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EPIC new Terran mech* strategy! StarCraft 2 (herO vs TY)

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WinterStarcraft

WinterStarcraft

Жыл бұрын

SC2 Global StarCraft 2 League 2023 - TY returns to GSL in dramatic style with MASS SIEGE TANKS against herO's reckless tactics in this epic Terran vs Protoss Series!
*TY loves playing mech...but only after a healthy breakfast of losing bio to splash damage
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@MikeD-zq2xy
@MikeD-zq2xy Жыл бұрын
"TY is like an onion. If you try to unpeel his defenses, you're just gonna end up crying" 😂😂😂😂
@themusicgaragetmg2330
@themusicgaragetmg2330 Жыл бұрын
That onion joke definitely deserves more likes
@ConnorOstus
@ConnorOstus Жыл бұрын
Winter got bars
@noclafcz
@noclafcz Жыл бұрын
So many layers in that joke that I wanted to cry!
@_Wai_Wai_
@_Wai_Wai_ Жыл бұрын
​@@noclafczoh ya onions
@juny9445
@juny9445 Жыл бұрын
No
@gilles22
@gilles22 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time you put into such good casting ! ♥ you're the best
@Scynn
@Scynn Жыл бұрын
the start of game two is why I love winter as a caster. Great games as always. Glad to see TY again!
@wilshireanasurimbor3068
@wilshireanasurimbor3068 Жыл бұрын
I do love Dark's disregard for more players. He definitely seems like he has better things to do than play a full macro game against everyone but the top 1 or 2 players of any race. So he goes straight to some ladder cheese, and he closes games out with quick low effort play.
@fable4813
@fable4813 Жыл бұрын
"I was a child once... citation needed" lmao, love these casts
@Alloran
@Alloran Жыл бұрын
Man Winter is in full tilt today. Nice work man, keep up the great casting and the even greater starcraft games.
@Daniel-rd6st
@Daniel-rd6st Жыл бұрын
Hero really is the anti showtime. His defense usually lets much to desire and he cant keep zerglings out of his base for the life of him, but he does have great offensive capabilities. I just really wish he would put in the work and clean up his early game, that would help him so much.
@michaelswain868
@michaelswain868 11 ай бұрын
I love how Her0 just fully understood he could get a few zealots in behind the wall, take out the missile turrets and just completely flip the game on its head with one warp prism. Her0 better than any other top-tier pro knows what its like to lose a game from leaving your wall open. I liked TY's strat if maybe he somehow got enough money to build the iron bank and kept the wall up maybe that tank heavy comp would work.
@Cyhawkx
@Cyhawkx Жыл бұрын
@6:10 Space SCVs normally operate between 0 and 1 atmospheres of pressure. Water has atmospheric pressure much higher than 1. Very realistic.
@chemicallust77
@chemicallust77 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to sacrifice units like zealots and stalkers in favor of producing other higher level units...they're Kamikaze units, so whatever damage they cause is just a bonus to their sacrifice
@hexaquras9374
@hexaquras9374 Жыл бұрын
Even if TY doesn't make it I'd still watch since he's one of the only Terrans that goes 2 or more factories against Protoss
@peter_vgc121
@peter_vgc121 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do for sc2. Love your content, what do we have to do to get some BLHeroes back?!
@WinterStarcraft
@WinterStarcraft Жыл бұрын
soon™
@Cephalopopo
@Cephalopopo Жыл бұрын
I guess we have to play some SC2 again so there is actual bronze games 😂
@EyesonEthics
@EyesonEthics Жыл бұрын
Winter your casting skills are hilarious I would love to see you cast any game
@emilydegroot6436
@emilydegroot6436 Жыл бұрын
I was meaning to pull up a different video, but this thumbnail just grabbed me. Excited to watch!
@WolfGangDealers
@WolfGangDealers Жыл бұрын
Terran Mech vs Protoss? I am excited to look forward to what's in this one.
@Matt-ln7lb
@Matt-ln7lb Жыл бұрын
There was an actual mech game in TY vs Classic that went to late game mass BC during the group stage. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebB-ZaiYqLKaZ30.html
@WolfGangDealers
@WolfGangDealers Жыл бұрын
@@Matt-ln7lb thanks for letting me know! I shall check this out
@kevinfuentes8199
@kevinfuentes8199 Жыл бұрын
Hey Winter, here's a suggestion, can you cast old school sc2 games like way back then, with players like Huk, Stephano, MVP, Life and etc. Just like the Bronze League Heroes, you can call that segment 'Old School Classics" that would be awesome with you casting it.
@Fam0usFarm3r
@Fam0usFarm3r Жыл бұрын
Really a battle of two greats. Her0 is always my hero, him and max showing what toss can do!
@paralykeet-
@paralykeet- Жыл бұрын
Winter calling Her0 the Lord of Chaos while casting a game where Dark is RIGHT THERE LUL.
@StormGuard92
@StormGuard92 Жыл бұрын
Winter was a bit more unbridled in this video - these are my favorite types of casts. Thank you,Winter ^^
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster Жыл бұрын
i feel like a few blue flame hellions/hellbats would greatly help with base defences
@ecotechpestservices
@ecotechpestservices Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s the first time I noticed the music in the back but it made it this video so dramatic 😂
@un3kn3own0
@un3kn3own0 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the good casting!
@chrishaywood2458
@chrishaywood2458 Жыл бұрын
"How many SCVs does it take to kill an Archon!?" Lol
@frovis7426
@frovis7426 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the cast ❤
@yugonostalgia8961
@yugonostalgia8961 Жыл бұрын
Loved that final game. So satisfying~
@SilentBob1871
@SilentBob1871 Жыл бұрын
As Sun Tzu said, "Back off and expand bro."
@XionDarkblood13
@XionDarkblood13 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if we could bring back the valkyrie attack from brood war for the liberators? I love/miss the rapid missiles. Just from a spectacle and love of over the top attack animations. Maybe take away the thor missile AA and give that job to the liberators? I too would like to see more siege tanks and vikings. Also, as a terran myself, I think ghosts are too strong because they have the answer to all matchups, from a design perspective. The snipe answers all (not efficiently against small mass produced but the autoattack kind of does) zerg stuff and some of the more dangerous protoss amd the EMP works well against the spellcasters as well. EMP is way too good against Protoss, IMO, because it takes out energy and shields, things lots of Protoss units need, and like I said before snipe takes care of some dangerous units as well. Nuke is good against what Terran is famous for, siege and defense. While this may not be what actually happens in most games it is a good counter to it, emp and snipe are less useful but have places. Its weirdly the only matchup that the ghost isn't the be all answer. This isn't a balance complaint because I don't actually play SC2 but I would like to watch games of TvP and TvZ where ghosts aren't the MVP unit. The ability to cloak on top of it is just kind of the insult icing on the injury cake. I think splitting up some of these duties to the raven would be ideal because ravens are good but not used as much because ghosts are so much better in these matchups. I like the ghosts having a snipe ability because it fits so well. I think switching EMP to something else would be ideal. Make them assasin units and give them a mine ability like a single target mine that prioritizes energy bar units or something so they have a usefull backline ability and give the raven the AOE stuff. IDK switch the EMP and interference matrix so the ghosts are single target and ravens are aoe. I just don't like the EMP against protoss because it's seems really lame to see the protoss making a push and then a couple EMPs force the retreat. I think if antiarmor missile from ravens gave a percent based damage increase to shields only and didn't have the antiarmor effect on shields it would be more interesting than EMP and it still keeps its regular effect once shields are gone. That way its an answer to protoss shields but for any unit comp but still favors rapid firing units for the hp part of the protoss. Doesn't change the other matchups either. I guess the loss of the ability to drain energy is annoying but it does seem secondary to the main effect. The place it loses is the answer to zerg spellcasters but snipe also does that. I think if EMP were gone it would open up the ability for snipe to be buffed/changed. Maybe it has a small target AOE, just for targeting not AOE damage, and it prioritizes the energy units and if there aren't any it targets the highest hp unit. It makes it better against the bio based spellcasters and keeps the utility of taking out high value nonspellcaster targets but doesn't require as much precision as I think that's why EMP is used against zerg spellcasters over just sniping them. I think SC2s biggest misstep was when LotV was so focused on those big micro spectacle moments. It was trying to compete with MOBAs constant action for spectators and MLG purposes, but I think it went overboard when combined with the starting worker count increase and lowered resource amounts on bases. I think that change was all that was really needed to make the game more exciting to watch because it sped up the start of the game and made it less likely for people to die from early eco damage so being more aggresive was much more viable. Combined with the need to expand more and quicker I think even HotS would have been much more action packed and achieve the more exciting broadcast games they wanted. Though I do not miss the era of PvZ swarm hosts vs carrier stalemates.
@general_armstrong
@general_armstrong Жыл бұрын
Average noob player thinking their experience with the game has any bearing on game balance. listen my friend the game has been rebalanced probably over 10000 times. Win rates across all races at all levels of play are literally even. You sit here whining that ghosts are good ( assuming perfect positioning perfect micro and that you aren’t looking away at the wrong moment since ghosts are literally made of glass) but the truth is without them Terran would have literally no answer to outdoing Pisstoss splash damage and high HP. Zerg can literally pull tanks out of positioning with their casters. Without counter casters terran has no chance. snipe had already been nerfed into the ground being interrupt-able. They already took our big EMP radius away making it impossible to actually hit any significant portion of the enemy army. Taking EMP away would give terran no answer to enemy casters (who are chock full of game ending spells) and make fighting high hp high shield pisstoss units go from difficult to impossible even with perfect micro
@spencerbeard3904
@spencerbeard3904 Жыл бұрын
You should pretend that Jimmy I'd in the rest room and you have to pause the replay to bang on the door for the "like #"
@GameFuMaster
@GameFuMaster Жыл бұрын
41:21 Widow mine is probably a top 3 Zerg unit for me
@charlesimsande2822
@charlesimsande2822 Жыл бұрын
The best caster out there hands down.Winter out here in the summer.
@Kosss2001
@Kosss2001 Жыл бұрын
Hard to see your player lose but great commentary as always!
@RohitArvindMishra
@RohitArvindMishra Жыл бұрын
That f*cking prism... one should have a couple of Wraiths just to chase down these Overlords and prisms... you kill a fair few of those for Zergs and Protoss, and you can basically negate a massive strategy for them (potential Nydus and Prism warps into the Terran base)...
@andrewjones198
@andrewjones198 Жыл бұрын
Yep theboinion joke was great 👍
@astrofun4221
@astrofun4221 Жыл бұрын
was that stalker stuck between minerals ? at minute 5.45 gametimer(7)
@rhildor1
@rhildor1 Жыл бұрын
GG, sick games
@geuros
@geuros Жыл бұрын
2:00 like how does the adept see it?
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
For the algorithm, love TY!
@proactivex
@proactivex Жыл бұрын
That dog riff had me dying. Where does this come from !
@samcrespo2314
@samcrespo2314 Жыл бұрын
Polarity Charge LET’S GO
@tom4ivo
@tom4ivo Жыл бұрын
You are unhappy with widow mines; would it change if they couldn't target flying units?
@ntm4
@ntm4 Жыл бұрын
So according to liquipedia, a mule repairs at the same rate as an SCV.
@freshsmilely
@freshsmilely Жыл бұрын
that was a wild series.
@orangepearlf40
@orangepearlf40 Жыл бұрын
TY is really good. Reminds of Flash SC1 Play style.
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe Жыл бұрын
Today we learned that disruptors counter tanks. And that turrets can ruin the day of even the best players.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
Most of the time Tanks counter Disruptors. Only when the nova doesn't need to be microed and can move in a straight line can it reach full range.
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe Жыл бұрын
@@hivetech4903 Or there's other units in the battle to draw fire from the tanks. They don't have to be sniped to be effective. We saw that here.
@ChaosTyrant
@ChaosTyrant Жыл бұрын
love your energy have a good one
@Eisenbrei
@Eisenbrei Жыл бұрын
7:30 Holy shit that was a sloppy attack! Did Has take the controller from her0?!
@getyournekoshere9824
@getyournekoshere9824 Жыл бұрын
Thank u
@thokar81
@thokar81 Жыл бұрын
Actually you cant use spaceships/scvs in water, because the preasure difference inner and outer is only 1 bar to 0 bar. But 30 meter under water it is 1 bar to 3 var difference.😅
@jonsolo32
@jonsolo32 Жыл бұрын
Dark is ferocious and is underrated.
@Scisca1a2a
@Scisca1a2a Жыл бұрын
MaXPax is clearly the Great Dane, not a Golden Retriever, and I will die on thiis hill!
@watervapor42
@watervapor42 Жыл бұрын
go go go
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
Don't worry Winter, you aren't crazy, TY did in fact cancel Building Armor
@geuros
@geuros Жыл бұрын
So, TY gets himself far ahead, up in workers, up in supply by about 50 at one point, ahead in upgrades but Protoss can still win?
@widowmines231
@widowmines231 Жыл бұрын
wow, protoss is really strong in this patch.
@kaiser2261
@kaiser2261 Жыл бұрын
The zergs will gettem nerfed again next patch
@MrCreed145
@MrCreed145 Жыл бұрын
Does Winter have a Rumble?
@cathulionetharn5139
@cathulionetharn5139 Жыл бұрын
Thank You om nom nom
@TravisFawver
@TravisFawver Жыл бұрын
Was this a bronze league heroes and I didn't see the opening?!
@CountJamesMcGuigan
@CountJamesMcGuigan Жыл бұрын
@WinterStarcraft, rather than pretend to quote from the Sun Tzu, you should seriously read The Art of War. You can have Littlefinger read you the whole thing in an hour on Audable. Its an entire book of quotes on how to outthink your opponent from Grandmaster Sun Tzu. “If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@wilshireanasurimbor3068
@wilshireanasurimbor3068 Жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu's art of war is a preschool text for stupid rich general who got promotions based on corruption, nepotism and cronyism. Anyone with half a brain should not bother reading Art of War, its trash. Its filled with such gems as "feed your troops, because they need food to fight", and "dont fight battles you clearly cannot win", and "pay attention to what your opponent is doing"... Literal garbage. If in the 21st century anyone is surprised by any information in that book, they should be ashamed.
@josemontes478
@josemontes478 Жыл бұрын
Stalker range buff idea: give +2 attack on the next attack after blinking
@smarty-br8og
@smarty-br8og Жыл бұрын
Yes and why not +20 bonus damage and 5 seconds immortality...
@josemontes478
@josemontes478 Жыл бұрын
@@smarty-br8og I understand it is imposible to talk about this without someone telling you you are wrong. So I will elaborate: Protoss is weak right now, I know you will disagree but I don´t care, and neither do the statistics. Winter metioned buffing stalker range as a possible buff. I tried to add on that. I belive change i proposed would be healthier for the game, reward good micro and fit into the playstyle stalkers are meant to be played. you could have objected in so many ways, many of them valid. But you choose a starwman and a "reductio ad absurdum". dismissing my coment as absurd and trying to discredit it.
@smarty-br8og
@smarty-br8og Жыл бұрын
@@josemontes478 What do you mean protoss is weak?! TY had hige advantage in that first early and mid game and then still lost to stalkers, zealots and disruptors... Rewarding good micro?! Like jumping into the main and dodging mine hits isn't broken enough?
@josemontes478
@josemontes478 Жыл бұрын
@@smarty-br8og Sure let's base all the balance discussion on how this particular game played out. As I said before: I know you will disagree but I don´t care. In Spain we have a saying. "No one is blinder than me man who refuses to see". lastly, even though I know it's pointles... I will try to refute your arguments. Why is it fair for terran to be able to fly their entire army into the main on medevacs? and then fly out and back again in the time it takes blank to recharge? why is it fair for battle-cruiser to just fucking jump in and out of combat? why do widow mines have cloak? why does EMP work on buildings? why does terran get to use the exact same build for 10 years and not get punished? why can two marauders kill a colussus? why can terran repair their units and buildings? why do reapers heal? mules? scans? nukes? why don´t protoss get to do this things? The answer to all of this questions is simple: they are the tools terrans have to win the game. all of them make the game intersting and stop it from being an "A move" numbers game. Asymmetrical balance is the key. And if all of these things are OK. Why can´t protoss jump into the main? or teleport zealots into the main? or recall? or cannon rush?, or use storm?, or avoid widow mine hits? or any other thing that protoss do that annoy you. you make it sound like widow mines MUST kill all of the units otherwise it wouldn't be fair. Protoss have their tools and terrans have their tools. And right now protoos´s (funny word) are not as good.
@smarty-br8og
@smarty-br8og Жыл бұрын
@@josemontes478 Dude, this discussion is pointless. You are complaining about things that have been around for years. Every now and then someone is not going to like something in the game and the balance changes can go on forever...
@caliconfessions1075
@caliconfessions1075 Жыл бұрын
Tis odd there is flying units but no water units
@Lilwo0olf_69
@Lilwo0olf_69 Жыл бұрын
Man, you need more Bronze league heroes episode
@GotEmAll1337
@GotEmAll1337 Жыл бұрын
God I really do love watching Terran lose.
@zusemishra9133
@zusemishra9133 Жыл бұрын
Winter i love you ❤. Greetings from Germany.
@justinjones3326
@justinjones3326 Жыл бұрын
24:00 you play zerg.... -terren(remove widow mine cloak and armor and keep bainling speed and armor) this is effectively what you said
@cavemantero
@cavemantero Жыл бұрын
I love the design of Liberators...for protoss. Should've been a protoss unit instead of Tempest. Maybe they could've brought back scouts and give them the 'liberator' siege mode upgrade. Get rid of the stupid phoenixes and give Toss liberators. Or, corsairs. Give Terran better tank armor. Its sad to see them get ripped apart by literally everything.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself - most players regard Phoenix as one of if not the best designed unit in the game, with a high micro ceiling & multi-purpose special ability.
@andrewjones198
@andrewjones198 Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think this game isn't realistic, lol best statement I've heard in awhile 😅
@rocketrockinit
@rocketrockinit Жыл бұрын
This is absurd I will study and copy.
@chemicallust77
@chemicallust77 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see immortals get one of two upgrades...either blink, or ability to target air units (both would be great, but probably OP)
@gzimparduzi2027
@gzimparduzi2027 Жыл бұрын
EPIC new Terran mech? EPIC fail yes :P.
@Max-dv1kq
@Max-dv1kq Жыл бұрын
9999 likes..man thats like the whole sc2 community...twice
@adamhubbert8896
@adamhubbert8896 Жыл бұрын
I always root for terran. If Bly played MaxPax I would root for HeroMarine. (Unless Raynor is playing).
@nmgaro2156
@nmgaro2156 Жыл бұрын
Is this an effective strategy, or it works because the others has never faced it and dont have the good answer to it, and then it becomes viable? Who knows.... maybe a bit of both
@wilshireanasurimbor3068
@wilshireanasurimbor3068 Жыл бұрын
Its not effective if you lose, and he did, so its not.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 Жыл бұрын
Second Starport or second Factory after 8 Rax is normal and players face it all the time. What is weird is continuing with Factory 3 & 4 in the late game against Protoss... that's more of a TvZ transition... doubtful this will ever work at the highest level.
@pyrom94
@pyrom94 Жыл бұрын
mech without mech???
@IderbatAriuna
@IderbatAriuna Жыл бұрын
Bank off and expand bro 😂😂😂😂
@JefferyBlue
@JefferyBlue Жыл бұрын
Back off and expand bro. ~Sun Tzu
@williamstruss5905
@williamstruss5905 Жыл бұрын
This comment is for the algorithm babyyyyyy
@Deadmeatsz
@Deadmeatsz Жыл бұрын
Imagine caring about starcraft 2 when the superior broodwar version exist. (most likley only koreans care).
@unclenchasbestos
@unclenchasbestos Жыл бұрын
@winterstarcraft have you ever done a sub goal reward or similar where the reward was you made a mini ABC Family style drama featuring Brenda and the queens. If not - i would donate at least $100 for it. Two minutes that's all i ask. You probably don't even need a script, just wing it. Karen gets caught leaving slime trails all over Megan's breeding estuary again and this time Megan's gonna have her forbidden lover Ricky the Swarm Host take her out of the game for good. Go 😂
@troublemakeitdouble1299
@troublemakeitdouble1299 Жыл бұрын
Idk what's up with you?
@lux514
@lux514 Жыл бұрын
> Polarity Change Unsubscribed.
@nicumarro7564
@nicumarro7564 11 ай бұрын
ооо нет морпехи медиваки танки не могут победить дизрапторов+темпестов +гейтмясо как так? т1 юниты проиграли т3 как так??? где баланс?? (сарказм)
@alibek8924
@alibek8924 Жыл бұрын
protos has much more powefull untirs, i am sorry but SC2 Imba
@molochtauren4685
@molochtauren4685 Жыл бұрын
yeah TY sucks. needs to go back to GM
@mikeiscoo2
@mikeiscoo2 Жыл бұрын
you are my favorite caster, i love harstem and pig but you are the best, actually just kidding Jimmy is #1 hes the real hero
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