In the final chapter of our conversation with Rosie from Gloriavale, we delve into the reconciling of her faith outside of the abusive cult. Rosie details her intense emotional struggles, including daily panic attacks, and the liberating feeling of finally being free, a year after leaving Gloriavale. Rosie and Christa discuss the problematic teachings of Gloriavale, such as the stigmatization of grace and liberty, the unrealistic expectation of sinlessness, and the controversial belief that having fewer children is equivalent to killing future children.
The episode concludes with a message from Rosie to the New Zealand Christian community, a call to prayer and a look into how Rosie is currently living her faith outside of Sunday.
0:00 - Previously
1:03 - Intro
1:20 - What was it like after leaving Gloriavale, in terms of your faith? -
3:40 - Daily panic attacks
5:41 - Finally free, a year after leaving the cult
6:20 - Grace and Liberty looked down on in Gloriavale
7:10 - "I'm a Christian now"
8:54 - Getting angry at God
10:00 - Questioning everything
13:40 - If you only have 2 children you are killing future children
15:00 - God answered Rosie's prayer to not be deceived
15:41 - How does what is happening in Gloriavale reconcile with true Christianity?
16:30 - Did you recognise the leaders as false teachers?
20:54 - Leader went to prison for s*xual abuse
24:54 - Is the church of Acts attainable or are there lessons we can learn from Gloriavale?
29:45 - Cult leader thought he could be completely sinless and create a community without sin
32:28 - Has there been a response from the Christian community?
33:40 - Response from current Gloriavale leader to Escaping Utopia Documentary
35:02 - Message for the New Zealand Christian community
38:18 - Why did you decide to come on the Outside of Sunday podcast?
38:58 - How are you living your faith outside of Sunday?