Aren't people homeschooling together yet? I don't need your text to teach my kids! We all love learning - I say why not just do it together and homeschool them the progressive way?

Very nice. I hope it's going well. I teach astronomy which has been dropped from school curriculum by Obama's education Department. It might be a nice short course. We homeschooled our children. FYI, I was a conscientious objector to the Vietnam draft. :-)

@@michaelmiller2397 Oh, the sky as a "text." Could be interesting! Are you still interested in teaching? There is a contact form at my website. :) I have such a heart for homeschoolers. GOOD JOB! Also, you can reach out at contact @ catholicsagainstmilitarism dot com if you might want to talk about your experience as a C.O. on the podcast. I don't have a ton of time these days for interviews, but I'd love to at least get your name and contact info! God bless.

@@michaelmiller2397 Oh jeez.. I've heard people are not happy with the Democrats like him. I'll bet you're a great teacher then for your children. I'm a bit younger myself; but happy to hear that people took the draft away for teaching the kids better than to support the military. It's just not fair to them. Best, R

It's two years since you posted. I hope you are still doing well. It's a very rough world these days. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗💘💘💘💘💘💘

There are no statutes of limitation on murder, the most serious crime. Calling murder accidental suicide is a great injustice. They need to reopen the investigation. The book is full of religious people who are living in a fantasy form of religion. The positive whitewashes of life are a denial of reality.

thank you for taking care of us... יוי

I am not. there are bodies all over the planet in the wake of Catholicism most never recorded

According to Fr. John Hardon, he was killed by the devil, but he never gave any details. He just hint about it in his lectures.

Yes, it’s hard to accept the simple truth rather than look for demons, because we don’t want to believe that a good person can just die due to a sudden body failure (which happened a lot more often back then), or due to an accident. In this case, the simplest explanation is the most likely: that Fr. Merton died as the result of cardiac failure. There was no “crime scene,” therefore no investigation. Let the man rest.

@@Historian212 well you are right to a certain point, but I do know that Fr. John Hardon was an extremely knowledgeable man, with 37 years of formal education, with many degrees in theology, psychology, spirituality, demonology, sociology and so on. He was a very spiritual and rational person at same time. He was also a very holy and honest teacher, was trusted by everyone. He did not tolerate fools, had access to all of what was going on behind the scenes, in the political world as within the structures of the Catholic Church, he knew Merton personally, and that is why I truly believe in him, not irrationally, but because I know he knew. As a discreet person he never went into any details. But yes, may Fr Merton rest in peace.

It might not. See above.

what information are you referencing regarding his supposed doubt over his vocation and potentially breaking celibacy??

m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rd2GaqRpq9SmgGw.html Thomas Merton documentary

I'm going to in 2024! Top of the list...

This is such great news !!!!! @@catholicsagainstmilitarism

I found this a most intriguing interview. I especially enjoyed Ellen's ability to pull out the details❤❤❤

I agree. Good thing that Turley could work around the interruptions without losing his train of thought.

According to Fr John Hardon he was killed by the devil. But he never elaborate about it.

Begs the question. I question whether or not that Merton proclaimed the gospel. He was more of a syncretist for Buddhism.

Most countries use 220 volts because it is a more efficient household current. 220 is not considered high-voltage but it can give you a good shock. Vacuum cleaners, toasters, fans, lamps, and other appliances are not lethal in other countries with 220 current. The 110 volts used in the USA is less efficient, but Americans have a long history of wasting energy with gas-guzzling cars.

@@hughturley1062 - Great interview. It was deeply moving to learn about Merton's story. I've been to Thailand 3 times in the past three years and am fascinated by its people. There was a similar coverup in David Carradine's death in Bangkok where he was allegedly asphyxiated by hanging - which was the cover-up because the autopsy photos clearly reveal massive head trauma and bleeding. It was not a suicide and it was no accident. It affected me because I went to acting class with his daughter Kansas. So sad. We need more people like you and the host of the show to reveal the truth because our government clearly kills its people for profit. Remember Building Seven... Take care sir.

Bearable Pain Weird, I’m not a Catholic but I’m really fascinated by the Forrestal case which led to Thomas Merton. I will be buying the book. The Forrestal books are on Amazon’s Kindle that’s where I got mine copies

A few days before he died he stated that communism was just like his religious community, just like what Jesus taught. I saw a video of him speaking this. A few days later he's dead.

@@Jamesnebula Poor man that he died suddenly still believing that, when cursory research tells us Karl Marx loathed Catholicism. Idealists are always restlessly searching for Heaven on Earth - on every continent. Instead of in a relationship with God, instantly. A cautionary tale, and why l refuse to idealise him, (of course being idealised is a trial anyway) but learn from his false turns, as l know about those first hand, naturally, learn from lives of saints and sinners is prudent, as we are both at turn.

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He wasnt "a manifestation of The Christ" it is a shame that you admire Merton and yet don't know that that kind of cultural appropriation of the central figure from creed you neither endorse or understand is Blasphemous! From the Catholic POV Karma and Reincarnation are heretical and part of the gnostic inversion. "No man can have 2 masters" is not a verse we can ever just step over. He had zero interest in the trappings of Buddhism but was somewhat naively exploring "techniques," that were "no longer used in the West", allegedly. Multiculturalism was the buzzword, Cultural Appropriation the antithesis, was in the future back then. Quote: He dialogued with a Zen Master after the completion of his The Wisdom of the Desert. Merton sent a copy to Suzuki with the hope that he would comment on Merton's view that the Desert Fathers and the early Zen masters had similar experiences. Nearly ten years later, when Zen and the Birds of Appetite was published, Merton wrote in his postface that "any attempt to handle Zen in theological language is bound to miss the point" calling his final statements "an example of how not to approach Zen." Merton struggled to reconcile the Western and Christian impulse to catalog and put into words every experience with the ideas of "Christian" apophatic theology and the inexplicable nature of the Zen experience. N.B. In keeping with his idea that non-Christian faiths had much to offer Christianity in experience and perspective and little or nothing in terms of doctrine, Merton distinguished between Zen Buddhism, an expression of history and culture, and "his Zen" What "Merton meant by Zen Buddhism" was taken from the the Chan version only that began in China and spread to Japan and became Zen, as well as the rituals and institutions that accompanied it" unquote. Endless Research as a form of procrastination may have made him vulnerable to forgetting his vows? Practice is Our Amor of God. Practice. His constant restlessness and dissatisfaction led to his dying "a long way from home" on many levels, and that is very poignant. A lifetime of searching, and yet, God was solidly behind him all the time.

Not leaders but leaders’ opponents

Pope John Paul 1 does indeed come to mind.

The monks who first entered the room unlocked the door latch from the outside. There was no key needed. The door could be latched and unlatched from the outside.

Can you further explain this statement: "It would have had a HUGE impact on US Catholics, in a negative way."

Great quote! Do you have a reference/citation? I'd love to use this.

@@catholicsagainstmilitarism It's attributed to Merton's "Letter to Ernesto Cardenal."

"What I require of you is mercy, not sacrifice". Thanks for sharing.

Not everyone is a fan of Rohr

His writings up to 1958 are steadfastly Catholic. After that, he goes off on an Eastern tangent from which he never returned.

1968-1941= 27 years. But yeah, it was the same day of the year in both instances.

I take a stab at an answer in the article, "Seth Rich Equals Vince Foster?" at dcdave.com/article5/170525.htm. Here's a quote from the article: "In Rich’s case, by contrast [with Foster], you can start with the motive, which almost screams out at you. He is strongly suspected of being the source of the leaks of the DNC emails to Wikileaks that supposedly did so much damage to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Wikileaks has even published an email from campaign manager John Podesta that says, 'I’m definitely for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real basis for it.' That might explain why nothing was taken from Rich in the 'botched robbery.' If you make the murder look too much like it was simply the byproduct of a garden-variety street crime, the intended message would not be sent. That might explain as well why no money was taken from the Starbucks cash registers in the Caity Mahoney killing."

I think you might be misinterpreting. Hugh actually published a quote from Fr. McCarthy on the back of his second book.

Going to try to interview him about the new book soon!

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Well, sugar is a killer so I wouldn't put it past them. That's kind of "their thing." ;)

Muslims worship the One True God, but not in the manner that He wishes and that He has revealed. Afghanistan - regarding the US invasion, unjust. Regarding the country, nothing specific I suppose.

@@johnwachowicz1966 Catholics actually believe Muslims are good people but the Muslim faith is false. We believe it’s origins are from a demonic source.

@@johnwachowicz1966 That must be post Vatican ll modernist rapprochement. because denying and insulting the Trinity and Christ's Sacrifice logically make it a different west arabian god and Jibril NOT Gabriel, (The Jibril that terrified his listener and drove him to near suicide) Europe was invaded by Muslims 400 times even before the Crusades and the Barbary slave trade, unlike the US, jihad has always been very "real" for us. The Afghani people have been utterly betrayed, decade after decade imo, but there is no Vatican "line," just vacillating and "words" that's my exasperated opinion, mine alone.

That is a very good question. People make a big mistake when they think that men and women who have chosen a cloistered life of prayer are not vulnerable to the same sins that plague all of mankind. Why do any of us sin? Sometimes it is for nothing more than the approval of others.

Patrick Hart did not have the authority to independently cover-up the murder. If you know that Patrick served and was loyal to Merton's nemesis, Abbot James Fox that may be a clue.

What is your support for this idea that he "veered from the faith"? Do you have any of his writings, specifically, to support that (primary sources)? If so, I would be interested in hearing about it / reading it.

You are free to do their research. His early writings are very orthodox, but his later ones are full of modernism. Very disappointing. Many start well but end badly. It appears it happened to Fr. Louis (Merton)

I don't think it's right to say that someone veered from the faith unless you have something to back it up.

His writings back it up. He basically went from Catholic to modernist. Once someone becomes heretical, they are no longer members of the Church. It's very sad, but obvious in his writings. You will have to do your own research. I tried to collect all his works, but lost everything a few years ago. Therefore, I cannot easily pull things off a shelf to quote for you. The Church has doctrinal standards, and once someone leaves the safe ground of Faith, their writings may have only a whiff of heresy, or a stench, as it is commonly described. I will not give an opinion on where Fr. Merton's later ones fell on the spectrum. I will just say that I was disappointed by it, as are many other Catholics.

Again, I don't think it's right to call someone a heretic unless you can produce something to back it up. Just saying "lots of people agree with me" is, I'm afraid, not sufficient.

That all may be true, but whether he was a saint has no bearing on whether he should have been murdered.

The book is very well researched. Lots of facts. If you have not read it, you are the one talking about that which you do not know.

Elizabeth, you sound like a CIA liar

You reference a newspaper article as the source of your scholarship? Really? You are not entitled to an opinion.

What a butt thou art, O Peter!!! smh

A good start would be to cancel your National Inquirer subscription and actually read scholarly works that are based on actual research and objective inquiry, and not depend on gossip and hearsay.

Where does it say Jesus was celibate? Oh he may have had sexual relations ooooohhh well "who cares if he was murdered" and let's disregard all he had to share!!!! Google close minded bigots you may find your name