Rooting hard for Gunrunners blood derby day. Epicenters track record says a lot to me..doesn't mean a derby win but he was FLYING! Much success Winchel !!!!!!! Echo Zulu...
@Soratheepicwubbozz2 жыл бұрын
Epicenter will win the derby.... just take a long look at the Louisiana derby, he won pulling a bus ... if zandon & smile happy as made improvement then one can also assume so as Epicenter... he should be very fresh coming off the little respite, hence he be very hard to beat .
@ralphpadilla92832 жыл бұрын
Epicenter is a fighter of a race horse and he is destined for greatness. His mind is conditioned to fight for the lead. That's the kind of horse that will make you some money. Don't forget that he's a three year; a very mature three year old. He's a work horse amongst many show ponies. He's been toying with the competition he's faced and he's fit as a fiddle and on the improve. However, there are a few young horses he hasn't contested that will be in the Derby. Some of these other horses may lack experience but they too have great potential and chance wear the roses. Out of curiosity, why isn't the weight of the horses included in the Racing Form? That's would be a good stat to have. I know some tracks used to post the weight of the horses.
@RobertSmith-lg7jp2 жыл бұрын
Danced every dance , hopefully hes not a dead horse come derby . Looks like a lot of contenders this year .
@dougdriever80582 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary. Love the site
@discoveringhorseracing30782 жыл бұрын
Glad your enjoying it! Thanks Buddy!
@thebluetiger262 жыл бұрын
If epicenter can get a similar trip to the LA derby he's got a chance
@PaulP19632 жыл бұрын
Different track, different track conditions, and pace always matters …. But his 1 3/16 time beats all but three Preakness winners at the same distance since 2000.
@bnegs5212 жыл бұрын
Wow great point!!
@groussac2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Hadn't heard that before. Any other points you care to make about the makeup, running or outcome of the upcoming Derby, I'm all ears.
@kimoharris8082 жыл бұрын
It's also impressive that Joel intentionally rated him in his last race...you can see him pulling early but Joel got him to settle down. From this post Joel has options now and can sit him anywhere early. Add that to the fact that he added an extra 16th in his last 2 races and each time won handily the distance won't be a problem. Improving his speed figures in each of his last 3 races. Tactical speed...can get the distance...steady works...looks formidable
@bnegs5212 жыл бұрын
@@kimoharris808 I think its gonna be Epicenter vs Tabia. I'm not crazy bout the 3 hole but he should be ok. If it gets really muddy l@@k out for Barber Road and Mo Donegal flying late.
@kimoharris8082 жыл бұрын
@@bnegs521 I'm in total agreement! Taiba and Epicenter are my top 2 picks...Mo Donegal and Zandos are my late threats tho like Epicenter I'm not crazy about Mo's post but he too should be ok. And yes, if the track gets wet watch out for Barber. Here's one I can't throw out...Crown Pride...like Epicenter he handled 1 3/16 comfortably and if his last work is legit he's got a solid post to stalk from and Lamieur is a solid tactical rider with tons of experience in large fields...his only bad race was on a wet track. Taiba was a little green in the lane yet drew off easily. I think the our top 2 will have decent value
@duckshaker2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this together. I disagree with your statement that Epicenter is going to be "the odds on favorite". He may be the favorite, but no way will he be odds on. There may have been an odds on favorite in the Derby but I can't remember one. (Odds on to me means below even money.)
@discoveringhorseracing30782 жыл бұрын
I learn from my own channel. The name of the channel is Discovering Horse Racing and I am relatively new to the sport . Thanks for the clarification . Glad your enjoying the videos, Best of luck Saturday
@brianht14342 жыл бұрын
Do you know what odds on favorite means? It means less than $4.00 to win! This horse will not pay less than $7.00 to win, you can bet on that! Odds-on? LMAO It's obvious that you don't play the 🐴 horses.
@discoveringhorseracing30782 жыл бұрын
@@brianht1434 Thanks Brian, I just fixed the mistake and now I know the difference. The show is called Discovering Horse Racing because I have only discovered the sport recently.
@kwmusic45602 жыл бұрын
The way he explodes when he hits the final turn is impressive. He's winning the Derby today.
@Athena9082 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@woooooot60212 жыл бұрын
rofl
@theravagedgrapefruit81902 жыл бұрын
You see how call me midnight beat epicenter? Barber road will do the same thing. Barber Road/Epicenter exacta
@penelopelopez82962 жыл бұрын
He’s look versatile and he’s had a race over the track. I wonder if he ran his derby in his final prep. I’m curious about his post position because if he doesn’t get a good pp he’ll have to Use himself up getting a decent position into that first turn then begin his stretch run down the backstretch which will exhaust him. If he gets a decent pp he should be right there. Whether he wins who knows but with a good post he should be right there at the end. They’re all so lightly raced at this point and some of them are probably still improving which makes handicapping this race so difficult for than it was a few decades ago. Don’t be surprised if a long shot gets up there. Twenty horse field….it should be interesting.
@RBBAGs2 жыл бұрын
How right you were my friend
@juanramos88362 жыл бұрын
Moster horse 🐎🐎🐎!!; Let's go Rosario.kentucky derby!!
@adammiller66062 жыл бұрын
Gary king , as in the sport of Kings? Cool! 🏇 ( I subbed bro. Your not all alone, hahahaaaa.
@discoveringhorseracing30782 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam, I really think Epicenter is going to win the Derby.
@adammiller66062 жыл бұрын
@@discoveringhorseracing3078 I think he has a real good shot. Still has to face contenders from central and west US. He’s probably the horse to beat. . I kind of like Smile Happy and Forgotten Kingdom along w Epicenter. Thanks for the upload. 🏇
@risky7252 жыл бұрын
@@discoveringhorseracing3078 subbed! Nice channel and very helpful! I think Epi is a super duper horse and has done zero wrong. Not sure if he's fast enough or will be able to hold on in the Derby stretch. Then again, he showed great versatility coming off the pace in the La Derby. He's going to have to fend off the likes of White Abarrio, Messier, Mo Denegal, Smile Happy and Charge It if Pletcher gets him schooled in time. And they ain't Surfer Dudes!
@anthonyvargas8882 жыл бұрын
This may be the horse to beat beat in the derby. But you better also look at the top two finishers in the Santa Anita Derby, Taiba & Messier! Originally trained by the Man! The gray haired wizard, Mr Kentucky Derby, Bob Baffert!
@davidsebastien6202 жыл бұрын
Taiba has it all.Field was boring and now it's Ike lookout. Hope there is great weather. I loved Medina and we are right there again
@shawnroot66712 жыл бұрын
The man that has cheated for years the game is in trouble too many cheaters look at the last two derbies. Big cheaters that used dope to get where they want to be its a shame for the horses and the bettors U
@shawnroot66712 жыл бұрын
The Wizard is a hoax just like the juice men dutrow service I always wonder why he ran his derby winner for a 16 maiden claimer but now I know it's all about the dope
@agustindejesus73982 жыл бұрын
He can cheat no more. Oh yes he can, maybe from the distance.
@agustindejesus73982 жыл бұрын
Fairground, a fast track and Churchill Downs are very different tracks.
@ralphpadilla92832 жыл бұрын
Charge It will be in the superfecta
@salrusso12332 жыл бұрын
5 horse superfecta box 📦 epicenter, modongal, zandon, white abarrio and charge it ..🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@hlinville60342 жыл бұрын
I feel like Epicenter gets buried early on. 3 is bad spot. I got 12,6,1,9
@jeffdecker6272 жыл бұрын
Soo...he battled Surfer Dude in his first 4 races? Interesting. With so many front runners...I honestly don't see Epicenter winning the Derby. Mo Donegal on top...all for second...Barber Road third.
@jeffdecker6272 жыл бұрын
I walk that comment back a little bit...The Louisiana Derby seemed liked the first time he had dirt kicked in his face, he had his best race off the pace. Idk...I guess I can see it.
@bnegs5212 жыл бұрын
@@jeffdecker627 I love mo donegal too but he drew the 1 and even with his late running style that's terrible for him.
@jackwoods96042 жыл бұрын
Gonna be a Very Weak Derby if Epicenter is the Best Horse in race
@ronaldgreen97722 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Epicenter is a real weak suspect favorite.
@Alp5602 жыл бұрын
All his prior races at the fairgrounds he led with 6 furlongs splits of 1: 12 and change.
@mariolorbes29362 жыл бұрын
9
@chrisdukefields98682 жыл бұрын
Spit the bit his first race. Won't get distance
@garypatrick3122 жыл бұрын
This horse is a worth favorite watch zozo mo Donegal taiba that the exacta trifecta and superfecta the rest no chance not impressed with their times
@k104st2 жыл бұрын
Epicenter just doesn't seem to have that pop! He's gonna fold in the derby. BUT..... he is a speed horse in a race lacking a lot of speed. I just don't see it
@agustindejesus73982 жыл бұрын
A horse that give up in his first start at Churchill Downs and walk at the end....cant win the Kentucky Derby.
@hiramdiaz30592 жыл бұрын
That WAS JUST A BAD RACE. EVERY HORSE CAN HAVE ONE GOIN TO THE DERBY THIS HORSE IS A DIFFERENT HORSE 🐎 I THIN HE IS IN THR EXACT 1st or 2d BUT BELIEVE HE PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME.🐎🐎🐎🐎🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴