Ersatz M10: Panthers in Disguise

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2 жыл бұрын

In WW2, during the Ardennes offensive, Germany would employ deceptive tactics to gain an advantage over the Allies. One of the ways they would attempt to accomplish this goal would be to disguise Panthers as American M10 tank destroyers.

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@Ralphieboy Жыл бұрын

I recall my dad telling me that some Germans gave the game away by inquiring about the location of the "petrol" dumps...

@coatofarms4439 Жыл бұрын

I imagine your dad opened fire the second they used a commie word like that.

@NoNameTV. 3 ай бұрын

Don’t know how to tell you this but I think your dad just smoked a bunch of British soldiers

@user-rc4nw6xy5p Жыл бұрын

The Allies also used captured German tanks - trucks - half tracks. One U.S. unit these vehicles was call the Rag Tag Unit. The U.S, painted the U.S. white star on the German vehicles they captured.

@josborn321 Жыл бұрын

The 83rd Divison, the Rag Tag Circus

@jesuschristyourlordandsavior Жыл бұрын

Nice video and good info. I'll be looking forward to future uploads. 👍

@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Жыл бұрын

"Favourite horrific pastime". I can see a an alien defense scientist stating that to his bosses.

@StutleyConstable Жыл бұрын

'The Tanks are Coming' is a great B movie from 1951. In it they use a modified M10 in place of German tanks. This works surprisingly well given its general resemblance to the Panther. Overall, the movie is pretty good. The acting is not great, and the plot is a little thin, but it does have spirit and the tank battles are some of the best I've seen. One of particular note is filmed in the bed of stream. I don't recall any other movie depicting a battle in a stream. What really hits home for me is that the movie was partly filmed on Ft. Knox, KY and I actually recognized the stream in which the battle took place. Worth a watch if you've got some beer and pizza to keep you company.

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Cool. Thanks for the recommendation.

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@damianousley8833 Жыл бұрын

@@huiyinghong3073It depends on your views as to what is humane treatment of your fellow human beings. It is a stance to be ruthless but you live by being ruthless you can also die when the enemy uses ruthless tactics against your stubbon defence. During WW2 the rules of war, the Hague and the Geneva convention were not observed by the Japanese and on the eastern front there was no observance of the Hague convention or the Geneva convention by both the Soviets and the Germans. Who did the Germans prefer to surrender to? the Western allies. The Japanese Bushido code was brutal to enemy and its civilian populations as well as its own civil population which was to commit suicide or die in futile military actions for little or no gain. With the flame thrower tanks used by the western allies against the German's, efforts were made to let the defenders retreat or surrender rather than use this lethal weapon. Remember that Germany introduced both gas warfare and flame throwers in WW1 and used flamethrowers in WW2. But if they were not going to retreat or surrender then it was deployed with its horrific demise on those stoic defenders, better that than the needless death of your own troops attempting to take the strong point by other means. You have to be carefull changing into an enemy uniform as you may get fired upon by your own side with physical and mortal consequences. .

@paulguzman1634 Жыл бұрын

You beat me to it! This video triggered the memory of that mock Panther in the movie. Great tank flick, one of my favorites even with all the cheese of the day!

@cheswick617 Жыл бұрын

@@huiyinghong3073 LOLOL...well from a communists point of view, You may be right because they refuse to abide by the Geneva convention's rules of war. However civilized countries observe the rules of war...the Japanese refused to abide by the Geneva convention's rules of war...Many of their leaders paid the Ultimate price for failure to do so. As did many of Hitler's Henchmen.

@frankaaaa384 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Great story.I heard of this story before but you gave me new information. Thank you.😀😃

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.

@FimiliarGalaxy9 Жыл бұрын

This was awesome. I clicked just cause I was curious about the panther but stayed for the whole thing!

@damianousley8833 Жыл бұрын

Yes you can assume the enemy's markings and uniform but if you are caught you have no defence under the Hague convention on the rules governing war. If caught you can be summarily shot as a spy or illegal combatant. Given that both sides took this risk on a limited basis in WW2, it was only used in espionage acts or resistance groups. Generally the ruse only works for a very short time and the offending vehicle or vessel generally came under fire.

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@HubertM4A2 Жыл бұрын

Most interesting video Ive seen this week

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Jabberstax Жыл бұрын

We all know that the Germans weren't too concerned about commiting war crimes.

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@coatofarms4439 Жыл бұрын

By that point there was no rules that could be broken, either Germany wins and gets away with it or they die.

@percyblok6014 Жыл бұрын

It was the ALLIES that leveled the Abbey at Monte Casino. Germans only took up positions within once it was leveled by the ALLIES. It was Field Marshal vom Rundstedt during the Market Garden operation that allowed the Brits 3 hours cease fire to evacuate their wounded. No side has clean hands in war , but the stereotype of the vicious Hun is jist propagandized Western bullshit.

@yordemiir5562 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting Video, keep it up 👍

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the encouraging comment. It really means a lot.

@freedeoxide5179 Жыл бұрын

I still dont get why graf spee trying to look Like allied ship was fine but the panther was a war crime

@ROBSHOTZ Жыл бұрын

The old saying: all's fair in love and war should apply here.

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@coatofarms4439 Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t really matter if it’s a warcrime by that point, unless Germany wins, the Ersatz M10 will be the least of the their worries in regards to warcrimes.

@richsmith7200 Жыл бұрын

I'm building a Tamiya Sherman doctored up as a Tiger, just for fun.

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

That’s cool. Cyber-hobby released an M4A2 75 Beutepanzer a while back. Dragon also has a kit of the Ersatz M10 and Takom just released the Ersatz M7.

@richsmith7200 Жыл бұрын

@@thehistronomicon7544 I still think some of the best fake Tigers were in 'Kelly's Heroes '....T34/85's, I think...

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@richsmith7200 Жыл бұрын

@@huiyinghong3073 there are rules of war. Unfortunately, they get violated frequently. Plus, the victor writes the history, which is often somewhat cloudy.

@rayseaman6204 Жыл бұрын

These are Pirate tactics. Put them ALL in an Iron Frame and let the birds have them !

@balls9052 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call the panther slow unless in reverse. The M-10 wasn’t the M-18. The M-10 wasn’t that fast.

@mattharrell6880 Жыл бұрын

Great info and we'll done. One suggestion if I may? Maybe get closer to the mic or get a shielded because you are kind of hard to hear.

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.I have no idea what I’m doing and am learning as I go.

@dave8599 Жыл бұрын

Sounds loud and clear to me. Great job. Some video folks turn the volume very low when recording such that you cant hear them on replay. Your video has good volume. slight echo effect, but I can hear it fine. I appreciate the good volume. very informative, thank you.

@thehistronomicon7544 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

@huiyinghong3073 Жыл бұрын

Well the Americans can do the same to the nazis too. There's no rules in war, what matters most is whether u win or lose.

@mattharrell6880 Жыл бұрын

@@dave8599good for you, but I have lost about 85% of my hearing from weapons firing, explosives and/or infections from destroyed ear drums. I was speaking from my perspective.

@Lord.Kiltridge Жыл бұрын

No inanimate object *_is_* a crime of any kind. However people associated with the use of some things, might be criminals. Therefor the Ersatz M10 is not a crime, but the occupants of _any_ vehicle masking it's nationality, might criminals if they take it into battle.

@gordon295 Жыл бұрын

Oooooh dear ...LOL I remember Movies like The guns of Navarone ... where American and English troops got dressed in German Uniforms.

@HootOwl513 Жыл бұрын

In that case, they were Commandos. Hitler had a ''Kill All Commandos On Capture'' order out anyway. That was a sabotage mission, so they could expext no mercy under the Geneva Convention. Besides being a fictional Hollywood movie, to boot.

@howardgoff2420 Жыл бұрын

Good information on this video but you really need to work on your audio. Very muffle voice and hard to hear. If you worked on this be a perfect video. Just words for thought.

@ditzydoo4378 Жыл бұрын

Yes, Ersatz M10 Panthers in disguise is a war crime in the same way German soldiers dressed as U.S solders and MP"s during the Battle of the Bulge were summerly shot on discovery. This form of deceit is outlined as a crime in the Hauge convention as well as many other war doctrines outlining the behavior between combatants. This is why it is outlined that it is permissible to use an enemy's weapons against said enemy as long as they (the vehicles) are remarked with the capturing combatants' national markings. The Germans used a lot of captured vehicles and marked them with Iron Crosses. The Allies similarly remarked vehicles. in fact, one US Divion (the 83rd Infantry Division) labeled, The Rag-Tag Circus was mainly made up of captured German vehicles re-painted O.D. Green with White US stars.

@coatofarms4439 Жыл бұрын

Given Germany’s other activities in the war things like this are nothing in regards to warcrimes.

@percyblok6014 Жыл бұрын

Bet you cry to the referees a lot...

@gabriel.b9036 Жыл бұрын

@@percyblok6014 Of course you have a Russian flag as a pfp.