Erosion worsens at Rapidan Dam

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4 күн бұрын

New aerial video shows the increased erosion of soil near the Rapidan Dam after a partial failure this week.
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@c-qc-q2021
@c-qc-q2021 2 күн бұрын
When there's no more water going over the dam and it's all going around it, it's no longer a dam, it's a diversion.
@kimjongun8731
@kimjongun8731 2 күн бұрын
Damit
@PowderMill
@PowderMill 2 күн бұрын
They could not afford the maintenance and repairs required to keep it safe. No funds are allowed to be spent on United States infrastructure under the “Pederast-in-Chief’s administration. All tax dollars must be diverted straight to the Ukraine Warmongering bunch.
@ThomasD66
@ThomasD66 2 күн бұрын
Spectator at best
@anthonys7534
@anthonys7534 2 күн бұрын
Dam!
@wallyman292
@wallyman292 2 күн бұрын
Yep! When the dam is no longer a factor in the situation, then you're pretty safe in saying it failed!
@arkwill14
@arkwill14 2 күн бұрын
I think they can stop saying partial failure. When the width of the channel flowing _around_ your dam is nearly the same width of the dam itself - there is nothing "partial" about it. It's failed.
@jgchalmers
@jgchalmers 2 күн бұрын
that's not how English works
@JFlower7
@JFlower7 2 күн бұрын
The ONLY reason they can say partially failed is because the river made it's own path. So in fact the dam, that was suppose to hold the river did indeed fail.
@freedomrings1420
@freedomrings1420 2 күн бұрын
The dam didn't fail , it's still there. The ground on one side failed. Big difference.
@eTraxx
@eTraxx 2 күн бұрын
Reading the comments makes me think politicians entered the fray
@RedKnight-fn6jr
@RedKnight-fn6jr 2 күн бұрын
The dam wall may look structurally intact, but it's completely irrelevant at this stage - the dam is no longer on the river!
@kevlowe
@kevlowe 2 күн бұрын
The power of water is absolutely insane!
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 күн бұрын
Always underestimated, too.
@j.p.4199
@j.p.4199 2 күн бұрын
God created water. Never doubt the power of God
@feeblereptilian
@feeblereptilian 2 күн бұрын
@@j.p.4199go back to school.
@lutomson3496
@lutomson3496 2 күн бұрын
the power of fire is insane, those of us that have lost homes and lives to wildfires know at least there is warnings here
@mplsmark222
@mplsmark222 2 күн бұрын
@@lutomson3496any loss is tragic and life altering, but to lose your house and the very land it was built on over 100 years ago is on another level.
@frankblangeard8865
@frankblangeard8865 2 күн бұрын
The only thing that the dam is holding back now is 114 years of built up sediment.
@nicotti
@nicotti 2 күн бұрын
As black as that water looks, I'm not sure it's even doing that any more.
@notalenthere
@notalenthere 2 күн бұрын
Yeah as the river is cutting down around the dam it will continue to lower lake level until almost no lake is left. In process it is releasing all the silt as well. It seems the dam gates do not extend deep enough to continue allowing water to flow through damn which means there hasn’t been silt removal previously (or there are lower gates but not able to lift).
@terranbyte2619
@terranbyte2619 2 күн бұрын
@@notalenthere doesn't seem like there are spillways on the lower portions of this dam, and considering its fairly old one too. I'd imagine the builders didn't think lower gates were needed, which is likely why it had also been considered for removal. Plus likely why they were struggling to keep water levels down before, and the log jam that occur shortly before the partial failure started was likely the nail in the coffin for this dam.
@jonb9178
@jonb9178 2 күн бұрын
It's all long washed away. The Media is missing this. It's a big mess
@paccarcrap
@paccarcrap Күн бұрын
The old girl still stands or what the thing identifies as 😂😂😂
@allanvietmeier228
@allanvietmeier228 2 күн бұрын
removal of that dam is the only way to stop this erosion. The right angle force of the river is much greater then a straight flow and will continue to chew at the unprotected bank until the water flow diminishes or the flow is straightened out again.
@chrisfoxwell4128
@chrisfoxwell4128 2 күн бұрын
Kind of a tough time to try to demolish a dam.
@pampoovey3281
@pampoovey3281 2 күн бұрын
@@chrisfoxwell4128 Bouncing Bettys
@UtubeH8tr
@UtubeH8tr 2 күн бұрын
Thermite and semtex.
@jonathanlanglois2742
@jonathanlanglois2742 2 күн бұрын
There's no stopping erosion. When you say "make the river channel straight", that's actually a mistake that we've been making for the last few centuries. By straightening rivers, we accelerate the flow, which increases the speed of flow, and its destructive potential. A natural river meanders which slows down the flow and allows sediments to be deposited. Even the very best erosion control structure that we humans can build eventually suffer the wrath of nature.
@allanvietmeier228
@allanvietmeier228 2 күн бұрын
@@pampoovey3281 I understand that is difficult and I am not saying that they should do it but was simply adding this as context for the people that don't understand what is happening. As the water drops and picks up the sentiment in the front of the dam as it is starting to now it could become even more abrasive and chewing action could get worse. People assume as the flows diminish that the destruction should diminish as well but that will only be the case when the bottom of the river is the same on either side of the dam. that is 80 plus vertical feet the water has to chew through to reach that equilibrium.
@shirleybalinski4535
@shirleybalinski4535 2 күн бұрын
River is carving a new channel.
@karlschuneman7960
@karlschuneman7960 2 күн бұрын
Rivers seems to do this every day, it appears to be their job.
@fswatyahoocom
@fswatyahoocom 2 күн бұрын
water always finds its way!
@troyrager1352
@troyrager1352 2 күн бұрын
Saved the dam at least but I think a failure of a section of the dam might have released less water, that sucker is taking no time to create a new channel.
@paulbade3566
@paulbade3566 2 күн бұрын
@@troyrager1352 Remember those grade school science lessons that said it takes "millions of years" to carve a river down to what we see today? LOL. Look how fast the river cut through the bedrock on the west side of the dam.
@troyrager1352
@troyrager1352 2 күн бұрын
@@paulbade3566yessss! I was going to say something similar, catastrophic events, besides glaciation, carve out most land in short periods then gradualism flows through it's aftermath. Mainstream science is a cesspool of gate keeping of the old ideas sometimes and flat out wrong theories being propped up as facts. Too much ego and lust for funding and power won't let them change which is why a lot of science advances leaps and bounds after prominent scientists age and pass away or step aside. School could be so fun done right.
@Point_Particle
@Point_Particle 2 күн бұрын
Note to self: never build a home a couple hundred feet away from a dam...
@g3user1usa
@g3user1usa 2 күн бұрын
Or that close to any river, in general. But people always want to get a good view of the river even if it ends up in their house. No thanks. I also don't think it's a good idea to buy a house in a flood plain area. Floodwater up to your rooftop can't be much fun. I'm happy to see some of those flood victims take the flooding so well. I'd be freaking out after losing everything I owned.
@milwaukeeroadjim9253
@milwaukeeroadjim9253 2 күн бұрын
Or below one
@phantomthiefjoker939
@phantomthiefjoker939 2 күн бұрын
Looks super dangerous being near to it.
@bl8388
@bl8388 16 сағат бұрын
@@g3user1usa Possibly family owned the land before the dam. And this is not a typical occurrence.
@ReallyMaxPayload
@ReallyMaxPayload 2 күн бұрын
Oh, the house has gone. Those poor people. I hope they're being supported.
@sprengron
@sprengron 2 күн бұрын
They are, and will continue to be.
@ReallyMaxPayload
@ReallyMaxPayload 2 күн бұрын
@@sprengron Good to hear. Thank you.
@SirNic4180
@SirNic4180 2 күн бұрын
Or don't build a house near the water 😅
@bruanlokisson8615
@bruanlokisson8615 2 күн бұрын
Bad choices are oft rewarded.
@K-Anne_
@K-Anne_ 2 күн бұрын
@@sprengronFeel for them and the family, community of that store.
@vincentrockel1149
@vincentrockel1149 2 күн бұрын
It would appear that the dam is no longer serving as a restraint on the river.
@005string005
@005string005 2 күн бұрын
It never was a restraint for water but for sediment.
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 күн бұрын
What makes you say that?
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 күн бұрын
What gave it away
@kornofulgur
@kornofulgur 2 күн бұрын
Lools like the side fell off.
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 2 күн бұрын
awww that house is gone......
@connieellerbe-maycock7115
@connieellerbe-maycock7115 2 күн бұрын
Yeah it fell in last night.
@suehowie152
@suehowie152 2 күн бұрын
😢
@tuvelat7302
@tuvelat7302 2 күн бұрын
I hope they had a chance to get some things.
@doodle8
@doodle8 2 күн бұрын
And the property the house was on is gone too.
@larrygaal4808
@larrygaal4808 2 күн бұрын
@@connieellerbe-maycock7115 ANY VIDEO OF IT FALLING IN?
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 2 күн бұрын
The owners of the house also own the little building near the bank, and the name of it is the "The Dam Cafe." They knew they were going to loose the house, but they were almost in tears over the prospect of losing the little cafe. I felt really bad for them.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 күн бұрын
What do you do? You can't rebuild, there's nothing to rebuild on. So very sad for them.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 2 күн бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 No, there is nothing they can do. The cliff is now very close to the cafe, which is the small building you see right next to edge now. At this point they will likely not loose the cafe, but I have no idea of what happens when your land is washed away. I am guessing insurance will build them a new home, but it won't pay for the land they will need.
@tstahler5420
@tstahler5420 2 күн бұрын
We're going to need a bigger dam!
@Heal_Hound
@Heal_Hound 2 күн бұрын
How about you find a different way to generate hydro power. In the 6000 year history of China, Dams always fail and reap the destruction of Empire.
@starguy2718
@starguy2718 2 күн бұрын
Chief Brody to Captain Quint.
@richardpisarski3151
@richardpisarski3151 2 күн бұрын
They need to vote in competent politicians who hire competent engineers who both do THEIR JOB. Unfortunately the public never learns and votes in the same 🤡 all the time. Michigan has gone through the same BS and then the people get stuck with the bill as usual. Penny wise and dollar foolish as they say.
@MrSTINGRAYJ2008
@MrSTINGRAYJ2008 2 күн бұрын
​@@richardpisarski3151I think you are right
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 2 күн бұрын
Damn. The dam store is on the menu. Tragic loss for the local community.
@theboringchannel2027
@theboringchannel2027 2 күн бұрын
with no dam or road, that store is done because of the reduced traffic.
@reeceharrison9986
@reeceharrison9986 2 күн бұрын
@@theboringchannel2027 There's a good chance the store will join the house in the river.
@theboringchannel2027
@theboringchannel2027 2 күн бұрын
@@reeceharrison9986 yes, probably correct, which might be their best case scenario if they have insurance, because the business has already died going into the future.
@sprengron
@sprengron 2 күн бұрын
@@theboringchannel2027 The road over the bridge will remain. The store has been there for fifty years and will continue to be successful -- if the building can survive. Local support for the dam store will be enormous once this crisis passes.
@gordonanderson3111
@gordonanderson3111 2 күн бұрын
The Riverside Store formerly known as Dam.
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 2 күн бұрын
After over a century of annoyance, ol' Blue Earth River just said: "eff that, I'll go over here"
@mybirds2525
@mybirds2525 2 күн бұрын
It is a fact that nobody seems to realize. You can put a dam in a river and in 500 years the river will be as if no dam ever existed.
@allanvietmeier228
@allanvietmeier228 2 күн бұрын
@@mybirds2525 As someone that lives on the Missouri river I can attest to the fact that managing the Mighty Mo is an impossibility. If the river wants it the river will have it. Removal of dams in a controlled manner should be the plan of the day since mother nature isn't as forgiving when she does it for them.
@mybirds2525
@mybirds2525 Күн бұрын
@@allanvietmeier228 I don't know that removal is in order but definitely the lakes must have silt removed. That is a massive chore
@bl8388
@bl8388 17 сағат бұрын
@@mybirds2525 I understood this before my 475th birthday.
@daveh4832
@daveh4832 2 күн бұрын
couldn't imagine working your life away to pay for a house that gets washed away
@kc8639
@kc8639 2 күн бұрын
Insurance will probably dodge this one too. "You were not covered under the raging river clause."
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 2 күн бұрын
Luck is everything during terrestrial existence. Literally everything. On average, the majority of individuals will claim that their hard work led to X, Y, or Z, but all of them are deceived. Self-deceived. Fortune--good or bad--rules all. No exceptions.
@teamidris
@teamidris 2 күн бұрын
All the decorating, upgrades, plumbing. You at least have your land normally to rebuild. That isn’t getting filled back in, it’s like a million tons.
@bevmacdonald9008
@bevmacdonald9008 2 күн бұрын
It's so heartbreaking. I hope they have good insurance. Unless you are 'squatting', have paid off your mortgage, or you are homeless, you are paying a mortgage: yours or someone else's.
@Wee162
@Wee162 2 күн бұрын
And it looks like the homeowners have also lost their business, the restaurant.
@florencedahl3617
@florencedahl3617 2 күн бұрын
What a view from the air 😮
@JohnDoesItAll
@JohnDoesItAll 2 күн бұрын
Sad to see the house gone but hopefully nature will spare the family store. So tragic 😢
@josephpearlman4010
@josephpearlman4010 2 күн бұрын
If it does, their property value just went up, now that it's riverfront.
@TimJBucci
@TimJBucci 2 күн бұрын
There's only going to be more weather anomalies with greenhouse gasses added to the gasses already tossed into the air naturally. Plus all of the chemtrails they spew into the skies for weather modification isn't helping.
@timb7775
@timb7775 2 күн бұрын
There's no way that store is safe to go in ever again. It will be demolished.
@deanoimo
@deanoimo 2 күн бұрын
Store? That whole bridge will be gone within a week!
@darlenegillmore6116
@darlenegillmore6116 2 күн бұрын
Looks like if this keeps up not much hope for the family restaurant. So sad. I live close to the Lake Of The Ozark in Mo and have always wonder what would happen if that damn breached. The corp of engineers run the turbines when it gets close to the 660 ft and it floods all the way to the Missouri and then flows into the Mississippi and it floods too. Pray to God that damn never breaches.
@patrickrabion9473
@patrickrabion9473 2 күн бұрын
Dam, what dam?? The dam is pretty much useless now.
@seseLsan
@seseLsan 2 күн бұрын
Unacceptable, even though this is reality
@2DSTORMS
@2DSTORMS 2 күн бұрын
Lake Delhi Dam failure in Iowa, took YEARS to fix
@jerryolson3408
@jerryolson3408 2 күн бұрын
The Dam built in 1905 Has survived intact even including the power house. The failure is due to a lack of attention to the downstream left embankment. This structure can be repaired an last another 120 years.
@HEAVENBOUND267
@HEAVENBOUND267 2 күн бұрын
​@@jerryolson3408agreed 👍
@toddwilliams5905
@toddwilliams5905 2 күн бұрын
It has been water in water out since 2019. Full of silt. That is the black you see now.
@jamesalias595
@jamesalias595 2 күн бұрын
If the erosion eats back upstream to straighten out the bend, the bridge could be in danger, so far it seems to have resisted doing so, but if another big storm hits and the dam is still standing it could happen.
@plmn93
@plmn93 2 күн бұрын
The bridge is probably already a goner. It was built on the sediment that had accumulated behind the dam. That sediment is now eroding away and washing downriver. In some pictures it looks like one of the pier's foundation is already starting to get exposed.
@SirNic4180
@SirNic4180 2 күн бұрын
Oh well. This is what happens when you do not invest in infrastructure. The better question is who is the dam person who is in charge of monitoring the dam😮
@plmn93
@plmn93 2 күн бұрын
@@SirNic4180 They did invest in it. It was damaged by flooding 5 years ago. Proposals were made for repair or removal but a decision had not been made yet, and even if it had been, the work would not have been done by now. Though there were significant long term issues that needed to be addressed, just last month the feds declared its condition "satisfactory".
@paca_bill4863
@paca_bill4863 2 күн бұрын
Interesting to see the different layers of rock and dirt at 0:30. Amazing to see they installed the posts for the mail box stand 3-4' in the ground - the installation crew didn't cut corners there. And I'm surprised to see how extensive the root systems are from all of the trees.
@Tomcat71
@Tomcat71 2 күн бұрын
millions of years of deposits washed down the river and the samples are seeing sunlight for the first time in millions of years . earth is crazy .
@plmn93
@plmn93 2 күн бұрын
Frost line is at 3.5', gotta dig below that.
@crabbyhayes1076
@crabbyhayes1076 2 күн бұрын
@@plmn93 Cold winters in Minnesota!
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 күн бұрын
@@plmn93 For a mailbox post? Uh...No.
@plmn93
@plmn93 2 күн бұрын
@@choppermike3329 Uh, yes. Mailbox posts, fence posts, basketball poles, foundations, basically anything you don't want to have heave in the clay soil in that area.
@bradley-eblesisor
@bradley-eblesisor 2 күн бұрын
Those poor, poor people. My heart goes out to everyone affected. 🙏🏻
@Teabahgeue
@Teabahgeue 2 күн бұрын
This is a dam tragedy..
@StaceyNelsonTVNetwork
@StaceyNelsonTVNetwork 2 күн бұрын
😅💯
@annabellelee4535
@annabellelee4535 2 күн бұрын
Dam right!
@Rebirth602
@Rebirth602 2 күн бұрын
Thats the dam truth of it..
@StaceyNelsonTVNetwork
@StaceyNelsonTVNetwork 2 күн бұрын
@@Rebirth602 😂
@galewinds7696
@galewinds7696 Күн бұрын
Dam it.......knock it off >>>dam
@totalbullion5882
@totalbullion5882 2 күн бұрын
You can imagine what's happening to the ground underneath that point where it really drops off.
@bl8388
@bl8388 16 сағат бұрын
I imagine splashy water making super splashy noises. Even when all the people and animals are asleep at night, just splashing away.
@nicotti
@nicotti 2 күн бұрын
Engineer said in the press conference tuesday that they were worried about the silt stuck behind the dam moving downstream. As black as that water is and how far upstream those standing waves go (1:57), I'd say they have every reason to be worried.
@queenofspadz
@queenofspadz 2 күн бұрын
What's the signifigance of silt buildup behind the concrete structure that was the dam? Not sure how fast or feasible but could they not start dismangting the dam structure in efforts to save the store?
@amyself6678
@amyself6678 2 күн бұрын
MN lowlands are mostly ignored, it's the higher flat farmland that makes the money. I'd guess some more sand banks will appear below Mankato but overall this dam failure won't affect much. I lived in New Ulm and you'd not notice it had a river nearby. I wonder if St Paul channel might silt up, but that's 100 miles away so not likely..
@nicotti
@nicotti 2 күн бұрын
@@queenofspadz Ecological disaster downstream from the silt burying stuff and possibly undermining the support pillars for the highway bridge, are the two things the county engineer mentioned. If the erosion continues at the same rate as yesterday, the store'll fall in some time today/tonight. Can't dismantle the dam that quick.
@BradHouser
@BradHouser 2 күн бұрын
@@queenofspadz The silt clogs up the downstream parts of the river impacting the environment, killing off plants and fish. The faster the release of silt, the worse the impact. The store is expendable. Nothing they can do will help the store except to pray. They cannot attempt to do anything about repairing until the water flow drops way down and they can remove the debris from the dam. Only then can they think about filling in the eroded area.
@BradHouser
@BradHouser 2 күн бұрын
@@nicotti No way they would dismantle the dam to save the store.
@trmentry
@trmentry 2 күн бұрын
might as well remove the damn completely at this point.
@Summerbreeze537
@Summerbreeze537 2 күн бұрын
No
@simpinainteasyRHEC
@simpinainteasyRHEC 2 күн бұрын
Soooo... keep it as a water monument? Lol
@thehillbillyhilton3557
@thehillbillyhilton3557 2 күн бұрын
​​@@Summerbreeze537why? What purpose is serving? What purpose did it serve besides creating a lake?
@aphextwin5712
@aphextwin5712 2 күн бұрын
@@thehillbillyhilton3557Wouldn’t your logic apply to any and all dams?
@thehillbillyhilton3557
@thehillbillyhilton3557 2 күн бұрын
@@aphextwin5712 for the most part but that dam is fubared
@bonafide2410
@bonafide2410 2 күн бұрын
I wonder if that water flow, will carve out those bridge supports on that side and collapse it????
@mrabrasive51
@mrabrasive51 2 күн бұрын
Eventually it will.
@james_robnett
@james_robnett 2 күн бұрын
Dam isn't going to fail so much as it will be completely ignored. It's no longer in the channel.
@elliottsmith3632
@elliottsmith3632 2 күн бұрын
A river can be enjoyed but when it wants to move, there is nothing you can do to stop it. you may be able to control for a time, but it will do what it wants. Looking at Google maps, looks like the river has chewed up about 200 feet of dry land.
@BryanLebel-gm4jd
@BryanLebel-gm4jd 2 күн бұрын
Watch out downstream. The entire lake bed is about to drain and very rapidly. The foundation of the bridge is also at risk. Look at the current around the bridge posts or support's. The whole bridge could collapse
@sprengron
@sprengron 2 күн бұрын
If the dam had totally failed it would have resulted in a two foot surge in nearby Mankato, not a dramatic increase. The river has been flowing like this for days. Most of the "reservoir" behind the dam is actually silt.
@nicotti
@nicotti 2 күн бұрын
@@sprengron Agreed. Unfortunately the massive downstream release of that captured silt, that the engineers hoped wouldn't happen, is currently happening. :(
@7phyton
@7phyton 2 күн бұрын
Perfect! Saves on demolition costs, which would be inevitable otherwise.
@tthappyrock368
@tthappyrock368 2 күн бұрын
I hope the community will rally around the man whose house and now probably, store, have been destroyed! How heartbreaking!
@Jason-vn5xj
@Jason-vn5xj 2 күн бұрын
Real-time geology is bananas. Earth sciences class: "These canyons formed over millions of years of erosion." Blue Earth River: "Hold my beer."
@midwestmatthew9752
@midwestmatthew9752 2 күн бұрын
Little bit of water and a whole lot of time, or a little bit of time and a whole lot of water.
@stevewilson4718
@stevewilson4718 19 сағат бұрын
Polluted Earth River
@jasonasselin
@jasonasselin 2 күн бұрын
Never mind THIS dam, what about down river?
@JoeBLOWFHB
@JoeBLOWFHB 2 күн бұрын
The lake was full of sediment so it was pretty shallow. I heard a 2' water rise within the first few miles but within 10 miles it had dropped to a few inches.
@Ryan5oh7
@Ryan5oh7 2 күн бұрын
Mankato has a levee system specifically for this reason so they'll be fine
@senoje
@senoje 2 күн бұрын
Wow, look at all that beautiful green land and trees... If all of us could be so fortunate to live like this without the floods, it would be good.
@tracydean3678
@tracydean3678 2 күн бұрын
I agree. It is beautiful country though.
@seriejohnson698
@seriejohnson698 2 күн бұрын
Gorgeous.
@au_barb
@au_barb 2 күн бұрын
It's really a beautiful area.
@scottjarriel6761
@scottjarriel6761 2 күн бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't gone ahead and blown the damn open. The damn is destroyed already. But allowing it to redirect the water is only going to continue the erosion, and it's likely to take out the roadway bridge supports upstream, as well as the cafe.
@twotone3471
@twotone3471 2 күн бұрын
The release of the reservoir is occurring gradually. Once the level behind the dam reaches the level in front of it, I imagine they will do just that, if they even bother, seeing the river has a new channel already.
@DJFPhantomPhan
@DJFPhantomPhan 2 күн бұрын
But the dam isn’t destroyed, only partially failed. The biggest concern isn’t from erosion or the water, but from the massive amount of silt in the reservoir.
@jerryolson3408
@jerryolson3408 2 күн бұрын
The Dam built in 1905 Has survived intact even including the power house. The failure is due to a lack of attention to the downstream left embankment. This structure can be repaired an last another 120 years.
@jamesclark9347
@jamesclark9347 2 күн бұрын
American infrastructure is weak in a lot of areas and a lot of locations! Except where the wealth is.
@OrionsKelt
@OrionsKelt 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely magnificent topsoil
@vashlotus1891
@vashlotus1891 2 күн бұрын
The trees are literally holding on for life which is helping save the building from collapsing sooner. This dam is fubar.
@theboringchannel2027
@theboringchannel2027 2 күн бұрын
dam is standing fine, the embankment is fubar.
@localbod
@localbod 2 күн бұрын
Fubar must be a technical term now. 😅
@Fusion_4000
@Fusion_4000 2 күн бұрын
Truly a well built dam. Its like an unstoppable force have to go around an immovable object
@chrismoua6079
@chrismoua6079 2 күн бұрын
That's insane, hope the community recovers safely and quickly.
@ronnie32567
@ronnie32567 2 күн бұрын
Damn that whole house is gone!!!! It was hanging in there like a hair in a biscuit, I thought it would make it !!!!!!
@ronnie32567
@ronnie32567 2 күн бұрын
Well for your information, just upriver from the house the bank jutted out a little bit and that was turning the water back into the stream bed somewhat protecting the bank under the house. Might want to sharpen your powers of observation just a tad before you run off at the mouth
@ronnie32567
@ronnie32567 2 күн бұрын
@@elizabethchase6528well no S, but it had lasted for a couple days and the officials said the river had peaked so I was hopeful the the projection would hold out. But apparently I was wrong,. Anyone can be wrong every now and then, heck I was wrong one time a number of years ago
@ronnie32567
@ronnie32567 2 күн бұрын
@@elizabethchase6528now it would be kind of you to admit that my reasoning for being hopeful for the house to hold had merit
@cameracamera1319
@cameracamera1319 2 күн бұрын
Mailbox. Store. Garden. Holy smokes getting even worse. So sad.
@queenofspadz
@queenofspadz 2 күн бұрын
RIP tomato plants
@y0nd3r
@y0nd3r 2 күн бұрын
@@queenofspadz those are white balls of some kind that fell down the cliff at 1:26. Idk what they are, but I didn't see tomatoes.
@user-qi1js9zc1f
@user-qi1js9zc1f 2 күн бұрын
I was so sad to see that house go and my hopes are for the dam store
@MrJoker-
@MrJoker- 2 күн бұрын
Water doesn't play no games.
@jimmyjack7083
@jimmyjack7083 2 күн бұрын
What about water polo? Water balloon fights?
@Oi-Oi-Oi-420
@Oi-Oi-Oi-420 2 күн бұрын
No, I lost my house when I was 15. They say ''have compassion, they lost our store'' I say ''thank god for being alive, forget about the store and GET THE F--- OFF'' if youre down the river. Now. Forget the prayers and get off. The dam WILL go, it's a matter of hours.
@Oi-Oi-Oi-420
@Oi-Oi-Oi-420 2 күн бұрын
@@jimmyjack7083 hey I didnt think abt that!
@MrJoker-
@MrJoker- 2 күн бұрын
@@jimmyjack7083 that games played in water.
@Critical-Thinker895
@Critical-Thinker895 2 күн бұрын
Water carved out this country. If it wants to go somewhere, there is nothing to stop it.
@dentatusdentatus1592
@dentatusdentatus1592 2 күн бұрын
When I saw that erosion, I was like...."dam."
@Shawn_RHVAC
@Shawn_RHVAC 2 күн бұрын
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! THE POWER OF WATER!!!!
@gordonanderson3111
@gordonanderson3111 2 күн бұрын
The reason this dam was built with two wood covered spillways on the right side was that they could be blasted open to prevent this from happening on the left side. But those were covered over with cement long ago, and it would have still been possible but no one thought of grabbing some dynamite and opening them up - would have prevented this.
@aphextwin5712
@aphextwin5712 2 күн бұрын
All the tree trunks piled up at the dam are part of the problem. There are examples of structures to filter out large pieces of wood further upstream of choke points like dams. But with a lake, that would likely need to happen upstream from the lake itself.
@giclat1098
@giclat1098 2 күн бұрын
I don't know much about this sort of thing but from the start I've been wondering if either using fire of explosives to break the logjam would help. Such a lovely area and sorry to see the house gone! It held on valiantly!
@gordonanderson3111
@gordonanderson3111 2 күн бұрын
It does sound strange by today's standards yet many construction sites, miners, loggers and even famers used to have a few cases of dynamite in their sheds (store detonators seperatly at all times folks) and blowing out the log jam and one or two of the gates would have saved the shoreline and buildings: While this dam will have to be taken out now anyway.
@simonbyrd6518
@simonbyrd6518 2 күн бұрын
That's wild, seeing pieces of the wall falling off..
@cerberus1166
@cerberus1166 2 күн бұрын
my heart is broken for the family who im guessings childhood home has been washed away by now. i couldnt imagine how id feel.
@anthonytimpson4975
@anthonytimpson4975 2 күн бұрын
Holy shit the sediment load in that river is enormous.
@barneyrubble4293
@barneyrubble4293 2 күн бұрын
Probably all the sediment from behind the dam.
@anthonytimpson4975
@anthonytimpson4975 2 күн бұрын
@@barneyrubble4293 no doubt, I just wasn't expecting that level of blackness
@zetsumeinaito
@zetsumeinaito 2 күн бұрын
1:16 - 1:26 "My Cabbages!"
@anitamitchell3452
@anitamitchell3452 2 күн бұрын
Excellent drone work!! Thank you for your efforts. Well done.
@loragunning5394
@loragunning5394 2 күн бұрын
It's not a drone, it's a helicopter.
@CMDROldDuck
@CMDROldDuck 2 күн бұрын
Video is fascinating from a geological and even ecological perspective.
@rstats2127
@rstats2127 2 күн бұрын
The non-stop rain in the Midwest isn’t not giving them a break
@starshine3588
@starshine3588 2 күн бұрын
Rain is natural….dams are not. Dams slow the natural water flow and that’s what caused this situation. Don’t blame the rain. All the land ahead of that dam hasn’t eroded….but because the dam is there the water was being blocked so it had no choice but to carve a new path around the dam. Man caused this….not the weather….the weather naturally happens all the time and if that dam wasn’t there this new path wouldn’t have had to carve out a new path. Dams also cause water upstream to build up more which then also contributes to more flooding upstream….flooding that could have been prevented or minimal if the dam wasn’t there.
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 күн бұрын
@@starshine3588 😂😂🤣🤣
@EricCarlson-bz2pt
@EricCarlson-bz2pt 2 күн бұрын
Cloud seeders.
@rstats2127
@rstats2127 2 күн бұрын
@@starshine3588 are you serious our do you have reading comprehension issues? Rain is natural? thanks for that tidbit of information. Man I hope certain people don’t breed as we are doomed and the movie “Idiocracy” is coming true!
@rstats2127
@rstats2127 2 күн бұрын
@@EricCarlson-bz2pt where do you get your tinfoil hats?
@MrMojo271
@MrMojo271 2 күн бұрын
It’s a mostly peaceful flood, though
@starguy2718
@starguy2718 2 күн бұрын
😄😄😄😄
@cgeorge6591
@cgeorge6591 2 күн бұрын
Looking at the strata, you can see how water can make a canyon in a relatively short period of time.
@HomesteadDNA
@HomesteadDNA 2 күн бұрын
Water giveth, and water taketh away.
@georgiabobcat8695
@georgiabobcat8695 2 күн бұрын
Looks like its fully blown out now... Wow
@Gfysimpletons
@Gfysimpletons 2 күн бұрын
I didn’t see michelle obama bending over there?
@TBATG
@TBATG 2 күн бұрын
This place CANNOT be rebuilt, that's a whole road and land swallowed up by rushing waters.
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 2 күн бұрын
Yes it can, but they need to get rid of that dam first, and restore the river to it's natural flow
@TBATG
@TBATG 2 күн бұрын
@@CaptainRon1913 what about the land though?
@josephpearlman4010
@josephpearlman4010 2 күн бұрын
@@CaptainRon1913 Do you really think any insurance would pay for a half million truckloads of fill and then get it certified to build a house on?
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 күн бұрын
Well yes it can. It was built in the early 1900s. So you think it can't be rebuilt?
@josephpearlman4010
@josephpearlman4010 2 күн бұрын
@@choppermike3329 It was built on stable land. They would have to bring in fill, pack it and probably some sort of wall. It can be done but I doubt you will ever see it done. No one would be willing to pay for that.
@ExploringAI42
@ExploringAI42 2 күн бұрын
I really thought the erosion was slowing down yesterday and was hoping that house was going to make it.... Hopefully the store makes it.
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 2 күн бұрын
They have lost the house I hope the caffe doesn’t get it as well😢.
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT 2 күн бұрын
Nature finds a way.
@F-zi2ui
@F-zi2ui 2 күн бұрын
And other times: Nature makes the way
@RJ4O4
@RJ4O4 2 күн бұрын
SO SAD. the loss of that house and now it's getting too close for comfort to the store ! WHY aren't they working on unplugging that dam some?
@CountryAndProud
@CountryAndProud 2 күн бұрын
You think property is worth people's lives? If you have a safe way of doing it. Go do it, don't expect others to risk their own lives over property..
@daveanderson177
@daveanderson177 2 күн бұрын
the new conference given yesterday stated that the companies contacted to remove the log jams were concerned about the crew safety and not chomping at the bit to put heavy equipment on the dam structure. Plus the dam was NOT holding back a HUGE amount of water. Not sure what the proper terminology is but the amount of water flowing through the dam was equal to the river flow.
@rchuyck
@rchuyck 2 күн бұрын
Its too late, the flow is around the dam now.
@Twillen113
@Twillen113 2 күн бұрын
At this point the water level is lower than the dam outlets. For the dam to be used again, they have to fill in the new channel...
@theboringchannel2027
@theboringchannel2027 2 күн бұрын
unpugging the dam would do nothing to stop the water going around the dam.
@nvs4u2
@nvs4u2 2 күн бұрын
The dam DIDN’T fail. It HELD!! The river merely went around it and created a new course.
@OPCentraSpike
@OPCentraSpike 2 күн бұрын
Was supposed to be replaced in 1972, here we are in 2024 "OMuhGURR"
@phillipzx3754
@phillipzx3754 2 күн бұрын
Same as our power grid, which needed to be upgraded at least 50 years ago.
@faithhupy4983
@faithhupy4983 2 күн бұрын
Actually the dam is doing quite well
@MerrimanDevonshire
@MerrimanDevonshire 2 күн бұрын
It's just a few twigs in the chute, what can it do? 😢
@marknicolich5789
@marknicolich5789 2 күн бұрын
If you go look at pictures and see what the normal flow is for this river it's amazing how much more water is currently moving through it
@bengaltiger96
@bengaltiger96 2 күн бұрын
The water is like “forget this, I’m going around.”
@cajuncrackerranch7990
@cajuncrackerranch7990 2 күн бұрын
Mother Nature always wins. We humans are but mere fleas. When she has had enough… she will go around!
@helenjones568
@helenjones568 2 күн бұрын
Awesome drone footage! I hope it stops before that store. Maybe the forces at that point is further down.
@wayneisanamerican
@wayneisanamerican 2 күн бұрын
actually, the dam didn't fail, the surrounding bank did, amazing they didn't plan for some auxiliary spillway and or rain storms.
@gitchfitness6591
@gitchfitness6591 2 күн бұрын
For those new, that white store was about 2 houses and a small electrical plant back. That erosion is massive.
@DJFPhantomPhan
@DJFPhantomPhan 2 күн бұрын
Amazing how everyone in the comments is an engineer. What are the chances? 🙄
@busslayer4790
@busslayer4790 2 күн бұрын
Luckily for us there has been a lul and they can help out after they provided their analysis on homemade sub and container ship propulsion operation failures.
@joek511
@joek511 2 күн бұрын
So how fast did the Grand Canyon form?
@james_robnett
@james_robnett 2 күн бұрын
10s of millions of years, go out side with a shovel, let me know which is harder to dig through, top soil or bedrock. I'll wait.
@glennterry5476
@glennterry5476 2 күн бұрын
Man I hope nobody got hurt. Sorry to see that happening.
@januarysdaughter6664
@januarysdaughter6664 2 күн бұрын
THE GARDEN! These folks have been through too much. First their house and now the garden and possibly the store! My heart goes out to you. I've had losses like this. You will be ok as long as you still have each other! ❤❤❤ ❤❤❤
@johneken2056
@johneken2056 2 күн бұрын
Amazing that a state government seems helpless.
@frostyhkd
@frostyhkd 2 күн бұрын
…what did you want them to do?
@mikeprice4103
@mikeprice4103 2 күн бұрын
If you have some info on how to control nature call a state government
@Rebirth602
@Rebirth602 2 күн бұрын
Lol, just get here or what?
@stevemiller6923
@stevemiller6923 2 күн бұрын
Yes. If the state government had only taken some action to prevent so much rain, this never would have happened.
@transmitterguy478
@transmitterguy478 2 күн бұрын
The house is gone!
@deanoimo
@deanoimo 2 күн бұрын
The whole bridge is next. just watch!
@thomasmiller5057
@thomasmiller5057 2 күн бұрын
Prayers for the survival of The Dam Store I’m so sorry to see the house is gone
@beverlyaustin924
@beverlyaustin924 2 күн бұрын
Dispite mankinds attemps to block waterways and distupt natures natural course, in the end, Mother Nature ALWAYS wins.
@charliewaters5289
@charliewaters5289 2 күн бұрын
Why are you calling it a dam failure? The dam is the only thing still there!
@jasonfrancis1736
@jasonfrancis1736 2 күн бұрын
?.........
@markusgorelli5278
@markusgorelli5278 2 күн бұрын
Comments say that since the river appears to have cut its own channel completely, that the dam isn't doing anything as far as its purpose is concerned which is to hold back the water.
@HappyHarryHardon
@HappyHarryHardon 2 күн бұрын
This is a spillway failure not a dam failure. The dam and its abutments are still there. This is a classic overtopping, not a dam failure.
@jonathanbuyno9461
@jonathanbuyno9461 2 күн бұрын
Ok bro
@BradHouser
@BradHouser 2 күн бұрын
What Spillway? I don't see one in the "before" pictures. It appears the designers thought it would be OK to let it overtop the concrete part. The ground didn't agree.
@HappyHarryHardon
@HappyHarryHardon 2 күн бұрын
@@BradHouser the spill was was a tiny opening outside of the west abutment and the concrete that is seen in the before photos is “the spillway” that was poured over the bedrock channeling the overspill back into the river. Once the concrete on the bedrock washed away the water took the path of least resistance which was not the bedrock. The soil began to wash away farther west taking pressure off the dam.
@stevemiller6923
@stevemiller6923 2 күн бұрын
@@HappyHarryHardon Good luck on trying to bring reality into a youtube discussion.
@exploreraa983
@exploreraa983 2 күн бұрын
I hope those poor people that own that neat little coffee shop had business insurance. they seem like wonderful people.
@RealCult
@RealCult Күн бұрын
I’m thankful for the time I spent smoking blunts on this bridge. It’s a true Mankato Gem everyone loves. ❤ proud of the dam holding up under this amount of pressure. One of the greatest dams ever built. First hydroelectric dam built actually. This is historical.
@MR-xc3sw
@MR-xc3sw 2 күн бұрын
The dam didn't fail the operators failed the dam . Removing debris is top priority at every dam on the planet. If all dam operators were this incompetent there wouldn't be a dam standing anywhere.
@Xdonald331
@Xdonald331 2 күн бұрын
Probably DEI hires....
@EricCarlson-bz2pt
@EricCarlson-bz2pt 2 күн бұрын
The builders of the dam didn't account for the increase in cloud seeding.
@mikeprice4103
@mikeprice4103 2 күн бұрын
@@Xdonald331 trumptard alert!
@choppermike3329
@choppermike3329 2 күн бұрын
@@Xdonald331 😂😂
@mikeprice4103
@mikeprice4103 2 күн бұрын
@@EricCarlson-bz2pt You one those flat earth chemtrail lizard people types? Cool!
@maopticallabtech
@maopticallabtech 2 күн бұрын
Better get your stufff out the Damm store eating that bank away fast...If going to save anything better do it now.
@lindaadelwerth8042
@lindaadelwerth8042 2 күн бұрын
@maopticallabtech They had family and friends help get everything out of the store already
@jerryolson3408
@jerryolson3408 2 күн бұрын
The Dam built in 1905 Has survived intact even including the power house. The failure is due to a lack of attention to the downstream left embankment. This structure can be repaired an last another 120 years.
@CPcamaro
@CPcamaro 2 күн бұрын
Quite a bummer for the folks whose home no longer exists.
@WayneMacLean-lj8lb
@WayneMacLean-lj8lb 2 күн бұрын
Looks like it is down to the bedrock which is a good thing as long as the water does not rise above it. Which hopefully it won't do the people who lost the home will not lose the business store also. As bad as it is compared to what the people were used to living around there. Once the dam is fixed it will be a very nice looking area even before the dam let go.
@KAzik10001
@KAzik10001 2 күн бұрын
Build back better update.
@barneyrubble4293
@barneyrubble4293 2 күн бұрын
The river has decided that it doesn't need a dam there.
@nnonotnow
@nnonotnow 2 күн бұрын
That shows the amazing amount of rain 🌧️ ☔ that fell upstream.
@denise8242
@denise8242 2 күн бұрын
First it was the I 35 bridge, now a dam. Our infrastructure is failing while we send all our money to Ukraine!
@user-uv7up4vg6i
@user-uv7up4vg6i 2 күн бұрын
Not true. The situation is not a case of either or. Americans do not like paying taxes and are apparently quite happy with failing roads, broken down bridges etc etc. The money sent to Ukraine is a fraction of the money that could and should be spent on America's roads,rail, bridges etc etc.
@TheGiggleMasterP
@TheGiggleMasterP 2 күн бұрын
Looks like the water doesnt even care about the dam anymore. River will be drained in another two days.
@rona4960
@rona4960 2 күн бұрын
It's a river. It has water all the time
@crysgamb2818
@crysgamb2818 2 күн бұрын
This is absolutely unreal. I've never seen anything like it!!WOW!
@adammurdoch1708
@adammurdoch1708 2 күн бұрын
this should make decommissioning the dam structure easier as getting rid of sediment buildup is a headache the failure has done it for them
@starshine3588
@starshine3588 2 күн бұрын
If this river had never been dammed then this wouldn’t have happened. If you look at the land before the dam it is not eroding the land because the river was allowed to flow naturally….but once the river reached the dam it had to carve a new path out around the dam because the dam wouldn’t let the river flow naturally. Rivers are also more prone to flooding when they can’t flow naturally….the dam causes the water to build up and rise higher and higher if it doesn’t let it through faster.
@stardust949
@stardust949 2 күн бұрын
What's happening down river from this?! Thank God that bridge is still standing!
@Revenant_Knight
@Revenant_Knight 2 күн бұрын
This was a small dam with a silted reservoir. There won’t be much flooding down stream, but the silt will dirty the waters for a while. Ultimately, this dam was probably approaching the end I of it’s life anyway.
@sprengron
@sprengron 2 күн бұрын
the loss of the dam has not had a dramatic impact downriver
@rodfreess6019
@rodfreess6019 2 күн бұрын
They said a sudden collapse would only be 3-4" difference at Mankato, so this cutting through the bedrock overnight probably didn't make a 1/2" difference in Mankato. Obviously bigger closer to the dam.
@hansmuller3604
@hansmuller3604 2 күн бұрын
not much, the water found a bypass so there is no water held back and no risk of a flushflood
@J3scribe
@J3scribe 2 күн бұрын
Tragedy and personal consequences aside, the natural process of evasion and erosion of the water stream is absolutely fascinating. A lot will be learned here, and future engineering and infrastructure will benefit from it.
@melanienewberry2805
@melanienewberry2805 2 күн бұрын
That’s sad. Yesterday the family’s house was still there. I feel terrible for them. I hope the dam store doesn’t get washed away.
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