lol​@@wearyterror9671

Time to call ccp kestrel

​@@wearyterror9671😂 that's savage

I'm sorry ccp kestrel but I'll crack a joke at anything win lose or draw

These look gorgeous

Same! Looking forward to seeing them in action

They look very basic but very nice

same bu i would have liked that the XL was the flat one to stay in the orca style :)

I personally love the fact they have a specialized hold, freeing up the rig and low slots for mobility/ tank/ warp stabs. All old haulers need an overhaul imo... those Upwell haulers are just 3x better and only downside is they can carry "structure stuff" and not everything

Hopefully cyno freighter too :)

BATTLE FREIGHTER!

With auto-targeting missiles bonus :)

Yep, a 'true' mobile missile platform. Right next to the ninja miner.

If you have enough miners to need a dedicated freighter you also have enough drone dps on grid to take care of npc's... But yeah, those new haulers look fun.

Ahhh... Yeah, I told myself that... But then I saw the freighter with missiles. I'm going to have to lose for at least a couple weeks in June, I think, before I go back to winning

deter, fight back, ha!

@@local9 "fc, horde fleet 4 jumps out." "how many?" "fc, about 400" "400? what they are in?" "fc..theyre in ... freighters"

Not player pirates. Just meant to fight back the NPC pirates that will be flying to the new infrastructure and pointing ships

@@Davidt1066 Make your Armed Merchantfleet dreams real.

These will definitely be seen as loot piñatas 🪅 🤣. Imagine trying to transport a keepstar and rigs. This is going to be a nightmare.

Bowhead can fit some extra modules and freighters can switch low slots

@@Groza_Dallocort wait, bowhead doesn’t have only lows? I guess I just assumed it’s like all the other freighters.

@@astron800 think it got three mid slots so a MWD usually goes in one the mids

This is needed desperately.

I honestly want them to bring back empire faction mining ships.

@@MalevolentStudios as in regular ships with mining bonuses? or new, dedicated mining ships unique to each empire faction? what would make them different than ORE mining ships?

@@mazhiwezakizo3513 Dedicated ships/variations of current ships. For instance, ships like the Bantam and Osprey were once mining ships for Caldari but were reworked into being logistical support ships once ORE was introduced.

What if....this is where those came from or Upwell drew their inspiration from 🤔

you realy copeing for more triglavian focused stuff lol. to me it looks like they wana forget them since the pochvan experiment gone down the drains.

Salvage in general need a overhaul.

These seem designed for PI/Upwell deployment and maintenance, not general cargo hauling, though I could be wrong. Let's see how they function once Equinox releases.

@@NyxDhark They can be designed with whatever intent the designers wish, they will be judged on the end product. The clips show them having cargo bays comparable to conventional haulers (approximately 25% less cargo bay with an identical fleet hangar for the DST) on top of their specialist bays. The other specialist hauling ships don't come anywhere remotely near the same cargo bay as conventional haulers. The clips also show them having better manoeuvrability than minmatar and 1,5x the warp speed of T1 haulers. At a price slightly higher than a T1 cruiser like they were aiming for, I can hardly NOT recommend a noob use this to the exclusion of all else for everything under the sun that isn't literally a suicide mission.

Then there's the matter of fitting and tank. These ships are far more forgiving than their conventional equivalents, as they get enough fitting constraints to add on missiles. There's no rule that says you *have* to fit the missiles though, so you can get away with fitting them like a conventional hauler with much more fitting space to throw at it. Since in Highsec one of the key metrics for how much you can safely haul is EHP per ISK hauled, these new ships once again look to be coming out on top. There might even be a niche for using the missiles to deny people from ganking you with paperthin glass-cannon destroyers, which further drives up the cost to gank you, though this very much remains to be seen. In short, from what we can glean from the clips, they appear to outperform conventional haulers on almost all metrics, not just their new roles. Not to say they aren't cool as heck! But y'know... spare a thought for the workhorses that risk being put out of business. If they made a significant sacrifice to their cargo bay and fleet hangar I'd unequivocally welcome them with open arms. (Hope some faction brings out armour and turret equivalents though. Shields get all the fun indy stuff.)

yes. Heard that too.

The Blueprints for them.

Imagine a fleet of these dropping on an unprepared gatecamp.

what's updog?!

​@@davidd9707 nothing much, wbu

doubt ccp will introduce more t3 cruisers until they figure out how to fix them.

@@Jeff55369 They are perfect in every way already. :)

PI stays the same. They are introducing new materials for these structures. If anything, I'm expecting a slight rise in PI prices - if these new structures will require PI materials to build.

@@nsmqac0118 I'm mostly concerned with the new Mineral supply oversupplying PI demand thus flooding markets with Minerals. Thus flooding the markets with excess PI. Thus thus market crash.

All of the torpedos really