Epiphone Texan vs. Gibson J45 Standard | Does Scale Length Make a Difference?

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Жыл бұрын

We've got a couple nice J-45-esque guitars in the studio today; does scale length make a difference? Check out the Epiphone Texan vs. the Gibson J-45 Standard.
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@iamthemusicman13 Жыл бұрын

Also, Cooper you are beyond talented my man... both of you are! Love the demos!

@apropro1198 Жыл бұрын

Thank you guys for this video. I’ve been waiting and hoping this. You’re the best!

@gerrickdastrup8953 10 ай бұрын

Great playing. Both sound great

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

Clear, intelligent and engaging discussion of scale length. I play 24.83 inch scale length on my acoustic and would go with the J45 out of the two. Either would be a nice to have though!

@terrytosh7678 Жыл бұрын

I definitely hear a tonal difference. Both are amazing, especially in Cooper’s hands. But the J45 has more warmth to my ears. But then there’s that historical/sentimental aspect of McCartney playing “Yesterday” with a Texan on the Ed Sullivan Show. Seeing that live on tv way back when was what made me want to play.

@christophereadgbe2976 Жыл бұрын

I don't think I heard a word either of you guys said, I just kept looking at that Cherry Red J-45 😍

@artprince9163 Жыл бұрын

I used to have a Heritage Cherry sunburst color J-45 Deluxe and it was a wonderful guitar till the binding started to disintegrate! That was a problem with the material used on the binding during a period of time. But before that happened it was a wonderful guitar and a looker. It looked like a Hummingbird without the bird on the pickguard. Both guitars sounded great so I would have to play them myself to determine which I preferred. Of course my simple noodling wouldn't do either justice.

@jed1166 Жыл бұрын

“…We decided that we would get a soda. My favorite flavor, cherry red”. I love the looks of the red J-45! I tune down to D standard, so the longer scale Texan would be the logical choice. BUT, the Cherry Red is so cool looking, I would take it over the Texan, and just use beefier strings to keep the tension where I want. The tone is so close, I’m going with aesthetics!

@iamthemusicman13 Жыл бұрын

I literally just bought that Cherry J-45 this past Friday!

@sooparticular Жыл бұрын

how is it!!!?? congrats

@iamthemusicman13 Жыл бұрын

@@sooparticular It is superb! Still breaking it in of course but I restrung it with some D'Addario XS Light gauge strings phosphor bronze. Tightened truss rod just a hint to get the action a bit lower. other than that it is a great sounding and playing piece of art! played taylor and takamine for over 25 years until getting the gibson, no regrets at all :)

@sooparticular Жыл бұрын

@@iamthemusicman13 thanks! I just gig with my martin CS d 18..amazing guitar...I am lookin for a j 45! pickup decent??? thanks

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

@@sooparticular 👍🎶🇺🇲

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

@@iamthemusicman13 👍🏻🔥🎶🇺🇲

@davidohara6515 Жыл бұрын

I'm with you guys . The Texan sounded better than the j45 . But then , I've never played a j45 and thought "wow " . Hats off to Epiphone. Who are really Gibson in disguise!

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@multipipi1234 Жыл бұрын

Thumbs ..down. That Texan USA is a bloody Gibson. They won't get nicked in a pub...because people have misguided perceptions of the business.

@multipipi1234 3 ай бұрын

Boob😢@@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward

@trevorm3354 Ай бұрын

@@multipipi1234 aaaaand so were the original Texans... soooo?

@AlfimAlves 6 ай бұрын

7:55 Texan Strumming 10:06 J45 Strumming

@fabrizfabriz2512 3 ай бұрын

...and so what..for you?

@AlfimAlves 3 ай бұрын

@@fabrizfabriz2512 for anyone, you gay

@chuckrips Жыл бұрын

It’s been so long since you guys have done some budget guitar picks ex: best guitars under $300/$600 etc. I’m looking to buy a guitar & those videos are the best 👍

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

👍👎👍

@jason.paredes Жыл бұрын

The Texan has the D18 sound, with more bass. J45 seems to be a bit brighter, maybe a slightly less focused sound.

@texhaines9957 Жыл бұрын

I like the shorter scale length. Then there is the neck profile that Changes on Gibsons from time to time. Thanks Chris for the J45 you found for me, although that Texan sounds good. Thanks Chris and Cooper

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

🇺🇲👍🏻🎶

@johnturner1624 Жыл бұрын

I HAVE A 1964 EPIPHONE TEXAN AND IT LOOKS IDENTICAL TO YOURS

@apropro1198 Жыл бұрын

I already have the USA Texan, but because of the difference, I might also have to get a J45. I have a very experienced guitar dealer (sold Gibsons, Martins … for decades). His opinion was, based on hundreds of sold guitars, that the quality with J45 has varied: some are great, some are not. With the USA Texan, he told that every one of them has been perfect. Comes from the same factory and from the same luthiers… His theory was, that the Epiphone-USA-Montana-lineup is a new effort for Gibson, and they are trying their best with it. Interesting theory… But, very pleased with my Texan and also looking for a J45.

@iamthemusicman13 Жыл бұрын

the cherry j45 has a bit of a wider more expanded sound if that makes sense, the texan sounded more tight, both were great but the cherry j45 takes the cake for me. The last part of each demo though the texan takes the cake. very hard to say which is on top, both are amazing.

@johnlord1399 Жыл бұрын

Both sound great! I'd take either one, but practically speaking, shorter scale length lets these hands play longer these days.

@lilycat1694 Жыл бұрын

That’s a great sounding J45!! Epiphone nice, but preferred the J45. Nice demo.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@rlsmith6904 Жыл бұрын

I like the Texan for flat picking and the J-45 for finger picking. It has to do with the decay. The J-45 gets “busy” or “crowded” with the harder attack. It is possible that aspect of its sound could be used to advantage with a microphone, playing a little softer and easier, and lasting through a two or three set gig.

@gregweber3387 10 ай бұрын

Nice job playing those guitars in the demo Cooper. Both guitars sound good; but I think I have to give the Gibson a slight edge.

@AlfimAlves 6 ай бұрын

8:37 Texan Fingerpicking 10:48 J45 Fingerpicking

@donhoward1975 Жыл бұрын

Cooper is an awesome guitar player. I think the Texan the best.

@josephbelcher2568 Жыл бұрын

Same wood & scale length, I'd be interested in a comparison between a USA Epiphone Texan and a Martin D-18. I think I saw the D-18 for a hundred dollars cheaper, though it is plainer looking.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@tomformanek3312 Жыл бұрын

I clearly like the Texan better. I just prefer punchier mahogany dreadnaughts. For that reason both a Guild D40 Traditional and Martin D18 would be higher on my list too. The J-45 is a great guitar if that is the sound you are after. I am just not swayed by who plays what and certainly don't want to fall into being a snob about my taste or trying to impress people with a headstock. I repeat the J-45 is a great guitar. I also hope it has gotten past it's consistency issues too of the recent past.

@artwise1415 Жыл бұрын

J45 by miles. Thank you guys

@Big.E 10 ай бұрын

That Texan just does it for me it's incredible. Both are but the Texan is something else

@3cardmonty602 Жыл бұрын

I prefer the J45. It’s warmer. It’s got a real boom to the low end that I prefer. Plus, as you age you acquire more arthritis in the hands and a shorter scale length is preferable. I’m 62 now & I don’t feel like eating ibuprofens like breath mints.

@HeliBenj 5 ай бұрын

Cooper’s a beast

@Sirstarfish 7 ай бұрын

10:48 vs 8:37

@Big.E Жыл бұрын

J45 sweet, sweet sound

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

I watched this again because I love mahogany guitars. I like both but need neither. I have a nice old Epiphone case but I have a D-18GE so I would go with cherry red. I could use a J-45 and this is unique.

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

...but I have a LOT of mahogany guitars.

@softsouthernknight Жыл бұрын

The J-45 has a clean sound.

@vocalion9519 Жыл бұрын

The J45 sure seemed to sound a bit wild and wooly when strummed hard.

@jjoltra Жыл бұрын

Best sound J45, best look the Epi. 🔥

@texhaines9957 Жыл бұрын

Cooper, why can't you have both the J45 AND Martin D-28 and D-18?

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@jazzhippie3878 Жыл бұрын

length always makes the difference!! That's what she said!!

@jshu1625 Жыл бұрын

my lady likes the short scale

@jshu1625 Жыл бұрын

I think the gibson still sounds better

@harryhoward4178 Жыл бұрын

You guys need to turn up your volume on your podcast.

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

Pardon?

@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Жыл бұрын

I genuinely liked the Texan more. Granted I easily love both of ‘em. Thinking more about it, I think Elliott Smith may of played a Texan on occasion (too lazy to Google) so not rlly surprised I liked the sound a tiny bit more. Both bad to the buttocks acoustics.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@Sjobeck7 11 ай бұрын

Elliott Smith Championed an Epiphone Texan you are correct, as well as a Martin D-28 that was so beat up he called it Gramps and at the Oscars he played a Yamaha Red Label FG 180 ( early 70s model )

@cozxmos 10 ай бұрын

he also played a 60s J45

@patrickmeaney6743 Жыл бұрын

Good video-p

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

👍🏻🔥🎶🎶

@CarlosGonzalez-tx4cb Жыл бұрын

I disagree that longer scale length means more projection. I have two good friends that are guitar builders and they both say it’s theoretical, but in practice it’s bunk. There are so many more things that impact projection than scale length. I had a 20 year old classical with a standard 25.5in scale and a brand new one with slightly shorter scale, only difference was the short scale. In terms of volume, they are both equal. Granted the shorter scale length is newer. Both spruce, so the newer guitar will have greater projection over time.

@multipipi1234 Жыл бұрын

Wow . Hope you like plectrums.

@fabrizfabriz2512 3 ай бұрын

No way... Especially for acoustic guitars, shorter scale guitars are more playable than longer ones and that's the reason why you producers let the shorters in more expensive prices; that's a clear trick: Common-short-sausage-hand-players first buy cheaper ones (obvious) and then for a sort of relief want to buy the shorter scales more suitable and less painful to play from Blues shuffles on.. and so they'll buy twice... (while obv. large-hand-players don't need) good business guys, everything planned! ;-)

@mikeyohe4750 8 ай бұрын

I’ll take the J45. Bigger, fuller sound and projection.

@HarryNicNicholas Жыл бұрын

i have a 66 j45 and a 69 epi texan. that's it.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

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@texhaines9957 Жыл бұрын

More out of Mahogany? Martin 000-18 VTS!

@angelg8445 Жыл бұрын

That’s my guitar!

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

I like my CEO 7

@user-ft8yu8hv7m 7 ай бұрын

Thought the j45 sounded way more bright .. not necessarily a good thing

@jmonni8 10 ай бұрын

The difference is pretty astonishing. J45 is warmer and more pronounced. It’s almost like you used a mic from a iPhone for the Texan and then used a quality external mic for the J45. J45 is also 2grand more… I’d go with the Texan because of price. I’m curious how the Epiphone j45 sounds compared to the Texan.

@multipipi1234 7 ай бұрын

2 grand?

@paulhendershott667 Жыл бұрын

I probably missed it, but I'm thinking this the USA Texan at the same $2,849 price as the J-45? Also, is the Non-USA Texan made in China at $799 all the same materials and specs as the USA model? I would think not, but on Sweetwater they look similar...

@The1stLumiens Жыл бұрын

nut width difference, no?

@mikechivy Жыл бұрын

It’s the USA Texan for sure

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

They are basically the same price (specifically the Texan is 50 bucks cheaper at $2799). There are reasonable differences in the specs, material and finish. Different neck profile (USA is round D, Chinese is slim 60s C). Bone nut for USA, graphtech for Chinese, wider nut on USA, Indian Laurel fretboard on Chinese vs Inidan Rosewood for USA, USA uses LR Baggs pickups vs Fishman Sonitone for Chinese. I suspect the bracing may be different, though cannot confirm. Perhaps most significant of all: the USA has a nitro finish while the Chinese one has a poly finish. On solid bodies I don't care about this, but it's a big deal on acoustics. Finally, you get a hard case with the USA and no case with the Chinese.

@paulhendershott667 Жыл бұрын

@@rexrathtar3893 Thanks Rex, great explanation. It seems that for thre same-ish price you get a lot more from the USA model

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

Well, I think you get what you pay for. To be clear, the Chinese-Masterbilt Texan is much cheaper than the US-built Texan. It is the US-built Gibson J45 and the US-built Texan that are close in price. They will both have similar specs in terms of nitro finish, will both came with a case, and have rosewood fretboards, etc. All the differences I listed previously were between the two Texans (Chinese and US), which are $2000 apart in price.

@sooparticular Жыл бұрын

the j 45 all the way...its fuller punchier

@trl6913 Жыл бұрын

Uh oh, I have an Epi's Sound Les Paul and a Epi es-339 in, ahhh ,Vintage Sunburst AND, A PRS S2 McCarty 594 in ahhh Tobacco Burst... Cool vids guys! I've been checkin' on youse. I am ready for a small, parlor-ish, accoustic for me living room also I was encouraged by your comment that you had a short scale in your living room .( you briefly, hesitate) and then say "accoustic", cool!. Thanks! I DO kike your vids. I'm at the point to go accoustic! All information is helpful. A parlor-ish with cutaway electric, slow withdrawal from electric...., in the same Korsa and Mahogany(?) youse did on the 900(!) So, beautiful! Any thoughts guys??? (Edit) Maybe an OM? I don't know sizes, guys. Sorry, I forgot to look up your names please excuse my rudeness.

@multipipi1234 6 ай бұрын

D18 and Texan same specs. Long scale. That would be a better review.

@AlfimAlves 6 ай бұрын

D18 has square shoulders and the Texan is sloped. Pretty much the only external difference

@multipipi1234 6 ай бұрын

Yep..I agree. The comparison should be between these two.

@johnturner1624 Жыл бұрын

LOVE TO HEAR COOPER PLAYING THAT TEXAN

@eazyrider6122 Жыл бұрын

Hes a good player so all the rest don't matter.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

Should be...I taught him

@lion9171 2 ай бұрын

To me the texan sounds better then j45. It is more balanced

@JohnNesbit1957 Жыл бұрын

One thing I have found for sure after watching hundreds of these Alamo music video reviews and comparisons, is that no matter how good the Epiphone or the less expensive of the two guitars sound, the comment section always favors the more expensive Gibson or Taylor. And that is mental conditioning in favor of something that costs more money. It tells me a couple of things. That people do not know the history and background of Epiphone Guitars or they don't know how guitars are made and what makes them better in sound or build. The truth is that Gibson and or Taylors are not superior to all of the guitars.

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

Actually I do know the history and I own neither. I do have two Martin guitars and others. Also these guitars are only about $50 different in price. I also preferred the sound of the Gibson but I have no intention of buying either. I have my mahogany guitars well covered.

@thesimulations8900 Жыл бұрын

Acoustics more so than any other guitar you get what you pay for. I spent $500 on an 1964 "inspired by" Texan. This was in 2010. Man what an unplayable "uninspiring" hunk of shit! Horribly built. Would love a J45. Someday.😕

@vasral Жыл бұрын

unfair comparison in the style of playing. What he played is certainly suitable for a longer scale and a rear-bracing dreadnought, so the Texan wins. If he would play traditional blues the J45 would prevail. That music was mainly composed in shorter scale guitars. Give it a shot to see what happens

@philc4520 Жыл бұрын

Gibson is clearer, brighter, louder & more articulate. Looks crappy though in red.

@multipipi1234 7 ай бұрын

Baps.

@terryjohinke8065 Жыл бұрын

Who in their craziness decided to defile the Gibson J-45 ? I like smaler scale- makes each fret easier to play. That clour is Vile, cheap and reeks of a cheap Chinese guitar.What were Gibson thinking?

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised you have hands free to play the guitar while clutching your pearls.

@terryjohinke8065 Жыл бұрын

That Gibson J-45 Cherry horror won't last a year in sales.The ugliest thig i've seen. The Epiphone Texan is the one. I had one for 17 years.

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are out of touch with the current guitar buying demographic. You probably have some insight to share on what people wanted in the early 2000s though.

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

@@rexrathtar3893 👎🇺🇲

@brucewaynee1452 3 ай бұрын

man u guys talk a fkn lot ffs just play

@jimmymack6820 3 ай бұрын

You all talk too much. Simply play it and our ears will tell us what's better. Boring.

@JackTheRabbitMusic Жыл бұрын

Gibson makes some of the UGLIEST acoustic guitars around. I can’t get past the upside down bridge...it’s hideous...but, to each their own. I’m not a fan of the brand, the sound, or the aesthetic. As far as I am concerned, Martin, Taylor, and Gibson don’t even exist. I would never buy any one of these brands, but I understand you are running a retail store, so you have to be nice about such things. Peace. 🐰💙🇺🇸🎸🎶✌️

@gforce7four Жыл бұрын

And James Taylor, Paul Simon, Neil Young, Paull McCartney, John Lennon, Jim Croce, Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, Dan Fogelburg, John Mayer, Ed Sheeran, and even Andy Griffith plus countless of others who have played these brands would disagree. But thanks anyway for that useful bit ofl input.

@rexrathtar3893 Жыл бұрын

I can assure you they do exist.

@G_Demolished Жыл бұрын

How’s your Esteban guitar holding up?

@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Жыл бұрын

Ok bunny rabbits