hey man, how are the closed back ones? looking to get some soon

@@norseGFX I've been using them for about 3 weeks now and I love them. Very comfy even wearing glasses. The clamping force is enough to keep the headset in place but doesn't squeeze my head. My ears don't touch anything on the inside. The audio quality is amazing for everything. I play BF2042, Counterstrike, MW2 and WoW and they sound terrific for anything. Music and movies sound great. The mic quality is clear and loud. My only complaint is when the cable rubs on your shirt you can hear it on the left earcup. Other than that, I think it's the perfect wired headset. There is a noticeable difference in how the closed back ones sound versus open back. I VERY much prefer the closed back style. Mids and highs sound perfect and the bass is just...perfect imo. I'm no audiophile but the audio quality is superb. I've watched movies, shows, and listened to music and I'm impressed with this headset.

Glad it was helpful!

@@goukigod I've just heard someone say that when playing online, people in the chat could hear themselves because the sound was escaping the headphones too much. Has that ever been an issue for you?

@@MTheKing09 It hasn't happened to me but I guess in theory it's possible if you had them up loud enough. You'd have to have them up really loud though.

@@MTheKing09 That's only an issue if you have the volume up to hearing damage levels. There is no reason to have the volume that loud unless you're hearing is already impaired.

@@jjswigger8591 If you say so

Glad it was helpful!

Ditto, I was seconds away from rage-quitting 😂

Have fun!

How is it so far ?

@@THELEMONLUKE its nice, the soundstage is very wide so im hearing footsteps well, and honestly im really happy with it

and how's it ?(10 months after...)

he's prob dead, the baguette died@@lotonehl7410

thanks!

I'm hoping to review the EPOS range of sound cards at some point so I'd love to hear what you think of it.

@@goukigod got em yesterday headphones are a clear upgrade from my 373d but i would lie if i said im impressed with the GSX300: The app is fine and all and the 7.1 is pretty good but i dont understand how nobody has said in their reviews that they dont have 2 audio inputs (main audio/communications audio) even my almost 5 year old 373d with a little tiny bit usb dongle have that.... also i almost forgot they advertise on tech around that its 24bit96khz but they are not (dont care about taht much anyway) it feels like sennheiser is butchering their gsx 300 so its not competitive to their 1000/1200 lineup. i guess for 40 bucks i paid for the sound card its pretty good for the Microphone options in the app. (prob the best microphone quality for gaming.)

@@ppsarrakis Thanks for letting me know.

I ask cause I currently have the cloud alpha and need to upgrade due to damage + wear and tear

I haven't tried the hyperx cloud alpha I'm sorry

It's mostly just marketing. People in studios would most likely be using monitor headphones and monitor headphones are good for monitoring audio and not much else. In other words, you wouldn't want a monitoring style headset because the sound they produce would be very flat and clinical. Monitor headphones have a wide frequency response range and most mid to high end headset have this too, so maybe that's why they use the studio label. So to answer your question, 'Studio grade' is really just a term used to imply it's high quality and I wouldn't pay much attention to it.

@@goukigod Good point, thanks for the response

​​​@@goukigodbeing a professional studio engineer for 25 years I agree about the "studio quality" bit in marketing audio products. It's not the same as products that are actually for studio monitoring. As you said correctly actual studio products are attempting to be flat in frequency response and give a huge amount of detail. End listeners often don't enjoy hearing all this while listening to music and what's usually marketed to them is far from flat eq responses with hyped highs and lows. In gaming headsets we don't want all those distracting lows, but still most probably have hyped highs and the same scooped mids ppl are used to on consumer stuff or at least what their eq presets are often doing. I do my gaming on actual studio monitor headphones. Not even my Sennheiser 280HDs (a huge studio standard) but $30 AKG k52s I've had for 20 years. They sound every bit as good as I need them to for gaming FPS. I like the detail, I like the lack of hyping a freq range. They only just don't have a mic. That's why I'm here. Also I looked at the mic mod mini doo dad but not for me. I just wanna grab one piece and not think of a little sticker stopping working and ruin my time. I'm curious how these compare to the Drop Epos 38x. Those actually seem to be modded hd280hd. Btw I never use those to game, I prefer open back. Technically the k52s are classified as closed back, however they're anything but that with air moving freely throughout.

@@housebandthexenos2569 Thanks for the detailed response. I haven't tried the Drop PCX38 but based on what everyone else has said about them, they're the bees knees!

Hi! I'm choosing between them now, Raiser Blackshark sounds much worse?

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Headsets are really just a convenient way of rolling a bunch of useful features together into a single solution. If you have no need for a mic and you don't need wireless then I don't think you need a headset. If sound quality is your ultimate goal/only requirement then headphones like the HD 560s will give you better bang for buck. The HD 560s, for example, sound better than the PC38X for about the same money. For the average gamer though I don't think they could tell the difference between the H6Pro, PC83X and HD 560s, so the H6Pro would be my pick simply because it's the cheapest. If you want superior sound, that is obvious to most people, you're looking at spending about double what the HD 560s cost. You'll probably want to invest in a decent DAC/AMP too, so going down the headphone path becomes a slippery slope, which is why headsets are such an attractive option.

@@goukigod If I buy the HD560S, will I need a DAC to get the audio quality normally seen in graphs? The closest thing to a DAC that I have is my motherboard's onboard audio (ALC1200).

I’m not an expert with measurements but I don’t believe you need an external DAC. Your PC’s sound card should be fine. If you were to use the 560s on a PlayStation though, a DAC would provide better sound than plugging them into the controller.

You have to assume all gaming headsets are stereo unless they specifically state that they have surround sound. The H6PRO is stereo. They can be used with things like Dolby Atmos and Sony's 3D audio but they don't have surround sound built into them.

Thanks. Um, sure!

@@goukigod Hi again! I got the headset, and I'm trying to test the mic. You mentioned that you can hear your own voice. How do you do it? Which cable do you use? I tried both, but I can't make it work yet. I'd appreciate it if you can help me. Thank you so much!

@@chiggschill You should be able to hear your own voice simply because of the open back design (provided you got the open back and not the closed one). ie outside sound will pass through the headset that you can hear. There isn't a monitoring or side tone feature, so there's nothing to setup.

@@goukigod I want to hear my voice through the headphone speaker as I speak, my electronic voice. Is that possible? If so, how? Many thanks 😊🙏🏻❤

this is not possible without 3rd party software on a PC/Mac

Thanks for the sub! Someone posted a quick overview of the soundcard below.

@@goukigod thanks a lot

I haven't used that model sorry. I've heard the PCX38 though and they are incredible. I don't think these sound as good as those but they are quite a bit cheaper.

@@goukigod so you would say the pc38x are better then the h60 pro openback

@@chronicmayhem yes

If you're not worried about background noise, open back is thew way to go. There's a reason all the best headphones are open back, they provide a superior soundstage. For competitive games, where positional audio is critical, after imaging I think soundstage is the next most important.

@@goukigod I've seen some reviews on Reddit on the Open Backs that got me worried, more than once saying that the sound sounds "muddy", is it not the case?

That has not been my experience. I think some people might be disappointed about how neutral they sound but muddy isn't a word I'd use to describe them

@@goukigod Great, thanks for your input!

@@VamosFalardeAirsoft al final cual compraste abierto o cerrado que tal tu experiencia?

07:08

@@goukigod Sorry bro, i don't undestand english very vell.

@@JupetPhoenix Both are a good option to pair with the PS5. The H3PRO hybrid is the one to get if you want wireless and noise cancelling. H6PRO is the one to get if you want the best possible sound and have a quite place to use them in.

if you have a nice quite space to use them in, and you don't need to worry about disturbing others, open back every time!

It doesn't have a chat mix dial. This has to be managed on your platform of choice.

So, as I mentioned in the video, I recorded the mic via the PS5 controller which most likely adds compression. If you were to plug it into a PC or Amp it does sound better but at the time this was the only way I could record audio from it. I think a lot of people will end up using this way so I figured it was a good representation even if it doesn’t sound as good as it can.

The PC38X is widely regarded as the best sounding gaming headset on the market. It's open back too.

To a degree yes. Much more than closed back.

You could try turning down the mic volume in the PS5 settings

@@goukigod I did that but I can’t hear them but they still hear the echoes of their voices

Turning the microphone volume down shouldn’t affect what you can hear.

Your ps5 controller mic might not have been turned off

sure is

I too would recommend this

The price difference though, the PC38x is out side of mine and most budget

Is there a closed back equivalent of the PC38x?

I'm using wicked cushions on mine and although I like the stock pads, the WC are an improvement.

That's essentially what the H3PRO is except that it only comes in closed back design.

@@goukigod yea. That’s the problem!

I'm guessing english isn't your first language then?

@@goukigod it certainly is. No need for dramatics

Agreed

Are you asking or telling? I haven’t tried any of the Beyerdynamic headsets yet, but I’m dying to.

You don't turn it on. It doesn't have power. You just plug it in.

@@goukigod The headsets already work, apparently it was a problem with the sound drivers. Thanks for answering my question. Greetings!

i had to go onto their website and at the very bottom of the page they mention this in parenthasis. i might be returning these and they haven't even shown up on my doorstep yet. headset+AMP makes these WAYYYY too expensive. i want 7.1 out of the box like with my current headset (Razer Tiamat 7.1 V2)

Unless a headset says it has 7.1 or surround sound without companion software it's safe to assume it's only stereo. Most headsets are stereo.

@@goukigod i appreciate the reply. i was a little upset about it so i did some research and it seems stereo with virtual surround can be more accurate than a true 7.1 headset. really just depends on the headset and equalizers which have free software online for that.

Yeah it really depends but cramming loads of drivers into a headset doesn't always have the best results. Sony's 3D audio and Dobly atmos are really incredible software solutions. If you're on PC you have quite a lot of software choice including some free options. On console headsets with 7.1 built in are generally the more expensive options. eg Astro A50 and Arctis nova pro

@@goukigod yeah I'm on pc. I'll keep Dolby Atmos in mind, I've heard excellent things about it. thank you for the advice. and i'd love Arctis nova pros, SteelSeries ear cups are awesome. but I have the H6PROs on the way should be here tomorrow :)

Fue la versión abierta o cerrada?

@@tefomvp8653 abierta

5:14

@@goukigod Yep - you do mention about the compression the PS5 might bring. It is amazing how badly the PS5 makes the microphone sound. Good review though, thanks!

Well he used a PS4 to record the audio for...reasons.

This is the whole point of open back headset buddy. But you keep playing with your $20 turtle beach junk.