Ep. 6: Ecumenism

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11 жыл бұрын

"That they may all be one..." Vatican II makes breakthrough strides in ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue. Discover how the Council has inspired and helped to cultivate relationships between the Church and other denominations and faiths. Includes in-depth commentary from theologians Dr. Richard Gaillardetz, Msgr. John Strynkowski, Rev. James Massa, Rev. Robert Imbelli -- as well as personal interviews with Edwin Cardinal O'Brien (Grand Master of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem), and Marco Impagliazzo (President of the Community of Sant'Egidio in Rome).

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@CoxJoxSox
@CoxJoxSox 8 жыл бұрын
Let's first make an effort to reunite with the Orthodox Church, which is truly a tradition to be admired.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
If the Eastern Orthodox Churches would return to the True Church we would welcome them back with open arms. And they could keep their beautiful liturgies. The Copts of Egypt recently returned and were welcomed. Take heart---Our Lady of Fatima said that one day Russia would be converted. If the Russians convert perhaps the Greeks, Serbs, and other Orthodox would also.
@Regis596
@Regis596 4 жыл бұрын
First, they would have to check up their orthodoxy on dissolubility of marriage, and get free of the grip the secular powers have over the orthodox churches.
@bozarts22
@bozarts22 2 жыл бұрын
that's what Vat II does!!
@nathancoleman7235
@nathancoleman7235 2 жыл бұрын
You said a mouthful Nikki Amen!
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 3 жыл бұрын
The video is a wonderful outreach itself. I am inclined to a high confidence in the sincerity of Reverend Massa. I believe that the Holy Spirit plants and nurtures the desire and skills in every Christian to be in that status that wherever two or more are gathered in His Name, the Lord indeed is present with them, and they sense it, divine mystery that that is. This promise of our Lord I believe transcends the limitations of our personal understanding of the richness of the faith. Lacking the completion of our transformation, it is no wonder that our respective rationalizations diverge. But are they not headed for the same Kingdom? My thanks to all who produced this presentation.
@terrenosanber9212
@terrenosanber9212 2 жыл бұрын
Should be the next pope
@deybalingit4719
@deybalingit4719 8 жыл бұрын
God is unity not division but protestant creates division because of thousand of denomination
@ilovecegiii
@ilovecegiii 7 жыл бұрын
How do we accept false religions, while still evangelizing to them? Excepting a false religion seems to be worse than accepting gay marriage or abortion. Shouldn't we lovingly tell those who aren't a part of our church, that we are the way to the truth? This is what we do with most serious topics, and it seems this topic is the most serious... yet it is not being treated as so. Someone please tell me what I'm not seeing. I know the magisterium is wiser than I am.
@ramonpena8448
@ramonpena8448 4 жыл бұрын
@TraditionalCatholicthoughts I believe that there is no salvation outside our holy church. But may I ask why? It's a truth I believe but still need teaching on it. Pax Vobiscum
@markcharron
@markcharron 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps because, like the bishops determined, simply saying "come back to us" didn't lead to any protestants actually coming back to the church. Meanwhile, I'm a convert to Catholicism largely because of the New Evangelization that Traditionalists love to hate so much.
@sanctealphonse4510
@sanctealphonse4510 5 жыл бұрын
The title of this video should read: "Vatican 2: The Catalyst of the Current Apostasy"
@simongleaden2864
@simongleaden2864 6 жыл бұрын
Ruined by the intrusive and unnecessary background music. I gave up after 10 minutes.
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 2 жыл бұрын
Great tragedy occured when RCC participated in a Native American pagan ceremony in Canada and the Panchamma Incan idol worship that took place at VATICAN AMAZON SYNOD October2019. Idol worship is not allowed for Catholics and idol worship is against the BIBLE.
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 2 жыл бұрын
What is with the choir music in the background. ? Why is this lecturer/professor talking strange ?
@IbnShahid
@IbnShahid Жыл бұрын
That would be an ecumenical matter.
@nathancoleman7235
@nathancoleman7235 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@peaveawwii1
@peaveawwii1 10 жыл бұрын
How can you heal fragments in the One Church by inviting heretic Protestants. Once a person is a heretic they are not in the Once Church but are outside the Church and you invite those outside the Church to help heal it??? This makes no sense
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
Ecumenism is supported by Cathokics who don't really believe in the Catholic Church. Jesus commanded the apostles to evangelize, not to ecumenize.
@stephenjohnson9632
@stephenjohnson9632 4 жыл бұрын
George Penton ecumenical discussions brought me into the Catholic Church. Animosity and treating Protestants like Samaritans is NOT what Christ desires.
@peaveawwii1
@peaveawwii1 2 жыл бұрын
@Alex Carlson I studied the work of Martin Luther and he had some very valid points and criticisms however I cannot agree with his solution. There will always be corruption in the Church just as there was among the twelve. I fear the Catholic Church has fell after the Second Vatican Counsel and we are living in the the time spoken of by Our Lady of Fatima.
@terrenosanber9212
@terrenosanber9212 2 жыл бұрын
Liked or not...its a human right...to choose what to believe in.
@CoxJoxSox
@CoxJoxSox 8 жыл бұрын
Luther pleaded with his followers not to break away from the Catholic Church on his deathbed. The Catholic Church already had it's own Counter-Reformation in the 17th century - I think those who break away from Christian teachings need to find their own way back to the fullness of faith.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
Nick, I think you got something confused. It was not Luther, but his right hand man Philip Melancthon, who wrote to his dying mother and told her to stay Catholic. "Our religion is better to live by but their religion is better to die by." Luther stayed obstinate to the end and at least two saints, one of them Padre Pio, say that he is in Hell.
@Aidan_Spalding
@Aidan_Spalding Жыл бұрын
And just let half of Christendom fall into fires of Hell? Because of a misunderstanding? No. We need to talk with them. Reason with them. Help them to see the theological errors of the so-called Reformation. Yes, they must ultimately be the ones to make the change, but we can certainly do some things to aid them in that journey. +God bless+
@Aidan_Spalding
@Aidan_Spalding Жыл бұрын
@@georgepenton808 In the Bolgia of the Schismatics, no doubt.😉
@elingeniero2000
@elingeniero2000 8 жыл бұрын
did he say "removing obstacles that are doctrinal "12:18I'm sorry without doctrine there is no need for the Catholic Church that protestant church across the street allows me to remain in sin be that adulterous "marriage" or contraception and they have better Music. We have the Eucharist Mary the Apostles though succession and only we have the Assurance that we will triumph against the gates of Hell. All of these are "doctrinal obstacles"
@Soundofmusic777
@Soundofmusic777 8 жыл бұрын
+Alejandro Murguia The first and foremost doctrinal obstacle is the "only we..." discourse and the assurance about one's own righteousness and triumph... This is certainly not the doctrine that will save you. Also, you must be ignorant of the fact that the reason why the Catholic Church changed its image and discourse after Vatican II is because finally Protestant criticism was humbly and constructively admitted, and Protestants such as Cardinal Newman contributed to the regeneration of the Church's identity. Otherwise, today you would still be hearing Mass in latin, be considered as a second zone individual because you are a lay person, and identify the Church with the visible power institution. All these aspects have been radically revised in the CCC, Lumen Gentium, and other Catholic documents -- thanks to the ideas of the Reformation.
@chessgeek10707
@chessgeek10707 7 жыл бұрын
I also winced when hearing the comment at 12:18. However, the people are meant to be united under God. We won't get anywhere towards meeting that goal if the Church just shuts out atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, Protestants, and otheres that vary in their creeds.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
John Kay, the Church never shut any of those people out. She always welcomed them with open arms when they converted. "Unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter the kingdom of God ", said Jesus.
@EndoftheTownProductions
@EndoftheTownProductions 6 жыл бұрын
All of the concessions were made by the Catholic Church.
@mrsalvatore1234
@mrsalvatore1234 Жыл бұрын
This is a very liberal view of unitates redintegratio. I'm with Pius XI. Ecumenism is to apologise to God for the scandal of division and to return to the chair of Peter.
@michaelcaza-schonberger9282
@michaelcaza-schonberger9282 8 жыл бұрын
You want to talk about Jewish-Catholic relations, why not talk about why how the church (council of Nicea) made an edict that forbade Messianic Jews to live out their faith in a Jewish way? As a Messianic Jew, from an orthodox background I find it hard to accept what Rome is saying because of the fact that all Jewish Catholics aren't allowed to keep Saturday nor the feasts as primary holy days, but have to keep Sunday and the other days instead. Acts 21 shows how Jews lived out their faith, living evangelical Jewish lives while still maintaining the precepts of the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15, 21:25).
@TIMROZIERLOCAL513
@TIMROZIERLOCAL513 8 жыл бұрын
I suggest you contact a Theologian (with knowledge of Patristics, Scripture, Early Church) in the Catholic Church. You will get an answer.
@daniel8728
@daniel8728 3 жыл бұрын
The Law is replaced by Jesus. Do you want foreshadows of Truth, or the embodiment of Truth?
@catholicguy3605
@catholicguy3605 4 жыл бұрын
The Jewish people have no covenant and will be denied at heavens gate for denying Christ. This was one of the largest mistakes from Vatican II.
@paeganlux
@paeganlux 9 жыл бұрын
Trying to convince myself that these "anti Vatican II" people in the comment section were alive in the pre vatican II era, and know what they're complaining about.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
Not Luther, not Calvin, not Photius, not Buddha, not Mohammed, not Confucius, but Jesus is the Light of the world. THE Light of the world. No one goes to the Father except by Him.
@anthonytan7134
@anthonytan7134 3 жыл бұрын
The buzzword...dialogue...even dialogue with the communist !!!????
@jondoe8036
@jondoe8036 5 жыл бұрын
Vatican II Total fail
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
Soon no one will be alive that can remember Vatican II, and Vatican II will be forgotten. More and more Catholics are seeing the absurdity of ecumenism.
@terrenosanber9212
@terrenosanber9212 2 жыл бұрын
It was a great meeting with the greatest minds...soldiers of God.
@christianjmj6460
@christianjmj6460 3 жыл бұрын
Vatican 2 is the problem.
@terrenosanber9212
@terrenosanber9212 2 жыл бұрын
A problem for many people against the christians
@gloriah.f.m
@gloriah.f.m Жыл бұрын
E una rotura con la chiesa ⛪️. Ocupado la sede apare lupo 🐺 vestito di pecora 🐑. Non e la chiesa di Cristo e la massoneria
@josephkiberas8025
@josephkiberas8025 4 жыл бұрын
At least they agree they persecuted many Christians during the dark ages...I have a problem though, I don't trust the Roman Catholic since their doctrine is based more on their old Roman traditions...they tend to rely on their priests for guidance and not Christ... I also have a problem with bowing to their images and praying through the dead saints..
@jeffm.3575
@jeffm.3575 6 ай бұрын
90% of my extended family and friends have completely lost or left the Faith. A Good propaganda piece but the fact speak for themselves. This change was a veritable Modernist coup d'etat.
@cruznature7545
@cruznature7545 3 ай бұрын
It was not because vatican 2 they lost their faith it was modern liberalism.
@karlheven8328
@karlheven8328 2 ай бұрын
​@@cruznature7545My friend this liberalism is in fact the spirit of V II. Vatican II has many inaccuracies and ambiguous statements that were used on purpose to further a progressive agenda. So yes it was the effects of v II implementation that in fact led to the loss of faith.
@michaelcaza-schonberger9282
@michaelcaza-schonberger9282 8 жыл бұрын
Your church has gone the route of universalism for the most part. I say this because of the dialogues, allowing Buddhist, Hindu, and other prayers to be uttered in your gatherings. Need I remind you that salvation is found in Yeshua alone (John 3:16, as well as countless other verses found in Scripture)? When Paul was preaching in Acts 17, he addresses the altar to the unknown God. And says the time of ignorance has come to an end. I admit Vatican II made some great reforms, however there are things that introduced that aren't true to the Scripture. There are also other things you've held on to (baby baptizing, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the queenship of Mary, purgatory, and transubstantiation) that aren't Biblical and thus cannot be accepted as sound doctrine!
@TIMROZIERLOCAL513
@TIMROZIERLOCAL513 8 жыл бұрын
Good for you, and God Bless you on your continuing path to understand scripture. I assume from your profound certainty on Sacred Scripture you must have earned a doctorate in Sacred Scripture and the Early Church. Where did you obtain your education? Please tell us, inquiring minds want to know, and please feel free to critique the Catholic Church just as a Nazi would critique our Jewish brethren.
@georgepenton808
@georgepenton808 5 жыл бұрын
Michael, you are right, Jesus is the only way, and interfaith worship services are indeed an abomination, but since Jesus is the only way, and since Jesus founded the Catholic Church, that makes the Catholic way the only way. I recommend you read Pope Pius XI's excellent encyclical Mortalium Animos. I recommend it to all.
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