EPG Review: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles

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ExoParadigmGamer

ExoParadigmGamer

Күн бұрын

It's time for what's widely considered the best Sonic game ever, at least in the classic series. Would Exo agree? Click on the play button and see! Unintentional rhyme for the win. I also provide some final thoughts on the classic Sonic series. I might do a short ROR episode for this one if a mobile remake does get released, but I wanted to give this game the review treatment now, along with the others. That being said, thanks for watching this marathon and I hope you'll consider subscribing. Just click on the bright yellow button at the end of the video. (-o⌒)
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@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 3 жыл бұрын
This video was made in 2014 with footage recorded from Wii Virtual Console, and the production was limited compared to what I can do today. Additionally, I was considerably less experienced with scriptwriting and editing than I am now. If I were to remake this video today, it would be much higher in footage quality and I probably would've ironed some things out. I'm not too fond of it myself, but a lot of people disagreed and asked me to keep it public, so here we are. If I can get the capacitors in my Triple Bypass Genesis replaced, I might redo this video. Also, Sonic 3 Angle Island Remastered is a thing now.
@hyperflowey2564
@hyperflowey2564 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for unprivating this video as well as the rest of the CS videos, Exo. The Classic Sonic RoRs mean a lot to me, as they were the first videos I ever watched from your channel. I know these videos haven't aged the most gracefully, but they still hold a special place in my heart, the part at 23:09 was helpful in teaching meto acknowledge both the good and the bad in video games. You make great, analytical content and I look forward to your future content. By the way, how is the Metroid RoR going? Also I noticed the EPG Fans Discord link seems to be blocked, would you care to explain why?
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 3 жыл бұрын
Anytime “ROR: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles Vs. Sonic 3: Angel Island Revisited (Sega Genesis Vs. PC)” comes out, considering the fact that Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) is one of his favourite video games up to the ranks of Spyro 3 (although he’s also very acknowledgeable that even the best video games like those can have a minor nitpick sometimes), it would be impossible for him to give their remakes a “Replace” score, so when he gives A.I.R. a score, it’s likely to be a “Remake” score for being just about as first-rate as the original S3&K!
@hyperflowey2564
@hyperflowey2564 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieranstark7213 I'm pretty sure that Exo changed his mind on S3&K recently, now Sonic 1 seems to be his favorite classic Sonic game because of his tastes in level design. It's kind of interesting looking back on these reviews and seeing how different Exo's opinions were.
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyperflowey2564 Then it might just get a Replace in the future, but as for the original S3&K, I’m sure he’d always be a fan of it, or at least he would use to back when he made this video that outside of its premodern technology, I couldn’t agree more with in terms of literally everything he said (except for Colours, Generations and Lost World being great Sonic games. I, however, think that they range from decent (Colours & Generations) to meh (Lost World).
@hyperflowey2564
@hyperflowey2564 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieranstark7213 The thing is, though, for a while Exo's felt ambivalent about S3&K/CD-like level design with a million different pathways and a bunch of different directions that the levels can go in, and the release of Mania accentuated that for him. It's kind of hard to say whether or not he'll merely now just have appreciation for what 3&K does right despite its drawbacks.
@SamnissArandeen
@SamnissArandeen 9 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes, it's worth taking the bad with the good if it means enjoying something that's worth enjoying." I'll always keep that quote in mind.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
Samniss Arandeen I'm glad someone noticed it. Thanks for commenting.
@JuanAguilar-sl9ow
@JuanAguilar-sl9ow 7 жыл бұрын
+Cj Mitchell a game that i am not that interested in that everyone else is
@GoldenTerrabyte
@GoldenTerrabyte 6 жыл бұрын
Jeez, I wish I could just shout this from the rooftops. It's not even just the Sonic fanbase, but gamers in general recently seem like they really need to hear this. I'm seeing a lot of this among Pokémon players who feel the need to shit on either the new games or the old ones.
@Tiggster-qr8mw
@Tiggster-qr8mw 5 жыл бұрын
That is a damn good quote. One of exio’s many excellent quotes, i think
@Mr.Savage565
@Mr.Savage565 5 жыл бұрын
Truly wise words.
@Treyworld
@Treyworld 8 жыл бұрын
I apologize in advance if someone already pointed this out but Tails can jump just as high as Sonic in this game. Knuckles is the one with the shorter jump.
@SallyPuppy123456
@SallyPuppy123456 7 жыл бұрын
I hate Knuckle's shorter jump so much... when I play as Knuckles in Sonic 2, he is my worst character because of the short jump... it's sad how one of the best characters in the series has a bad gameplay style...
@SallyPuppy123456
@SallyPuppy123456 7 жыл бұрын
***** Tails still ends up being my favorite tbh.. his fly is just extremely useful for breaking the game
@SallyPuppy123456
@SallyPuppy123456 7 жыл бұрын
Well, if Kmuckles wasn't slower or jumped lower, he woukd be my favorite..
@SallyPuppy123456
@SallyPuppy123456 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah..
@Anquavaous
@Anquavaous 7 жыл бұрын
Treyworld ExoParadigmGamer
@OnemarioOLDCHANNEL
@OnemarioOLDCHANNEL 7 жыл бұрын
"Listen to me, Sonic Team. If you ever make multiple player characters a possibility in a new mainstream Sonic game ever again, this is the best way to go about it [...]" **Looks at Sonic Mania** I've got news for you.
@fraughtmonster8
@fraughtmonster8 6 жыл бұрын
Onemario1234 they did that partly
@JoseAyalaVelez
@JoseAyalaVelez 6 жыл бұрын
**Looks at Sonic Mania Plus** How cute...
@Tiggster-qr8mw
@Tiggster-qr8mw 5 жыл бұрын
This video came out way before sonic mania
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 4 жыл бұрын
That's a 2D game, tho.
@DarkChaoto
@DarkChaoto 8 жыл бұрын
There are 2 kinds of classic fans. The first is the "all modern era/ 3D Sonic games suck" fans.The 2nd is were I put myself are fans who prefer the classics but still enjoy the newer Sonic games.
@theobserver4214
@theobserver4214 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Everyist (Likes all games except those that were part of the dark ages Console games, DS games Sonic rush and Rush adventure were good)
@wibblus
@wibblus 8 жыл бұрын
+DarkChaoto I'm the first one, I hate the 3D Sonic Games, but that's just my opinion. also this game is the best game ever made.
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
+Damian Forte also, if you hate the 3d sonics, play the advance games or the rush titles
@wibblus
@wibblus 8 жыл бұрын
+Elijah Toombs I like those games because they are still 2D side-scrolling games. I don't like the fully 3D Sonic games.
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
+Damian Forte I can kinda see why. I mean that's where sonic does best. but he can also work well in 3d. SEGA just needs to find that "spark" to 3d Sonic's fullest potential.
@ramgladore
@ramgladore 2 жыл бұрын
I love Sonic Mania. It does a great job recapturing the original spirit of the older games. But Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the GOAT of Sonic games.
@KirbyPhelpsPK
@KirbyPhelpsPK 8 жыл бұрын
23:44 Arin doesn't even like Sonic 3 and Knuckles. He thinks that's a bad game too.
@SeiJunichiro
@SeiJunichiro 8 жыл бұрын
Dan Era Arin was a mistake of god.
@SNICKERS.6018
@SNICKERS.6018 8 жыл бұрын
What were his reasons other than "It's Sonic so it must be bad"?
@RetroClash95
@RetroClash95 7 жыл бұрын
Arin is just trolling. He knows polarizing opinions = increased interest.
@CheetosForBreakfast
@CheetosForBreakfast 7 жыл бұрын
he doesn't like ocarina of time either so fuck em
@benjaminrearden5724
@benjaminrearden5724 7 жыл бұрын
well he hates good game but then likes crap so Fuck him.
@Lastbenevolencemusic
@Lastbenevolencemusic 8 жыл бұрын
Big sonic fan. Grew up during the Genesis era. Agree 100%. Best Sonic review ever. 10/10 - LB
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
better than fuckin overronic the hedgehog 2. if there is one thing sonic 2 did better than 3&k is the multiplayer in actual levels.
@74SonicMario
@74SonicMario 9 жыл бұрын
Holy moly. Everything from 23:30 and onward I couldn't agree more with. Even as a kid, the Classic Sonic games never stood out as these grand, perfect games everyone praised them as. Aside from Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic '06, and other games like that, I never thought Sonic took as much as a downfall of quality compared to the classics as everyone said he did, but I never knew why I thought that, because no one else really _explained_ why the classics were as good as they said. It was only until I recently beat Sonic 2 in its entirety that I was able to form my own opinions about it, and realize for myself what I think the Sonic series really is, because certainly no one else was going to help me in that. And the main opinion everyone has about Sonic is what casual players and non-Sonic fans come to see Sonic as too, and that's kind of a shame.
@DADA-yt1pt
@DADA-yt1pt 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, boy. It's gotten worse since Sonic Mania. People saying that it's the only good sonic game to come out in years, acting like games like Sonic advance 1,2, and 3, Sonic rush, Sonic rush adventure, Sonic colors, Sonic generations, and (debatably) the adventure games don't exist or are mediocre. It just sickens me.
@rbwjakfjenwbw1009
@rbwjakfjenwbw1009 6 жыл бұрын
I agree too. Don't get me wrong, I love the hell out of Mania and it's easily one of my favorite Sonic games of all time, but it's flawed too and isn't perfect. And don't even get me started on the cucks that expect and possibly even want Sonic Forces to fail (seriously I've encountered a dude like that), simply because Forces is a 3D game. While I don't think it will be as good as Mania, I'm still really hyped for Forces. These Classic fanboys really need to get over their nostalgia and see the Classics for what they are: Good games, amazing even, but still flawed.
@juliancastrejon452
@juliancastrejon452 6 жыл бұрын
74SonicMario i
@superplayerdx9543
@superplayerdx9543 6 жыл бұрын
To get a f****** s*** in Sonic 2 you just have to go fast fast fast and then go slow so slow and just try not going too much problem we action but it is a little bit Sonic 1 Sonic 1 and 2 and 3 kind of did this just wait a minute
@superplayerdx9543
@superplayerdx9543 6 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute I just need to Sonics or I just saw Sonic and Knuckles being super and that's so crazy I am about to be right now a supersonic
@Koops2245
@Koops2245 9 жыл бұрын
23:30 FINALLY, I'm relieved to find someone that finally said it. As a long-time GameGrumps and SomeCallMeJohnny fan, I've never encountered such a polarizing franchise as the Sonic series, but thanks to your brilliant and objective review series I've finally decided to play through all of the classic Sonic games. Cheers, you've earned a new subscriber.
@michaelkemel9711
@michaelkemel9711 9 жыл бұрын
AverageJoe5050 The classic games are just that. The 3D games . . . The only ones I could recommend are Adventure 1, Colors, and Generations, and I still think they are probably not as good as the classics (and Colors hardly counts as a 3D game)
@isaacplayer4268
@isaacplayer4268 9 жыл бұрын
***** Lost World is really just the Galaxy 3 we never got.
@isaacplayer4268
@isaacplayer4268 9 жыл бұрын
***** True True.
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 8 жыл бұрын
+AverageJoe5050 I'm curious, how can you tell if something is objectively better designed? Don't you also have to slightly factor in your own skills?
@Koops2245
@Koops2245 8 жыл бұрын
+AverageJoe5050 I ended up strongly disliking the games. It was an adventure at least-
@GamerGuyd7Aces
@GamerGuyd7Aces 8 жыл бұрын
Wow Exo.. this is by FAR my Favorite Classic Sonic Review from you! :) And it's not because we both love Sonic 3 & Knuckles.. I can go on any review video and hear them worship this game, or any other classic sonic game for that matter. This is my fav video from you because you Thoroughly state why the Classic Sonic games aren't perfect, and why Classicists (or how I like to call them classicfags or nostalgiafags, excuse my French) are super biased towards these games vs. 3d sonic games. Sonic Colors and Generations are one of my favorite Sonic games, but S3&K is still #1.. and that's not because I'm a classicist, it's because there's still some things that were done in S3&K that Sega has yet to fully implement again, like the other characters and how they play, without going to far like the Adventure games did and changing the gameplay styles. Also, I personally enjoyed 2D Sonic in the classic games than Classic Sonic in Generations. The Old 2d Sonic had a higher jump.. and that was one of the things that kinda annoyed me with Classic Sonic in Generations.. several platforming sections became more difficult than they should've because they gimped Classic Sonic's jump, idk why. I didn't know how important it was for Sonic to jump high until I played Sonic Generations, and it's why I actually prefer Modern Sonic's levels way more than Classic Sonic's (which is a good thing right? That means Sega finally got 3D Sonic down lol). Funnily enough, using the homing attack for Classic Sonic makes platforming a lot better and reaching higher places more easier. Also, there are some levels in Generations that I think are even better than the originals! Sky Sancutary in Gen. is better than S3&K, and more fully realized. Also the Metal Sonic boss is way better than the one in Sonic CD
@toongrowner1
@toongrowner1 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that Mecha Sonic is far better than Metal Sonic. Specially with the design. Mecha Sonic looks cool and menacing (sorry if I wrote this wrong, english isn't my first language) while even as a kid I found Metal Sonics design rather silly and kinda ugly. Also, MECHA SONIC CAN TURN FREAKIN SUPER! How is this not a point to proof hwo better he is?
@JacobParanoia
@JacobParanoia 6 жыл бұрын
toongrowner1 I thought silver and mecha sonic look cool, but I enjoy metal sonics design too
@somethingsomething9008
@somethingsomething9008 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody said the classic sonic trilogy was perfect
@animatorbroman3710
@animatorbroman3710 5 жыл бұрын
I'm as what Exo once described "a neo classicist. I like the classics but I see why people like Sonic Adventure 2 or Sonic Colors. I played the games on the 3DS Eshop and coming back to there reviews, Exo brought up many problems I found in the Sonic Games. Sonic 3&K, and Sonic 1 are my 2 favorite sonic games. I only played Sonic 1,2,3&K, and CD. I have'nt played any 3D games so where should I start.
@TheRogueMaverick
@TheRogueMaverick 4 жыл бұрын
Animator Bro Man - From what 3D games I’ve played, Sonic Unleashed Wii and Colors are good to play. SA 1 and 2 are decent enough to finish.
@fable23
@fable23 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you, personally, from the bottom of my heart, for that Bayonetta 2 style Death Egg Robot introduction. Just... thank you. Thank you so much.
@rat9625
@rat9625 8 жыл бұрын
You should review the Sonic Advance series!
@millabasset1710
@millabasset1710 8 жыл бұрын
I think I oly played the first Sonic Advanced.. Back on the original taco shaped gameboy advanced.
@johnsother2440
@johnsother2440 7 жыл бұрын
in a livestream he said he wouldnt bc he didnt like playing sonic games on handhelds.
@KBABZ
@KBABZ 7 жыл бұрын
That was an N-Gage!
@whorrathefemaleantromorphi4775
@whorrathefemaleantromorphi4775 6 жыл бұрын
+Chinople isn't that part of the dreamcast era?
@Optimistical
@Optimistical 6 жыл бұрын
Jared Ellis In his Remake or Rebreak episode of Super Mario 64, vs Super Mario 64 DS, he stated that he used to use emulation on some games he review because of how they “play the same.” Only to start realizing that he should play games on hardware it was designed for, so that he doesn’t talk out of his a double-s.
@Haedox
@Haedox 9 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, EPG. Is there some place you can get Sonic 3 now? Like somewhere on VC because I really want to play this now. About the nostalgic bias, I think it exists in every fanbase. Take Mario for example. There are people who claim 64 is the best out of the bunch just because it did something new. There's a lot of that bias.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
Haedox I'd argue that nostalgia bias is a LOT more concentrated in the Sonic fanbase than other fanbases. You don't hear Mario fans complaining about how god awful 3D World is just because it's not a 2D Platformer, for example. Sure, there's the NSMB haters, and also the SM64 asskissers, but they never go as far as to say that new Mario games are bad just because they're new (besides someone like Egoraptor, of course, who apparently spent his Mario 3 playthrough complaining about how bad modern Mario is. But his type is not plentiful, at least in my observations). Nostalgia plays a role in every fanbase, to be sure, but I'd make the claim that the Sonic fanbase is exceptionally nostalgic compared to the rest.Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles are still available on the Wii Virtual console. You have to pay for both games individually, but if you open Sonic & Knuckles and press the minus button, it'll allow you to lock-on with Sonic 3 for the full game. That's how I recorded the footage for this review, as a matter of fact. I don't know if Ninny Doo's closed down the Wii Shop yet or not, but I don't think they have.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised nobody noticed the wink to Bayonetta 2.
@Haedox
@Haedox 9 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer I did, but I didn't want to say it. It was very well done though!
@RyanDaly
@RyanDaly 9 жыл бұрын
Hey Haedox you can get Sonic 3 and Knuckles on Steam if you have it.
@Azurephoenix13x
@Azurephoenix13x 9 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer I diiiiiiiiiiid!
@GamerSpax
@GamerSpax 9 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome review, but you made a mistake. Tails does jump as high as Sonic, it's Knuckles who has a lower jump. I've played Sonic games almost religiously, especially Sonic 3&K which is my favorite. However, you are not alone on this Sonic Fanbase issue. Granted, I used to be one of these biased fans, but I've matured since then and do believe there are a lot of good Sonic games. I'm in the same boat with you and agree with a lot of your opinions even before I saw this review.
@divinityryder500
@divinityryder500 8 жыл бұрын
Classic Sonic is good. Modern Sonic is good. I grew up in the Classic Era and I agree that to say that there haven't been any good sonic games since & Knuckles is complete bull. I have enjoyed most of the sonic games I've played since then. And while some of them are indeed terrible (2006), a good bit of them are awesome in their own right (Colors and ESPECIALLY Generations)
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 3 жыл бұрын
When a comment starts off with “Sonic is good (albeit not always), Classic or Modern”, we know you’re a true Sonic fan. 😃
@SQGReviewShow
@SQGReviewShow 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who kind of liked Sonic 3D Blast. I mean, I know it's flawed, but I had some fun with it.
@Haedox
@Haedox 9 жыл бұрын
I had some fun with it, but it is not anything phenomonal
@sebash789
@sebash789 9 жыл бұрын
I like it to and I think I played that to much when I was younger playing sonic mega collection plus on ps2
@Densester
@Densester 9 жыл бұрын
i liked it 2 :D
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 9 жыл бұрын
The Side Quest Gamer I like it too. The Mega Collection port, anyway. Dat control stick.
@SQGReviewShow
@SQGReviewShow 9 жыл бұрын
***** That's the one I usually play.
@ciprianmogosanu7169
@ciprianmogosanu7169 9 жыл бұрын
They sure pushed everyting to the limits.It is incredible how much detail is only on angel iland level:the beguinig scene where you can see the beach in the background for just a second.the fire effects.the incredible paralax scrolling that changes with your hight.the intimidating introduction of robotnic,everyting is perfect,and with the greatest 16 track:hydrocity act 2
@theredblur7aka
@theredblur7aka 8 жыл бұрын
+Ciprian Mogosanu *Island.
@linoshcaalomar3951
@linoshcaalomar3951 6 жыл бұрын
lurne hou too sppel. but seriously, you're right.
@coachchris424
@coachchris424 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think Mario has a lot to do with the 3D Sonics not getting love. Sonic had it's original run with no true competition on Genesis, except Super Mario World. But Mario transitioned beautifully to 3D, over and over again. While Sonic Adventure was a good game, it was no Mario 64. Mario basically set the bar, and Sonic has just come up short time and time again. Not bashing Sonic, I grew up loving the 2D Sonics. Still do. Adventure was fun too. But for me, it's easy to see why most Classic Sonic fans don't like the 3D games. They were good, they weren't great.
@Outshinedsg
@Outshinedsg 9 жыл бұрын
Sonic 3 & K is still probably my favorite sonic game. One aspect I think you didn't touch on is historical context. Yes, there are a lot of elements of the classic series that haven't aged well when you scrutinize them with modern game standards. However, if you compare them to their contemporaries (as you started to get into with your discussion on the save functionality) you can see why fans who played these games when they were originally released were more willing to overlook the flaws that these games had. Sonic 1 wasn't a perfect game, but it presented us with a sense of speed we'd never seen in a platformer before. Sonic 2 may have been really difficult, but it still seemed like an improvement over the original game in many ways (particularly the spin dash). Sonic 3 was a huge game that once again dramatically improved over it's predecessor. The continual exceeding of expectations is part of the reason why fans who played the series at release remember it so fondly.
@superjesse645
@superjesse645 9 жыл бұрын
Sonic 3 & Knuckles was the first classic Sonic Game I ever truly finished, with all the characters. BEST CLASSIC SONIC GAME EVER! Also, I'm glad you based the classic Sonic bias. I subbed to you just because you did that. Stay awesome, man!
@Hugo-os3ud
@Hugo-os3ud 4 жыл бұрын
and it was the first classic game that i didn't finished ;-;, but it still my favorite
@Nick-lq2kb
@Nick-lq2kb 8 жыл бұрын
As a Sonic fan, there's nothing I hate more than Sonic fans. It's a very toxic and divisive community a lot of the time, but I feel it's for good reason, and reasons Sega should have sorted out. I'm going to admit my complete bias, I grew up with the Genesis stuff and loved it, but I agree with every frustration you've had with the games of old. I still remember how angry a lot of those bonus stages made me, and it wasn't until SK3 I felt they really nailed it...and to me, that's why I've had a problem with the franchise since then. They've perfected it once. Nobody really talks about what it was like being a fan and our expectations of what was to come right after that game. It wasn't the same market it is today, or even in Dreamcast days. Nobody talks about Saturn. Nobody talks about the wait and disappointment we had to get through before we finally got Adventure. Which was new and exciting, but when you compare 1 and 2 to SK3? Not even close. Then we got Heroes. Then Shadow. Then 06. They really made it hard to stay a fan at that point, and it became even harder for them to win us back after years of this nonsense, especially when you look at what Mario was doing with amazing 3D games alongside the still great 2D stuff they've always done. We're less forgiving on the modern stuff when comparing to classic because they should really have their shit together by now. Unleashed had really good ideas. Colors even more after that, and in my personal opinion, Generations even more....and then they redesigned everything and game us Lost World.There's a lot of good stuff in those games, but like you were saying in the 2 and CD videos, there is a LOT of frustrating nonsense in them as well, and they've had 20 years to sort that out. Considering how huge of an icon Sonic is in game culture, it's just a little insulting to the fanbase of old that they can't take care of this property. We've grown up with this series, we've seen how good it can be, and we just feel like it deserves better. Again though, I do love the Adventure games, modern stuff, hell even the weird trash on Saturn, but Sonic 3 and Knuckles will always be the pinnacle of this series. I just wish they'd strive for that quality, instead of jumping to a new engine every couple years.
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
:') beautiful. I know someday a 3d sonic could surpass this awesome game. s3&k set the bar very high of what a good 2d... NO A GOOD 2D SIDESCROLLER SHOULD BE.
@Rudymc-du7or
@Rudymc-du7or 6 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that when I played as knuckles when I was younger, I used to think I had to get the red spheres to match knuckles colour, and I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong when the stage started spinning as soon as I touched a sphere.
@banjoboi24
@banjoboi24 7 жыл бұрын
10:54 Well, you better get hyped, cause Sonic Mania will handle this the same way that Sonic 3 & Knuckles did !
@BlueflagAlpha
@BlueflagAlpha 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. Gamerface does it matter?
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 5 жыл бұрын
Yeees
@samuelkelly5615
@samuelkelly5615 9 жыл бұрын
You have the most in-depth reviews I've ever watched. Plz continue ur awesome work!!
@Yu1awAngerWolf82
@Yu1awAngerWolf82 9 жыл бұрын
One of the best retrospective reviews of the classic sonic series.
@thebaraking174
@thebaraking174 9 жыл бұрын
The Bayonetta intro for the Death Egg robot had me DYING. Really great series btw, I think you've changed the way I look at all video games, including Sonic.
@markvd1008
@markvd1008 9 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer There is something else to the bubble shield. It doesn't just bounce, but lets you breathe underwater forever without drowning! Just warn-ing you.
@refat17
@refat17 9 жыл бұрын
It's always good to look at games this way because then we can truly appreciate how great they are. It shows that a lot of retro games weren't just good for their time rather they are just good games as a whole that are timeless and can be ranked along side modern games. Furthermore, when we find the flaws in these great games we can make better games or new types of games that improve upon what was already done. This is important to me because I just like playing games (whether retro or modern, I treat them as the same). When a game is good or amazes me it has nothing to do with its age. I wouldn't want to look at retro and modern as different tiers when it comes to the quality of the game itself. The tiers (generations) should be left for the changes in the possibilities and potential of games, and the general history of gaming as a whole.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
+refat17 Well said, mister.
@gaz9434
@gaz9434 8 жыл бұрын
Poetry.
@clickbait1501
@clickbait1501 6 жыл бұрын
The final boss actually has rings, if you had some in act 2 of Death Egg Zone.
@SJC82
@SJC82 7 жыл бұрын
11:00 I heard sonic mania is having all the playable characters from this game working the same way they did here.
@jubbalub
@jubbalub 7 жыл бұрын
nobody is gonna pay 20 bucks for a mobile game mate
@gamerninteyeight9021
@gamerninteyeight9021 9 жыл бұрын
This was a superb review, better than any other review you have done. I also really enjoyed the ending, I'm also sick of ClassicGameRoom and Screwattack's egoraptorian bias and I'm glad that your able to challenge their unfairness to show the other side of the coin.
@GANONdork123
@GANONdork123 7 жыл бұрын
Kind of disappointed you didn't bring up the special stages that reward you with extra rings and powerups.
@DJNeoncat
@DJNeoncat 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody has probably ever paid attention to the color palletes in the special stages, but I'm gonna state, that in the standalone sonic 3, that flying battery was gonna be after carnival night, which you would find in that exact order in the soundtest. Special Stage 5 has some orange and dark purple(?) tiles, which is the somewhat same color scheme in flying battery.
@lukergamerz4455
@lukergamerz4455 8 жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued by the fact you didn't mention that Knuckles has a unique story taking place after Sonic's. Of course, most people miss that since they removed the opening cutscene from the game, so I can't blame you.
@wunnup3229
@wunnup3229 Жыл бұрын
23:30 Everything Exo said is 100% true. And this is coming from somebody who grew up with the classic games as a child in the 90's. I don't know where I fall in the Sonic-fan-spectrum here. I honestly can't call myself a Classicist, because some of my favorite games in the series are from all the other eras. I'll never understand the mentality of being unwilling to give something a fair chance. They'll play a modern Sonic game once, claim to have given it a fair chance, but when somebody says they dislike a classic Sonic game, these classicists will insist that the game be given multiple consecutive chances. It almost seems like an abusive relationship. "Classic Sonic only gives me Game Overs because it loves me." I'm not gonna pretend Sonic 3 & Knuckles isn't one of my top five favorite Sonic games. But I'm also not gonna pretend that it doesn't have any flaws. Often times, I'll entertain the notion of replaying it for the fiftieth time, but then stop to think to myself that I'd have to replay some of the worst parts of the game that I hate, like the collapsing ruins in Marble Garden Zone Act 2, the lower underwater sections of Hydrocity Zone Act 1, Getting lost in Carnival Night Zone Act 2 and timing out, trying to perfectly time my jumps to hit the boss of Mushroom Hill Zone Act 2 without getting hit, racing against the clock with the timed gates and ghosts in Sandopolis Zone Act 2, that stupid upside-down conveyor-elevator-platform in Death Egg Zone Act 2 towards the end. I'll think about those areas and decide that I just don't have it in me to replay the game. Sometimes, I'd rather play as Amy Rose or Big the Cat in Sonic Adventure 1, in all honesty. I'd rather play as Tails and Dr. Eggman in Sonic Adventure 2. A lot of the time, I'd rather pop in Sonic R and race around the same five tracks ten times. Most of the time, I'd rather return to Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Generations, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Forces. I know there's no accounting for taste, so I have no excuse for any of my personal preference, but if you pretend that classic Sonic games are flawless, then I submit that you are just a masochist who doesn't want your games to be even the slightest bit fair to you. Every time I try to make the exact same argument Exo has here, and explain point-for-point why Classic Sonic games aren't inherently better than Modern Sonic games, folks just interrupt me, talk over me, shout at me, call me stupid, what-have-you. It's impossible to have a civilized conversation with a Classic Sonic fan. It's like talking to a Republican. And it makes me ashamed to even BE a Sonic fan to begin with. I love Sonic. But I absolutely hate so much of the Sonic fan community that it makes me sick. I often refuse to let people know I like Sonic games entirely for fear of awakening some eldritch drama-llama. I thought I was all alone in my thinking, the one person on Earth who felt the way about Sonic that I do. But then I watched this video. And it's absolutely criminal that Exo doesn't have more viewership than this.
@Bardockssj2003
@Bardockssj2003 Жыл бұрын
Trust me, man, I'm on your side. I personally think that Sonic 3 and knuckles is my personal favorite of the classic series, but in all honesty, I think it's extremely hypocritical for the classicest to say that their games are perfect While our games suck And after watching this video My anger went away I was so sick and tired of watching some call me Johnny praise these games Now I love that guy don't get me wrong But sometimes it's kind of hard to sit through his videos at point Like his Reviset to the classic sonic games Was better than his old videos I can't stand to watch his old ones And while I will respect his opinion I don't agree with that And I will disagree with him that sonic the hedgehog 2 is a perfect game There are some good things about sonic 2 But that game is so flawed in every respect That it's kinda Is hard for me to go back to sometimes Some stages feel like they have a lot going on sometimes If the special stages are the absolute worse than the series And the final boss Is Cancer Well you have a good day man.
@wunnup3229
@wunnup3229 Жыл бұрын
@@Bardockssj2003 I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the same. Thank you, you have a good day too.
@Bardockssj2003
@Bardockssj2003 Жыл бұрын
@Wunnup Of course, man, I do agree with exoparadigmgamer 100%. Is that the vast majority of Sonic fans are a bunch of nostalgic prejudiced people who think that the early 3-D games and newer games suck except for mania. Now Mania is OK I really think that game should have had more newer level If you know what I mean And yes Exoparadigmgamer Is deserves more subs
@KBABZ
@KBABZ 7 жыл бұрын
This review, and this series overall, got me to Subscribe. This is such a good video.
@trilight3597
@trilight3597 9 жыл бұрын
This was a great and informative marathon. Also I like the Bayonetta style monster intro reference you through in.
@cedialive2759
@cedialive2759 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, wait, hold up. There's just one problem with how you turn Super in this game, and this was an issue since Sonic 2. In Sonic 2, when you have all 7 Chaos Emeralds and get 50 rings, you're FORCED to turn Super automatically the moment you jump! In OG Sonic 3 and Knuckles, they tried solving it by having you press jump twice, but then another issue occurs; you can't use your Insta-Shield! And if you have an Elemental Shield, you can't turn Super until you lose it! Sonic 3 Complete and Sonic Mania fixed this problem by giving the Super form its own button.
@leont6813
@leont6813 8 жыл бұрын
I loved your review! I like how you actually give an opportunity to Sonic games, because literally everyone says that any game post Sonic 3 & Knuckles is garbage except for Colors and Generations, and that is just not true.
@daronwarren3964
@daronwarren3964 4 жыл бұрын
You’re 💯 percent right throughout this entire video. I’d rather watch your reviews anyday. You don’t sugarcoat anything and you tend to view topics from different perspectives. Love it!
@razsmash7082
@razsmash7082 9 жыл бұрын
YAS had nothing to watch before school and Exo saved my day once again!
@keikoandgilly
@keikoandgilly 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a classicist, and I even liked Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 for all their faults (Dreamcast Lover forever). Hell Colours, Generations, and World hands down is what Sonic Classic is with the modern touch.
@SidGameReview
@SidGameReview 8 жыл бұрын
+keikoandgilly hey again, i consider myself a dreamcastian even though i grew up with the classics, i noticed you said you like SA1 and SA2 with all their faults my question is, am i allowed to say i like the classic games with all their faults too? or do you think the classic games are perfect?
@cherishyui
@cherishyui 8 жыл бұрын
I have to say your reviews are enjoyable to watch and you done a good job explaining these games than anyone else i have heard. So all im saying that you done a very nice job reviewing these games and i would like to see more of what you think of other sonic titles in the future.
@Minisaaga
@Minisaaga 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you like Sonic 3 and knux just as much as i do. I love this game and its my go to classic sonic game. Glad that you spoke out against the fanbase.I cant choose between sonic colors or 3 and knux since both are great games. I have enjoyed the little marathon that you did epg. Also the ending rant was something that was really meant to be said i think. Looking forward to the country marathon. Especially since i have not had a chance to play them.Also that bayonetta reference was pure fucking gold
@dngr_4209
@dngr_4209 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that sonic 3 and knuckles is finally getting rereleased in a collection with sonic 1,2 and CD and their the Christian whitehead ports
@ARGaming11294
@ARGaming11294 9 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with you dude. So glad to see someone speak out about this. Awesome job man!
@elizabethricken7569
@elizabethricken7569 9 жыл бұрын
To be honest you've made the best reviews so far.
@AlastorAltruistGaming
@AlastorAltruistGaming 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: This game (at least, the first half of the entire experience) was sponsored by McDonald’s, as part of a deal to promote the Sonic fast-food toy market before the game’s first half was set to be released. Another fun fact: Michael Jackson is labeled as one of the many composers of the soundtrack for this game, but many theorize that he was written out of the credits due to his child sexual assault allegations, thus sharing bad blood with SEGA.
@limmynade
@limmynade 9 жыл бұрын
This is just so good. You just won a another subscriber.
@BurgerKing42069
@BurgerKing42069 8 жыл бұрын
Wow. These were the best classic sonic game reviews on all of KZfaq. Bravo, bravo.
@aeonicbutterfly9662
@aeonicbutterfly9662 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with some common sense. Thank you. I know Sonic games get a lot of flack for not being as good as some, but personally, I find them enjoyable in their own ways. Well, except for the Wii ones, to be brutally honest. Sacrificing gameplay for speed wasn't a good time, like, at all, even though the actual concept was kind of cool. It just sucks when I'm trying to play Unleashed, and I've got my S/O over here poking holes in every little detail, like how it ripped off God of War for the Werehog sections, or how underacted Tails is, and it's like, you're playing Destiny and you're tearing holes in my game. Good grief. Thankfully, we had fun tearing apart each other's games last night, as a result of that... =)
@Brandontherascal
@Brandontherascal 9 жыл бұрын
Wow I love Sonic 3 so much, and nice Bayonetta reference
@albino3232
@albino3232 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome review. As an overall sonic and video game lover you have inspired me to buy sonic 3 from Amazon for the Genesis. I have the sonic and knuckles cartridge that I purchased years ago from funcoland (ya when that was a thing). Along with the Genesis and about 15 other games which included phantasy star 4, and other hidden gems for only $25. I'm going to have a blast plugging that thing back in and replaying some awesome games. Thanks for the review!
@OmegaRaptor2
@OmegaRaptor2 5 жыл бұрын
You sir, are the game reviewer that we want, need and deserve. Thank you for voicing your opinions and not letting nostalgia make you super biased.
@Czxvkq
@Czxvkq 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything you had to say here. I really don't understand why most people think Sonic 2 is the best classic Sonic game, to me S3&K is by FAR the clear choice.
@jjc4924
@jjc4924 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I agree.
@kirbymario2633
@kirbymario2633 7 жыл бұрын
11:11 or sonic advance, that too
@OmegaCoolsterDX
@OmegaCoolsterDX 8 жыл бұрын
finally someone who explains why Sonic 3 & Knuckles is better than Sonic 2, i seriously can't understand people who say Sonic 2 is better than 3&K, in many areas i find Sonic 2 to be unfinished as fuck
@Tornado1994
@Tornado1994 8 жыл бұрын
+Coolster PrzychlastGamer It is. SEGA had it designed and programmed in just six months. They were hell bent on making the 1992 Christmas season.
@whodaman777
@whodaman777 8 жыл бұрын
I think a big part of it is that Sonic 2 was alot of peoples first sonic game including me. So for the most part when people say that its nastalgia talking. For me not only was it my first Sonic game, it was my first video game ever and for a long time my only one. Later I got Sonic & Knuckles as well and it was a really good game. The problem was at the time I did not even know Sonic 3 existed. I wouldn't find that out till 15 years later. That might be why I preferred Sonic 2 back then alrhough I really liked them both. Now days I guess a new sonic game could be made with this old formula but idk if it would work as well. I have made this argument for Doom, Halo, Mario, Resident Evil and I think it applies to Sonic too. You can't go back in time. It was fun back then but now it just wouldn't be the same.
@TakeshiInazuma
@TakeshiInazuma 8 жыл бұрын
+whodaman777 I, myself, started with Sonic 1 and 2 at the same time, around 6 years old. As a kid I liked them all, Then played S3&K later on, and loved it.
@OmegaCoolsterDX
@OmegaCoolsterDX 8 жыл бұрын
***** i dunno about Doom, with GZDoom and Smooth Doom it's still a blast to play (what smooth doom does, is making the animations overall better and well, smoother) and considering how many mods this game has you always find something interesting :D
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 7 жыл бұрын
+Omega Coolster Sonic 2 wasn't unfinished but I agree Sonic 3 & Knuckles is better.
@rahulgabrielle
@rahulgabrielle 9 жыл бұрын
wow, this is the best sonic 3 video ever. i absolutely loved every minute of it. It just amazing to see that someone somewhere agrees and thinks like me when it comes to sonic 3! thanks again, for the wonderful video.
@anthonygonsalves7020
@anthonygonsalves7020 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you EPG. As a long time Sonic fan, this is the *realest* review I've seen, and I mostly relate.
@alexanderstilianov
@alexanderstilianov 7 жыл бұрын
You made a mistake about the characters. Sonic and Tail control absolutely the same bar the special ability. Knuckles is the one who is slightly slower and doesn't jump as high which is quite noticeable in some parts.
@Rossianno
@Rossianno 9 жыл бұрын
Bruh, this was a well thought out review. Great job on covering almost everything. Not bad for a dreamcast era person. # impressive
@nusdrapoel897
@nusdrapoel897 4 жыл бұрын
I have nostalgic memories watching this video, it's honestly one of my favorites ever on KZfaq
@Mr.Savage565
@Mr.Savage565 5 жыл бұрын
Exo you’re one of my favorite reviewers on KZfaq.
@Overbound
@Overbound 9 жыл бұрын
Tails jump is the same height as Sonic.... It would make much sense to lower the jump being as Tails could just fly as high as he'd need to jump anyway. Knuckles however has a lower jump.
@JoshKall
@JoshKall 9 жыл бұрын
I suppose there's always Sonic Classic Collection for the DS. I love how you tell it like it is, I agree with you 100%.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
***** That port has some screen crunch problems, but if you want all the games in one package it's a decent choice. I'd still recommend the T&S versions much more, though.
@sebash789
@sebash789 9 жыл бұрын
I did not notice screen crunch in mine it's really good especially if you have a 3ds xl
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
It's not HUGE screen crunch, but the emulation does cut out some of the screen. It's most obvious in the credits for Sonic 2, where some of the text is cut out on the sides. The games have visibility problems to begin with, so the extra screen crunch does not help things much, in my opinion.
@sebash789
@sebash789 9 жыл бұрын
You know one of the worst ports for sonic 1 sonic genesis on gba will you do ROR on that abomination for the hell of it I bet it's a definit re-break
@TakaMaru777
@TakaMaru777 9 жыл бұрын
great job, can't wait for your DKC videos
@rockyandyipper
@rockyandyipper 3 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to Clement and Johnny from Exo. Great video!
@crystalqueen9711
@crystalqueen9711 8 жыл бұрын
I think I know why some fans prefer the "poorly designed" Sonic 1, 2, and CD: they grew up with it and therefor know where everything is, whereas you havent
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 8 жыл бұрын
+Zero Ace I acknowledged that possibility in the Sonic 2 review.
@crystalqueen9711
@crystalqueen9711 8 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer Well, shows how much attention I pay on an average-ooh, shiny object!
@Hugo-os3ud
@Hugo-os3ud 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic 1,2,CD aren't poorly designed, they are all great, but S3&K is the best of the bunch, we know
@gruntingskunk2237
@gruntingskunk2237 4 жыл бұрын
HugoPLAYERツ [OFICIAL] I have no nostalgia fo the classic games but I strongly prefer 2, so far. I might change my mind some day.
@Songam1
@Songam1 9 жыл бұрын
Loved the bayonetta reference
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
Dean Pfeiffer Thank you. ;)
@shuasemaahes
@shuasemaahes 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are one of the best reviewers I've ever seen.
@casualplay8555
@casualplay8555 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, love your reviews. Happily subscribed!!
@GamerMinilla
@GamerMinilla 9 жыл бұрын
Well, I kinda have a sorta suggestion for a ROR if a Stealth/Taxman Android/iOS remake doesn't come to fruition (Tho with Sega's recent priority shift to Mobile gaming, I actually think it's now far more of a possibility). You could always compare it to a ROM hack Stealth himself helped work on called "Sonic 3 Complete". It takes the game we all know and love, and adds SO many options! Want the game to have it's original intended Sonic 3 styled layout and music? You got it! Want great genesis remixes of the Sonic & Knuckles Collection for the PC version of the game instead of the original level tunes? It's there! Want the "Easy mode" introduced in the Sonic Jams collection? You go right ahead, I won't judge you. Want the original/prototype level placement and color scheme for Flying Battery Zone? It's there, and trust me it's quite interesting! Want the Sonic/Tails combo controls of the iOS/Android remake versions of Sonic 1/2? It's implemented! Want Sonic to control like he did in the Taxman version of Sonic CD, Super Peelout and all? I know I do, and I'm so glad it's there! I can go on and on with the little tweaks and great aesthetic/gameplay implementation Sonic 3 Complete adds to the game, but then the comment would go on for far too long. All I know is that it's THE definitive version of Sonic 3K to me, and I'm actually currently tracking down one of those specialty/custom SD card slotted Genesis cartridges so that I can play the game on my actual Genesis, it's THAT good. Oh, and one last thing to note, you can even play Sonic 3 Complete with the Sonic 1/2 Title Screen/Invincibility/Level Clear/Extra Life/Super Sonic jingles if you so choose! I LOOOOVE that option, myself.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
***** Neat. I should check that out sometime.
@GamerMinilla
@GamerMinilla 9 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that was a rather fast response, lol. Yeah, it's such a great hack. I'm figuring if Stealth has any sort of say in the potential Android/iOS remake of Sonic 3 (Which everyone knows he does, lol), he'll port over many of the options/improvements he did in Sonic 3 Complete. I probably don't have to say it, but you can find it on the Sonic Retro hacking page, lol.
@Tornado1994
@Tornado1994 8 жыл бұрын
+Drew Seelig It will come to mobile eventually.
@BradleyX2000
@BradleyX2000 7 жыл бұрын
The hack was made by Tiddles, not stealth
@BlueflagAlpha
@BlueflagAlpha 6 жыл бұрын
Tornado1994 still didnt happen
@G0ATFAC3
@G0ATFAC3 9 жыл бұрын
These are the EXACT reviews of these games I've always wanted to see and I'm glad I finally get to see the flaws in these games actually talked about rather than just excused. I have such a hard time talking to people about my feelings on classic Sonic games and finally someone has put to words the things I've been trying to say for years. THANK YOU.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
G0ATFAC3 Glad to be of surr-vice.
@VolcanoTheBat
@VolcanoTheBat 9 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer i found a confirmed app logo postimg.org/image/rrqeaiyu5/
@blazingsonic
@blazingsonic 9 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU DUDE!! You summed up why I still love the Sonic series, and I enjoyed the Werehog which I call Dark Sonic, and THANK YOU for being a fellow gamer who doesn't worship Egoraptor.
@jerm70
@jerm70 8 жыл бұрын
+blazingsonic I argue that I hate the Werehog stage because its a good concept that needed its own game rather then shoehorned into Sonic. I understand why people like it but its not a good Sonic concept to have same with fishing ala Big The Cat.
@blazingsonic
@blazingsonic 8 жыл бұрын
+xxjermxx70 Good point but I do like seeing Sonic go God of War on Eggman's bots but even I agree Knuckles would have been a better choice as a second play mode.
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
or shadow being the werehog. Shadow: "whatever"
@OpenKeith
@OpenKeith 4 жыл бұрын
*buys five S&K carts to play the secret, never before heard of game called "Sonic 3 & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles"*
@ethanvania3630
@ethanvania3630 4 жыл бұрын
21:01-21:09 Ha Ha! Get Wrecked Death Egg Robot!
@lovelylow69
@lovelylow69 6 жыл бұрын
“And especially Metalic Madness Zone. Fuck that zone” Metalic Madness Zone returns in mania
@SP3Nayias
@SP3Nayias 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your high quality review of Mania. I know you'll really give it the review it deserves like all these three reviews. :)
@ArthaNara
@ArthaNara Жыл бұрын
All we need is a ROR of the Genesis version against the version in Sonic Origins or Angel Island Revisited and we would be in a perfect world
@Infindox
@Infindox 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these reviews. Honest, and that's something you don't normally get these days. What Sonic game (including all eras) do you think has the WORST special stage? Sonic Advance 2 was the worst to me; just getting to one required a guide, and the actual stage itself was meh. Though Sonic Lost World 3DS.forces you to look like an idiot irl xp
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 9 жыл бұрын
Torrie Starfrost Of all the games I've played, which does not include the Advance trilogy or Lost World 3DS, Sonic Heroes is probably the worst special stages wise. Sonic 2 is a close second.
@sebash789
@sebash789 9 жыл бұрын
When i played sonic advance 1-3 I had no Chios but to use the exact steps the great clement used advance 2/3 was hell
@Ny-pi7qf
@Ny-pi7qf 9 жыл бұрын
ExoParadigmGamer thanks now I know that im not the only one who thinks 2 is the worst out of the 3
@TheIDRIS2000
@TheIDRIS2000 4 жыл бұрын
The worst of the worst? Sonic 2 (barring the 2013 remake), Advance 1 and 3 are the worst of the worst for me. It's hard to see the obstacles, and you can miss or collide with stuff even if you think everything's fine.
@rotundmonibuv5103
@rotundmonibuv5103 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic Heroes special stages instantly become 20x better if you use the power character instead of the speed character.
@ub-06austin40
@ub-06austin40 7 жыл бұрын
I have fond memories of all the Classic Sonic Games (thanks to iOS and Sonic Mega Collection Plus). Here's how I order them; 1) Sonic 3 & Knuckles 2) Sonic 2 iOS 3) Sonic 1 iOS 4) Sonic CD iOS (I don't have as many good memories of Sonic CD as the others)
@JimRaynorRaider
@JimRaynorRaider 8 жыл бұрын
*clapping* dude! i'm going to follow you now after seeing these. everything you said in sonic 1 to S3&K is 100% true. the classic games are not perfect like reviewers says or old fans. i'm 28 years old and i'm so happy to find a real damn good review for the classic games(sonic 2 being my fav). keep it up!
@theredblur7aka
@theredblur7aka 8 жыл бұрын
The Death Egg Robot was much better than the Giganta Eggbot 2000. ( In my opinion)
@LeftOverCouchCrumbs
@LeftOverCouchCrumbs 2 жыл бұрын
Well when sonic origins releases we might get a S3&K remake or rebreak episode
@deez_nuts246
@deez_nuts246 Жыл бұрын
it did
@TheRyanSucksAtGames
@TheRyanSucksAtGames 9 жыл бұрын
25:31 Nah man, you're not the only one, I grew up playing the classic Sonic games and even at a young age I knew they weren't perfect. And it's such a pain in the rear to defend the Dream Cast/Modern Sonic games from people who say "naw man sanic tree was the last gud gaem", more so with the Dream Cast games in my experience. Though I completely understand why many people consider Sonic 3K to the best of the Classic series, I still prefer the original. I think the length was just right, I enjoyed most of the levels (only exception being Labyrinth Zone), and Sonic's weight, control and speed really did it for me. But still, I really like Sonic 3K; it's my second favorite of the classic series. On a side note, I could never get into DKC2 or 3 for some reason, so your next marathon will defiantly be interesting to watch. Can't wait to see it!
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 8 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about Sonic 2?
@thephantomist7199
@thephantomist7199 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic Tree is my favorite game
@Rman1228
@Rman1228 9 жыл бұрын
I like how you seem like the only one who didn't get stuck on on that spinning platform in that circus level. It took me 1 year to figure that out!
@vernondivinepurpose8041
@vernondivinepurpose8041 8 жыл бұрын
Watch all three of your videos of sonic... great review and this comes from someone who grew up playing the originals 1-4 except (sonic cd and the remakes)I would love to try the remakes. I agree with a lot of your opinions on the game. Great Job!!!
@swedenplatformge
@swedenplatformge 8 жыл бұрын
I actually kind of enjoyed labyrinth zone in Sonic 1. Sure it was not very interesting. But It was not the worst stage I have played in a Sonic game not even one of the worst. Honestly.
@ExoParadigmGamer
@ExoParadigmGamer 8 жыл бұрын
+Swedenplatformge I agree. I'd rather play that than play Metallic Madness Zone, which is basically a giant maze. Still, Labyrinth Zone is probably the worst level in Sonic 1.
@diegoruiz2186
@diegoruiz2186 6 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Marble Zone is the worst level in Sonic 1. The nauseating, slow leveI design was way too frustrating for 8 year old me. I actually had fun in Labrynth Zone, believe it or not. Like in Act 2 where you have to jump through a waterfall and stuff like that. The boss's difficulty spike was totally unnecessary however. Scrap Brain was my favorite.
@GamePlayerZ1912
@GamePlayerZ1912 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegoruiz2186 Marble Zone is more meant to teach plataforming to newer players and a place to stack up lifes, it is not necessarily meant to the be the fast one. Green Hill focused on speed, Marble focused on plataforming.
@Treyworld
@Treyworld 8 жыл бұрын
Nice Bayonetta reference by the way.
@erflexto2953
@erflexto2953 7 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to not hear anything about the barrel In carnival night zone. When I was younger I didn't know how to get past it until I randomly got bored and pressed up and down with the motion of the barrel
@shadewrecker9683
@shadewrecker9683 6 жыл бұрын
That Bayonetta reference towards the end was fucking amazing.
@rtechms
@rtechms 8 жыл бұрын
1.Sonic 3 and Nuckles 2.Sonic CD 3.Sonic 1 4.Sonic 2
@legendofsonic3979
@legendofsonic3979 8 жыл бұрын
What the f@#& is a nuckles? Do you mean knuckles?
@rtechms
@rtechms 8 жыл бұрын
Yes
@elijahtoombs814
@elijahtoombs814 8 жыл бұрын
like that list. that's my list too.
@wariocapproductions326
@wariocapproductions326 7 жыл бұрын
Judging by games themselves 1. Sonic 3 and Knuckles 2. Sonic 1 3. Sonic CD 4. Sonic 2 Personal Favorite 1. Sonic 3 and Knuckles and Sonic 2(Tie 3. Sonic CD 60. Sonic 1
@williamwhite2568
@williamwhite2568 6 жыл бұрын
KungFuCol Agreed
@TheTurboh22civic
@TheTurboh22civic 8 жыл бұрын
Hyped for Mania (:
@HistoryThigh9000
@HistoryThigh9000 8 жыл бұрын
You make a lot of good points. I grew up much closer to the classic era. Nostalgia for its own right does have value. It's great to go down memory lane, remember the sounds and images of waking up early on a Saturday morning to play video games or staying up late for a sleepover. But we also have to be honest as to how these games hold up today and good memories don't equal perfect games
@Shade2800
@Shade2800 9 жыл бұрын
Well said. When I started getting into the series in 2013, I got the "Sonic Classic Collection" for the DS, the second Sonic game I bought, and while I liked all the games, with "Sonic 3 and Knuckles" being my favorite of the bunch, they are FAR from perfect. I could save in all the games with the version I had, but if I had played the Genesis versions, I don't know how long I would last.
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 7 жыл бұрын
I kinda think Sonic 3D Blast gets a bad wrap. Sure the Genesis version is hard to control, but it's easier to control on the Mega Collection version.
@gabrielcousins2605
@gabrielcousins2605 6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Sonic Rush gets a bad wrap too. Mainly bc of the boss fights.
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 6 ай бұрын
@@gabrielcousins2605 the boss fights were terrible but the rest of the game was pretty all right
@Azel98
@Azel98 9 жыл бұрын
I love this game !!
@leonidaschryssinas1723
@leonidaschryssinas1723 6 жыл бұрын
sky sanctuary sound track should also have been one of your favourites too!
@luisoncpp
@luisoncpp 9 жыл бұрын
Congrats for finishing your marathon :), very informative. I felt frustrated because I liked Sonic Generations but disliked Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure and I wasn't able to find anyone that can recommend me other sonic games because everyone kept telling me that the classic Sonic games are perfect. Now, I'm going to try Sonic 3 and Knuckles :). Have you ever played Jazz Jackrabbit or Planet Freedom, that games are heavily inspired in the Sonic series, but I found them better in every aspect.
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