you flying from the right seat when alone in the aircraft?

@michaeltisellano9298 4 жыл бұрын

haven't you ever recorded a video before?

@lucasdavis4198 4 жыл бұрын

Because he is the instructor and has it set up for you to be in the left seat .

@Blitz1015 8 жыл бұрын

I fly out of nearby Mettetal. If you wanted to get flight following out of an uncontrolled field, would you just contact departure on the ground and make a normal call mentioning you were on the ground?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

Yes, you could use the RCO for the field to try and contact Detroit Approach, can't remember off hand if 1d2 has an rco but it would be in the AFD if it did (now called the chart supplement). If there's not an RCO you can always use a landline if you really wanted to get the squawk on the ground.

@Blitz1015 8 жыл бұрын

+FLY8MA.com Flight Training If it does have an RCO, I've never used it. Could you just tune 118.95 in the plane and call them on the gound right before take off?

@hankbrown2871 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do this at a non-tower'd field by calling the appropriate approach controller on a cell phone? How much time do you have after they give you the discrete code?

@hankbrown2871 3 жыл бұрын

I'm answering my own question here. Never mind, I see you have a video on that very subject. I'm watching it.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 3 жыл бұрын

Let us know if you have any questions! Cheers.

@pERLSweatshirt 7 жыл бұрын

At your cruise altitude of 3500 ft, on a direct 179 degree course from ann arbor to wood county, you pass through the Toledo Class charlie airspace. Did you fly around the Charlie or did FF guide you through it? Im still confused on when to use the FF service.

@orlandospencer 7 жыл бұрын

B P From my understanding. Unlike class B class C airspace do not need specific clearance to enter. What is require is two communication( talking to a control center) and transponder with mode C. Since he was always talking with departure his entrance in the class C would be implied unless otherwise stated by the ARTCC. Hope my little answer helped.

@petethecatable 7 жыл бұрын

Orlando O. Spencer I™ Actually, you DO need to establish two way communication before entering Class C airspace.

@cliffbrown8860 6 жыл бұрын

FF will guide you through it. FF is available to VFR at any time. Good at night - good for cross country. Not needed for pattern exercises. Make sure and ask for flight following BEFORE you leave the ground. ATC pet peeve....

@2janalicia 8 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but I found it a bit confusing. Who were you talking to? When were you talking to the tower and when with departure for flight following? I couldn't tell when you switched to the tower for take off instructions? And I was taught I shouldn't leave the tower frequency until out of Class D airspace!?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

I stayed with ground frequency until up to the holdshort line with the run up complete, then switched to tower. After departure the tower advised me to contact departure (at that point departure takes on the responsibility of separating you from IFR traffic). This is what you will experience in Class C and B airports as well, where they will "hand you off" to departure 30 seconds to a minute after takeoff, regardless of the boundary of that airports airspace. Keep in mind "tower" and "departure" coordinate with each other via landlines so everything works out smoothly.

@pilotavery 7 жыл бұрын

FLY8MA.com Flight Training I like to switch to tower when I start my run-up so I can paint a mental image of where traffic is before I depart.

@davidgrier403 7 жыл бұрын

Avery Kucan Same here.

@NiteBongoLand 6 жыл бұрын

John... Much appreciate for this video... This is exactly what I was looking for and I guess it's my lucky day because this is my home base KARB. :-)... Talking of luck it looks like you got lucky when you asked for VFR flight following from ground. We tried doing from ground but we were told to contact Detroit App. when we are airborne... So going to try again and hoping to get different controller... It makes a different doing from ground than in air... Also quick question... Did you file and open flight plan with FSS or you just requested for VFR flight following directly?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 жыл бұрын

Just did VFR flight following, if I filed a flight plan with FSS I'd probably forget to close it and get a phone call. lol

@vinsavi 5 жыл бұрын

what is the controller saying at 6.55 voice to text translates like...metro 3002 . what is that 3002

@jeffcramer6722 5 жыл бұрын

Altimeter setting I think

@ritchierich2820 5 жыл бұрын

30.02 is the altimer setting for the metro airport

@KiDstoltz 17 күн бұрын

What’s the benefits of having a VFR flight following?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 16 күн бұрын

Hey! The benefits include getting emergency assistance, weather advisories, course deviations, or even just having an extra set of eyes in the sky!

@KiDstoltz 16 күн бұрын

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 the Steps to getting VFR clearances are different for each class of Airspace?

@waylandr 6 жыл бұрын

I have watched a number of flight following videos to learn how to request it but all seem to be doing direct to flights. Can you request a flight with a waypoint in it creating a dogleg route such as if you want to go from AKR Akron, OH to Lowell in Michigan without going over Lake Erie? Thanks

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 жыл бұрын

Sure....just let them know airborne what route you want to fly ...could be as simple as advising them you're going to "follow the shoreline". Flight following is just advisory....not a clearance, you don't have to stick to a certain route unless told to do so by ATC

@buddha65281 4 жыл бұрын

as a learner, I find this very nerve-wracking... ATC can wreck your life if you make a mistake. I hope as I continue to learn I become more at ease communicating with them, I am positive it will become easier to fully understand everything they say but that is why we are learning. This was a good video but was "real-time" so a bit too quick... Thanks so much...

@MattSwinden 4 жыл бұрын

Just remember - ATC works for YOU. You are not there for THEM!

@jeffdo9195 7 жыл бұрын

most class "D" wont coordinate on the ground unless a class C or B. from my experience

@faabound 6 жыл бұрын

Can you explain that please, I'm confused

@jeffdo9195 6 жыл бұрын

Simple they will not provide services like there are doing for him leaving his class D it must be a slow airport and have time on their hands to coordinate try doing that at Los Angeles area for the Phoenix area good luck you'd only be able to pick up flight following in the air

@nyankfan04 5 жыл бұрын

The controllers at a class D airport don't want to handcuff the approach controllers (at a different facility) into providing flight following. At a class C, the approach is usually combined with the tower.

@juicenot2481 8 жыл бұрын

why are yo flying from the right seat? Trying to get used to it for CFI?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 8 жыл бұрын

Mostly so students can see the controls moving on the right side without me in the way. I think I recorded this a few years ago just before or after I got my CFI.

@juicenot2481 8 жыл бұрын

+FLY8MA.com Flight Training that's an excellent idea!

@heyopey 5 жыл бұрын

FLY8MA.com Hi there, love ur videos..i am a VFR PPL and perhaps you could help me. My home airport is KFPR . i usually get my atis then contact ground for flight following. they then give me taxi instructions and want me to taxi. every time after i start taxing they come back with the flight following instructions and i have to write it down while i am taxiing and i really don't like that. how would you tell them that you would like to get the flight following instructions { squak, departure freq. and so on} first and then the taxi clearance? thanks in advance wolfgang

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 5 жыл бұрын

Hey there! If you have time, send me a quick email to fly8ma@gmail.com where I'll be able to answer more efficiently. Thanks for checking out the channel!

@Itsmeeman1 7 жыл бұрын

ATC speak far too fast

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

They do! But you can always ask them to slow down and they will, at the end of the day they work for the pilot.

@pilotavery 7 жыл бұрын

Itsmeeman1 You get used to it.

@b-i-c7969 5 жыл бұрын

Damn, VATSIM audio quality fucking sucks compared to this.

@planewire2153 7 жыл бұрын

Notam coyotes in vicinity da fuk

@hansmasing 7 жыл бұрын

Birds and deer, too! It's on every ATIS warning in KARB. Deer on the runway at night is a real thing. :D

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 7 жыл бұрын

Lol, just ask the Archer that met one on RWY 6 and got totaled.

@utactiveuser 3 жыл бұрын

speaking fast won't represent you as a good pilot. making fewer mistakes does. 1- read back frequency eighteen, ninety-five??!!! what about one one eight "point" niner fi'f'e? :D Second: Detroid "approach"???? it's Detroit Departure dude. that's why ATC corrected you. please stop putting bad videos. overall good but so many mistakes.