Epyx 1984 Preview Disk -or- What Is A Chromadisk?

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The Epyx 1984 Preview Disk is one of the most interesting disks in my Commodore 64 collection. Not only is it a very early example of a video game company releasing playable, cut-down, or time-limited preview versions of its games, which later became an industry standard, but it's also a rare example of a Chromadisk, a unique manufacturing process that allowed full-colour printing directly on a disk jacket. This process, developed by a San Jose, California company called Memron, allowed each disk to potentially be a work of art, rather than just another black disk with a label stuck to it. In this video we'll uncover the story of Memron, and then look at the preview game demos on this particular Chromadisk, which include Epyx's smash 1984 hits Impossible Mission and Summer Games, along with some other lesser-known games. Finally, we break out the Super Snapshot machine language monitor and attempt to disable the 90 second playable time-limit on Break Dance.
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Index:
0:00 Why this diskette is interesting
1:58 What is a Memron Chromadisk?
5:27 A few Chromadisk examples: Memo, Imagineering, MusiCalc
9:11 Memron Australia, costs, patents?
12:18 Epyx 1984 Preview Disk Instructions, Rebate
13:57 1. Break Dance
17:24 2. Impossible Mission
20:14 3. Puzzle Panic
23:10 4. Silicon Warrior
25:14 5. Summer Games
27:27 6. World's Greatest Baseball Game
35:06 Removing Break Dance's 90 second limit
39:21 Break Dancing Without Limits
41:45 Conclusion and Thanks

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@JustinEmlay 2 жыл бұрын

I remember being blown away when something as HUGE as a CDROM was included with magazines. Filled with demos but once in a while, full games.

@tiger1x 2 жыл бұрын

Instead of watching a prime time movie I am spending my sunday evening watching a video about a demo disk from the 80s... And guess what! I do not regret that! :-) Thanks Robin for covering such topics. Who else would do that? And I think it's much more interesting than the current crap on tictoc & co. But hey, maybe because I am from the last century? ;-)

@the1marauder2 Жыл бұрын

You too eh? lol More interesting!

@mikegarland4500 Жыл бұрын

That's what I told Robin when I signed up: You have given me more entertainment in 2 months (that I've been watching his videos) than Netflix, Prime, and Paramount+ have, combined!

@koneill123 2 жыл бұрын

The marketing worked on me. I had ordered one of these because it looked cool. I went to Toys-R-Us and bought Impossible Mission the day after I tried it.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Did you get your $3 back? :)

@koneill123 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit No I did not. Even more sadly I would have sent it to you if I hadn't sold it for a couple of bucks on Yahoo Auctions in the late 90's.

@c128stuff 2 жыл бұрын

Its amazing how you manage to fill 44 minutes with interesting details on a floppy disk, thanks again for your nice and interesting videos.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

I really never thought the video would end up being that long! I actually recorded nearly 30 minutes just for the chromadisk section but cut it down a lot :)

@rotordave81 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit you should have left it in Verbatim. I'll get my coat.

@visnjamusa9395 10 ай бұрын

Increase YT playback speed of this video to 1.25x faster (right arrow key). You'd shorten it to about 30 minutes and still see and hear - everything.

@c128stuff 10 ай бұрын

@@visnjamusa9395 Sure, but that misses the point. First it was not a complaint, I do not mind it taking 44 minutes, and I totally know how to use the 'speedup' feature of youtube. My comment is about the amount of interesting (in my opinion) content he created based on this mundane subject.

@visnjamusa9395 10 ай бұрын

@@c128stuff My comment wasn't specifically addressed to you, but to the author and everyone who (like me) thinks the video could be made shorter just by faster speech or shown with less details.

@vwestlife 2 жыл бұрын

In the late '80s and early '90s, General Motors gave out Buick Dimensions diskettes to advertise their Buick cars, and the 5.25" PC version had a full-color printed jacket, although it doesn't mention anything about it being an official Chromadisk. uxwbill has demos of the PC and Mac versions of Buick Dimensions on his channel.

@equake80 2 жыл бұрын

I got one of those Buick disks here in Brazil! Buick didn´t even sell anything here. Have no idea where I got this disk from... Will try to find it some day.

@LeftoverBeefcake 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you can find more Chromadisks, so we can have a sequel to this episode called Chromadisk 2: Electric Boogaloo.

@G.B... 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know "chromadisks" were a thing... The best we could have was colored disks, and even that was a novelty. Now that you hacked the timer limit, you can just add a fancy tracker intro, perhaps the procedurally-generated snowflake sprites with some music, and you are set to join the pirate community of the 80s. 😆

@awilliams1701 2 жыл бұрын

I've never seen or even heard of one of those chromadisks. It does look really cool.

@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, never heard of this before. They are quite attractive. The only thing I remember from the '80s and '90s is colored jackets for 5.25" disks. For 3.5" it was much more common and thus not a big deal.

@tYNS 2 жыл бұрын

Johnny C! No Agenda! John always tried to be optimistic. There was a time he thought MorphOS was going to be the next best thing. Great Video. These looked awesome!

@harpmudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this! I have this disk in my collection and glad I kept it for all these years. Such a cool part of my childhood.

@Lion_McLionhead 2 жыл бұрын

It was magical to a 12 year old that they could fit the full graphics & sound for multiple games on a single disk.

@DanRamosDR 2 жыл бұрын

The Chromadisk printing is pretty slick for 1984. Let me guess: As someone that worked in printing I'm guessing it's got to be as simple as a white polyvinyl chloride jacket (where most floppy jackets were made from black polyvinyl chloride) that gets screen printed (a lot of it a solid dark black but the white jacket makes the colors bright and white come out white) and then a gloss cover protection after printing (like Krylon) before it's all folded together with the anti-static fabric inside to protect the disk and welded on those lighter colored lines around the disk to surround the mylar metal floppy disc inside? Taking a total guess here: I suspect that the process couldn't be patented because it's mostly the same process as all other floppy disks except that there's a step that involves simply printing onto that white PVC jacket? If I'm right, it's probably not a new patent-able invention to use two existing methods one step after the other. Would be interesting to know for sure how it was made!

@gmirwin 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds plausible to me as to why they didn't have a patent.

@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын

They're impressive in person. I scored two disks and I'm blown away by the quality of the colors and the texture. It's hard to describe and photos don't do them justice.

@merman1974 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing such an interesting piece of history. The Chromadisk itself is fascinating, seeing those previews of the games was fun - and then hacking to get round the time limit was enjoyable. It's funny, because the tape version of Breakdance released in Europe was cut down too - you had to load the games separately.

@jmp01a24 2 жыл бұрын

I have a few of them myself. Looks really good and as new 30 years later.

@MurderMostFowl 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Tron callback, Robin. It made me smile.

@SL-sz9mj 2 жыл бұрын

I want to thank you for all your videos. Each one full of great info and takes me back in time (and also what I did not even knew then hence I learn from you ;)) bless you and kudos

@JoeyRivers 2 жыл бұрын

I think Epyx produced some of the most technically advanced games on the 64 in 84-85., The animation and super fast disc loading in Summer Games, the speech in Impossible Mission and im pretty sure GI Joe was one of the first disc games where decent music was playing as the game loaded from boot.

@FITPowered 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! This kind of video is my favorite. Discovering old and forgotten piece of software.

@axemanracing6222 2 жыл бұрын

I remember Verbatim coming up with coloured jackets, though it only was one colour per diskette. The white ones were very much desired. You needed Verbatim disks at some time to copy games using all 40 tracks because their cut-out for the magnetic head was a bit larger. And Verbatim came up with coloured 3.5 disks later on. For me it sounds like Verbatim bought Memron's bankrupt's assets.

@72dodge340 2 жыл бұрын

But weren't Verbatim's just molded in a different color? The Memron process was to print onto the disk material. I think these are 2 different things.

@csbruce 2 жыл бұрын

What color is vinyl naturally? Transparent?

@axemanracing6222 2 жыл бұрын

@@72dodge340 They used white jackets to print on it. And then Verbatim came up with white diskette jackets. I just wondered if there could be a coincidence.

@CptJistuce 2 жыл бұрын

@@csbruce It seems like white is the "natural" color of vinyl(also known as PVC).

@MakeLifeExtraordinary 2 жыл бұрын

Oh dude, that thing brought back so many memories. Impossible mission, breakdance, the worlds greatest baseball game and summer games… That was such a good summer for me. Summer games I think was my favorite out of all of them. Thank you for this video. I forgot about those preview discs.

@blikketty77 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible Mission and Summer Games are classics, as was Pitstop II. Great video!

@MurderMostFowl 2 жыл бұрын

I do remember colored 5.25” discs in the late 80’s, but never saw any printed ones. I remember asking my mom if I could have some colored ones but she said they cost too much extra to bother. I ended up putting stickers on some of my disks for fun but I was worried they might come off in my 1541 so I eventually peeled them off.

@silkwesir1444 2 жыл бұрын

oh, you just reminded me of some occasions when I got disks stuck in the drive (even 3.5" disks!) because of a label which was partly coming off... nothing you couldn't fix with a pair of tweezers though, but still a hassle.

@woroalspin 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible!!! Thanks and see you again.

@mshine5 2 жыл бұрын

The end credit animation is great!

@merykjenkins3274 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, the sheets of cardboard on the school quad, the boom box and the obligatory track suit. This game might just have been its crowning glory! Thanks Robin!

@SteveGuidi 2 жыл бұрын

When the breakdancing fad hit my neighbourhood, we would often scavenge large cardboard boxes (for appliances) and cut them up. Of course, people didn't buy refrigerators and such regularly so only two or three kids had the cardboard sheet over the summer!

@threebombs8508 2 жыл бұрын

I remember this, my neighbor had this and we played the Puzzle Panic preview and loved it. Sadly we never got to play the full version.

@darthbukowski6894 2 жыл бұрын

Finally found a C64 bread bin and 1541 in my area. The fuse was blown on the 9v line so I bought some 1amp fuses just to see if it boots to the ready prompt and bingo it does. I ordered a new power supply from Ray Carlsen. I’m going to order some 1.5 amp fuses because I don’t trust the 1 amp for long term use. Sorry for the long comment, I’m just excited.

@ZagnutBar Жыл бұрын

Wow Robin, where do you dig up these stories? My father sold color 5.25" floppy diskettes at all the big computer shows in the northeast US (company name was Leisure Time Computerware) when buying them in any color other than black was a wild curiosity. But I had never heard of, nor seen until now, a black diskette with color chromaprinting on the disk. Really an amazing quirk of early personal computing history. So glad you published this.

@Lachlant1984 Жыл бұрын

I remember demo CDs for the PC and the PlayStation. I love the button click sounds of your joystick, it sounds like your joystick uses contacts and not microswitches.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, funny that they worried about _stores_ doing the piracy. Even without "20/20 vision," it should've been obvious that the end users would be more of the culprits.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Since it was part of Memron's sales pitch, they'd of course just focus on the aspect of piracy that their product could possibly counteract.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit: Yeah, but then... my point was that it just seems like a funny, weak pitch.

@CptJistuce 2 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that computer stores of the era were a lot more "wild west"(in part because most were independent instead of arms of a large chain), and the store owner "getting into the publishing business" was not unheard of.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 2 жыл бұрын

@@CptJistuce: Haha, interesting. But as a kid I surely saw and did a lot of piracy (even which my righteous parents didn't see as a big deal), and when I got to go into stores where software was then and as I grew up, I didn't detect any.

@LonSeidman 2 жыл бұрын

This would have been an epic demo disk back in 1984 !

@jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343 2 жыл бұрын

Breakdance seems like an early version of Dance Dance Revolution. Great tip on SHIFT + RUN/STOP! How did I not know that.

@damouze 2 жыл бұрын

I have many hours spent on Epyx Summer Games II and Winter Games (albeit the PC-booter versions), as well as California Games and it got me into a bit of hacking of my own, because I got curious as to how starting the games without DOS worked. Fond memories of twelve / thirteen year old me looking at hex dumps of the disks in PC-Tools. So, thank you for bringing those fond memories back, even if it wasn't properly 8-bit ;-).

@GeoffSeeley 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting stuff! Never played Breakdance but it's basically the old Simon electronic game that was good for memory training. I should grab a copy and bust a move, err, brain cell. Thanks Robin!

@WhatIsKevinUpTo 2 жыл бұрын

This takes me back. The the disk with Dong on it, made me giggle just as it did when I first saw it. :D

@AndreaArturoGiuseppeGrossi 2 жыл бұрын

There is something that always fascinatead me: a whole videogame of that glorious era is way smaller than a texture of a modern videogame. I know it's trivial but mind boggling still...

@gingerhippygaming7962 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that's amazing great video mate I loved amiga cover discs

@HelloKittyFanMan. 2 жыл бұрын

"Hmm, the most interesting thing to me about this is that I've never seen one with that advanced labeling directly on the disk _jacket_ (not the disk; that's the magnetic surface) before, or a clear sleeve for 5 1/4". Oops, too bad they put Summer Games in the spot where the index hole is.

@aresaurelian 2 жыл бұрын

Lovely memories. Thank you.

@sammy61187 2 жыл бұрын

Only you can make a 44 minute video on a single floppy disc be completely entertaining and fun at the same time thank you

@Akira625 Жыл бұрын

I’m only just learning about ChromaDisk now, and if I saw commercial software on floppies that were fully printed as a kid, I would have been impressed.

@JeanB-br9nw 2 жыл бұрын

I had Silicon Warrior on an cartridge, together with a Chess game and International Soccer. It came with the C64 itself. Fond memories...

@AzzureSky 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same cartridge!

@nickfifteen 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Silicon Warrior, I'm still trying to figure out one of the House references. Specifically: * House of Apple = Apple Computers * House of Adam = Coleco * House of Pong = Atari ... But the House of Peanut was a complete mystery until Robin explained it at 25:45. How weird, and I agree: I'm glad that nickname didn't stick.

@davidinark 2 жыл бұрын

Hahah man I played so much Breakdance back in the day! That music brought back so many memories. Haha, well, I even was part of a breakdance “gang” back then. Luckily, we didn’t have to worry about our antics ending up on social media! Hahaha!

@thabudmaster Жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved Pitstop II when it came out, spent many hours racing & changing tires!

@rkornilo 2 жыл бұрын

WOW, break dancing. I completely forgot about that one. I recognize the music as the same engine they used in Skate or Die, among others. And those chroma disks - VERY rare. Can't remember the last time I saw one of those. They look awesome, though.

@InfiniteLoop 2 жыл бұрын

Also the breakdance dudes at the end are cool

@kneel1 2 жыл бұрын

i LOVED playing winter games and summer games on my neighbors c64 as a kid (we had a ti 994/a) but man i would have LOVED breakdancing i never knew that existed back then

@djafk Жыл бұрын

I miss the rack of 3.5" floppies of shareware for $5 at the local Rx-store back in the 90s. I have a whole stack of pc gamer with cd's included from back then. All those demos and free games were how we lived in the stone-age. If I am not mistaken, Warcraft 2 was on one of those and it got me hooked!

@ThomasTalbotMD Жыл бұрын

Creative Computing was such a wonderful magazine. As a 12-14 year old, I bought one at the newsstand every month. It was the best of many good magazines of the time - Antic!, Compute!, Analog, and many others. (Obvious Atari perspective here)

@bathmallow 2 жыл бұрын

That was a bit of fun. Some games I never seen before on C64. Remember Summer games was a Joystick killer 😀🕹

@kke Жыл бұрын

Nothing compared to Daley Thompson's Decathlon :) The 1500 meters was brutal. My friend got a huge blister on his palm playing it with the same type of joystick seen in this video.

@jussikuusela7345 2 жыл бұрын

23:56 This game was apparently published a "Silicon Cyborgs" on a cartirdge that was sold with a new batch of breadbins in Finland in the early 90's. It was a campaign by an electronics shop chain "Musta pörssi" (black stock market). There was also a soccer game and Colossus Chess on the cartridge.

@pdubdesigns8961 Жыл бұрын

Impossible Mission one of my top 5 games from the period.

@SteveGuidi 2 жыл бұрын

I think we can all conclude that the cost of printing the whole disk (25 cents in bulk) was the killer of this otherwise neat idea. And what's up with Singapore being identified as a source of hypothetical print piracy (4:35)?

@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that companies thought piracy was going to kill them, but it wasn't worth 25 cents per disk to try to fight it. Guess it wasn't such a problem after all... I guess in the 1980s Singapore had cheap and good printing services.

@kikencorp 7 ай бұрын

I had a bunch of those Musicalc disks, they were beautiful

@aceenterprise 2 жыл бұрын

LOL, found a problem with the baseball game. At around 32:28, you caught a fly ball, the runner on second was already in motion and didn't return to tag the base before running to third. He should have been out as well. ;)

@mechaform 9 ай бұрын

Hi Robin, great retrospective! Broke at least one joystick during Summer Games. At some point can you share your dip switch settings for the Xpander with the SuperSnapshot and an REU (and/or other carts) that you use for development and debugging?

@LadyNicola 2 жыл бұрын

Just found out Commodore Format had cassette tapes on them. Gotta find some!

@SelfIndulgentGamer Жыл бұрын

I still remember the tunes from Beakdance 2 :D

@jeffrey44 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what elements of the full games are left on the disk. Did Impossible Mission have more than two rooms for example?

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it'd be interesting to further explore the disk. But I sort of thought 44 minutes was long enough! :)

@jeffrey44 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnimationByDylan There was the Arnie (or was it Arnie 2?) demo on a Commodore Format cover tape that contained the whole game. There was no need to hack it, you just needed to get past the obstacle they placed on the map which was easy to do with normal gameplay.

@GeoffSeeley 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Probably just a bit flip away from a full game!

@donaldhoot7741 2 жыл бұрын

It had a lot more than two rooms however I do not remember exactly how many.

@JesusisJesus 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnimationByDylan It worked better than 80% of the tapes that ended up on the market, they wouldn’t even load.

@thomasives7560 2 жыл бұрын

Love that outro - it is better than most KZfaqrs' intros! Thanks for the walk down memory lane, I remember Dvorak writing that the mouse would never catch on, so he is at least consistent. Cheers!!

@jpcompton 2 жыл бұрын

Genuine question: is there a concise list of Dvorak's *good* takes out there? It seems without trying that it is much easier to stumble into terrible ones.

@thomasives7560 2 жыл бұрын

@@jpcompton JC Dvorak is so prolific that it would take a dedicated historian to measure his hits and misses. He is still around, but now does political commentary podcasting (No Agenda Show) with Adam Curry, the ex MTV-VeeJay. And he's still wrong, a lot, but fun to listen to.

@kma5699 2 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing his name in one of the computer magazines I bought back in the day. Was it COMPUTE! or PCMAG? Maybe it wasn’t him specifically but the trend was predicting IBM’s OS2 was going to be the Windows killer

@fordprefect80 2 жыл бұрын

Cover tapes were a big thing in the mid to late 80s in the British magazines.

@JanRademan 2 жыл бұрын

30 years ago, the documents of record were PCMag and Byte Magazine. 30 years from now? Old episodes of Linus Tech Tips.

@alerey4363 2 жыл бұрын

if you defeat timer in other games you could end up playing indefinitely if the publisher relied only 90 sec. countdown as the only way to end each game (besides number of lives)

@brettbreet 2 жыл бұрын

That baseball game is awfully similar to Star League Baseball!

@PeterFreitag 2 жыл бұрын

nice outro!

@bald_engineer 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, where did you get that neat BLACK diskette? :)

@huntercoleman1347 2 жыл бұрын

If that new Patron listed at the end, Lance G. is KZfaq's The History Guy, that's pretty cool.

@snakefriesia6808 2 жыл бұрын

dang i wish i had this disk in my collection.. it is so cool !

@michaelb4439 2 жыл бұрын

I have eight Chromadisks for Voyage of the Mimi on the Apple II. I can try to photograph them if you're interested? Sadly my 1984 Epyx Preview Disc (sent to me directly from Epyx) is a standard black disk!

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely, it'd be great if you put them up somewhere public with #Chromadisk so people can find them, and if it's on Twitter or Instagram, tag me @8bitshowandtell so I can see them!

@michaelb4439 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit Will do, probably tomorrow afternoon!

@michaelb4439 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit I put them up on Twitter and tagged you!

@mikebell2112 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if wiggling your stick would make your runner get to first base faster. Moving the controller back and forth might help too.

@3rdaxis649 2 жыл бұрын

It would be so cool if that made those old games look like that fantastic artwork on the game itself.

@gmirwin 2 жыл бұрын

Each of those Houses in Silicon Warrior is a computer/video game company. So House of Apple is obviously Apple. House of Peanut is IBM based on the PC Jr (25:48). House of Pong is Atari because they made Pong. House of Adam is Coleco because of the Coleco Adam. Interesting little joke there.

@Shmbler 2 жыл бұрын

Nice outro ;-)

@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын

I used a spray can to make coloured 5.25" diskettes.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

How did you protect the magnetic media?

@Okurka. 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit I opened the top seam, removed the media, inserted card stock paper, sprayed the diskette, reinserted the media and I glued or even stapled the top back together. I only did it a few times.

@StevesRetroGaming Жыл бұрын

I love the Commodore MUSICALC disks - very collectible.

@richardhead8264 2 жыл бұрын

_Ahh the 1980s... When violent gang rivalries were supplanted with dancing contests._ 🕺🏼

@KingWilliam 2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember ever seeing any of those disks before....BTW...nice Retron77 joystick

@steviebboy69 2 жыл бұрын

I remember the coloured Musicalc disks with pictures in magazines but never saw one right in front of me. I do remember getting orange yellow and i think a light blue disks for the Amiga and I think it was that disk mag was it Jumpdisk?

@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын

Ken Houston wrote a book, IIRC, was called "Mastering Pac Man" and included patterns to get through the game and play it for as long as you wanted. He also slapped his name on a Colecovision game called "Ken Houston's Black Jack and Poker" I used to own the Pac Man book.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I had that book too! I had forgotten he was the author, but I knew the name was familiar. I think I mostly remember Uston's association with gambling type games.

@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын

@@8_Bit From what I can recall, he was a pretty famous "professional" gambler. I think that's how he got the Colecovision card game endorsement.

@TheHandOfFear 2 жыл бұрын

5:57 - I'm pretty sure that text is printed on the clear vinyl sleeve the diskette is in.

@SRDhain 2 жыл бұрын

This was fascinating. I think they might have hobbled one or two of the other games to make the demo disc, and there might be a cause for further exploration here. Incidentally, this version of breakdance (i.e. just this 'simon says' type event) was the one i think i saw years ago on a budget cassette release. There was another version (likely the disc version), which had the multiple levels / games described, but i think the cassette version may have required you to switch off and load each one separately. It's too simplistic to warrant anything other than a cursory glance, but the epyx branding was powerful back then, so it was sold as a finished product. Not uncommon, when you think of some of the lesser known games which aren't great, but are sold on lack of reviews and/ or label strength /image, but that's how it goes.

@steelplasma256 2 жыл бұрын

I wish Dvorak was right. Would have been awesome if all game Diskettes had cover artwork.

@SwedishEmpire1700 2 жыл бұрын

Ive seen one of those memo disk once, in a friends C64 collection.

@vcv6560 2 жыл бұрын

@8-Bit Show And Tell: I've noticed there's often a box for Pitstop II when you bring out a system, especially the breadbin. Sorry to ask again, but it's bugged me to want to know. Thanks.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, I went through previous videos and was surprised I had forgotten that I put Pitstop II in the WAITing for BASIC episode just a month ago. Though that was a 64C in that video. And going way back I showed a different copy of Pitstop II (boxed cassette from UK) in the video "Fixing a Bug in Rodnay Zaks' 'Programming the 6502'", though that was also a 64C. Unless I've missed some? But yes, it seems I'm losing track and showing some repeats :)

@GC-qe8vc 2 жыл бұрын

All these articles assuming that the customer buying a pirated disk was not actively seeking a pirated copy! :)))

@Heathcliff_hensel 2 жыл бұрын

John c Dvorak used to be on the TWIT network with Leo Laporte. But they had a falling out or something like that.

@kma5699 2 жыл бұрын

I used to listen to a program on a local AM station WFLA 970 on Saturday or Sunday afternoon and it was a program about computers with host Leo Laporte. This would have been at least 10 years ago.

@jeffbyrnes3686 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh fond memories of humble Puzzle Panic 💡

@bearcubd3900 2 жыл бұрын

BREAKDANCE LOOKED SO RAD !!

@retroweirdo5818 2 жыл бұрын

Impossible Mission was such a great game.

@io4439 2 жыл бұрын

Memron's street address in Oakleigh appears to be named after a famous modern Australian racehouse

@NikkiMcMistie 2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't born in the era of Commodore's supremacy but man when I played Impossible Mission on the C64 Maxi, it blew me away. The game just does so much from so little.

@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын

They balked at an extra 25 cents for the damned printing? This was in an era were a piece of software could sell for FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS! The cheapest were around 30-50 dollars. They are balking at 25 cents.

@8BitNaptime 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose you also need to add the cost of the graphic design, and maybe the whole process adds delay to the shipping.

@scality4309 2 жыл бұрын

I remember single (color) white printing on a red 5.25 PC disk early 1990's.

@jovmilos 2 жыл бұрын

Could we get techmoan to find out what model boom box is that on the left side of the screen? 😀

@CanadianRetroThings 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think I ever came across a Chromadisk on my Apple, I do remember one or two games I had (one for sure) that had a coloured disk but I am sure they also had the sticker labels (5 1/2 inch disks), no printing on the disk itself.

@robertlock5501 2 жыл бұрын

Surprised to see you haven't covered the Final Cartridge 3

@kke Жыл бұрын

Paradoxical name.

@AureliusR 2 жыл бұрын

Why is the Summer Games logo made to look like the Law & Order logo? lmao. That is so weird. I feel like some of the other titles on the disk are also ripping off other famous trademarks but I can't quite place them.

@8_Bit 2 жыл бұрын

They do look similar, but Summer Games was released in 1984, Law & Order didn't premier until 1990!

@scality4309 2 жыл бұрын

Epyx was a great company.

@musclesmouse 2 жыл бұрын

I think had one of these for my Atari or Apple 2 I liked hardball also for baseball

@JSRFFD2 2 жыл бұрын

I never saw this Epyx preview disk, but I think I purchased nearly all of the titles featured here. Several of my Activision games came with previews on the flip side. It introduced me to Activision software that my local software stores never carried, most notably The Music Studio. It wasn't until years later that I saw full releases of some of those titles!