Epic Wrench Test Part 1

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@montestu5502 4 жыл бұрын

A guy with 17 different 17mm wrenches may have a tool buying problem....

@simonnather4053 4 жыл бұрын

no, maybe he wants to se performance for differens brands and want the best stuff like me,

@Cervontais 4 жыл бұрын

i could do the same with 1/2 and 9/16 maybe some more but i need them

@richardsawdon3401 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your video. I live in the suburbs of Detroit, so I'm in the rust belt that you mentioned. My inclination is to choose 6 point sockets and wrenches for everything unless I'm forced to use 12 point. I've had too many rounded fasteners. Some of these companies try to design their 12 point sockets to minimize the possibility of rounding the fastener. I would be highly interested in seeing you test whether they can remove rusted bolts, although I'm not sure how you could perform that test in a practical manner with so many wrenches.

@josejr4482 4 жыл бұрын

Its great to see some unbiased review video. After everyone making videos on how great icon is, AFTER getting a sponsorship. Dont get me wrong Im happy they are moving up, but after selling themselves. I gave in and bought a metric wrench set and a stubby ratchet. First use out the box, I basically deleted the teeth on a wrench trying to a break a tie rod nut lose, and the ratchet binds up. Feels like Ive been lied to by all these guys on here who keep "reviewing" these tools

@seriousmechanicing 4 жыл бұрын

Snap-On wear so well, mine are 20+ years old and they still hold tighter than a new tekton/pittsburg/sunex. I have some Hazet too and they have been great but the Snap-On really feel nice.

@mmuffin9722 4 жыл бұрын

Like the comparison video of the wrenches. When I first started I used craftsman and they wanted to round the fasteners pretty easy from what i thought but then I went to snap on I really like them especially if there going to be in my hands all day but definitely for a beginning tech craftsman or Milwaukee or another brand will do just fine

@jaasx 4 жыл бұрын

Send them to AvE to break. He did some ratchet tests; it takes a pretty good setup to break a wrench.

@norge696 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the wrench will flex before breaking. just saying. Depends on the wrench.

@themountofoliveschannelwit7009 4 жыл бұрын

Before you do the next round of testing, is there any way to add 2 more wrenches, Carlyle and ICON as late entries

@_P0tat07_ 4 жыл бұрын

The Mount of Olives Channel with Gary Sawyer id like to see Kobalt, Husky, and maybe Pittsburgh just for shits and giggles.

@Toyotas_n__Tools 4 жыл бұрын

I like how the cornwell wrenches have a whole different angle then the rest.

@tedmattingly7564 4 жыл бұрын

It would be nice to see what kind of deflection the wrench does along the length under load, and then how much the open end spreads under load. You could use a shop press and a load cell to record the ft. Lbs. of torque this happens at. You may have to use a bolt fixture or welded bolt for this too. I like the fit and finish results so far. Cheers

@chrisbrady72 4 жыл бұрын

My snapon wrenches are around 25 years old and are first year pat. Pending flank drive and have been great with no signs of failure and have been used and abused. The other set I have is SK and not faired out as good only bought them because they were cheaper.

@powderriver2424 4 жыл бұрын

There’s always variances in tolerance it’s just the nature of products and knowing from experience is of great value to everyone especially the sharing of this information. Many should find this helpful in obtaining good tools without the guess work. Six point tools are invaluable in many tough situations but owning a variety is a must.

@vincelopez9455 4 жыл бұрын

Broke a couple of wrenches already. Used a Pittsburgh 1 1/2" wrench to loosen, and tighten bolts, from an axle to finals on a 988F wheel loader, but using a hydraulic crane, and lifting strap. Broke a 1/2" Craftsman Professional using a cheater bar to bust a drive line bolt. On the same bolt, bent a 1/2" old school Craftsman using a cheater bar.

@seanfallo592 4 жыл бұрын

Aren't some of them going to feel "loose" cause they're designed to catch the side if the fasteners instead of the corners?

@jfantis 4 жыл бұрын

Sean Fallo yes

@seanfallo592 4 жыл бұрын

@@jfantis alrighty thanx

@seanfallo592 4 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadesGarage yea it would be loose on corners and tight point of contact on the sides

@seanfallo592 4 жыл бұрын

@@RenegadesGarage alright

@michaeldeville1798 4 жыл бұрын

Use a barrel nut in the vice. And in the UK, Laser tools makes a wrench extender with a 1/2 drive (not sure if anything similar is available in America) you could test to failure with a digital torque wrench.

@mph5896 4 жыл бұрын

Are box end wrenches ever really an issue. In all my years of wrenching I have never broken one, or had one strip. I also have never used a cheater bar or anything like that on them. I do double wrench them, but also never had an issue on doing that either. I also have stayed pretty cheap on these while upgrading other tools. Craftsman, Tecton. I just ordered a set of Sunex with a range from 8 to 32 with no skips for $120.I needed the larger odd sized ones for a few recent jobs, so now is the time to buy.

@ViperMods_216 4 жыл бұрын

Working in industrial maintenance and oil pipeline I can say the wright and sk are ride or die reliable.

@jameylane9196 4 жыл бұрын

I did the same test with my Harbor Freights and Gearwrenches. They were about the same except for the open end of the Harbor Freight long pattern wrenches. The long ones with the triple notch - MAC rip offs?. The open end had zero play. Only did the 17mm though.

@blakelinn4499 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just starting out as a tech and I'd say Wright 958 set w/ Wright Grip is best value on the market right now for combination wrenches, ordered that 7-24mm for $250 a month ago from a local distributor. For reversible ratcheting box ends I paid visit to my local snap on man and ordered the 10mm-19mm flank drive plus set, he gave me the 7mm-19mm because that's what he had in stock. SK X Frames look pretty nice if your looking for 6-point ratcheting. Hope this helps those looking to get quality U.S.A wrenches

@gregblau8082 4 жыл бұрын

I did an exhaust manifold on a really rusty car yesterday. Snap on and ez red weren't close to fitting. I had to dig out the old beater pittsburghs. I guess everything has it's place.

@jamesu 4 жыл бұрын

A long Coupling nut is probably the only way to test this. A hex key is harder than any nut or bolt so it compromises the wrench grip especially the open ends with teeth. I think all but a few open end wrenches will twist off a 10mm or 12mm bolt in coupling nut without problem.

@TheRumbman 4 жыл бұрын

For testing use Bondhus 12186 17mm Long Hex L-Wrench.

@davidhull1610 4 жыл бұрын

Greetings from the U.K. Excellent video. The new Mac precision looks very similar to the latest generation of Facom wrenches and they seem to perform pretty well. Looking forward to watching you break some metal and I'm putting my money on the old Snap On! Its a shame that there are no British made wrenches in your test but honestly i dont think we make any these days. Keep up the good work! P.S. The correct pronunciation of Stahlwille is 'shtarl-villa'

@jfantis 4 жыл бұрын

david hull they are 90% the same as the Facom. The open end has slight differences, Stanley owns both brands.

@TassieLorenzo 2 жыл бұрын

King Dick is still made in the UK and they still make Whitworth spanners and sockets too. :)

@jedidiahcook2548 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, it is very appreciated. I know you said you have a set of gidore wrenches, and I was wondering where I can find a set for a reasonable price. (if you have some extra time and feel like responding)

@Blazer02LS 4 жыл бұрын

17 mm hardened hex stock Either something like an allen wrench or from a steel supplier.

@anthonygm85 4 жыл бұрын

I like my 20 year old craftsman for home use and my sks,snap ons, for work every one at the new shop is working with shop provided tools but me, theres a massive difference between. Professional level tools and budget tools Examples would be there length weight are far superior for ease of work being done,thickenees of the open/box is noticeably better on professional tools as well. comfort in the hand is preference based snap on wins in this hands down for me

@joenobody4191 4 жыл бұрын

I want to see the new icon vs gearwrench since that is about the same price points for upandcoming techs

@lynyrd583 4 жыл бұрын

Good test thanks for doing this! Maybe as you compare, you could push the better ones forward, and the below average back? One correction: Matco USA was not made by Armstrong. Danaher (who at one point owned Matco), made Matco, Armstrong, and Craftsman Professional. Note: The first Craftsman Professional wrenches were made by SK then again later by Danaher. Danaher was sold/formed APEX Tool Group. If you need the source material for this please let me know. I have a plethora of research material. Thanks again.

@jadeolin8514 3 жыл бұрын

Why would Danaher make wrenches for Armstrong when Armstrong was primarily a toolworks forge co? Doesn't seem to make sense, and doesn't track with most of the info out there.

@kyledh772 4 жыл бұрын

I have a set of ratcheting huskys, and gearwrench stubbys they only go up to 18 or 19, so the other day I bought a set of sunex that goes up to 33, haven't got to use the sunex much yet

@lexbroken8101 4 жыл бұрын

Great review. Would like to see Husky and the brand Lowes sells, they are common purchased wrenches.

@donaldhollums3278 4 жыл бұрын

I don't have any idas for testing, FRM. I only work part time for now. I know it's impossible to test every brand name of wrench on the market, but I'd like to have seen the Carlyle version. I've bought various other Carlyle tools and I've liked what I bought so far. I have the "Old School" Craftsman wrenches and the shallow and deep sockets all in metric and SAE. I plan on giving them over to my 15 year old son in the near future. I'm looking at various sets to replace the Craftsman with; I won't buy the "new' Craftsman. I'll see how your testing goes in Part Two as part of my decision making.

@TheSkilledMan 4 жыл бұрын

Weld the bolts to a piece of steel. Close enough to the head so that the shaft cannot twist in two and your will either bend/ break the wrench or round off the head of the bolt.

@J-ThomasRST 4 жыл бұрын

You could dial gauge the ends while the box end is on a wrench. You would have to weld up a bolt and plate or something.

@AutobahnDan 4 жыл бұрын

The carnage has already been done! Those poor butchered German brand names... 😢 🤣🤣🤣

@xcofcd 4 жыл бұрын

What's your favorite German brand? Staalwill, Gedorah or Haysett?

@AutobahnDan 4 жыл бұрын

moinmoin sto my willie! 🤣

@HardKnocksForge 4 жыл бұрын

I've got the same kinda video series in post right now. It's taken me a couple years to get all the ones I have, but I may be one of the only guys out here that knows just how much money you have sitting on that toolbox!

@flatratemaster 4 жыл бұрын

And yet it isn't enough

@frugalprepper 4 жыл бұрын

Find a Rural king and get some of the black hardened metric bolts. By the way you got a 17, I can borrow real quick?

@garretth.1920 4 жыл бұрын

"Still pretty tight after all these years" haha sorry. I like these type of comparison videos, thanks for doing it

@davidkanengieter 4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing: "That's what she said."

@hiluxmad 4 жыл бұрын

Put the wrench in the vise and an socket type Allen key on a 3/4 torque wrench and see what torque they give at

@morrisontimothy227 4 жыл бұрын

AvE has a hydraulic wrench breaker. Maybe find out what he's using.

@anthonygm85 4 жыл бұрын

Get a mandrel with a hex head and tap it to size and run the bolt through it and try using lock washers and lock tight to lock up the bolt and nut and put it in the vise

@mikechainz2245 4 жыл бұрын

Hi flat rate Master got a great suggestion for you how about 17 mm Allen socket into a digital torque meter on to the vice so that you could see the torque readings when they do fail

@inverseuniverse5727 4 жыл бұрын

I feel that the 15 degree offset on the boxed end is antiquated . I would rather have about 10 degrees . Also wrench or socket , seems like snapon is always the hero on rounded fasteners , when all else fails . P.s. Grind down el cheapo, Pittsburg, for thinner or custom shorties in a pinch .

@Rprecision 4 жыл бұрын

My only suggestion is to measure the head of the bolt. Everyone is assuming it is within SAE/ISO9001 specs. Sometimes bolts are made out of spec, or on the lower end of the tolerances. Measuring with a tape measure that's off isn't probably helpful. What if you tap a hole in a good steel plate, thread in a nut and bolt, run a stout weld around it. Give that a spin

@weldingjunkie 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Mike id be curious how they would measure out with a digital caliper for tolerance. It was interesting to see how many brands are actually out there, very competitive market.

@mikeholt3545 4 жыл бұрын

I use Wright tools daily and while some of their tools could be better they are super tough I have had a berk bar on a spud ratchet and didn't break it

@Codyhldn 4 жыл бұрын

May I please know the name of that toolbox behind you? I must own that....

@germangarcia5962 4 жыл бұрын

Hi FRM! You can get a grade 8 bolt and weld it to a steel work piece, maybe you'll need a few bolts welded for it, great!

@michaelbamber4887 4 жыл бұрын

Won't be grade 8.8 once you weld it, will be nice an soft as your morning turd, that is why you're not going to find welded nuts in heavy applications.

@marcophilhom6844 4 жыл бұрын

My recommendation is use 12 mm or 14 mm bolt head. Better chance of breaking see how much torque you can put on it before it round the boat head off. or a better break. Use the open end. be interesting to see if the notches on the inside of the open and help. I know they do. A lot of people don’t know that

@nathanv1500 4 жыл бұрын

If you want broken wrenches maybe switch from 17mm to 10mm?

@larrybryant1474 4 жыл бұрын

in my opinion, Honda makes the best wrenches in the world. i didnt know they existed until I saw eric the car guy showing his. very nice wrenches they are. keep up the hard work FRM.

@brandonmurphy4657 4 жыл бұрын

Honda makes the best everything...

@NRecob 4 жыл бұрын

So FRM are the Snap Ons your favorite?

@AM-nn9sv 4 жыл бұрын

I have seen guys use a 17mm Allen socket. Real Tool Reviews used a grade 8 bolt... the Wright Grip and SO flank drive plus sheared it. I imagine the 17mm Allen socket will mess up most of all of those wrenches.

@Pinkielover 3 жыл бұрын

did you use a micrometer on the bolt head to check it?

@keshmo12 4 жыл бұрын

Get a 17mm Allen key in a vice? Those are really hard lol. I like the comparison video. I was thinking icon would be in there! Or Pittsburgh!

@swaggin123425 4 жыл бұрын

We all know the results of that it's like letting a high school track star run at the Olympics, we all know it can finish but nowhere near the rest lol

@jpbiscaro8694 4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever used gray tools canada wrenches?

@Seveneleven44 3 жыл бұрын

I freaking LOVE the Hazet 600N series. Beauties!!

@LEGOCAMARO 4 жыл бұрын

Try them on a hex bit tool steel is harder then the bolt.

@picklepee2771 4 жыл бұрын

Project farm could rig something up to test them. Whether it be tolerances or strength . Also was the thinnest wrench called Gidorah?

@flatratemaster 4 жыл бұрын

Gedore

@dylankinch2735 4 жыл бұрын

I bought 6 - 24mm in the new mac precision torque wrenches and i love them. The feel of them is great.

@devinprice9700 4 жыл бұрын

drill and tap a piece of 3/4 steel more thread engagement

@sargetester99 4 жыл бұрын

Use the open end only and watch the jaws spread under torque

@michaelbamber4887 4 жыл бұрын

You know, it you spring a proper open ended spanner it will spring back to normal. Ive had this with gedore and britool.

@titytoucher1 3 жыл бұрын

The wrenches with tee hee are in fact looser it slowed the middle of the jaw to put pressure on the flats of the bolt while the teeth bite close to the corners

@niteninja0133 4 жыл бұрын

You should find a real soft bolt and put it in a vise and do a camera downview on the bolt head and turn the wrench slow to see how it grips and where it grips. I think that will be the best video

@W210Garage 4 жыл бұрын

Heyco maxline is best combo for me.

@brianjarrell9203 4 жыл бұрын

Why 17mm of all choices? Any reason?

@CarsExposed 4 жыл бұрын

Try to weld a nut to a chunky peace of steel or drill a hole through a peace of steel run a bolt in and weld it make that will work 👍👍👍👍

@simonnather4053 4 жыл бұрын

but why dident he make a simple test for little rounded bolts? whitch brands gripps a little rounded rusty bolts ?

@daveoneal5544 4 жыл бұрын

@FRM use a 17mm Allen on a breaker bar in the vice

@ozzstars_cars 4 жыл бұрын

I always heard it's not how big your wrench is, it's how you use it.

@96cr 4 жыл бұрын

The ones with teeth are a hair loose because of how they bite, if it was tighter it would just break the tips of the teeth off

@JJ-iw7nh 4 жыл бұрын

I use my set of harbor freight wrenches for the brake work. It's thin enough to get the slide pin out when it spins. Other better wrenches are too thick. Talk to the project farm guy for ideas

@genawilcox9039 4 жыл бұрын

Those long wrench at HF are great I use them every day

@JJ-iw7nh 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously. A hf wrench can take a beating.

@montevallomustang 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! But kinda pointless we all know the snap on wrenches are made of the strongest metal on earth vibranium lol

@scarling9367 3 жыл бұрын

Aren't the open ends with the teeth designed to be looser so the teeth engage the flats of a fastener?

@kyl3dr 3 жыл бұрын

The teeth engage closer to the corners if I recall correctly. I think that’s why they’re looser.

@kyl3dr 3 жыл бұрын

I have the wright grips and their open ends are awesome compared to other wrenches. I also just got the snap on flank drive plus which seems about the same. I have only had a chance to use the box end on the snap on so far. By comparison my gear wrench made in Taiwan wrenches have much worse open ends.

@ohcamsrazor1966 4 жыл бұрын

In Australia we say ‘ star willy ‘ for the German one

@FinallyMe78 4 жыл бұрын

The really cheap wrenches are made in India. Walmart's Hypertough and the normal Pittsburgh wrenches are all India made.

@joshjoy2535 4 жыл бұрын

Nice👍 I notice the new MAC is identical to the new Sidcrome wrenches here in Australia. Looking forward to see how they go.

@fatherfirefighter7751 4 жыл бұрын

Still waiting on part 2

@mcqueenfanman 4 жыл бұрын

I heard a guy recently complaining about some stubby wrenches that didn't have the flank drive feature, like you'd ever need that.

@shauncatlett6066 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any old school wright wrenches (v style opening)? Epsteins or Abbolox Industries may have a USA made Williams in 17mm.

@ifitsnotbrokenfixit1193 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video FRM.

@benmayne7910 4 жыл бұрын

18 17mm spanner’s 🔧🔧🔧🔧 what a collection

@zach914v8 4 жыл бұрын

Dang, I was really hoping you were going to be able to find HF's new icon wrench to test.

@freecandyvanman 4 жыл бұрын

Might have been more accurate with a vice and dial indicator love the channel though

@knasasduckkiller 4 жыл бұрын

Just a tip to new guys getting into the diesel and primarily heavy truck industry don’t buy a set of toothed wrench for your first set. Yes they are nice and I love my flank drive plus snap on wrecches on metal bolts or hydraulic fittings. But they suck for brass fittings on air systems. Personally I have a old school set of black Blackhawk wrenches and brass fittings is all they get used for. Yes down the line but your nice toothed wrench. But at first if you can’t afford both don’t get the toothed one.

@Mechazawa787 4 жыл бұрын

Try a nice long good quality lug nut with the threads going all the way down if you want to try to round the bolt head or sheer it off. Allen key in a vice to break the wrench (maybe). Love these videos.

@chrischiampo7647 4 жыл бұрын

Just Weld the Nut and Bolt Together and Then Test In Vise Till Failure FRM 😀😎🧰👨🏼‍🔧

@tonyb8443 4 жыл бұрын

When testing wrenches; who tests the bolt heads? Aka is the bolt head up to standards?

@swaggin123425 4 жыл бұрын

I get where your coming from but I mean at the end of the day it's the same bolt being used on all the wrenches so they all have the same baseline they are testing on if it's a quarter of a mm from being a perfect 17mm bolt then all the wrenches results will be tweaked by that quarter of a mm and the results of which is looser and tighter will be still be accurate so would that actually make much of a difference at all?

@tonyb8443 4 жыл бұрын

@@swaggin123425 if the test is to see how tight of a fit I would say yes. If a die to make the bolt is old the bolt head would be over sized, and a tighter fit in the wrench. If the die is new the bolt head would be smaller and a looser fit. Like anything there is going to be an allowable tolerance. To save money a manufacturer will use a die as long as possible. The question should be, what wrench size opening would provide for the maximum bolt head tolerance. ( And through experience is oversized better to deal with rust, but not too big to cause rounding) Someone on here might know if there is a ASME/ANSI standard or some other standard to reference that all manufacturers are to follow.

@dalecrummie5818 4 жыл бұрын

Go to an aircraft parts house and get the grade 8 bolts and nuts.

@extramustardplease3234 4 жыл бұрын

Man that's a sweet box

@RobertCiampa9112 4 жыл бұрын

Happy Friday!

@joebelichio6974 2 жыл бұрын

I can tell u 100% if u test a brand new snap on flank drive and a brand new Stahlwille with vernier calipers the Stahlwille have the tightest tolerance of any spanners (wrenches). Imo and most others that aren't American we believe Stahlwille are better than snap on

@user-rd4ie7dc6z 5 ай бұрын

They suck watch other reviews of them. They break easy. Tight tolerances mean nothing if the metal is garbage

@jfantis 4 жыл бұрын

Taiwan GW are stamped, TW or Taiwan normally. The rest are China.

@ZVPieGuy 4 жыл бұрын

I came here to see how the new Icon wrenches compared to the others and they were completely omitted. Pretty disappointed.

@BMfins 4 жыл бұрын

Why not use a micrometer?

@themanthemyththelegend1392 4 жыл бұрын

So straight up I see the Snapon wrech has had the fuck used out of it and the rest got brand new chrome..........

@nitrous07me 4 жыл бұрын

Weld some nuts & bolts on a thick piece of steel & after completion attach it to a vise & go ham with your cheater pipe 😅 idk. Ps. Maybe make the piece in a T shape so the vise has something to calmp onto