Tan Sri, not all Chinese businesses are passed down from generations. Most of us are still struggling 1st generation trying very hard to survive. Thanks to our hardworking culture passed down from our ancestors. Thanks for the good work.
@sue70143 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, I think Chinese businesses passed down from generations are coming to be a thing of the past. Most Chinese /Indian businesses now are 1st generation & we are struggling to survive. If this EMCO continue, then we really will close for good & join the B40.
@aqdestinyv3 жыл бұрын
@@sue7014 True. Those passed down now mostly no longer belong to Chinese. I used to work for Ban Hin Lee bank when I was young.
@elainelee27053 жыл бұрын
The Chinese businesses that can be passed down for generations have mostly diversified overseas. What's left here are those striving to make ends meet while fending for themselves all the way. It's a poor assumption on the panelist's part.
@ND-ki3gc3 жыл бұрын
Tan Sri enjoying life can't see people struggling
@thebaron81953 жыл бұрын
@@aqdestinyv browse thru the ownership of all the listed companies and you will find more than 90% are still chinese owned.
@wongsowching833 жыл бұрын
The country and her people need leaders with integrity and wisdom.
@cindyyeogc14093 жыл бұрын
We need leaders who fear God and love the Rakyat. We have bright and intelligent minds. Set their minds planning strategies to control Covid-19. Go down to the root cause. Besides vaccines, are there any drugs to treat Covid-19 and save our people from dying? If many other countries, esp India, have successfully managed Covid-19 by using Ivermectin, why not follow suit? Ivermectin is a FDA approved drug, used to treat head lice successfully in humans. It is cheap as it is without patent. Where are the priorities of our leaders? Are they not motivated to save the lives of Malaysians. Dont they fear God? Dont they love the country? Dont they realise that when they die, they cant bring along the money with them to hell or heaven, whichever may be. In God, we trust that our leaders will act rationally.
@Zim___3 жыл бұрын
Name one then
@jasonchow64753 жыл бұрын
@@Zim___ Non political leaders. Restore power to the monarchy and return to absolute monarchy. They have better leadership than what we have now
@aseantravels87723 жыл бұрын
22:50 A few days ago my wife observed an adult man and his small child (dont want to mention race) going trough the tong sampah for scraps of vegetables thrown away by traders at pasar borong seri kembangan. usually these are leftovers or almost spoiled vegetables unable to be sold or not fit for consumption. she came home in tears at the condition we have come to. meanwhile politicians are showing off eating maggi mee in social media to show how much they are relatable to the poor people.
@regretlater9293 жыл бұрын
That is a really sad story, kesian your wife had to witness such tragic circumstances by her own eyes. I live in area just behind that pasar borong. Many times the police and immigration do raid there, my heart always goes to those workers who get caught. Because what happen next is, their towkay will visit them at lock up, tell them they can be freed, for certain amount of money, and the towkay will deduct monthly from their salary to recover back the bailout money. The worker who agrees, goes home and back to work tomorrow. Those who don't, God knows what happened to them.
@mohdyusuffsharif9443 жыл бұрын
After maggi he went to turkey...really in poverty.
@muttusamylingam6862 жыл бұрын
rRRRRRR
@JWu-jt7fz3 жыл бұрын
Dear Tan Sri, why is there talk of allocation to bumiputera? We are all Malaysian. Help should be given to all Malaysians independent of their race. What is race? All of us will breathe our last breath and die - and then race will be nothing.
@jamestan82663 жыл бұрын
The word Bumiputras is sickening, it's embedded into their world. Pls. Show me, any group of learned Malays who openly disagree with the government on using bumiputras statues. The creator Dr. Tun M. He single handled ly destroyed the nation.
@androidhotlink3 жыл бұрын
he not full malay..he indian mamak ..but mamak mostly get bumiputera
@JWu-jt7fz3 жыл бұрын
@@androidhotlink Melayu, Cina, India, Sikh, Kadazan, Iban, Eurasian, mixed race, we are all Malaysian. We are all human. Race is a stupid concept
@MELAYUSIA3 жыл бұрын
@@JWu-jt7fz there's ketuanan Melayu in the government sector but ketuanan Cina is widely practiced in the private sector. Totally agree race is a stupid concept but there are many Malaysian Chinese who hold on to this concept when it's beneficial to them.
@JWu-jt7fz3 жыл бұрын
@@MELAYUSIA I agree 100%. I don't like ketuanan Cina folks at all as a Chinese dude
@kimothemo3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation by Dato Mydin.
@oppaceo3 жыл бұрын
Smart Businessman Mamak, have to filter his conversation; 80% is good feedback 20% is personal interest. Even the well connected insider Dato' who max the System for himself is worried, then whatmore for everyone else.
@fadliyaakob60013 жыл бұрын
Continue like this....more sectors will collapse.
@user-jm6bj1bd5w3 жыл бұрын
You are right ... But PN gov of Bersatu PAS UMNO... They don't care. Their position and kuasa and money.... Politician of both side are idiot... Not all of them.
@magesuari50763 жыл бұрын
The politicians should sit and discuss with retailers, virologist, infection control team to help the rakyat and businesses.
@ahmadshauki56123 жыл бұрын
The only person who is clean in this show is the Boss of Mydin. The other two were part of the KLEPTOMANIACS TEAM FLEECING THE COUNTRY SINCE 1981.
@bluestar22533 жыл бұрын
Stuju bang
@valaiyuthamsellappan50933 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your feed back and help Dato . Good job . CHEERS🌺
@zimzum673 жыл бұрын
crushing and emphatic episode. Thank you. Hope this goes out to the ears. Things need to change. 6000 deaths so far fought, but the wreakage and aftermath...
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
Not just the system. Getting through Hotline for MKN is like getting through hot line for Astro.
@MrTeoh61003 жыл бұрын
I'm 4 year working at Tesco and 4 year at Aeon jusco, 4 year as supplier for Aeon jusco. Let me tell you all the true... large retail struggle is padam muka ,they deserve it...Because they is high rebate charge in large retailer chain so lot supplier open sell at shopee or open he own supermarket like rosyam mart which previous is supplier. Lot small supplier can direct sell their products to consumer thru online without face with ego purchaser at large retailer chain. Retailer suffer because it out of trend and lose competition with online sales.
@norsidahyangyahaya68203 жыл бұрын
Oh dear , you are so clear n so right datuk wira maideen
@ogyatan62913 жыл бұрын
I really hope the government watch this video ....janganlah sibuk asyik berpolitik bertekak sana sini berebut kuasa!!!!!
@wongsowching833 жыл бұрын
People in the non essential sectors need to make money 💵 to survive.
@quahkeong3 жыл бұрын
Very true...i fully agree and support...
@kirubansimhapatha32493 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interview. So so good. Someone talking sense. Thanks again.
@ejang12343 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Let’s work together all Malaysians 👏
@kensen57613 жыл бұрын
Good insights from the stakeholders and businessman with the good acumen. Hope to have more quality interview session like this
@elainelee27053 жыл бұрын
Why do bumiputras still need handicaps?.. after all these years & NEPs?? Again, using 'social unrest' to discourage the non bumis to speak up for their rights as equal Malaysians. Sad to hear this from Dato
@karunakaranveeramuthu70813 жыл бұрын
Lazy and hand outs
@elainelee27053 жыл бұрын
@@karunakaranveeramuthu7081 I wudnt say the bumiputras are lazy. The handouts and handicaps do not reach alot of the real needy ones, the ones who really work hard to feed their families and improve their lives.
@jefrizainmatamata24573 жыл бұрын
I believe there is a discrimination out of the government system to non Chinese in the business. Sorry to say, but it is a reality. If every of us regardless what races play their roles and treated whoever's equall,. Malay, Chinese, Indian, IBAN, Kadazan will together remove the NEPs. This is true in our community. Jobs opportunity, businessess, loan bank, all concurred by one race in the private sector. It is very obvious
Good reviews on situation of retailers and suggestions on red and green bubbles . Hope the government would adopt wisdom in controlling the lockdown.
@donaldtrumpet30943 жыл бұрын
Extract from recent heartbreaking 💔 front liners video: “The lockdown is involving sectors that are not main cause of the rise of the cases. Whatever that are the major cause are not being locked down”. Agree with panelists blanket lockdown will kill the economy & with it people’s bread & butter for survival. Agree must swallow ego, listen to people in the know & learn from countries that manage the pandemic quite successfully.
@mistaboneka3 жыл бұрын
I feel that the govt ministers and officers are behaving like academic politicians. These guys talking they are streetsmart. People who are on the streets are the ones who are suffering. I guess the Mydin Chief is right, Covid is not the cause of people suffering. The policies implemented by the govt is making the rakyat suffer more.
@muslehatghani62753 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@maifors3 жыл бұрын
Very True Datuk Wira Ameer. I'm speechless.
@liewrichard43703 жыл бұрын
Hi Datuk your sharing is sweet to my ears. People like me are suffering because of co and taada suara to say anything to have any effect but knowing it affects people like even you and other big tycoons at least we know something will change. Tq
@nick.catolonia3 жыл бұрын
best dgr otai2 sembang.. sangat2 berinformatif dan reflektif
@ramashrajagopal3 жыл бұрын
Guest speaker is super. Very well explaining about what’s happening currently. And I don’t know why you want to have the Tan Sri Johan in this call. He is not suitable for this talk. Don’t put this DBP guy anymore. Doesn’t carry any value.
@expresenator3 жыл бұрын
agree 100%, please only invite guests who can contribute and add value!! similarly your episode 74 - you might as well have had a dialogue with rafidah (who was brilliant)!!
@kfapad663 жыл бұрын
Sad to Datuk Mydin teared up at one point.
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
Sad is when you see the poor man in the street without food, carrying white flag, lining up for good aid... The cry of the rich means little to me and a little to late.
@bktan31113 жыл бұрын
The banks n shops should not charge interest n rental or reduce it in this hard time. If banks don't charge , shop owners will also reduce the rentals. I remembered during 1987 time, i automatically reduced for my tenants cos i know its really hard. Just imagine at that time professionals also no job. Thats y i appreciate Tun Mahathir till today. He brought Malaysia up.
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
Our country is in trouble
@mymentakab3 жыл бұрын
One of the excellent interview.
@tancecilia18183 жыл бұрын
don"t say locals don't want to work Dato Mydin, if locals are paid a decent wage , of course we will work !!! but most bosses prefers to pay foreigners good salary pay for accommodations , OTs ...etc but locals just low wage
@muslehatghani62753 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Agreed2222222
@musicallymovieslovers35233 жыл бұрын
Country needs leader not based on race but capability and competency.
@laukiat90623 жыл бұрын
One more issue is the increase of medical insurance premiums at times like this..Insurance companies say they got approval from BNM for. the increase in premiums..tks
@thanalaxmi55083 жыл бұрын
They know how to capitalize on a weak situation and go for the 'kill'. In the end..... Money talks!.
@damansarajaya883 жыл бұрын
Govt insist on hiring local and bar foreign workers. I had the horrendous suffering of employing locals (for manual work) who are at least 30% more expensive AND 30% less productive than foreign workers!!!(use MC like holiday. No show after payday, etc etc) Performance dropped, cost went up and customers complained. From schooling system the government bungled and bred a handicap mentality depending on govt handouts. No focus on developing intelligence and productivity, force private sector to hire locals etc etc. Vomit blood.
@liv30873 жыл бұрын
43 years in business no vacation. Rich greed always act poor to weasel a lower price. Greed..
@mfd2283 жыл бұрын
Good for government servant, comparing to us.. Suffer to survive..
@sue70143 жыл бұрын
Yes at least government servant (those in the civil service) still get paid by taxpayers even during EMCO, some of us aren't so lucky as when we don't work, there is no money. Eventually, if the SME's cannot survive then they have to retrench their workers & close the company, then there will be more jobless people & no one to pay tax. Does the government realise that without taxpayers, economy runs to a standstill & then even the civil service won't get paid & where do you think the government will get money to hand out to b40's or for "essential services" to continue plying their goods when people don't have money to buy essential goods.
@pahatpahat95663 жыл бұрын
When we talk about the logistics situation in Malaysia, much of the delay is caused by non-existence of a national data system. Often, the flow is disrupted by the slow interaction among the various Government agencies, each trying to show that they are in control BUT without any accountability for any delays which they have caused. We have had spent so much in digitization but up-to-date none of the system can deliver! Such attitude comes about because every Minister is given the power to create his own silo so that he can maintain his power base at the expense of national interests! That is all!
@jut81463 жыл бұрын
Good observations from DW Ameer. One good aspect of DS Najib's administration was engagement with business groups. Never done before & not done since. Govt loves 'experts', who are expensive consultants, not practitioners.
@marielim15193 жыл бұрын
Agree prices of vegetables and fruits are very expensive..it not easy for ppl to survive actually unless all are working in the family..Hopefully our country could be able to manage n go thru all these issues n pandemic ..GOD Heals and blessed our land Malaysia..
@kenneth52013 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Dato Seri
@Ramy-ql3tr3 жыл бұрын
The current ministers were the same pirates from before. Different ships, same pirates.
@karunakaranveeramuthu70813 жыл бұрын
Well said sir you are Great
@laukiat90623 жыл бұрын
People are struggling to survive..
@bagavanmaruthamuthu36733 жыл бұрын
Not even struggling daily basis earning already die not anymore cashflow..
@bagavanmaruthamuthu36733 жыл бұрын
Only politicians enjoyable Life monthly payment.no deductions. Utility bills free.
@bagavanmaruthamuthu36733 жыл бұрын
Nice topics to discuss related to current issue financial problems.
@kandasamyganesan37023 жыл бұрын
Frank and friendly discussions. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts., experience and suggestions for the well being of Malaysians
@juliagan82553 жыл бұрын
Very well said Dato Mydin
@chipmunkeydog3 жыл бұрын
4.48 "we really have to do something' I'm sorry to say, En Ameer, your G'mt isnt listening and they don't care to do so Well commented and criticized on the real issue, nevertheless. Datuk CW, what this country really needs is more Industry leaders and KOLs coming out to view their displeasure of the way this country is being managed. Instead of we have to #kitajagakita and #SAYJAGEBISNESSSAYASENDIRI. Nobody DARES to be on the wrong side of the Gomen
@Dudwithblackprofile3 жыл бұрын
I can see how stressful tan sri johan listening to Dato Mydin... I also feel that wayyy.. Thinking it is really bad out there
@Kk-sx9ig3 жыл бұрын
We are in bakery shop is planning to close business are bad left 10-20% ,how to hire people working ,I think they are many like our shop,economy don’t know how long can be cover ,I think nobody know as well
@davecks30423 жыл бұрын
These are the people needed to be running the country . At least the ministers should consider their ideas . Hey politicians, Let’s work for the country and not just lining up your pocket . And also in billions .. omg
@Threshold3703 жыл бұрын
17:22 I am sorry to tell everyone whether high risk or low risk in my sejahtera makes no difference. the risk depends on user to self-report and update their condition that may have or not covid. No one stupid enough to make themselves high risk and go into mall to buy food. it doesn't have any capability to do contract tracing at all. When i was tested positive in april 21, kkm officer ask me to screenshot every mysejahtera scan and whatapps to him. WTF? KKM officer cannot pull data from server directly, not have any data analytics built-in? Mysejahtera is quite useless in current form.
@TheCheck33 жыл бұрын
3M people have been vaccinated. Why can’t they go to work. Some countries allow travelers to come in n not quarantine them at all. Why can’t we just let them work with strict SOP
@Mag67543 жыл бұрын
Well summoned .We love Malaysia. Let's pray & help one another in this trying time. We stand by our beautiful country.
@mfd2283 жыл бұрын
Before govt claim, whoever vaccinated for second dose, can travel here and there since e-passport provided.. What happen now..? If govt allow essential to operate, but they announce EMCO.. whats the point..?
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
To get vaccinated is not about travelling. Primary aim. If vaccination is to build herd immunity. Then slowly we can return to normal. Passport, travel can only proceed when the cases are down.
@aren31303 жыл бұрын
Well Said Tan Sri...you are the voice of the bottom line.Hope Datuk Johar bring those issues to the Authorities in charge.People are dying of stuffing.
@JoshAwang3 жыл бұрын
I would vote for Datuk Ameer any day...
@quahkeong3 жыл бұрын
Well, if datuk Ameer can be somebody in future...
@JoshAwang3 жыл бұрын
@@quahkeong for now, he's only the the humble boss of Mydin... lolol
@user-mx5zd7se4n3 жыл бұрын
You right dato. What happened to our country
@zulkiflimohamadyunus91263 жыл бұрын
Dato Ameer.... I can feel your heart from your tears. Keep your positive influence.
@Syedarmanandsaifbestfriend3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Tan Sri, Dato for the very ideas, good program.Jazakallahu khayr.
@SC-1013 жыл бұрын
they keep announcing bpr la bpn la and all those but who is really getting it?? Whats happened to M40? I understand B40 needs help and should be getting help, there are others too la. All these announcements are so stupid. Moratorium - need to apply - when said it's automatic. wheres their brains??
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
Ministry official have wonderful ideas but would the head, DG or minister listen? These heads are shy to ask the lower civil servants for those ideas...
@wongsowching833 жыл бұрын
Not shy but too arrogant to ask and not having the wisdom also.
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
@@wongsowching83 they powers to be, what we use to call those day... Bodoh sombong.
@chutorosushi19253 жыл бұрын
The custom authorities should have put in more staffs to clear the goods. Rather than let it rot at the port. That's too much
@SWandG3 жыл бұрын
The whole ecosystem collapses and the multiplier effect will still be at work. It will just spiral downwards more. Those sensible Datos and Datins of Malaysia should wake up and do something.
@toonpangboon85263 жыл бұрын
We are not a failed state, not yet. But we definitely have plentiful of failed politicians and enforcement authorities. At the going rate, the little light at the end of tunnel would most likely be the headlight of an approaching train. Good Luck.
@aimanhakim26623 жыл бұрын
Future leaders need to play oxygen not included, a management game. i love how foresight from competent elders.
@marielim15193 жыл бұрын
Agree ...why they closed the park..😂😂😂 ..mental stress cant go out at all..😂😂😂
@GanJinLan3 жыл бұрын
We Indian men will never give up......No matter what happen, we will continue to do investment and trading in Malaysia....We also will continue embrace technology method to making our life better......
@chiajoegm10453 жыл бұрын
If the goose that lay the eggs dies, there will be no more eggs.
@pengsenglee52793 жыл бұрын
As long as there is no political will to solve the country problem, no matter how much talking, the problem will be there. Everybody and very sectors have their own interest, at the end the poor citizens suffered.
@Threshold3703 жыл бұрын
11:05 Tan Sri Johan bin Jaaffar got roasted by mydin boss.
@SharizanBorhan3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Sessions. Informative and hits the point...because it need to hit where it hurts the most for a wake up call.
@teresapeet71463 жыл бұрын
CW, great guests, great talk, no regrets subscribing. 🙏and Jiayou💪💪💪
@noorezmi91923 жыл бұрын
terbaik, keep on boss
@hsc37283 жыл бұрын
Mydin's Datuk Ameer, you are most righteous with a strong points !!!!!!!! ......... one Chinese collapse equivalent to 10 Bumiputras that bound to collapse......!!!!!!! If other Bumiputras having your similar ideology, Malaysia will be the best region to live in and undoubtedly, harmony !!!!!!!!!
@quahkeong3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree and support lah Datuk Ameer...keep up your good work and support.
@lutongbaru91653 жыл бұрын
It’s good to see rich people talk 👍🏻. Easy to talk and demand anything if you have millions as backup for the next 50 years 👍🏻.
@thebaron81953 жыл бұрын
Stretching it a little bit too much. There is actually an increase in food consumption during the mco.
@nocturnalowl58673 жыл бұрын
Dato, what 30% quota for housing were you talking about? Allocation kah? So if you personally believe that it should increase to 60% giving non-Bumiputra only 40% then can you give an empirical study on how many housing development received more than 30% applications? Thanks.
@liyitwong56643 жыл бұрын
I think you need a balance view from a doctor. I am a doctor from nz. We got full lockdown of everything , except essential items, then we only open our economy. We succeeded. Lives is above all, livelihood comes later. Let me know if you need me to elaborate.
@adrix893 жыл бұрын
it was all good until he mentioned bumi
@prohabits3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good Ep. Chun Wai , could you get a media person covering COVID from Singapore / Hong kong / Malaysia to compare and share how they are managing the COVID
@Kk-sx9ig3 жыл бұрын
No wonder recently I bought fruit can’t last long n not fresh like before ,thanks Dato
@kennyyoutubifiction3 жыл бұрын
Politicians want to be BOSS
@ARUZ683 жыл бұрын
Wow the lack of consideration for migrant workers is ridiculous. Don't assume they are objects. Their health and welfare are as important. Ridiculous.
@kokteongtan2783 жыл бұрын
Mr Mydim -- our problem is education & politic
@probablythemostimportantth12203 жыл бұрын
Agree with you, there do it without brain
@ez220093 жыл бұрын
More EMCO / FMCO = bankrupt
@joechow93213 жыл бұрын
Malaysian have been lock down more than 2 month what did our Gov done to help Malaysian that suffer and lose income ?.Where our vaksin during this period?.Malaysian have been dying not due to covid but due to Pressure without enough income human willl grow crazy that true.I respect Mydin Boss he dare to speak the truth what actually happening .
@alhs763 жыл бұрын
very good interview on the state of affairs. Definitely better ways to manage the situation is required given that this is for the long haul
@solomonkok15393 жыл бұрын
Retail collapsed? Can you show us the consumer price index for the past 6 months? Inflation rate? Many products prices gones up. Ppl migrates to online purchase due to emco.
@Gemashero7952 жыл бұрын
Resources in Msia is enough for every Msian but not enough for greedy politicians
@yummycrepe3 жыл бұрын
If your business fail, it is someone else opportunity in future. But because of your business, good people will die, they will lost their future entirely. Stop talking about your retailer's interest. Don't be selfish. Stop shop for awhile and let the country recover. Even MCO cannot stop the onslaught of the pandemic, you think your government don't have headache is it. Please lah, this is soap opera for your self gain, period.
@karmabiteshard18463 жыл бұрын
Pfft.. he is cunning. He is more concerned about his wealth deterioration above anything else. Mydin became rich by Malaysians. Have you seen him giving back to the public during these times?
@beranihati20083 жыл бұрын
Businessman will always not see COVID as a problem. We can only bring in foreign workers when locals is fully vaccinated in sufficient numbers
@irenessfa97363 жыл бұрын
I love my multiracial country
@sazalimohamedsalleh39703 жыл бұрын
May Allah guides those in power in making the right decisions, may Allah place the really really qualified Incumbent in the key positions. In Allah we worship in Allah week seek help.
@user-ts4ik6we6h3 жыл бұрын
If number of people goes Into the shop is kept limited then it is still safe right. Why need to close instead?
@brandenburg23883 жыл бұрын
My only advice to this stupid government is this. "Let everyone work and live their lives normally"
@Hammett8493 жыл бұрын
Rakyat is 'offered' bakuls of junkfood to fight through this pandemic. Rakyat is begging, those idiots degrading them further. Current govt leadership is not just failed, disgustingly failed.
@marielim15193 жыл бұрын
Being lockdown they do not have essentials not only food things like daily toiletries too..
@hassanmusa63753 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we become wiser only when other people make mistakes.
@patricksaw74763 жыл бұрын
60% "because it is our country". Much of what is said makes sense. But this one assertion really grates , unfortunately. Even an ostensibly 'Malaysian' entrepreneur whose market is multiracial slips in views like this. Sad n disappointing.
@raymond27043 жыл бұрын
Let's not have anymore wide scale MCO but only targeted ones, otherwise many more businesses may collapse and thousands of people will become jobless. We must save our economy and people, who are penniless. This talk is a very honest one and hopefully, the authorities will listen and act accordingly
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
The MCO should have been done like last... Tight, then slowly open. This time MCO from May, June July... Was too lenient. Cases gone so high. Leniency now ain't gonna help. So I disagree with you.
@marcusfoo14793 жыл бұрын
@@danielphilip7315 It is already too late to do a tight MCO 1.0 now. Right now, our days are numbered. Cherish the people who are important to us. Life is way too short now. Please make them count.
@danielphilip73153 жыл бұрын
@@marcusfoo1479 OK, open and lose more lives.
@norsidahyangyahaya68203 жыл бұрын
Pensioners are lucky people , no comitments , chilren grown up , dont know what to do with money
@moneyst593 жыл бұрын
Hello get the definition of pensioners correct. Not all fall into your description.