Episode 127 | John Kempf on Soil Redox, Energy, & Nutrient Availability [A Regenerative Future]

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Episode 127 | John Kempf on Soil Redox, Energy, & Nutrient Availability [A Regenerative Future]

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Matt Powers - Regenerative Soil & Permaculture

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Join us for an extremely stimulating conversation with author, podcast host, researcher, and regenerative farmer, John Kempf who is at the cutting edge of soil science and working on his own foliar spray book for cultivators of all kinds. This is a DO NOT MISS episode for anyone that is interested in SOIL!
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@courtneyheron1561 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible conversation with a truly generous, kind, amazingly well informed hard working gentleman John Kempf. A true gem of our time. Thanks for sharing this conversation Matt and your pursuit inti understanding soil and the inner/inter workings of our world. So very grateful for you both!🙏

@Kristianne12111992 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt! Just dropping a comment to tell you your laugh is so contagious!! Hahahaha! It's both remarkable and overwhelming to know the complexity of soil life. Thanks for the wonderful webinar!

@ThePermacultureStudent 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Vi!!

@erbauungstutztaufgnade1875 Ай бұрын

So so lovely in depth! Great. The more details the better.

@Bestdayever8 2 жыл бұрын

Finally! Thank you! Someone who sees and shows and tells so beautifully. Electricity doesn’t come from the walls - it comes from or through plants and people :) Sorry I’m just so excited about everything you say, glued yo your podcasts and I’m not even a farmer. But considering now 😄 Can you please tell me what would be the effect on the plants (in their current condition) and people with this new electrical car charger wave? Somehow I feel it isn’t all so easy peasy. Shouldn’t the plants and people be healthy first? Feels like we’re coming at it from a weird angle yet again.

@ThePermacultureStudent 2 жыл бұрын

From my perspective, it creates chaos. That's what disturbing the cycles of the earth does in general as well as in our bodies.

@stevelarson4925 4 жыл бұрын

Great episode and I love this topic. It is so fascinating to get more nuanced beyond just aerobic soils. Looking forward to setting aside some time to go through the redox webinar series. I'd love to hear you and/or John talk with Dr. Christine Jones about quorum sensing and auto-inducers within this subject matter. She is advocating for using an extract of a fermented compost, not for the organisms but for their communication molecules called auto-inducers. I haven't been able to figure out why these would be more abundant in a fermented product and possibly vermicastings opposed to an aerobic compost. A friend tried to explain the possible chemistry where the aerobic decomposition is more energy intensive than the anaerobic fermentation...but it went over my head. I've also recently come across some research from Germany that a worms gut has various anaerobic fermentation process in it and went so far as to call earthworms anoxic microsites within soil! Fascinating!

@otivaeey 3 жыл бұрын

Yes looking forward to his talk on "polycover" - polyculture of ground covers by Dr Christine Jones. I wish to know what groundcovers or weeds have reducing rhizosphere, leading to healthier crops, best that John can elucidate.

@jeremyschissler337 2 жыл бұрын

@@otivaeey he mentions them specifically here at 54;49....and explains that it's reduction performance is based on the microbial preferences of the plant as well as the plants proclivity to invest exudates into the soil along with the photosynthetic capacity and its efficiency in performing the homeostatic redox response to maintain its preferred environment ......to my knowledge all plants are reductive because photosynthesis itself is a reductive process...its just some perform better than others....this is how we can safely say that as long as you have a plant growing and the soil isn't bare you doing good kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grpyja6gu8mscYk.html

@James-ol2fr 2 жыл бұрын

Great talk! I'm thinking you and John should get together...weekly? ; ) I'm wondering if there's any theory on what is supposed to be happening naturally in the air/ atmosphere around plant leaves that would give them this benefit from foliar applications? If Dr. Reames was able to get plants to grow so much faster with sprays, how fast are plants SUPPOSED to grow? And if plants have nothing like an endocrine system, what's stopping nut and fruit trees from producing in their first year?

@Deanwithane 3 жыл бұрын

This was amazing Matt! I feel better about going on a multi day rant about foliar applications in living soil.

@colbykinney5633 3 жыл бұрын

John is a national treasure!

@courtneyheron1561 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!!! So grateful for him, his family and community. Thank you 🙏 ❤️

@vytautaskacka7907 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but I consider John as an international treasure. 🙂

@michelbisson6645 4 ай бұрын

very good, interesting video, thank you, appreciated

@TheVigilantStewards 4 жыл бұрын

Great interview, new info on foliar sprays/feeds for me. SUPER important to increase photosynthesis as we enter a solar minimum/grand solar minimum as the solar power will be reduced so we will need to find some way to continue growing food.

@stickysat 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for looking for knowledge and sharing it guys... :)

@jacklegminercanada3866 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe I haven't come across this yet.

@xxpowwowbluexx 4 жыл бұрын

Mind blown on the slightly-anaerobic idea. 🤯 So, does the Johnson-Su Bioreactor method produce these optimal conditions, or Matt, what is your method of making compost now? I just started a pile yesterday, and now I don’t know how to proceed with it. Help!

@ThePermacultureStudent 4 жыл бұрын

I like using them all :) They all do different things.

@pawelk3702 4 жыл бұрын

@@ThePermacultureStudent They all do different things??? what do you mean?

@ThePermacultureStudent 4 жыл бұрын

@@pawelk3702 Worm compost is totally different from a static mouldering pile, just as hot compost is also completely different. Vermicompost is primarily bacterial dominant BUT it's even more than that. They physically change the structure of the compost which changes its behavior - plus everything is going through their digestion which is a specific process and creates a semi-uniform product (worm castings have ranges of pH and Eh). Hot compost oxidizes everything which releases a lot of the nutrients into the air and turns the nitrogen forms into nitrates which are needed in a balanced amount - if you add too many in an oxidized, alkaline, bacterial mix, you can shock your soil and even push the pH more alkaline which is AWFUL. Lots of caveats and paths through these methods too - you can make fungal compost tea and even fungal "hot" compost though not how you'd expect I'm sure hehe - time is another factor that has come back to haunt folks in this. We can't have instant compost and have it be the best. More to come on all this with my new book Regenerative Soil Science & Solutions: www.thepermaculturestudent.com/shop/regenerative-soil-science-amp-solutions-manual-pre-order

@Horse237 3 жыл бұрын

I wrote this: Compost, Bioreactors and Koreans gsmgardening.wordpress.com/2020/09/16/compost-bioreactors-and-koreans/ And this: Climate Battery Greenhouses. gsmgardening.wordpress.com/2020/09/23/climate-battery-greenhouses/

@xxpowwowbluexx 4 жыл бұрын

This discussion is blowing me away! Photons being emitted by rocks, roots, and microbes deep in the soil?!

@GmoBuelna 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a great video, love it. And Matt I’ll waiting next july for your webbinar Best regards from Sinaloa, Mx

@mynjgarden 4 жыл бұрын

Even if you're Amish, you're electrical. Ha ha! You guys are blowing my mind. Thanks for this video.

@motorpurrr 4 жыл бұрын

Very awesome. Thank you

@johnnyb4869 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not what you don’t know that is a challenge it’s what u think you know that isn’t so

@paulbraga4460 4 жыл бұрын

wonderful!!!

@TheVigilantStewards 4 жыл бұрын

I've seen that pink granite in the soil is paramagnetic, and also adding ormus mixed into water say from Vancouver Island helps. I've also heard of electro culture but haven't found much info on it. Would be really interested in whether or not that was something you guys came across before!

@magicforce41 4 жыл бұрын

how can one help increase light in take? and when would be the best time to add foliar feeds

@fayjason 3 жыл бұрын

What dos John mean when he talks about a "reduced environment"? the environment that Blueberry like is the example @ 37:00.

@johnroydelacruz1433 3 жыл бұрын

Do calcium nitrate kill microbes? I want to add some calcium to my deficient soil

@indica_dogo868 4 жыл бұрын

Matt Powers and AEA, fucken awesome!

@EdibleplanetOrg 4 жыл бұрын

Since John mentioned the "rainbow of light and the symphony of music" I thought he'd really enjoy a book by Mae-Wan Ho called "The Rainbow and the Worm" which will bring more clarity to the biophotonic world by helping to bridge the gap between physics and biology. Peace

@stevenwicks6451 4 жыл бұрын

Im surprised this doesnt have more likes

@johnroydelacruz1433 3 жыл бұрын

"If you want to find the secret of the Universe, think in terms of energy frequency and vibration." -Nikola Tesla

@jeremyschissler337 2 жыл бұрын

"Even if you are Amish , you are electrical"---John Kempf imagine John leading the entire amish community in doing the electric slide line dance.....hehehehehe

@fayjason 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glade to hear you compare plants with humans.

@chadstallings5558 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@xxpowwowbluexx 4 жыл бұрын

Can you just spray ammonium on your plants and soil to jumpstart the good microbes and suppression of pathogenic behaviors?

@mitchrawlyk5705 3 жыл бұрын

brb gotta go put my brain back in my skull now lol

@ChristopherPisz Жыл бұрын

Does this mean that I will improve my limestone ridden clay soil by continually dumping 5 gallon buckets of pee pee on it, since my pee pee has ammonium, which is reduced?

@RefugeeOfReality 2 жыл бұрын

Saying that plants are quote on quote not Vegetarian because they feed on Microorganisms is incorrect because those microbes and Fungi are not classified as animals. 🤷‍♂️ Greetings!

@otivaeey 3 жыл бұрын

I want to see John Kempf's face!

@ThePermacultureStudent 3 жыл бұрын

Ok so there's reasons right? He's amish and collectively we'd all assumed he didn't do photos/video - in fact, folks pointed out that this video revealed his face and were upset, so I blurred it out at that time. Then the only likeness online of him was a drawing of John until he appeared on video for a talk with R-Future the conference I hosted in Jan 2021. Since then I think he's on videos more openly. He's like the Thomas Pynchon of the Regen Ag community ;) (my English majors will know what I mean...)

@otivaeey 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePermacultureStudent omg I thought real Amish aren't so knowledgeable due to little contact with technology thus education (think of you need internet to do research as such). Or maybe he was Amish, now a free man. And I thought Amish cannot use herbicide and chemical technology because those are technology! But he was in a chemical farm upbringing. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

@dalewoodhams8364 2 жыл бұрын

Even if you are Amish you are electrical 🤣 Nice one John🎶🤣⚡️

@EdibleplanetOrg 4 жыл бұрын

If plants/trees can eventually become perfectly healthy and immune to all diseases what does that mean for the consumer of those plants/fruits 😉

@stevenwicks6451 4 жыл бұрын

If an endophyte is feeding off a pathogen, but not killing it, and the pathogen is not negatively affecting the host plant, where is the pathogen drawing nutrition to stay alive and to feed the endophyte?

@nullnull2945 3 жыл бұрын

through alterations in the Trophic space through secondary metabolite production meditated by the Commensalist Symbionts interactions with Muatalistic Endophytes.

@jacklegminercanada3866 3 жыл бұрын

Is that a cartoon of yourself Matt? I love it, but you know the pros use a 5 point fork eh.

@ThePermacultureStudent 3 жыл бұрын

A high school student of mine made it for me almost 8 years ago.

@jacklegminercanada3866 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePermacultureStudent nice !

@kabbak Жыл бұрын

Amish are electrical, lol 👍🏻

@ThePermacultureStudent Жыл бұрын

I lived in MO - the Amish there would have cell phones in their neighbors name and leave at their house but use it on the job. Same with their trucks and tools. Their non-amish partners own it all. It's WILD!!

@kabbak Жыл бұрын

@@ThePermacultureStudent lol, Where my dad grew up in OH, back in the day, 50/60s, they put telephone boxes out in the yard. What's crazy now is, I'm not 'allowed' to build my house and not be connected to the electric grid, even if i wire everything up for it to be connectable 🤡