Seiko Showdown: SPB455 and SPB451 vs. First Generation - Which Reigns Supreme?

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@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
Check out the 62MAS_TER high end video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrGEn72b2KnUmIk.html
@ccoffin1333
@ccoffin1333 25 күн бұрын
Good review! The “3 Days” on the dial is not necessary
@philipwillingham5950
@philipwillingham5950 24 күн бұрын
for real. makes it sound like we are kids. "dont forget, its 3 days power reserve kids!" ....smh..
@patmans88
@patmans88 23 күн бұрын
Just like orient putting water resistant on all their dials. It's a basic feature that doesn't need to take up real estate to describe.
@Apex_Apeq
@Apex_Apeq 15 күн бұрын
For me it's okay. don't forget *chronometer certified" on some Swiss watch. Those look great for me .
@jonirwin7316
@jonirwin7316 8 күн бұрын
Why did you end your message with "smh"? Makes zero sense.​@@philipwillingham5950
@JacobLawrenceCanning
@JacobLawrenceCanning 13 күн бұрын
I much prefer the date placement on the new version. Looks great without cutting into the lume.
@kimchiwasabee
@kimchiwasabee 23 күн бұрын
Love the date window at 4:30!! Perfect colorway. Chef's kiss.
@JB-qt8eh
@JB-qt8eh 24 күн бұрын
I got my sbdc053 for $670 US, 6years ago, still have it at the moment. At this current price point, lots of competition with better movement and less qc issues. I do give seiko credit for beautiful original designs but I hope they also focus on their qc issues.
@eliotsalandybrown
@eliotsalandybrown 11 күн бұрын
🤩 Great video. Thanks for spotting details others had missed and taking such HQ shots 🙏
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 10 күн бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@Harvin87
@Harvin87 25 күн бұрын
The blue looks stunning! I may pull the trigger on that one
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 24 күн бұрын
I agree, it's such a great shade of blue...but then again, that black one looks awesome as well.
@ajmarion
@ajmarion 20 күн бұрын
Blue one looks amazing
@kha6905
@kha6905 18 күн бұрын
blue is my
@gg.komorebi
@gg.komorebi 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for Sharing the new Seiko 👍
@tab3Gator
@tab3Gator 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the content. When I hear that music, I know it’s about to get good.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
haha HYPE!
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 25 күн бұрын
I love the secret measurement “poink” sound lol 😅
@EverydayWatchGuy
@EverydayWatchGuy 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth overview of these new Seiko 63MAS divers. They do look more refined and could have more comfort on the wrist.
@micaljimenez7381
@micaljimenez7381 24 күн бұрын
Nice old vintage look,very good and nice watch
@mezcalycafe8702
@mezcalycafe8702 25 күн бұрын
Blue or black is a must for me
@pk1342
@pk1342 25 күн бұрын
So is the caseback essentially the same height but with a flat kanagawa wave logo? I also noticed the chamfered and polished bezel edge from earlier press shots, really helps to outline the watch.
@ravipanjini1253
@ravipanjini1253 25 күн бұрын
I am looking forward to trying this on in person. I sold my SPB143, lovely watch but wore too large on my wrist. The SJE is just dang spendy or I'd go for that.
@the5th2000
@the5th2000 24 күн бұрын
I have an SPB297 and i love It. These are very very nice, a definite improvement
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Great to hear!
@timmovanderput6109
@timmovanderput6109 24 күн бұрын
Thanks, nice review ! that date window , yikes
@ajmarion
@ajmarion 20 күн бұрын
That blue one is sweet! I’d probably go for the MM200 GMT first at this price point, but I’d love to pick up that blue 63MAS at some point
@eliotsalandybrown
@eliotsalandybrown 24 күн бұрын
I like your new visual setup very much. Congratulations 🎉
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
thanks its an ai background I designed using an app. I will be using it for awhile when I do intros.
@Onehotdogplease1
@Onehotdogplease1 25 күн бұрын
have they managed to line up the bezels on this one? I have the 147 62MAS and the lume pip settles about .5 mm passed 12 o'clock - annoying
@Apex_Apeq
@Apex_Apeq 15 күн бұрын
Hi sir. I'm your fan. Please make a comparison video between bb58 & spb455. I have a bb 58. and just thought about buying this spb 455 because it looks more interesting with the case design and the color. Thanks a lot sir. ❤
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 24 күн бұрын
If I was looking for a straight up dive watch the blue is very good.
@MotorcyclistDiaries
@MotorcyclistDiaries 25 күн бұрын
I really like your reviews always watch until the very end, very neat and detailed. Only one thing keeps me away from mid range 62 mas watches is 6R35 movement, with it's weird unpredictable accuracy. Hope they do well with this movement, and could finally compete with mid range Swiss 80 powermatic movement in terms of stability and accuracy.
@jlarsson1978
@jlarsson1978 24 күн бұрын
For that price you should get applied indexes.
@pk1342
@pk1342 24 күн бұрын
They apply indices on cheaper watches, SEIKO do this to eliminate the risk of indices from falling off under the stresses of Pro diving.
@camels3269
@camels3269 25 күн бұрын
The title says 63mas, perhaps you should fix that ;) On-topic: I got my SPB453 a couple of days ago and it is an improvement over the 143 in every way. The dial looks much cleaner with the added hour marker and the date window is barely noticeable. The '3 days' on the dial is unnecessary, but if you ask me, so is 'Chronometer Officially Certified', which uses much more dial space. The date and three days text seem to be a dealbreaker for many, and I can understand that these features seem prominent if you are only looking at pictures or macro shots. When you are actually handling the watch, you barely notice either. The bracelet and clasp still leave a lot to be desired at this price point so I cant wait for an aftermarket bracelet or perhaps I should just get an Artem sailcloth. Love the upgrades Seiko!
@kimchiwasabee
@kimchiwasabee 23 күн бұрын
Congrats. And i like the date at 4:30 a lot. W/o the index at 3,a watch looks stupid to me.
@Underfighter73
@Underfighter73 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this; very informative. Am I weird for liking the date aperture location and shape?😃
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
nope its 50/50 from what I have read so far
@saltywet
@saltywet 24 күн бұрын
Great video. Really appreciate the detailed comparison and on-screen graphics!
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Jason-hv4eu
@Jason-hv4eu 24 күн бұрын
Good video and review! I like the new release.
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 25 күн бұрын
For me, the small round date window at 4:30 is a disqualifier. Thanks for your review. You always do a great job.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
Really? if you live with it its well hidden you hardly notice it. But I get it! thanks for watching
@Not-a-bot222
@Not-a-bot222 25 күн бұрын
Previously owning the Sinn 556 and marathon MSAR, the window isn’t noticeable unless you look for it. Especially after the first week on wrist
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 25 күн бұрын
@@Not-a-bot222 yep...I have a hard time even noticing it in the video unless I look for it.
@malzahar33
@malzahar33 25 күн бұрын
I think people just over react about it just because it is a new think. I don't find any problem with this location
@malzahar33
@malzahar33 25 күн бұрын
No matching date wheel with the dial on the special edition is a pity
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 24 күн бұрын
Great review.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 23 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Bonatno
@Bonatno 24 күн бұрын
Great review as usual
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
I appreciate that
@fethryduck
@fethryduck 24 күн бұрын
Is the accuracy still horrible?
@christianaviles2199
@christianaviles2199 25 күн бұрын
When they release the grey without the faux patina on a bracelet, as a true SPB143 replacement, I'll really be interested.
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 24 күн бұрын
they will...as a limited edition and 500 more 😀
@fernandoguerrero7327
@fernandoguerrero7327 13 күн бұрын
Your reviews are always very detailed. Difference if any between spb239 and this new guilt model.
@BrokeWatchFanatic
@BrokeWatchFanatic 24 күн бұрын
I've had bad experience with the 6R35 and 6R54 movements. They just randomly decide to go out of spec (by a huge margin). I'm talking about one to two minutes off a day. I don't think I can trust this one either... So far the SLA models have been good to me, and one day I might try an SJE.
@jim.anchower
@jim.anchower 24 күн бұрын
Same deal for me after ~3 years of ownership with my SPB. I picked up the SJE093 but still have my SPB, which I got serviced.
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 25 күн бұрын
These are so nice! Hard to decide between the special edition and the blue
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
the special edition is really special in the flesh. Looks so great in all light! the scuba blue is very dark and can look like a black watch at times.
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 25 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch Damn you...You make me want both ..Off the record ..I'm actually picking up the navigator GMT tomorrow..I know it's over priced ..But man I just have to have it..🤣
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
Navigator gmt is awesome! congrats ahead of time!
@Rch_P
@Rch_P 25 күн бұрын
Curious if the uncle seiko bracelet for my SPB147 would fit this. I’m sure someone will try it soon enough.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
I'm guessing it wont fit.
@bobbyjoebbq3657
@bobbyjoebbq3657 22 күн бұрын
I have ALL the iterations of the previous version, and have just got the SPB455. The very small changes to the watch head dimensions are surprisingly noticeable on the wrist, it does wear a little smaller, is a tad more comfortable on my 7.5" wrist and the bracelet is definitely an improvement. No mention on the Seiko website or your review of a 'super hard coating' on the case, I believe most of the the previous versions did. Any info on that?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 22 күн бұрын
Yes it has dia Shield coating. I put it in the measurements section when I did the diameter
@bobbyjoebbq3657
@bobbyjoebbq3657 21 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch Sorry, didn't see that. Doh! Thank you for replying.
@1250GSX
@1250GSX 23 күн бұрын
Maybe the 3 days on the dial of this one refers to how often you have to set the time.
@domokun938
@domokun938 24 күн бұрын
I read the link about MEMS but it seems some portions were deleted? It doesn't state MEMS there
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Yes it's very strange he deleted his photos. But you can see the post he created the tags are 6 r35 service and mems. And the first commenter saying wow Seiko can achieve so much precision with mems thank you for sharing. It was posted last year and I did see them they were very crude memes technology it wasn't like the grand Seiko pallet fork and escape wheel quality wise. I did not have rights to the photo so I couldn't post it I should have just saved it on my computer
@speedmaster6781
@speedmaster6781 24 күн бұрын
Ok. I have the SPB143 which I love. Great review . Do I need to this watch?????
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Since you love the 143 already no need.
@daveLin104
@daveLin104 12 күн бұрын
Would love the 143 in this size with the slimmer shorter link bracelet, but 3 micro adjust.
@tylerhun87
@tylerhun87 24 күн бұрын
02:39 From this angle the hour marker does not align with the minute marker @ 1200 thats kinda biggie :(
@tilio9380
@tilio9380 24 күн бұрын
Seiko made it abundantly clear that they don't give a hoot about QC on these mid to low end models.
@tylerhun87
@tylerhun87 24 күн бұрын
@@tilio9380 now that is a problem, since even a 100 dollar skagen watch aligns perfectly, if not, they take it back
@ejames6431
@ejames6431 23 күн бұрын
Good review! 👍
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 22 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it
@bigyuan3168
@bigyuan3168 25 күн бұрын
backward wiggle on the bezel still exist on this new version :(
@mariog7213
@mariog7213 24 күн бұрын
I'm really liking the black and blue and not sure which I'd pick...definitely not the gilt though. I can't wait for that fad to disappear
@thetattedpharmacist3215
@thetattedpharmacist3215 25 күн бұрын
I hate the round date aperture and its placement. A 6 o’clock or 3 o’clock date window would be fine. The 4:30 sucks
@roryoconnor3425
@roryoconnor3425 24 күн бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more! Such a delicate and mindful placement, totally melds into the dial. I hate 3 and 6!
@KV_55555
@KV_55555 19 күн бұрын
Removing the 3 days, X logo & the date at 4:30, put it at 3 or just remove it at all
@Apex_Apeq
@Apex_Apeq 15 күн бұрын
I think a Pagani design will match with u
@KV_55555
@KV_55555 8 күн бұрын
@@Apex_Apeq with me? What do you mean?
@greenerick
@greenerick 24 күн бұрын
I own a Seiko LX titanium spring drive, Omega Seamaster, and Damasko dk32 submarine steel hardened case. The movement on the Seiko 63mas is satisfactory, but I am concerned about its accuracy. Anyway, great video
@simonwright6882
@simonwright6882 24 күн бұрын
I'm very tempted by these although I've heard that there's a 30th anniversary skx in the pipeline. I'm very interested learning the level of spec for this.
@pk1342
@pk1342 24 күн бұрын
From tmwc or anyone else?
@simonwright6882
@simonwright6882 24 күн бұрын
@@pk1342 Only Russell tmwc .
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
what is tmwc, a new leak source? as for a new skx I've been hearing about it but could be just rumors. It came out in 96 right so 2026 30 year? I can see that happening. Seiko always looking for an anniversary excuse to make a watch.
@pk1342
@pk1342 24 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch I haven't seen any reputable leak source about an SKX but there was a video from the mad watch collector recently speculating about an SKX 30th anniversary reinterpration - I was wondering if this is what OP was referring to.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
ahh ok
@mattsmiley8156
@mattsmiley8156 25 күн бұрын
Definitely needed another low beat rate high dollar watch that’s almost identical to the previous ones they’ve put out.
@ekadjaja3090
@ekadjaja3090 24 күн бұрын
The hour hands doesnt align perfectly with the marker😫, when the minute hits 60min mark the hour hand is a bit late by 1-2 minute.
@user-lz7on4os6w
@user-lz7on4os6w 19 күн бұрын
What SLA model is it in the beginning of the video??? It looks mostly like SLA073 but fully black dial with Marine master name right under Seiko logo... what could that be??? Please help to find exact ref!
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 19 күн бұрын
Oh that is the new SLA Marinemaster coming soon stay tuned.
@user-lz7on4os6w
@user-lz7on4os6w 18 күн бұрын
@EscapementWatch thanks for a hint! I've found announced model) Please ask Seiko to release exact design in Titanium. It wold be a genius hit of the market!!! Seiko need it to close losses of LX Line.
@petermartin9494
@petermartin9494 20 күн бұрын
2:38 Are the hands not both pointing exactly at 12?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 20 күн бұрын
yes it looks like a hair off. But interestingly when I go to 1-2minutes pasted 12 you can see the hour hand tip then passes 12. Could be an illusion of the handset (half polish half brushed)
@mig1552
@mig1552 5 күн бұрын
Do Seiko offer any reasonably priced diver with ceramic bezel insert?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 5 күн бұрын
These 3 Seikos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mreAf7mJl5bMnok.html
@mig1552
@mig1552 5 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch thanks mate :) too bad that citizen don’t have divers with ceramic insert. It’s must have for a beater watch for me..
@carlosluisdiaz5744
@carlosluisdiaz5744 24 күн бұрын
I have an SPB143. Do you think I "need" this one?. I love your video like always but I will love a more face to face video with the spb143... A battle?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thank you very much for your review
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
I'd say no you don't "need" this one if you already have a 63mas.
@carlosluisdiaz5744
@carlosluisdiaz5744 24 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch thank you from me wallet. Have a very nice day
@AmcoAutoGlass
@AmcoAutoGlass 20 күн бұрын
awesome vid
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
Ok I just checked the link for the proof picture and for some reason the watchmaker took down his photo's of the escape wheel and pallet fork. He posted last year in May and I thought it would always be up. No idea why he edited his post and deleted it. BUTTTTTTT you can see the 1st commenter saying, "Thanks for sharing. Precision part manufacturing to the tolerances seiko achieve with MEMS is amazing tech." One day when another watchmaker posts pics I'll update the link. sorry guys.
@Not-a-bot222
@Not-a-bot222 25 күн бұрын
It’s okay, I believe you! Back to watching Godzilla Minus One, Japan is killing it lately !
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
looks good!
@juancarlosmendoza4587
@juancarlosmendoza4587 20 күн бұрын
Price ain't the same anymore. The main questions here is, is it still worth it to buy a seiko, when you have a lot of microbrands with better value.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 20 күн бұрын
that is a personal decision. Some people value Seiko's heritage and will be willing to pay more.
@randysyarif1738
@randysyarif1738 23 сағат бұрын
Hi, which one is better Seiko SPB451 or Longines Hydroconquest L3.781.4.96.6?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 19 сағат бұрын
Hydro
@BamBamSecretAgentXer
@BamBamSecretAgentXer 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review! Agree the cheap stamped sheet metal bracelet extension has to go
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
You bet!
@flow2tech
@flow2tech 23 күн бұрын
​@@EscapementWatch What will uncle Seiko come up with is the question..His jubilee completely changed my 143
@mathewazzopard8100
@mathewazzopard8100 24 күн бұрын
Why the black dial is on strap only ? Is it available with bracelet ? Is it regulated or they just throw it at us with their atrocious -10/+25 ?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 23 күн бұрын
black dial comes on bracelet
@mathewazzopard8100
@mathewazzopard8100 23 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch link to check it ? Edit still waiting
@thewalkindude7716
@thewalkindude7716 5 күн бұрын
I wish I knew more about watches. A local jewelry store that I’ve been a patron for decades just started selling Seiko Prospex watches. The cheapest one is about $2400. But the Dillards at the mall has some a lot cheaper -$500-$700. The most expensive one on Seiko’s website is about $1000. I’ve looked at other places online too and found the same disparity. Why such a huge difference? What am I missing?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 5 күн бұрын
different Seiko tiers. SLA or SJE references are the upper end 2k+ with superior finish on the inside and case. Also, the movements are a tier above. SPB reference is this one in this video and is mid-tier. And SRPE is lower end. Its more complicated but that should help you start.
@watchh6463
@watchh6463 20 күн бұрын
이번 나온 제품중에서 포인트는 두꼐를 0.5 줄여지면서 디자인은 얇아지면서 오히려 방수 스펙은 200mm에서 300mm 으로 올려진점에서 좋은방향의 디자인 진보라 생각됩니다. 다이버지만 일상 생활에서 착용을 추구하는 디자인을 추구하는 방향으로 두께는 얇야지고 무게를 감소함으로써 착용감을 개선했다는 점에서 좋다고 생각합니다. 그리고 거기에에 방수 300mm 로 견딜수 있게 만들진점이 좋다고 생각됩니다. 차도 마찬가지로 엔진의 다운사이징을 만드는것 이 더 어렵다는걸 생각해봐야 할것 같습니다. 외형은 줄이면서 스펙을 늘리는 작업 쉽지많은 않다고 생각됩니다. 기존 SPB143 한국 가격이지만 206만원 거기에 이번 모델은 222만원으로 책정되었습니다. 불과 16만원 상승입니다. 만들어진 디자인 스펙에 비하면 과하지 않다고 생각됩니다.
@LeongLeeLing
@LeongLeeLing 22 күн бұрын
Beautiful watches in person. But yea, come on Seiko, the stamped clasp and diver extension remain awful!
@pk1342
@pk1342 13 күн бұрын
The clasp looks fully milled. The divers extension is stamped
@LeongLeeLing
@LeongLeeLing 12 күн бұрын
Dont think so on the clasp, but I could be wrong :)
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d 25 күн бұрын
So is the l2l 46.4, or 47.4?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
watch the video my man! I show dimensions for both old and new full details.
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d 24 күн бұрын
@EscapementWatch i did watch it, brother. You said 46.4mm but on the screen it said 47.4mm. Ill rewatch it, maye i made a mistake.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Sorry for the confusion. The list that pops up on the top left says "last gen measurements" so you guys can compare. but the moving animation with watch in hand is the new one: 46.4mm. Last generation is 47.5mm @4:30 (previous generations full measurements) Hope that clears it up.
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d
@El-AYE-Ra1s3d 24 күн бұрын
​@EscapementWatch yeah, my fault. Great review brother, as always 👍
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for watch appreciate you long time subs.
@user-xy9yl1vw8w
@user-xy9yl1vw8w 19 күн бұрын
Very nice 😍😍😍
@watchh6463
@watchh6463 20 күн бұрын
날짜창의 위치 변경은 이렇게 생각됩니다. ISO 인증을 위해 3시 방향의 작은 인덱스 야광을 개선하기 위해 4시 방향으로 빠지면서 3시 인덱스를 크기를 키움으로써 야광을 개선을 하다보니 부득이하게 4시 와 5시 사이로 위치를 바꾸었을거라 생각됩니다.
@khronokraze
@khronokraze 23 күн бұрын
Thumbs up for your video. As with the subject of the video... I'm still not sold on the new 6R55 movement. And, your explanation that it is essentially the same as the previous 6R35 is not encouraging. The current state of the 6R movements and the poor clasp with ugly dive extension which is useless for nearly all of us as well as restricting good articulation of the bracelet to rest flat when placed on a table top all make me hold off from any Seiko dive watch purchases until they satisfactorily address both. I might have been inclined to spend significantly more to go with the new Marine Master with 6L movement. BUT, the same crappy clasp situation will hold me back. I want the COMPLETE package from Seiko divers. Plenty of other watches to enjoy until then... If that day will ever come.
@anthonyvargas8704
@anthonyvargas8704 18 күн бұрын
I wish I could have one but I'm poor and can't have one but I'm still going to get a plastic watch 😢
@clhntr
@clhntr 5 күн бұрын
Beautiful watch! Don’t understand all the hate.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 5 күн бұрын
Its a Seiko so naturally it is hated.
@samtran5095
@samtran5095 24 күн бұрын
I still prefer the older model (only 1st gen as they dont have hideous lume on minute track at 3), i cant stand the date at 4.30 and what they brag about 3 days pr. Its a must buy for me if no date and just written “automatic 300m” cuz damn they look good. 😂
@khulgarulfsson8067
@khulgarulfsson8067 23 күн бұрын
Gah! Just do a no date version already! 😂
@mattsmiley8156
@mattsmiley8156 25 күн бұрын
What’s with the falling titan name?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 25 күн бұрын
just a fun name I used when I started the channel. I didn't want to be a typical boring "hello I'm john smith and lets talk watches with coffee" type of thing. that was the original plan and I'm stuck with it now
@ProfessorPesca
@ProfessorPesca 25 күн бұрын
Are you even allowed to be a watch KZfaqr without that “A MAN AND HIS WATCH” book somewhere in every video?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Its against the law to not have it.
@a51nx
@a51nx 25 күн бұрын
Annoying they wont go with a date at 6 or just a no date variant. Btw does this still have a diashield coating that gives the metal a warmer hue?
@RafaRodriguezOfficial
@RafaRodriguezOfficial 25 күн бұрын
It's unlikely that they will make one without date given that the S in 62MAS comes from "Selfdater", as in, with a date complication.
@joshn.5625
@joshn.5625 23 күн бұрын
I actually like the date (and generally hate 4:30 date windows). I have a Slim Turtle and in person it is very discreet. I think they made the change to be ISO compliant, as you know must have lume plots at every hour.
@a51nx
@a51nx 23 күн бұрын
​@@joshn.5625 Agreed. The black variant this release is the best one to my eyes as it makes the date window discreet. Hard to unsee in the other colors however
@ponjk101
@ponjk101 23 күн бұрын
I love where the date is, better than having it at 3 or 6 o'clock.. Like other watches. Iv got older version & very happy with it 😊 + still no scratches thx to dia-shield coating. (if u don't want a date, buy black bay 58)
@MrFredrictai
@MrFredrictai 22 күн бұрын
little steps in refinement, giant step on price~ 😅
@Klingonmastr
@Klingonmastr 18 күн бұрын
This is only a small bump in price over the cheaper $1000 Citizen Promaster Fujitsubo Automatic diver watch. While that Citizen watch has a decent titanium bracelet it looks and feels cheap compared to this more expensive Seiko Watch. That gorgeous blue dial is what I really like with this Seiko diver watch. I would only buy one of these new these new Seiko 63MAS divers if I could get a decent discount.
@hlee2
@hlee2 24 күн бұрын
No. Date windows should either be at 3 or 6 o clock
@BlueCuddlefish
@BlueCuddlefish 24 күн бұрын
I've been getting into no date watches but i'm kind of liking the hidden appearance of this one. Temping...
@Andrew-yy2ye
@Andrew-yy2ye 25 күн бұрын
It's a beautiful watch, but for me it's all about the movement, is the movement any good because the last one was trash
@jeffwblack
@jeffwblack 24 күн бұрын
The "62MAS Homage" link goes to a dead web page.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
thanks fixed!
@Vox-Populi
@Vox-Populi 25 күн бұрын
Maybe they listened to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I've been complaining about that damn wave bump for years! It's irritating.
@tilio9380
@tilio9380 24 күн бұрын
2:39 I have had a previous generation 63MAS with the same hand alignment issue. Seiko QC is just straight up laughable at this point.
@ryanthomas9306
@ryanthomas9306 14 күн бұрын
6 or 3 o’clock
@jyc210
@jyc210 15 күн бұрын
The old one is SPB147.
@ph69jbl
@ph69jbl 24 күн бұрын
63?
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
Yea it's the nickname
@Hermod_Hermit
@Hermod_Hermit 25 күн бұрын
Great looking watches! But... Pin and collar bracelet? For that price? I am getting way less of a Seikoholic by the day tbh. Latest Seiko-ish watches I have are all ugly builds from Aliexpress, and they give me just as much joy for about 1/15th of the price of a new Seiko. And that includes bracelets of the same or better quality should I opt for one. And those ugly builds still have mechanical movements of Seiko making, and I can swap them for about $30 the day they give up - if they ever do give up. As I wear a watch always, every day, year round, no matter the activity, I have come to a point in life where I all in a sudden do not wish to wear my SPB151 Willard as I know I will eventually destroy if against a rock, the underside of my car, at a construction site or by just being active outdoors doing "stuff". To me, Seiko has in a way lost a bit of its soul to the markets in a sense they are more and more opting to go expensive at the same time when makers like Steeldive, Seestern etc etc are cranking out watches in the $75-$300 range that are pretty much everything you could ever wish for both in looks and quality. Yes, sure they are rip offs but you still get stainless, sapphire, mechanical, and like I just said most of the time bracelets of similar or better quality.
@polygoncoco
@polygoncoco 24 күн бұрын
Pin and collar is better. It’s more secure and you don’t have to use loctite. Or worry about messing up the threading or head of the screws etc. + can allow bracelets to be much thinner (even if seiko ones arent)
@seymores
@seymores 24 күн бұрын
Really nice background and setup, this is a good step up. But lose the gloves, c’mon man.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 23 күн бұрын
the gloves are there to not distract with dirty finger nails or cuts.
@malzahar33
@malzahar33 25 күн бұрын
I hate so much seiko because now I will spend money to buy it
@domenicoforte4023
@domenicoforte4023 23 күн бұрын
Maledetta data
@timemeasured9137
@timemeasured9137 25 күн бұрын
The blue is nice!!! Wish they did a ceramic bezel and lose the minute markers on the bezel and just keep them at every 5 mins. Overall they look good.
@ultimaetsolder
@ultimaetsolder 25 күн бұрын
Done with Seikos.
@Owls-Hickokko
@Owls-Hickokko 24 күн бұрын
Nice watch but far too expensive - should be nearer £600-700.
@Apex_Apeq
@Apex_Apeq 8 күн бұрын
I suggest U make your own watch sir
@blairdalgleish8247
@blairdalgleish8247 24 күн бұрын
To expensive, no signed crown and quality control issues will stop me buying this
@fethryduck
@fethryduck 24 күн бұрын
The accuracy with Seiko Watches is like a Lottery.
@TheVince1995
@TheVince1995 25 күн бұрын
I’ll get a ball for that price
@Not-a-bot222
@Not-a-bot222 25 күн бұрын
Ball to me, is like longines for a lot of people. They just “almost” make a good watch every time
@denbo74
@denbo74 25 күн бұрын
Will the new movement be as abysmally imprecise as the 6r35? $200 watches with ETAs are more precise
@johnnguyen385
@johnnguyen385 25 күн бұрын
I wonder this, too. I’ve had over half a dozen 6R models and every single one performed erratically, even after regulations by professional watchmakers-one watchmaker even said that the regulation in the 6R won’t last more than a few days. Interestingly, my Seikos with the 4R calibre are more precise and consistent, and are superior after simple regulation that can be done at home.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
I'm guessing yes its fundamentally the same as the 35. But I'll keep an eye out.
@buckethead84
@buckethead84 25 күн бұрын
Owned a spb143 before and never again. The watch was pretty but wore heavy, movement sucked and bezel clicker broke. It was was replaced by the Baltic aquascaphe, and it's just better in every way for less $.
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy 24 күн бұрын
The only thing holding back Seiko watches now is the 6r series movement. Can’t wait for them to ditch it all and bring a 28.8k bph movement
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
some presage have a 6R with 28,800vph. But yes they need to bring the new 6L down to this price point!
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy
@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy 24 күн бұрын
@@EscapementWatch did you own any 6l series watches? Would like to see a review from someone who has experience with them.
@EscapementWatch
@EscapementWatch 24 күн бұрын
I just sold my king seiko with 6L I owned for a couple years. It was fantastic never over +6seconds a day. I will be buying a new 62MAS with the 6L either this year or next. Just need to decide which one.
@aesric
@aesric 24 күн бұрын
Fuck that date seriously
@ninjasrose1653
@ninjasrose1653 25 күн бұрын
They completely ruined this watch by putting “Automatic three days”on the dial. Why?!?!? What a stupid comment to have on a watch dial. Not to mention putting the date window in no man’s land again. 🤦🏻
@JoyJARDURLY
@JoyJARDURLY 25 күн бұрын
Hello,Can we collaborate together? Look forward to hearing from you! I am a professional manufacturer of men's watches.
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 23 күн бұрын
Why is there nothing on your channel?
@milaweitz
@milaweitz 18 күн бұрын
still prefer the 2020 release. Date window in better symmetric position. Love my SPB143
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