Truly one of the best on KZfaq in terms of density of quality and quantity of content. I don't think that's an exaggeration anymore we even know we always knew it.

@John Noname I agree

That's autism for us.

@@bastiaanzoetaert9628 What do mean by that? I hope that isn't a slight against people with Autism or Issac 😑

There's nothing better than consistency

that's a pretty terribly thought. I wouldn't risk them taking me alive

Or the inhibitors from Revelation Space.

@ CR Smith That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ? The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations. Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ? This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.

@@andrewl.8626 Just imagine, your timeline measured in Galactic rotations...

Planets existing in the space between galaxies are almost certainly exceptionally rare. And whole star systems rarer still.

like a serious sci-fi version of the fake town scene from Blazing Saddles.... I'm down for it

As a bonus you could have each of the decoys be capable of assembling/dissembling into Von Neumann probes that can act to seed and rebuild civilization from a saved information bank so any which the enemy ignores or misses can grow again to become an advanced civilization. Of course this requires you to have prepared for the possibility of needing to flee prefect for the paranoid civilization obsessed with preserving their existence. It might actually be a good "origin" for the aliens which masquerade as gods in one of my science fantasy settings given that the idea was they were refugees fleeing something which caught up to them and wiped them out resulting in their gods vanishing and an ensuing dark age where knowledge is lost. Cue science eventually advancing and reaching the space age and rather than pristine asteroids and planets they find wreckages of the alien ships/space stations in tattered ruins. Whoever did it left leaving them and their world behind albeit picked clean of all advanced alien technology. Just imagine that revelation you are in a long cold war space race analog looking out at the solar system and you find dead alien ruins the ruins are partially stripped of whatever the perpetrators took away presumably the technology the so called gods had used to rule over "mere mortals" and travel between the stars and all the knowledge stored within the ruined vessels but everything else is left derelict. No knowledge or evidence would be left of the attackers so they would be left to speculate under the existential dread that someone came and wiped out alien beings so powerful they were thought as gods and then left selectively removing some technology but leaving everything else. What happened?, What did they remove and why? Might the attackers return and if so how do they avoid meeting the same fate? So many questions to worry about and how might they shape society? :P

Pak Protector's would have loved that one.

@ This is new That's what I thought too, except I thought, what about if a prey fleet enters a solar system, uses the planets of the system to do undetectable slingshot maneuvers outbound, seeds the asteroids of such a system with automated factories to produce stalling forces to attack the pursuit fleet and automated decoy fleets to throw off the pursuers ? The only problem is if the pursuing fleet were AI and robotic based, then they would likely induce the automated forces you leave behind and decoy fleets by standard light speed communication to join them and reveal their locations. Now what if the original pursuit fleet were biological, but over time and many cycles of this happening the fleet that is pursuing you is eventually essentially your own creation ? This kinda dovetails the narrative of the Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica and Caprica story.

This reminds me of the Cole protocol

i wonder how one would escape K3 civ galaxy that's actively chasing them? now that's some lovecraftian futurism.

"~You left a couple and they will breed a couple more, and soon after we will be hated twice as before~" If you decided to start a genocide you better commit to it.

Especially true if the fleeing fleet is moving at relativistic speeds. The rest of the galaxy will operate at a faster clock and make faster scientific progress than the fleeing fleet. (Anyone who has played Stellaris will appreciate this.)

@@guillermoelnino The question is, are k3 too?

We all know maths required but it's one of my worst subjects. Knew how to read and spell almost instantly as a kid but math I hated.

Yes absolutely; it's literally only you. Well done you singular entity you, leading the way on the luminar passage of the evolution of consciousness itself. Your intellectual superiority will forever be revered. Amen

I suck at math and still love when he goes into depth with the maths!!! :)

Yes it is only you

YES

Can confirm. In Stellaris my machine empire chased someone across the galaxy for hours

What if the hunted civilization is a machine race too? Wouldn't that mean that the two essentially commit to a . . . _machine race_ ? * sun glasses * _YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH_

Imagine the response...’How ironic, because now WE do!!!’

"Actually, we had civil war long time ago, and the leaders that killed your civilisation got killed. We chased you to apologise"

I cannot blame you. She is a beautiful lady.

Try the Organic Chemistry Tutor. It's a youtube channel that presents (in addition to Organic Chemistry) math in a very easy to learn manner. It starts from basics and goes as high as you'd like. I honestly learned more in six months of his lessons than I did in six years of school.

Im like you I can visualize how gravity works without the use of gravity Yet, Maths makes my mind fade Its hard to keep track of what im doing

I'm just starting the video and I'm already lost. Shouldn't we be adding or subtracting time dilation to the equation? And yes over those sorts of speeds, distances, and time scales time dilation is going to be a factor!

I think a lot of people find the kind of numbers used in astronomy daunting because they try to work with them written out in full, rather than in scientific notation. Which looks easier? 170000000000000000 1.7e17 The latter, right? I think the designers of the metric system realised that, too. That's why we've got the prefix system. It's a linguistic version of scientific notation, just quantised to multiples of three (well, if you ignore the prefix cluster around unity (centi, deci, deca, and hecto) that gets little use with most units).

@@Roxor128 Funny we were taught to write it like this 1.7*10^17 ...and that calculator e always messed with my head (When i first started using Texas instruments)

Don't forget that the great attractor is itself being attracted by an even greater one.

How far away would you need to be to notice that the "milky way" is inside the event horizon of the Attractor.

I mean, entering it’s center isn’t going to end anyone or anything so it’s not that big of a deal (There might be issues with close supernovae, gamma ray bursts, or similar, but it’s so long into the future we have enough time for it)

Stars don't usually hop from one galaxy to another.

@@jengleheimerschmitt7941 they do it all the time, (obviously majority of stars continued to orbit around their galaxy center of mass ) , and from what I remember the fastest star that was detected escaping from our galaxy move it with 8% of light speed.

@@theOrionsarms OK, you're right. I wasn't really thinking there.

Ooooh, literally everywhere at once.

And not just this universe, either. Duncan Idaho piloted the Ithaca through many varied alternative universes, on its mad dash away from Omnius' tachyon net, in the events described in the risible two final Dune series sequels co-authored by Frank Herbert's son & Kevin J Anderson.

That is what we called "magical" machines on earth,,,

How many times can you fold the universe before it rips?

@@joshkilluminadi7158 yes

Pink Floyd, "Interstellar Overdrive".

IIRC, the detection ranges in HH are lower, more like hundreds of _light-days_ instead of light-years. The prime concern seems to be relativistic kill missiles released from half a light year away, with a few years time to target. Any more, and it wouldn't be an effective weapon in political time scales (all major HH polities have FTL, so they're synchronized pretty well), no use in launching an attack that'll hit a century later, possibly long after even the longest war has ended. What's measured in hundreds of LY is the diameter of a major polity (called "star nation"), and most space junctions (a small region of space that allows ships to cross some space instantly, to appear at the other end which is usually many LY away). Manticore, the POV polity for most of the books, is in possession of a particularly useful junction, with the "hub" in the vicinity of the Manticore system (about one light-day out) and as many as six outer endpoints, each more than 100 LY away.

It's also an anime on Netflix, though I can't say whether it's true to the manga or not because I haven't read or watched either myself... yet.

@@gitrekt-gudson well I didn't like the Blame! anime adaptation (literally fell asleep 3 times while watching), too much dialogue, but I feel like Knights of Sidonia would work better for that format.

The (space)ship of Theseus.

"Hey! Are you the guy that was talking shite about me 200,000 years ago? I'm talking to you buddy."

It's amazing (and terrifying) what a society can accomplish without the shackles of morality or human rights. See China's exponential rise to power, for example

Didn't know Hawaiians were so awful, thank God they got overthrown

In a certain sense, what our host suggests, editing the DNA of a fetus, is that really any different? The baby that was meant to be born by the natural combination of the DNA is "killed". Indeed, in the case of DNA editing, effectively a "new" baby replaces the old one. It's almost like the old European folklore about changelings, except *we* are the changelings ourselves! Sure, our methods might seem more humane, scientific, and enlightened, but bear in a mind that whatever practice you think is so humane and enlightened today, people a thousand years in the future will probably deem barbaric. Perhaps the better way to consider the matter is that we are doing the best we can with the means available to us at the moment. At the same time Christian missionaries in mesoamerica were trying to stop human sacrifice, in Europe there was still on-going Inquisitions, witch trials, and trial by combat. Were Christians really so much more enlightened, or just doing the best they could according to their understanding of the world around them? It's not a simple question. I'm not here to be a cultural relativist - certain practices are indeed quite horrific regardless, especially the harming of babies and young children, but the point remains that whatever you deem barbaric from the past, it is worth keeping in mind that future generations will find something you do or believe to be barbaric. Such is the nature of human progress.

Assuming you have a head start anyway, staying in the galactic plane makes it easier to find red dwarfs/nebula to use for harvesting and/or hidden direction changes. You could go ahead and leave the galactic plane early, but you'd be giving up a lot of resources and oppurtunities to make strong burns hidden by stars. You'd still get those oppurtunities if you left the galactic plane, just not as many, not as often, and a sufficiently capable pursuer would have a smaller list of stars that might be your destination.

AFter 10% the speed of light you'd start running into relativistic effects. In truth, even that speed would be problematic due to energy use, and radiation at the front of the hull, both of which are showstopper problems. Unless you are Q, it isn't happening. Mirrors. Man. Big Mirrors. Bring the universe to your couch lol.

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