The series about the Frankfurt school is among the best of your works. This episode especially. Thumbs up from an Italian supporter

This episodes of the Frankfurt School has depressed the shit out of me

7:50 Work and consumption 11:00 Free time 13:45 Escaping our world 19:30 True art 20:00 Standardization 21:00 Music 24:00 Life is not a movie 25:50 Writing 26:45 What can an average person do? 27:20 art 27:30 cycle of oppression

This entire series has changed my outlook on the world/society/myself. Thank you very, very f-cking much mate.

There's an idea that part of this episode reminded me of. In a work called The Technological Society, Jacques Ellul makes an argument that the drive for efficiency is totalitarian, and removes any semblance of free choice for anyone in terms of production. You either adapt new technological innovations to be as efficient as possible and keep up with competition, or you perish as everyone else races ahead. In essence, there is only an illusion of choice, leaving only life instead of suicide, maintaining a process of feeding into the technoindustrial hegemony over human life. This is only one idea from one of Ellul's works, but he is a remarkable thinker. I would love to see you get into some of his ideas one day

Thank you so much. It's people like you that educate the world to end this madness about "da sjw Marxist" bs

"Imagine if to walk the path of Christ you had to buy the sandals he was wearing." Haha nuts

incredible work. great job!

10:00 As a student I am studying to become one of those designers on high. The comment on products designed only for mass consumption is only partially true. Around the same time as the frankfurt school, there was the bauhaus school who fled tyranical facist rule, and spread a lot of views on how to design, responsibly, ethically, and with an acknowledgement of our place in the world as a whole. While not maybe a pure philosophy, it might be a fun topic to explore.

This episode is so good. Thank you!!

I think this is my favorite episode of this podcast so far

Alot of people in the comments seem to be expressing the same individualist attitude that comes with alienation, further fueled by neo Liberal myth of individual entrepreneurship paving the way for success and fulfillment (despite the fact you need a massive excess of capital to even stand a chance in the 'free market') The point Marx makes is that due to capitalism divide and conquer model is that the workers have little to no say in the material conditions of their work (espicailly working hours and job security) , and with globalisation the source of this exploitation taking the form of faceless multinational corporations (Musk, bezos, gates seemingly being omniscient figures evading tax like vampires to sunlight) the prevailing ideological antagonisms between the 99% slow or prevent any meaningful revolution from taking shape

Absolutely fantastic

I think the brief reference to Harry Potter outlines a really interesting disagreement between Adorno and Horkheimer on one side and someone like Jordan Peterson on the other. What Peterson would say in regard to the success of not only the Harry Potter franchise, but also of these superhero movies and (to some degree, science fiction), is that those stories are so appealing because they connect us with archetypal truths about human existence. It is not that we want to escape the world we are in today and immerse ourselves with these stories in order to forget the horrors of working life under capitalism, but because there is this deeper meaning that connects us to these stories. That would be the archetype of Carl Jung. What Jung described was this 'collective intelligence' which consists of layers and layers of stories that shape our understanding of reality, like meta-truths or hyper-truths. And they are embodied by all sorts of people within stories, from religious stories to more modern approaches like Harry Potter. Potter, the hero, speaks truth into being and does what is right through sacrifice. He is the pinnacle of the archetypal meta-truth. What you see when you look at these ideas is at how many different levels you can analyze them. I believe that this Marxist conceptualization is certainly thought provoking and to some extent also useful, but it does not do justice to the connection we have with stories and art in a more general sense. There are aspects of art that speak to us in a deeper sense, something in the unconscious. That should be noted more often when talking about cultural artifacts in Marxist theory and critical theory.

This helps me alot at my studying habit.

I wish I could invite you to my Critical Theory class! Thanks for making you tube a place where people can think

This episode was rather interesting, actually. Well, they all are, but this one really got me. Before listening to this, I believed religion was some big antagonistic force that should be gotten rid of. But this made me beg the question "do we need religion after all?" I personally value the truth pretty highly, but as you've said, we only need knowledge to serve some purpose. Otherwise it's pointless. So what's the harm of a few lies, if they give meaning to our life? Life is objectively meaningless anyway. What's it matter? Also what you said about consumerism, and work. Really put into perspective how our society is all that great as it's made out to be at times. Every once in a while, I like to think of ways of creating a utopian society. Though every time so far I've had a hard time thinking if a good way. I had the idea of a society where there wasn't anyone in control, but that left gaps for people to use and abuse others. Now that doesn't seem like any sort of good society. After watching this, I'm starting to think that, perhaps there is no possible utopia we could reach. P.S. I may have mixed up the last two episodes into this, as I have been bingeing them. My points still stand regardless, even if I wasn't right about it all being specifically this episode. P.P.S. I've been thinking of making a web series here in KZfaq about philosophy and science, and exploring different ideas and getting to the bottom of it all. Some of what you've said here, and what I've said for that matter, may just make it into an episode.

I found this episode very funny with the discussion of boxes. And don't forget, when you die you go out in a box too!

Working for survival and luxury isn't unique to capitalism though, nor is the draw towards fantasy and other escapist tendencies. People have been making up stories for 10s of thousands of years, through every form of society.

Hey. I thought I left a message here about an interest in some sort of local event in Seattle, but I don't see it now. Have you considered having live events in Seattle?

A fast food worker might understand this alienation (maybe).

The Black Parade Memories Two songs that are based on Pachelbel’s Cannon in D. Same chord progression. It’s sad that art is becoming so tarnished by the system…

The audio is kind of low. I'm on full blast and can barely listen.

In a high school Lit class, I was taught that there were only three stories: Man v God, Man v Man & Man v Nature.

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add transcript plz

19:00 "it should ... it should ... it should ..." is this an it should according to the frankfurts or you, and why?

At 21:00 he compares tangible engineering advancements (car and iphone) to 'art'.. When a 2016 gps objectively works better than its non-existent counterpart in the unmapped world of the 1700s, but there's no objective standard for the quality or value of art.. A musician can be objectively skilled in technique, or a piece may be objectively complex.. A painter may acheive hyper realism.. But in the subjective world of art, all that is ultimately irrelevant.

So what's stopping you from getting off the grid and live in a communal village like the Amnish? You could be a hero and dig all the water wells and sewage holes by hand.

Foucault?

Adorno is bad ass but his work can be hard af to read. Kiss the sky has translated the text into urban dialects and memes to make his work easier to read. Find it here docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/9fb38e_d6d1639a1f35488383eb80129309dcdc.pdf

I don't understand why it's wrong so do work you're not connected to? Every job in this world cannot have meaning and not everyone can afford to do a job they like. We cannot live without labour intensive work in this generation.

just put yourself in the position of a mayor and how you would handle all ur towns problems while steering towards a goal, that's all they are

I would have asked what makes Adorno's definition of art, "the definition". Also, Adorno seems to never have heard the phrase "nothing new under the sun".

The problem with their argument is that naturally every species is about work (sustaining life) and consumption (entropy).

LOL, a bunch of commis here!

This video is of very low quality in the criticism and evaluation ofAdorno and company and their contributions. When everyone of us discards these kinds videos, then we will have a chance to think logically instead. Goodby to this channel and you all.

incredible work. great job!