Amen

Amen

AMEN. I'm going back to older games because of ads, too

​@@aiodensghost8645That and MTX

Use ublock

That's a good way to put it

half of the ads I get are literally for adblockers as well. KZfaq will go to war with adblockers, then still allow adblockers to advertise their programs.

@@thepersonwhoasked9475Because the adblockers paying for advertising are the ones which make exceptions for some sites like youtube in exchange for money

​@@thepersonwhoasked9475KZfaq belike: how dare you using our earned Money against us

Funny thing, I turned my adblocker off for KZfaq, then got an ad for an adblocker that worked better than the one I was using. Thank you, KZfaq.

Yup. I basically do EVERYTHING on firefox, as it allows me to install ublock origin (may the devs be blessed!) on all devices. Also i think firefox is the only browser which allows to install extensions on android. Correct me if i am wrong

@@no_name4796 I use librewolf which is firefox but it comes with ublock

As far as I know, Kiwi Browser is the only mobile browser with "full" extension support. Some do not work because mobile ≠ desktop, but most I use do. It's made by a solo dev who seems to care about privacy too. I do recommend checking it out.

@@no_name4796 chrome and most chromium based one can have android extensions but not very many devs support android. i think ublock does (idk)

@@no_name4796 you can install any extension avaible for pc chromium based browser on android with kiwi browser

2025 is pure nightmare of ads

I don't think the 2024 situation is much worse than the 1998 situation... It was really, really bad, especially since we didn't have the sophisticated tools we do now. The only reason it ever got better was a) browser improvements that should have been obvious, like "no autoplay" and "no popup", and b) adblock.

To the companies: Hurting you is now the point since you force viruses and scams on people, and even force NSFW on kids while attacking KZfaqrs for cursing.

2030: Ads on your cars, on your smart fridge, on your alarm clock. 2040: You must watch 10 ads to open your smart door.

@@thepersonwhoasked9475 Ads on cars are already here. People pay less to put up with an ad painted on their car.

KZfaqrs sponsors often aren't that much better tbh, and they're the ones that should manually review everything thoroughly.

They disallow swearing within the first like 15 seconds of a video. I don't know what videos you're watching but the ones I watched the person swears and they're monetized.

dragon pow literally had a girl giving a blowjob

​@@MamaMOB theres this fun fact about youtube as well, the rules dont actually matter. they will only follow the rules if they get bombarded on twitter, or if you dont bring enough traffic to the site. large creators are fairly safe to do most things (aside from genuine crime) while small users will and do struggle when doing almost anything without some unknown guidelines strike or a random fake company claiming their original content as stolen. (and the swearing thing is actually based on frequency not timestamp of language, so if you say it occasionally its fine but saying fuck ten times in a row will ruin ya)

Mobile games... (If you know you know)

i use librewolf with ublock origin (in librewolf its actually installed by default)

chromium better

everything based on chromium is a copy of chrome so, ur using a cheap browser, wile firefox has its own code

Crome is trash -- dont use this crap.

until manifest v3 blocks ad blocks, look it up its worrying for the state of the internet, especially since chromium based browsers have such a dominant market share already

youtube used to be incredibly sophisticated at serving ads. It would serve me chip datasheets because it knew I was an electronics hobbyist. It showed me a comic it thought I'd be interested in reading, and I actually was, the first and only time in 40 years of existence an ad actually showed me anything I wanted. Now, in the words of google's own employees, there's exactly two brackets of ads: the "home furnishings" crowd and the "tactical flashlights" crowd.

@@tsm688 there's definitely a strong presence of those dying from thirst. MxR plays is a prime example. As is anything COUB. The ads have been tryna sell me on everything from shiny rocks, to dating 60 somethings and long ass cruises. None of that appeals to me. I only like shiny rocks that cut, or make lasers. Travel is only as far as the nearest food shop, or cluster of trees I can camp in. As for that last one... I'm not dating someone old enough to be my mother.

@@justinpatterson5291 never heard of mxr. never heard of coub.

That’s because your brain is likely fully developed. You aren’t the target audience. Also they are playing the law of averages: someone, somewhere, will buy it because an ad played.

Ngl adds have never been a factor in me choosing to buy something but they certainly have been a factor in me avoiding several products. Generally the product is worse then the add says it is and if the add doesn’t even look good that’s a good sign it ain’t good. So thanks for the help in saving me money I guess

Yeah, you're not wrong

True words

@@EricMurphyxyz Except for this channel! And a few others

Definitely. Great time to get outdoors and experience the world

If only it was only the internet...

its become damn near as essential as even a basic antivirus at this point. all it takes is one usb for a bad virus, or one misclick online even while just trying ot update drivers.

Not really u can easily see if fake

@Demonpumkin if you're used to it, or know what to look for. Yes. Older family members and frienss who know just enough to go looking for drivers have caused me a few headaches this way

ads are still anoying

Some malware infects your computer just by the ad loading on a page. This is getting ridiculous.

I bet the companies against Ad Blockers get that same thought bubble that lawyer got in The Simpsons then shivers. (You know, the one where its basically paradise)

Thailand and Japan: we're fine, your ads just extremely bad

The USSR.

@@qwertykeyboard5901 Capitalism will (probably) survive without ads! If a business needs ads to survive, SKILL ISSUE!~ People will have to sell products and services that customers want and need, instead of maximizing the use of professional liars!

🏴‍☠️?

I've heard the echo of this sentiment enough to believe that because the drive to mantain or increase profits remains, but more people either block adverts of simply leave the site, the ads on these sites only become more intrusive and increase in volume, making the experience for people who don't use a blocker worse still, and mandating its use and popularity further, renewing the cycle. Mercy for those who still don't block ads...

​@@Bellicosy you are referring to the cobra effect

Same.

It sucks when it’s a news site, and I have to turn it off so I can cite it for a project.

@@justinbuddy56use a script blocker for those, the adblock check is part of the page script, so if nothing is allowed to run then you end up with a barebones text only page and no ads or blocker detection

Taking a selfie and showing google this

woah, google learned you’re transgender before even you knew /s

Finally someone fukin says it. I'm about to break something with the amount of unskipable 1 minute tampon ads I'm getting. I'm gay, I'm male, don't have sisters, where in the world would Google get their "yeah u deffo need this" idea??

@@Chaos_CattusThat’s amazing that you’re literally the farthest from the target of those ads and you’re still getting them

Opposite for my friend. They keep on getting hemtai ads and softcore pcorn

youtube used to be incredibly sophisticated at serving ads. It would serve me chip datasheets because it knew I was an electronics hobbyist. It showed me a comic it thought I'd be interested in reading, and I actually was, the first and only time in 40 years of existence an ad actually showed me anything I wanted. Now, in the words of google's own employees, there's exactly two brackets of ads: the "home furnishings" crowd and the "tactical flashlights" crowd.

Which is why I don’t complete the surveys because they’ll get worse no matter what I do. Also had to cancel my subscription to regular KZfaq because the price jumped up by over 150% the original price. I use KZfaq to listen to music, but I’m now strongly considering just buying it from the seller, which I should have done long ago, however, it would easily cost me 800 dollars to get the hours of music I want at the moment.

The most straightforward and true comment I’ve seen on this site

​@@initiald975youtube to mp3 converter is your friend

Man i remember in 2018 i got Durex ads 😂

@@LuigiCotocea trojan ads on pbs

I remember trying to print a page for a school project and an nfsw anime ad SOMEHOW popped up and printed with the pages.

@@SpriteCranberryReal When you got to school what did you do with the nsfw anime?

@@LuigiCotocea Throw it away and use another website. I don’t even watch or touch anything anime-related.

I bet you wanted to just be like 'I had a presentation, but my point was just proven' 😂

Marketing works so well, as you can tell!

I swear this sucks for a long page!

Fandom is just a horrible sight in general. I hate going on it

Someone checked the sourcecode and Fandom reloads a page after certain amount of time. It's a feature not a bug.

Recommendation: replace "fandom" with "antifandom" in the URL.

Get the indie wiki extension, it redirects away from fandom if a non-fandom wiki exists

youtube tried to give me a 30 minute ad. this website sucks

​@@lwfawnAdblock needed

​@@lwfawn30 mins? I've had a full 2 hr documentary as ad once 😂😂

Longest I got was like 55 mins I think

First of all, I must specify that I don't pay to stop ads because I don't care about them on Prime. However, concerning extortion for Prime, that couldn't be further from the truth of the matter. You get free Twitch subs each month including the prime gaming rewards. If you use Twitch you'll be technically saving money regardless of paying them. It's literally the only site with ads that I'm okay with.

I remember back in the day sitting through 20 minutes of advertising when networks broadcast movies on TV. The cycle is repeating.

But then the roots will start shooting out through the pot holes and cracks. At this point the tree will expand beyond its pot, invading other plants' territory

​@@AB-wf8ekpeople actually went to the kitchen or loo in that few minutes... And now we don't waste our time and money, unless you are coonsumer...

​@@nicholas_obertit'll absorb that area, choke out, and still die. Gaming is already doing this

Exactly. That's why a tree in a pot needs to be pruned, as well as periodically unpotted, have its roots trimmed, and get repotted with fresh soil. Corporations have gotten too big if they're an effective monopoly the way KZfaq, Facebook, et al have become. Monopolies need to be broken up into smaller component areas of business and divested into more competitive new businesses. It's not good for anyone for any one conglomerate entity to get too expansive and control too many things all by itself.

Time to pirate.

Yeah, when you're on a budget, you don't pay for ads, you pirate.

@@SucculentSpaz When you're on a budget? Nah. I wouldn't care if I was a billionaire, I'd still pirate before I _pay_ for ads, just on principle. That's the literal only reason to pay! To get the ideal level of service! If I'm going to pay for the better service and then just get the same service as the free tier anyway, there's no reason to pay at all.

I guess they adapt to amount of content consumed

I noticed something when I made a new instagram account after years. The first 7/10 days or so, I had basically no ads on my feed. Then I suddenly got flooded and stopped using it.

In croatia/yugoslavia TV ads, commercials were called EPP Economic propaganda programme. There was always a block of it after the main evening news show. That was just plain PPP political propaganda programme

The word "advertisement" was invented as a euphemism for propaganda. So quite literally, yes.

no, ads are propaganda, a blight, a plague, an obstruction, an obstacle and a VERY, VERY potent annoyance.

For me it was getting an ad that was on the side of a website and made noise. As someone with a lot of ads open, I don't want to sort through everything to find out where that weird noise is coming from.

ESPECIALLY on mobile devices!! Where screen space matters even more.

back in 1998 or so, shady download sites were already like that... there were whole long lists of instructions to follow before you were allowed to download something... "click this, then this, then this, then vote for me, and the download will unlock"

@tsm688 that must have kept going for awhile because I was born around then and I remember trying those. I could never get it to work, always got stuck with one of the social media sites not registering the like or something. Good thing too since there was probably just a virus behind that wall.

@@wrathofainz intentionally unreliable to farm more and more likes or clicks or whatever

​@@wrathofainz Close out of the site, click again and it'll redirect you. What's worse is that some sites block the element you tried to click before, so you need to refresh.

I don't know on what places you've browsed, but ads used to be easy worse. In the past there was flash, which allowed for fluent animation, sound and the execution of scripts. Especially the scripts were a problem: back then, you didn't need to go to a website to get infected by malware, if the ad was loaded, you'd already be infected by malware. Another problem because of scripts in flash were the popover ads which would break their own boundaries and just fill your screen. Now you've got a potentially malicious ad which forced you to click on, unless you closed the site. Sure we still have annoying popovers which ask for a subscription, but at least the close button does what it's supposed to. Lastly there was sound. Flash supported full-on animation, and it has even been used to make animated shows. So of course ads would play sounds on pages which were normally silent, just to try and grab your attention. In reality, they would only annoy you, because multiple ads would load on a page, all screaming at you all at once.. Although I mourn the death of indie animation using Flash, Adobe just couldn't make it safe. Ads were never good.

Don’t forget about opera GX [ads]

And QR code ads ​@@GAMER32231

one time I kept getting Mint Mobile ads even with ad blocker on and it was getting really annoying I went to the video itself and disliked it. I don't mind Ryan and all but if your ad is interrupting my watch time every single second then I'm going to get super annoyed and hate that product.

The only ads I've ever been interested for were The Battle Cats and like three music videos (yes, music videos). Everything else was just repetitive slop (don't even get me started on those misleading hypercasual ads)

WOAH WOAH HEY NOW... I can relate...

MONTH LONG FACEBOOK BAN (there are straight up full nudes in your feed that aren't banned)

​@@ffwastgotta love the 'you get a temp ban for TOS, but the advertisers can break TOS because they're paying the platform to put their ads on' 😂

Target: (sexualizes children in video ads) Google: This is fine EA: (markets gambling games to children) Google: No problem here NYT: (posts video about why child labor should be legalized) Google: Freedom of speech, man Some Random: (posts a 13 second clip of their kid splashing in a pool) Google: CHILD ABOOS!!! CALL THE TAKEDOWN BRIGADE! IP BAN FOR LIFE!

Yea.. it do be like that

Welcome to American corporatocracy

@@zeal9442 Where... 'Our politicians are interchangeable figureheads on the pirate ships of the Corporatocracy Empire"

Interactive ads, reminds me of an ad that I saw quite recently and that my adblocker didn't block. I was reading an article, there was an ad in the middle of it, and the text below it was blurred. It told me to answer the question to read the rest of the article, the question was about the price of something at a company, there were 3 options, when you chose one of them it said that the price is the lowest of the three options. Really interesting idea that I will remember for a while, but I wouldn't want to see more of it because that'd be really annoying.

@@k327dev the one they showed me and it was back in 2012, had like a video with a guy and you could choose dimb but funny things he could do. Another example they showed us where ads where with a guy and a bear. You could write what would happen next. Lastly I remember this funny one from Audi that said something along the line of “the longest ad allowed is 10 seconds. We only need 5 to show how fast our car is”. I don’t remember much details but back than everyone was excited thinking how ads could be funny, informative and interactive instead of just showing a stupid banner. Problem is that kind of advertising was expensive and often very specific to the website it was developed for. Those are still ads but at least they were meant to have some creativity. Instead ads are now just stupid banners based on what an algorithm thinks you like. Almost no human interaction required.

Well there is this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten But its crap.

Mine's every 2....and the ads are bigger than the videos. Maximize those accidental clicks. They were far more sensitive to touch and rotation, as well. A brush of clothing won't change the video, but it sure will open those dopey ads. Video won't rotate worth a 💩 but the ads skip button bounced all over the place if the phone wasn't in full upright or side position. Insanity.

Try checking out something called ReVanced, you can use it to edit an APK of the KZfaq app with patches that remove ads. It also has a lot of other nice features. Edit: also if you're phone is rooted, you don't even have to patch a separate APK, I believe you can just patch the app directly.

if you use android, consider getting youtube revanced. it comes with adblock, sponsorblock, background playback and many more.

I've had several instances where I'll skip an ad and it'll just *immediately* give me two more, usually without the option to skip. It's actually just ridiculous.

KZfaq Revanced for mobile. Look into it.

It will never get better as long as ad-providers like Google are not held legally responsible.

Here are the two main reasons why cable TV has ads: 1. The ever-increasing royalty fees that studios charge to the cable networks to broadcast their shows and movies; and 2. Bloat, which afflicts both the cable networks and the studios. Bloat means an excessive percentage of administrators vs. actually productive workers. These two reasons feed off each other: the more administrative bloat the cable TV networks and the studios have, the more money they need to make. This bloat one-two punch is what necessitates increases in cable TV commercials over time. Someone made a series of charts that illustrate a bureaucracy's lifecycle. Here are the stages of said lifecycle: 1. Launch 2. Growth 3. Maturity 4. Bloat 5. Budget Cuts 6. Failure/Implosion *Launch:* Tight budgets, modest pay, minimal benefits, high camaraderie *Growth:* rapid growth in program and staffing; morale high *Maturity:* "mission creep", union & admin gain politcal power; debts solidify, infighting *Bloat:* budget is flat but admin costs rise; gaming the system and fraud are rife *Budget Cuts:* Program abandoned as focus shifts to protecting budget and staff pay/benefits *Failure/Implosion:* the competent retire leaving the incompetent in command; morale low, chaos and failure the norm; organizational implosion

TV only died because the web replaced it…

hate to say it but you're right. hard to imagine the web dying but, just like email, the protocol is becoming less and less useful because it's both so incredibly centrally-owned and organized yet wholly spam-ridden. the upshot is we don't need to invent a new medium, just a new protocol.

@@tsm688 Unless there’s a replacement, it won’t die. Too many people are dependent on the web to go back.

@@lockl00p27 I mean in the sense that email "died". It's not possible for people to set up email servers any more - they'll be ignored by the commercial servers - and any communities which existed in it as a medium have been sandpapered out of existence by the endless attacks on it from all sides.

​@@tsm688 What could be defense features for new mail-like system?

If you're willing to download something to your phone, look up youtube revanced. Blocks all the ads and I haven't gotten any (aside from creator-made sponsors, which revanced can also detect and auto-skip) in so long. One caveat I've found is that sometimes it takes a while for the videos to actually load and you'll just have a blank screen. I still think it's worth it though.

Yessir

why not use it along with ublock?

ublock?

​@@qlx-iprobably on iphone

he said pihole​@@qlx-i

You need a plug-in for your browser and a different app for your phone

Commenting on this to get notifs on this.

@@sallyparty1978 yeah me too

Leaving a comment for future reference

I genuinely cannot believe the sad reality of paying over a grand for a phone just to get built in ads and scammy bloatware

​@@mizuukki ads on mobile is nuts, my sister got a phone, installed some app, and she gets an ad when she logs in, and i couldn't locate app until now

ads don't promote products as much as they promote brands. they wanna brainwash you so that, if & when you are in the market for life insurance or whatever, you default to their cringey jingle & be a good little capitalist cog.

Exactly.

yes, but since you're on this channel, you're not one of the gullible people who inhale everything the internet throws at them. I'd say that 90 percent of the viewership here has above average knowledge regarding technology and the web in general. The "normies" are on a whole different level, unfortunately.

I've seen some! Not very often, but I was looking up fiber optic networking once and got an ad for a store that sells all that stuff pretty cheap. That's memorable because it's the ONLY time it ever happened.

KZfaq used to be incredibly sophisticated at serving ads. It would serve me chip datasheets because it knew I was an electronics hobbyist. I ended up not getting it, but because it was actually relevant to problems i had at the time, I at least considered it... It also showed me a comic it thought I'd be interested in reading, and I actually was, the first and only time in 40 years of existence an ad actually showed me anything I wanted. Now, in the words of google's own employees, there's exactly two brackets of ads: the "home furnishings" crowd and the "tactical flashlight" crowd. Their ads suck because they stopped targeting and stopped vetting.

Thanks Streisand Effect Company: "Please don't use an adblocker." People: "Wait, you can block ads?" People: [installs ad blockers] Same thing happened when kids were told not to pirate content. They were taught that they can get content for free and that it's easy

I have a friend that SUPPORTS ADS, and is a google fanboy. I still don’t understand why. He believes that google is a service that is worth giving data to for their service. I would agree, if it weren’t for the fact that google is a monopoly and doesn’t need anymore of our money

@@ambiarock590 Also good old Reddit... but sadly they ended up winning by force...

Also google slowing down PCs with ad blocker does not really work, because people will assume they are getting bad internet or something is wrong with the PC they are using

Now make sense, i was watching cartoons on streams and it was a bit slow 😂

used to? they never stopped.

@@tsm688 Yeah but browsers can handle those on their own nowadays.

Called it

And the worst thing is: the creator of the video basically making you click the video and watch the ad, sees basically none of the profits

Interesting, I didn't know that!

@@constantineandriyanov8200 Yes, but I was speaking generally about the entire Russian KZfaq platform. Sometimes greed is so significant that even opposition figures are willing to use Boosty. Btw your name and surname are literally the same as those of a Russian KZfaqr I used to watch in the past.

The absolute benefit on living in US sanctioned countries. Basically you're like have YT premium without having to pay anything

@@constantineandriyanov8200 Russia sucks big time, lol

Me setting my vpn to russia

if you like brave don't add more extensions. Choose between brave shields or ublock

@@lussor1 I never seen any issues while having both, so i'll stay like that

That might change for you in a few months, after they added manifest v3 (which is next month) to the chromium engine, brave will be forced to adapt after some months have passed to keep up with the latest version of the engine. Breaking plugins like adblockers etc. Time to switch to FF or any other non chromium based browser.

@@mical-9066is it possible for chromium browsers to just change that part of the source code or will it be like when flash was killed?

KZfaq is a google service

Adblocker on routers block ad domains, but YT ads are loaded from same domains as regular videos. So you have either buy a Premium or scan every single YT request in MITM style.

All the softcore hentai in ads does feel vaguely Slaanesh-ish

They don't track you, they track an endpoint. It's not your privacy, they don't know who you are unless you create an account.

That was a big part of it for me,I discovered blockers on dialup.

Me neither

Me Neither

Me Neither

I did

Sam

its made to look obvious on purpose, they want grandma and grandpa who dont actually know better to click because if you're dumb enough to click on the bright green button that doesn't match the site at all, you're almost certain to fall for the inevitable call from the "microsoft security team" or "amazon checking team" they want smart people to scoff and walk away while the rest are piggy banks in the scammers hands

Oh man. Even Wells Fargo doesn’t do that to my family. And they have a bad reputation!!

There are still plenty of people who fall for the ads. Can't give a good measure on how many exactly, but there's more than there really should be.

@@AlmightyRager95 I imagine there have to be if companies are paying for ad spaces still. I just can't imagine who they are. How aren't they desensitized to that shit already? Everywhere you look are ads. I see them solely as an annoyance. I don't read them, I don't listen to them, I don't look at them, and even when I do, it's in one ear and out the other, barely flushes through my brain before being dismissed. There's such an oversaturation of just about every market and just about every advertizing technique has been overused. I just don't know what your background and age have to be for you to not be desensitized and disinterested entirely. I definitely don't want to call anyone stupid for falling for ads. They're engineered by people who know their stuff specifically to tempt you into buying something. There's no shame in having that work on you. I just genuinely don't know what type of person reacts to them is all.

@@AlmightyRager95Most are definitely older people who aren’t familiar with scams and people new to the internet in general.

@@netherwarrior6113 Sounds about right. Shame really.

iOS also has an app. The first word of is name is video, the second word is lite

Revanced is a godsend, original yt app is just full of weird ass ads

​@@Villager_UI also refuse to pay for a service that used to be on an app for free. Like playing the video in the background.

Only the internet on smartphones is worse, I had a hard time switching from chrome to anything because of synchronization, but once I decided and found a browser with extension support, I was finally able to use the internet normally, without overlapping garbage on half of a 6 inch screen

if you do end up doing that kernel level adblock hmu

I do not believe in ads, subscription models, and the like. I believe in one-time paywalls where all content is behind a paywall and requires payment.

When you're selling junk, not only are you trying to spend as little as possible on ads, your cheap ads also naturally act as a filter for attracting people who have low discernment for quality.

why would you ever have to watch ads when you got cable? why would you ever have to watch ads when you got netflix? why would you ever have to watch ads when you got prime? because they got greedy.

You mean there's another world... outside?

@@javaman4584 yep :D Just going through a couple hundreds sound casettes in my parent's house. I am definitely going to keep a few and get a casette player. The sound is still good on them. The Chrome ones were better than the ferrous ones.

wish now i never got the internet waste of time and money i find i do listen to more records than i did when there were less adverts on the internet

Its not just bloat sometimes ads can even slow down computers or the browser it self if you end up using a somewhat low end pc which would make those people wanna use a ad blocker more just to gain that extra performance

The web should be controlled by sevral nonprofit entities and never by a for-profit entity. We should threaten to escape the entire Internet and protest unethical companies while switching to free software and removing all proprietary bloat.

I'd say google is the internet...

I remember what the internet was like in 2008, it was my first experience, the scale seemed colossal, it seemed like I didn't have enough time in my life to visit it all, and here I am in 2024, the internet is literally 2-3 sites where 99% of the information is located, as unfortunate as it is to realize, I could literally feel how much the internet has shrunk and become primitive compared to how I remembered it in those years.

Wdym I love looking up an app related to a new job or other every day things and being told I may also like to download Genshin Impact on top of it even before I find the actual app I searched by name every single time

Sponsered apps that do one little thing like read a qr code except they are cluttered by even MORE ads.