Stephen A. DEBATES which QB (besides Mahomes) is BEST to start a franchise with! | First Take

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On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Ryan Clark and Mike Tannenbaum discuss which QB in the NFL (outside of Patrick Mahomes) is the best to start a franchise with.
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@kaidoo1745
@kaidoo1745 29 күн бұрын
Mahomes is so goated he’s not even in these conversations anymore 😂😂
@texaslegend5076
@texaslegend5076 29 күн бұрын
Mahomes has achieved OG status before 30 years old
@Blakkcartel
@Blakkcartel 29 күн бұрын
Fax and I love it lol ppl can’t fake troll or fake hate anymore 😂😂😂😂‼️🙌💯
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie 29 күн бұрын
Patrick the white Chief Mahomes 🫡🚬
@ninety8grovebaby701
@ninety8grovebaby701 29 күн бұрын
@@Blakkcartel still not better than Brady goof
@av2018
@av2018 29 күн бұрын
@ninety8grovebaby701 if I get a nickel for every time a Brady fanboy gets insecure, I’ll be richer than Edwin Castro.
@bradleycampbell245
@bradleycampbell245 29 күн бұрын
CJ Stroud having an 80 overall on Madden 25 is also blasphemous
@brayansolis9982
@brayansolis9982 29 күн бұрын
Facts after 1 year
@ToddIrwin
@ToddIrwin 29 күн бұрын
Brock Purdy
@MichiganHendough
@MichiganHendough 29 күн бұрын
youll be eating youre words after he in the mvp race this year.
@huh3719
@huh3719 29 күн бұрын
He only played 1 year dawg, that’s how they rate qbs
@carlgilmore-murry5789
@carlgilmore-murry5789 29 күн бұрын
CJ was arguably 1 of the top 6-7 QB’s from last season & he didn’t have superstar weapons like most of these guys did
@independentthinker3920
@independentthinker3920 29 күн бұрын
Mike T always proves why he is a FORMER NFL GM 😭😭
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing 29 күн бұрын
There ain’t even a team in the UFL that would pay him more than ESPN pays him to show up twice a month to hand out whatever new nonsense he has created in his head.
@shiftymcgee9359
@shiftymcgee9359 29 күн бұрын
Fired twice.
@kevindukes8185
@kevindukes8185 29 күн бұрын
Tannenbaum takes are HORRIBLE
@Knuisance131
@Knuisance131 29 күн бұрын
yea his take will easily age well. last time the first take crew unestimated JLove he proved them wrong
@PatDK
@PatDK 29 күн бұрын
@@Knuisance131they aren’t underestimating Love, they are simply saying that CJ Stroud is the better option
@OmarScruggs
@OmarScruggs 29 күн бұрын
How does Greenbay just keeping drafting the right QB. No gaps in 30 years
@aaronclay4665
@aaronclay4665 28 күн бұрын
Love is trash, won 9 games. Watson is 8 and 4 with browns, and ppl are saying he is a bust ( the only thing watson has not done with browns is stay on the field, one was his fault with the allegations and the other 11 games miss are injured). I don't understand ppl... when watson whoops the cowboys in week 1 this year you won't hear anyone sing his praise like love... Love is avg, watson is avg, there are 3 top qbs burrow jackson and patty up top that's it, after that it's a 15 man scrum for who's on top but they ain't close to the top 3, and no Josh allen will be bad this year, hr is 14 and 18 without. Diggs on his team....
@january9th
@january9th 28 күн бұрын
​@@aaronclay4665 he started getting good secon half of the season that's why 9 wins
@dodu8281
@dodu8281 28 күн бұрын
maybe they develop those guys not just putting them out there so early getting ruined....
@TheKnightofAwesomeness
@TheKnightofAwesomeness 28 күн бұрын
It helped that they actually let him sit and learned...
@TheKingOfLions
@TheKingOfLions 26 күн бұрын
It’s a strong organization that doesn’t throw college players on the field w nfl players they prepare them.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 28 күн бұрын
I mean it’s about time, QB Debates start with "other than Mahomes" because he’s in a galaxy of his own.
@AD-ur1fk
@AD-ur1fk 24 күн бұрын
Facts he’s already top 3 all time
@bobjeff1243
@bobjeff1243 11 күн бұрын
@@AD-ur1fk talent wise or stat wise
@6oweLA
@6oweLA 29 күн бұрын
Mahomes got kicked out the conversation lmfao sheesh
@ACU_misfit
@ACU_misfit 29 күн бұрын
They can't even fake it anymore 😂
@6oweLA
@6oweLA 29 күн бұрын
@@ACU_misfit fr lol He’s exempt now
@KWCline91
@KWCline91 26 күн бұрын
Key words: Outside of, which means Mahomes is the number one choice.
@anonimust8
@anonimust8 24 күн бұрын
@@KWCline91well those words were never really used lmao
@JGFS92
@JGFS92 17 күн бұрын
Because it’s not a conversation if Mahomes is included
@jerrybutler3062
@jerrybutler3062 29 күн бұрын
Every qb debate is which qb “other than mahomes” he’s so clearly ahead of every one else
@Gordoxlmao
@Gordoxlmao 29 күн бұрын
Yeah , that’s why they do that …. What was the point of this comment lol
@rafaelisslaam1894
@rafaelisslaam1894 28 күн бұрын
Ur basically saying Sky is blue and water is wet dude
@DJ-ll9hv
@DJ-ll9hv 28 күн бұрын
No one else has a ring that’s why
@290Wheelosaurus_rex
@290Wheelosaurus_rex 28 күн бұрын
It used to be every other QB other than Brady
@rafaelisslaam1894
@rafaelisslaam1894 28 күн бұрын
@@DJ-ll9hv stafford do
@brennanloder
@brennanloder 27 күн бұрын
The Josh Allen disrespect is insane.
@Chvdddd
@Chvdddd 24 күн бұрын
He can’t win when it’s time
@user-vj9lz1po9e
@user-vj9lz1po9e 24 күн бұрын
@@ChvddddLook at his playoff performances.
@Sckoobiey
@Sckoobiey 24 күн бұрын
He had his time and he failed. Maybe I'm another 5 years he'll be able to get back into the conversation
@andrewm6044
@andrewm6044 24 күн бұрын
@@Sckoobiey Seriously? You don't know football. Such a 2010 football take smh.
@Sckoobiey
@Sckoobiey 24 күн бұрын
@@andrewm6044 put money on him winning the Superbowl this year then since you believe in him so much. 100 dollar bet right now and if he makes the Superbowl I'll double it. What's up?
@KogaNobuyoshi
@KogaNobuyoshi 29 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you could put Jordan Love over CJ.
@fetchyryu
@fetchyryu 29 күн бұрын
ill take a guy who swings every game and makes occasional mistakes over the guy who occasionally collapses completely vs better teams
@KogaNobuyoshi
@KogaNobuyoshi 29 күн бұрын
@@fetchyryu Occasional? Overall Stroud was a more accurate passer and better player last season. I'm far more confident in Stroud.
@fetchyryu
@fetchyryu 29 күн бұрын
@@KogaNobuyoshi i cant be more confident in stroud after that ravens game bro was seeing ghosts
@KogaNobuyoshi
@KogaNobuyoshi 29 күн бұрын
@@fetchyryu The Texans were a far less talented team than the Ravens. The Packers did have a better effort against the 9rs, but that doesn't affect my opinion on Stroud. This season we'll see who the better team is.
@royhoward8217
@royhoward8217 29 күн бұрын
@@fetchyryu Love will be out of the league, while CJ is still battling Mahomes for MVP trophies. Imagine trashing someone playing behind a 5th string center, and had the most injuries to a single line in nfl history.
@kcbd50
@kcbd50 29 күн бұрын
I'm so glad Mahomes cemented himself to the point where we aren't hearing all off-season how (Insert AFC QB) Is going to unseat him and are they already better than Mahomes.
@Renegade-kf8fp
@Renegade-kf8fp 29 күн бұрын
Facts
@ericharden6832
@ericharden6832 29 күн бұрын
Finally!
@KevonDaDon
@KevonDaDon 28 күн бұрын
Ngl I thought they was gonna do it again but with Stroud this time 🤣
@slipk0rvayne17
@slipk0rvayne17 28 күн бұрын
Brady better.
@lakeozarkrei3767
@lakeozarkrei3767 28 күн бұрын
😅👍
@SphinxMen1906
@SphinxMen1906 29 күн бұрын
I would start a franchise with Lamar, Joe Burrow, Herbert, Stroud over Jordan Love.
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 26 күн бұрын
Burrow is hurt too much and Hebert is good but overrated. Stroud is great but I'm going with Love.
@TheGoatQue
@TheGoatQue 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@fracturedsolace145😂😂burrow took his team to a Super Bowl. Love was awful vs the raiders 3 picks no tds
@gamerdude-kv3sy
@gamerdude-kv3sy 24 күн бұрын
Obviously not hurt that much. He took his team to a super bowl after sustaining a major injury​@@fracturedsolace145
@karisa336
@karisa336 24 күн бұрын
Josh Allen has entered the chat. Herbert and Stroud over Allen, total joke.
@Fake2000s
@Fake2000s 24 күн бұрын
@@fracturedsolace145we found the packers fan💀
@renzogerrod5293
@renzogerrod5293 26 күн бұрын
It’s funny because I remember when all of these analysts were bashing J Love lol.
@kain93
@kain93 27 күн бұрын
Cj is the new nfl player and quarterback that every kid can learn from he is very special and a great human being. He changed this organization and brought love for football in Houston and in the NFL. Amen to that .
@blowthewhistle3352
@blowthewhistle3352 29 күн бұрын
Stroud & Love on the same level. They both was counted out. They both surprised the league as true first rnd picks. Lived up to it.
@meese4eva976
@meese4eva976 29 күн бұрын
Neither was a number 1 pick😂😂
@blowthewhistle3352
@blowthewhistle3352 28 күн бұрын
@@meese4eva976 meant first round picks.
@DwainWilsonJr
@DwainWilsonJr 28 күн бұрын
Although I will have to agree with Mike on one thing... Love and the Packers were given the 9ers a freakin run for their money... Stroud and the Texans on the other hand were NO match against the Ravens
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 26 күн бұрын
​@meese4eva976 he clearly said "first round".
@BerserkRain
@BerserkRain 14 күн бұрын
​@DwainWilsonJr with the proper additions and what ravens lost it will be interesting the Texans will only get better tbh.
@KevinWatson-ns7fi
@KevinWatson-ns7fi 29 күн бұрын
“Outside of Patrick” All that needs to be said. 👍
@rellfacts279
@rellfacts279 24 күн бұрын
Jordan Love glazing is crazy. He played great for half the season and now all of a sudden he’s the GOAT.
@bankslaw8900
@bankslaw8900 29 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson 2x MVP, 2x 1st team all pro, 3x pro bowler, top 4 win percentage in the history of the game.
@mathewjones8886
@mathewjones8886 29 күн бұрын
And 2 playoff wins in 6 seasons despite being the #1 seed twice and well as a ceiling of 3600 passing yards for a season. Remove his legs and he's usually ordinary at best.
@wisethabrain1100
@wisethabrain1100 29 күн бұрын
The man can't throw!
@icytwatt4115
@icytwatt4115 29 күн бұрын
@@wisethabrain1100bruh shut up
@jellyman9013
@jellyman9013 29 күн бұрын
Bro has choked almost every year, even with top seed and home advantage. Just can't throw that well. Great but I'd take others fo sho
@jonnybones6952
@jonnybones6952 29 күн бұрын
James Harden has some great achievements too, but where’s his rings??
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 28 күн бұрын
Mahomes is so good that he’s been promoted out of these discussions. Behind Mahomes, Lamar is by far the most accomplished, Allen is probably the best eye-test wise, and Burrow is the most accurate and clutch. The problem is, Mahomes is better than each of them at their strongest aspect.
@MrFrankiejay23
@MrFrankiejay23 28 күн бұрын
Pat not a better runner then Lamar lmao you had me until you said that 😂
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 26 күн бұрын
@@MrFrankiejay23 I meant in terms of the aspects I mentioned. Yes Lamar is a better runner.
@mike-vc1qm
@mike-vc1qm 24 күн бұрын
@@MrFrankiejay23keep the running I’ll take mahomes winning rings an not choking in the playoffs lol
@rodneytillis6358
@rodneytillis6358 23 күн бұрын
Burrow is the only one who’s beat mahones
@mike-vc1qm
@mike-vc1qm 22 күн бұрын
@@rodneytillis6358 once an lost the Super Bowl mahomes beat him an win 3 superbowls see the difference ? Lol how long you Bengal fans gonna ride that
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 24 күн бұрын
1 - Mahomes 2- Burrow (healthy) 3- Stroud 4- Jackson 5- Allen 6- Herbert 7- Love 8- Stafford 9- Goff 10- Trevor
@dacode2.038
@dacode2.038 23 күн бұрын
No Purdy yeah you don’t watch football
@jasonlarson9886
@jasonlarson9886 18 күн бұрын
This is the list of a casual fan.
@willhanning-yu9090
@willhanning-yu9090 29 күн бұрын
I’m glad people are finally recognizing that Patrick Mahomes is on another level
@jaliancasey5409
@jaliancasey5409 27 күн бұрын
That’s not new people was comparing him to Brady before he even won this year. When he did what he did his first year starting I feel like most people KNEW it’s just a lot of old heads and Brady fans that don’t wanna admit it.
@KingInTraining
@KingInTraining 26 күн бұрын
Dumb statement, it was never going unrecognized it was just unproven until superbowls 2 and 3
@kennyb1997
@kennyb1997 24 күн бұрын
I knew he was gonna be special after 2018 ironically he went from a QB I was super excited to see to now completely hate him with a passion due to Superbowl 54 and 58 loses to him it's so true idols become rivals 😳
@getbrainseeds
@getbrainseeds 10 күн бұрын
mor like the refs let him be on another level in a real world he's not even top 3
@willhanning-yu9090
@willhanning-yu9090 10 күн бұрын
@@getbrainseeds lmao we live rent free in ur head plus looks like u don’t know ball 😭 u got seeds for brains 😂😂😂
@JCool123
@JCool123 29 күн бұрын
The Good thing is that Texans-Packers will play each other this year so we will see who wins the game.
@gdiZzy1
@gdiZzy1 29 күн бұрын
Thank you somebody smart out of all these comments 😂 Packers will dominate
@captainyami4605
@captainyami4605 28 күн бұрын
@@gdiZzy1Dumb comment. A QB can outplay the other and still lose. CJ was better than Jordan as a rookie and Jordan had years to learn behind aaron 😂
@JCool123
@JCool123 28 күн бұрын
@@captainyami4605 While Jordan did had years to learn behind Aaron Rodgers - He was able to develop with young receivers and they will grow together the key is going to be the offensive line. CJ Stroud and Demeco Ryans did a outstanding job of turning around the Houston Franchise that went through a lot of issues. I'm from the Houston area but a Packer fan as well so it will be fun to see how they will do this season.
@JCool123
@JCool123 28 күн бұрын
@@gdiZzy1 It will be a close game for sure but hopefully Packers win.
@deebrown9263
@deebrown9263 28 күн бұрын
That actually proves nothing , what if the other defense is better, the QBs aren't going 1 on 1 so who wins or plays better doesn't prove which qb is better , be different if it was basketball
@michaelf.bender3718
@michaelf.bender3718 29 күн бұрын
Mike T on the Jordan Love boat. Go, Pack, go!
@123shoshan
@123shoshan 28 күн бұрын
Mike t has never been right on anything
@michaelf.bender3718
@michaelf.bender3718 28 күн бұрын
@@123shoshan no. There's a reason why he got fired as a GM.
@Xkkltda
@Xkkltda 26 күн бұрын
This channel is a go-to for information. It's the best!
@BoomorBust
@BoomorBust 28 күн бұрын
Thanks to RC for getting the convo back on track. Cause they was picking QBs and talking about who is on their current team...literally not the prompt.
@jordansmith906
@jordansmith906 29 күн бұрын
Nvidia reference? Didn't know Mike T was based.
@rileymays2559
@rileymays2559 29 күн бұрын
I know about that stock since 2017 it was a penny stock
@johnsheldon7716
@johnsheldon7716 29 күн бұрын
I love when SAS's puberty voice comes out
@busyhandskast
@busyhandskast 24 күн бұрын
2 years and the disrespect to brock purdy is crazy . Ilove cj strout amd jordan love but. What purdy did in his first 2 year should make him top 5 in the league
@israelramirez1543
@israelramirez1543 29 күн бұрын
Brock purdy also won a 2 playoff games as a rookie
@corbindavis1219
@corbindavis1219 28 күн бұрын
purdy is the obvious answer in this debate
@hemantjain6679
@hemantjain6679 28 күн бұрын
Yeah and he has 5 all pro players on offense alone not even mentioning that defense... he was giffted a great team around him. Most QBs with that kind of talent around them would perform the same way.
@deebrown9263
@deebrown9263 28 күн бұрын
@@corbindavis1219in what debate because they no picking Purdy over them in a draft, that's why nobody brought him up
@NerdyChimera
@NerdyChimera 29 күн бұрын
Purdy won a playoff game as a rookie
@TimKahana
@TimKahana 29 күн бұрын
Bro won 2 playoff games in his rookie year, Purdy has the same amount of play off wins as Lamar and dak combined in 2 years lol
@danielwilliams693
@danielwilliams693 29 күн бұрын
@@TimKahana yeah but since he has the avengers in his team, everyone is going to downplay his achievements and rightfully so imo
@TimKahana
@TimKahana 29 күн бұрын
@@danielwilliams693 TBH it is an easy thing to point at. But watching the film with decision making, plays outside the pocket and timing he a top tier QB. Last year was supposed to be his sophomore slump especially after the injury. As a niner fan, watching jimmy G was a hit or miss with the same offense. Trey lance played so bad that he was traded as a 3rd stringer. There is a reason the 9ers are all in with Brock. Yes he has great players, but you still gotta pull the trigger at QB and drive the ball down the field and in the end zone
@MikkiChavez
@MikkiChavez 28 күн бұрын
Jimmy G was 5-1 with CMC & doing great. You ppl gotta stop the ignorance. If my team is full of HOF players why would I look nervous? Play bad? Miss reads? Etc... i​@@TimKahana
@rodrigosanchez2537
@rodrigosanchez2537 25 күн бұрын
​@danielwilliams693 same tired line that is just not telling the whole story. He has no top 10 receiver and his average yard throw for attempt led the league with a highly suspect o line bar the left tackle
@jjchatma
@jjchatma 29 күн бұрын
This segment shows why Mike T. sitting at that desk & not running a team. Same guy who was satisfied with Ryan Tannehill as his starter for the Dolphins lol.
@123shoshan
@123shoshan 28 күн бұрын
He shouldn’t be sitting at a desk with his awful opinions
@KingInTraining
@KingInTraining 26 күн бұрын
Dollar for dollar Tannehill>tua
@jaliancasey5409
@jaliancasey5409 27 күн бұрын
Stephen A: “We gon let you have to the last word” then proceeds to have the last words 😂😂
@mojomogul
@mojomogul 29 күн бұрын
That opening shot about Bridges was great tho 😂
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 28 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson followed by Josh Allen. Those 2 have run the most qb centric offenses in the league.
@agentcodybanx8909
@agentcodybanx8909 29 күн бұрын
Besides Mahomes, there is no clear 2nd best QB in the league
@jonocss2415
@jonocss2415 29 күн бұрын
😂
@GoatedAtNFS
@GoatedAtNFS 29 күн бұрын
there’s a tier 2 list with Burrow Jackson Goff Allen and Stroud (although i’m skeptical)
@WWG3802
@WWG3802 29 күн бұрын
Caleb Williams
@RyuujinLetum
@RyuujinLetum 29 күн бұрын
​@@WWG3802 kid has not played yet
@RyuujinLetum
@RyuujinLetum 29 күн бұрын
​@@GoatedAtNFS agree
@StayVibin
@StayVibin 23 күн бұрын
“High processing” Bros last throw was into double coverage across his body late 😂
@hbn232
@hbn232 29 күн бұрын
The more Mike T talks the more he embarrasses himself
@Jayoplantern
@Jayoplantern 29 күн бұрын
thats why he got fired
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing 29 күн бұрын
He ain’t embarrassed about anything. That implies he feels shame in some way. I assure you, he don’t know what the F that even is.
@AscendAR
@AscendAR 27 күн бұрын
The answer is Justin Herbert. Saying Jordan Love over him is straight disrespectful
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 26 күн бұрын
Love>Herbert
@bauer_lives5196
@bauer_lives5196 23 күн бұрын
Bruh Herbert has literally done nothing in the league and blew a 30 point lead in his only playoff game, I would take 9 QB’s over him
@raya7052
@raya7052 29 күн бұрын
Lamar, Burrow, Allen, Stroud in that order for me
@bigboy6593
@bigboy6593 29 күн бұрын
Nah Joe last just because his injuries
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie 29 күн бұрын
@@bigboy6593 Lamer the African quiter Jackson should be last because everyone knows he folds like a lawn chair 🤨🚬
@skywalker2759
@skywalker2759 29 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchiewhat about Allen? And don’t be white
@RyuujinLetum
@RyuujinLetum 29 күн бұрын
​@@goodnightmunchie stop racist
@Dabbers41234
@Dabbers41234 29 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchie I mean Allen folds every year to mahomes and Joe has had his leg and arm folded like a fitted sheet.
@ricardoleazard7892
@ricardoleazard7892 29 күн бұрын
As always what great show great debate best show in tv
@mroverdose14
@mroverdose14 28 күн бұрын
That 6:14 mark Sanchez rebuttal was a helluva check (chess term saying I got you on the ropes and I can win the next turn)
@maxadjusting3917
@maxadjusting3917 29 күн бұрын
Love is a good QB and will win because the Packers simply win...but putting him at your number 2 is a pretty good indication that ESPN needed something to talk about.
@leonzaduncan2438
@leonzaduncan2438 28 күн бұрын
It's something about him, at times looks effortless
@kelvinbirch5641
@kelvinbirch5641 29 күн бұрын
CJ Stroud is a proven quarterback.... He's better than deshaun Watson.
@kcbd50
@kcbd50 29 күн бұрын
Comparing him to Deshaun Watson isn't saying much bro
@kelvinbirch5641
@kelvinbirch5641 29 күн бұрын
@@kcbd50 maybe not but Stroud already proved to me he's a better franchise QB. Watson was Cool here in Houston before those accusations and look at him in Cleveland got his money and he ain't the same
@kcbd50
@kcbd50 29 күн бұрын
@@kelvinbirch5641 I forgot about the Houston connection. But yeah Stroud already better than him
@devincentism
@devincentism 29 күн бұрын
Besides mahomes? There is no comparing with mahomes. Debate shows have to leave mahomes out of it because its not even close.
@shawmathews4393
@shawmathews4393 29 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t extend any of them. One year doesn’t make a star.
@deebrown9263
@deebrown9263 28 күн бұрын
Why would u extend CJ he got 3 more years before that's even a discussion, lol he's ok the 2nd year of his rookie contract
@MajinMarcus_
@MajinMarcus_ 29 күн бұрын
As a Packers fan, I don’t think we’ve seen enough from either Jordan or CJ. I think they will both have great careers but at THIS point, I think it’s hard to say that one is better than the other.
@skywalker2759
@skywalker2759 29 күн бұрын
Bro won a playoff game as a rookie
@gdiZzy1
@gdiZzy1 29 күн бұрын
Disagree as a Packers fan we seen more than enough he is Rodgers 2.0 I don't get people you saw what's needed to be seen HE CAN THROW THE BALL!! SIMPLE any throw
@TheKnightofAwesomeness
@TheKnightofAwesomeness 28 күн бұрын
​@@skywalker2759They Both won a Playoff game still
@MajinMarcus_
@MajinMarcus_ 23 күн бұрын
@@gdiZzy1 I’m not saying Jordan isn’t good I’m saying we can’t say yet which one better than the other between him and CJ
@MajinMarcus_
@MajinMarcus_ 23 күн бұрын
@@skywalker2759 yeah but winning playoff games start to mean less and less as times goes. Just ask Rodgers
@aprilschwartz1672
@aprilschwartz1672 26 күн бұрын
The personality shines through and keeps viewers coming back.
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 28 күн бұрын
Former GM Mike T always shows why he's FORMER GM Mike T
@user-zp1pm8yc1r
@user-zp1pm8yc1r 29 күн бұрын
Lemarvolus “Action” Jackson can we stop being disingenuous . He’s one of the only QBs in the league with a MVP 4th best win percentage of all time
@205Chauncey
@205Chauncey 27 күн бұрын
U know ball
@Adam-xe5xm
@Adam-xe5xm 27 күн бұрын
in a redraft today? Cant do it with his age and potential durability/longevity concerns of his style of play. Same reason Burrow isnt in this conversation.
@user-zp1pm8yc1r
@user-zp1pm8yc1r 27 күн бұрын
@@Adam-xe5xm the difference is Lamar had a better win percentage with significantly less on offense. He missed the end of 3 seasons (1 dosent really count because they sat him year before last) what other QB in the league is asked to do as much as Lamar. The only guy you can say is DEFINITELY better then him is Patrick Mahomes everyone else literally everyone else is fighting to see who comes in third because it’s a closer gap from Lamar To Mahomes then Mahomes and any QB playing rn
@Adam-xe5xm
@Adam-xe5xm 27 күн бұрын
@@user-zp1pm8yc1r i dont think you understand the premise here. This his age, play style and injury history are you taking Lamar for the next 10 years? Of all the top qbs he's the one i expect to regress the most based off his play style
@user-zp1pm8yc1r
@user-zp1pm8yc1r 27 күн бұрын
@@Adam-xe5xm his winning is the reason you would. Are there any active Qbs rn with a better win percentage if u have ti bring up the greatest QB if all time that’s not an argument. 2 be hasn’t gotten injured because of his play style he got injured in the pocket every time he got hurt. He is only 26 what do you mean ?
@MultiMRSjames
@MultiMRSjames 29 күн бұрын
It’s the fact we have to exclude Mahomes from these conversations, Mahomes the goat !!!!!
@TheMegatron673
@TheMegatron673 24 күн бұрын
Not yet bro 😁
@getbrainseeds
@getbrainseeds 10 күн бұрын
@@TheMegatron673 he's not even close to brady these mahomes fans are delusional lol
@TheMegatron673
@TheMegatron673 10 күн бұрын
@@getbrainseeds It's like every team that faces the chiefs in the playoffs fold like cheap tents. Lamar jackson forgot how to use his legs, the bills lose against the chiefs as usual.
@kev792
@kev792 23 күн бұрын
Gimme Stroud 😤 Edit: Excluding the more older QBs, Lamar, burrow, Allen, etc
@django1826
@django1826 27 күн бұрын
And comments like that is why Mike Tennanbaum is not an NFL executive.
@Omariginal1
@Omariginal1 29 күн бұрын
Brock Prudy
@wisethabrain1100
@wisethabrain1100 29 күн бұрын
Josh Allen n Joe Burrow are all that come to mind
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie 29 күн бұрын
The white wizard and the white master are a great choice 🧐🚬
@wolfmanj12
@wolfmanj12 29 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchieYes race is always on your mind. Think like a normal person.
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie 29 күн бұрын
@@wolfmanj12 it's a scientific fact that more white QBs win more Superbowls then black African QBs and the numbers don't lie 🧐🚬
@36MIKET
@36MIKET 27 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchiethat’s also because most QBs are white. Until recently, there were like 4/5 starting QBs that are black and the rest are white. Those two mentioned are the same ones most would take anyway but Lamar would be taken and Stroud lit it up last year and Love starting to come around. Dak is hit or miss too.
@kevbiggz1928
@kevbiggz1928 21 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchiemore black receivers win superbowl than white receivers
@johndandrea8034
@johndandrea8034 27 күн бұрын
Love that Pen's jersery!!!!
@christineclark7560
@christineclark7560 24 күн бұрын
Purdy won his first playoff game as a rookie too…
@reallife0728
@reallife0728 28 күн бұрын
CJ STROUD IS DOPE BUT IT WAS HIS ROOKIE YEAR,,,,LETS SEE WHAT HE DOES NEXT YEAR,,,,YEAR OF FILM ON THE BOOKS!!!!
@aroujohnson8507
@aroujohnson8507 28 күн бұрын
Literally Jordan love rookie year in year 3
@LaRez2
@LaRez2 28 күн бұрын
Real ones know it’s Justin Herbert
@OhYeeeeaaahhhh
@OhYeeeeaaahhhh 25 күн бұрын
real gullible ones...
@LaRez2
@LaRez2 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@OhYeeeeaaahhhhwe got a little badass over here
@andrewstutz4240
@andrewstutz4240 24 күн бұрын
Justin Herbert with his 0 playoff wins 😂😂😂😂
@phillipramos7416
@phillipramos7416 26 күн бұрын
I’d love to ask Ryan how he feels talking football with two people who don’t understand it
@JuliusC1973
@JuliusC1973 24 күн бұрын
I love Seeing a Pittsburgh Steeler wearing a Pittsburgh Penguins Jersey!
@clintwarner3008
@clintwarner3008 29 күн бұрын
Stroud is nice. Im taking Jordan as well.
@aroujohnson8507
@aroujohnson8507 28 күн бұрын
Dumb
@ToddIrwin
@ToddIrwin 29 күн бұрын
Brock Purdy
@corbencarter-dixon5758
@corbencarter-dixon5758 22 күн бұрын
“I just want to know. Are you okay?” -Stephen A. Smith🤣
@BirdFromYakiVegas
@BirdFromYakiVegas 24 күн бұрын
Geez I haven't watched forever "did I seen a ghost?" I thought ESPN didn't extend Ryan Clark's contract. Glad to see him still getting his bread still! 💪🏽
@Big_Miks
@Big_Miks 29 күн бұрын
Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Stroud easily over love. EASILY
@Mubiki
@Mubiki 28 күн бұрын
No to Lamar. He is the Russel Westbrook of the NFL. Great at padding stats in the regular season, but his flaws will always come out against the best competition in the toughest games. Despite his regular seasons success, every critic is still correct. His failures as a pocket passer will eventually doom his teams in the playoffs. How many years in a row do people need to see this before they finally understand?
@MikkiChavez
@MikkiChavez 28 күн бұрын
Naw I'll take Love over all of them ESPECIALLY Burrow & Lamar lol Burrow has the best weapons in football & Lamar chokes. Allen is good tho.
@jordan12118
@jordan12118 29 күн бұрын
Lamar Jackson
@michaelf.bender3718
@michaelf.bender3718 29 күн бұрын
Nope. He choked in the playoffs.
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie 29 күн бұрын
Lmao the African quiter folds like a lawn chair in the playoffs 😅🚬
@cruzinthruspace
@cruzinthruspace 29 күн бұрын
​@@michaelf.bender3718You would kill for Lamar Jackson on your team f****** casual
@jordan12118
@jordan12118 29 күн бұрын
@@goodnightmunchieyou sound like a moron 😂
@jordan12118
@jordan12118 29 күн бұрын
@@michaelf.bender3718he has 2 MVPs. Show me the you by QB outside of Mahomes that has that 🤫
@austinleach5382
@austinleach5382 19 күн бұрын
Burrow literally turned around a whole franchise and was in a Super Bowl in his first full season. Lamar and Josh Allen had the best opportunity to beat the queefs at HOME in the PLAYOFFS
@Idealgentlemen_
@Idealgentlemen_ 29 күн бұрын
Watching certain people discuss sports knowing they are not good evaluators of talent, they’re just saying stuff for ratings really irk me……I’m confused at how people can just ignore eye test based on 1 or 2seasons😂😂😂…….Jordan love doesn’t belong in the same conversation as Joe burrow, Jared Goff…….he not even Josh Allen, Brock Purdy, or Lamar…….but just goes to show you just because you’re in the sports world doesn’t mean you know them, also explains why the jets are still the dumpster fire they still are today
@WSAMP24
@WSAMP24 29 күн бұрын
top 3 in order Mahomes, Burrow, Allen
@user-zp1pm8yc1r
@user-zp1pm8yc1r 29 күн бұрын
Only 1 of those guys has an MVP
@WSAMP24
@WSAMP24 29 күн бұрын
@@user-zp1pm8yc1r that is correct.
@sagemodegaming25
@sagemodegaming25 29 күн бұрын
You must be related to mike tannenbaum
@WSAMP24
@WSAMP24 29 күн бұрын
@@sagemodegaming25 why do you say that?
@MikkiChavez
@MikkiChavez 28 күн бұрын
Burrow is not a top QB at all.
@IVMON3Y
@IVMON3Y 20 күн бұрын
Mahomesboy not being in these convos boosts his aura🗿
@seroskal9354
@seroskal9354 23 күн бұрын
The number one way to announce to the world you have zero credibility without saying anything is to wear a Penguins jersey.
@Alexdad84
@Alexdad84 25 күн бұрын
1.Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Jackson 4. Burrow 5. Stroud 6. Love 7. Herbert . They're all young and great. Love hasn't proven enough
@renewd
@renewd 25 күн бұрын
The easiest prediction I ever made was that Stephen A. would choose C.J. Stroud.
@kevinchristensen4849
@kevinchristensen4849 28 күн бұрын
Stephen A. shared an incorrect statistic. He said, “43 Quarterbacks have been drafted since 2010. One has won a playoff game as a rookie, that’s CJ Stroud.” Has he already forgotten about Brock Purdy??
@jillrb7638
@jillrb7638 28 күн бұрын
Brock Purdy could make the superbowl 3 times out of the next 6 years and they still wouldn’t give him the respect he deserves. 🙄
@kevinchristensen4849
@kevinchristensen4849 24 күн бұрын
@@jillrb7638 facts. It’s criminal the disrespect he gets. Easily top 3 QB in the NFL over the last 2 seasons. Nearly every single stat and metric agrees to that.
@haydenparker8072
@haydenparker8072 25 күн бұрын
I love how Stephen a naming everything Cj done but love has accomplished nearly the same in one yr 😂😂😂 in all reality heading into this season Cj and love are gonna be compared like Hopkins and Davante were a couple hrs back
@arsirey
@arsirey 29 күн бұрын
Some people say that Brian Flores wanted to Draft Jordan Love. I personally believe he wanted Justin Herbert. But look at Jordan Love shining.
@HawgWyldFishing
@HawgWyldFishing 29 күн бұрын
Flores would’ve killed J Loves potential. The kid was super raw and needed those 3 years to be developed. If he puts him on the field like he did Tua, Love wouldn’t be more than a half functional back up today. His confidence would’ve been shot, and he’d be seeing ghosts. He’d be the ultimate worst combo of Mac Jones and Sam Darnold downsides, all wrapped up in one. But, it is true that Live is who Flores wanted. But it’s better for both Miamis team and Loves career today, that it didn’t happen.
@arsirey
@arsirey 29 күн бұрын
@@HawgWyldFishing Maybe so. But i believe he wanted Justin Herbert. And maybe Coach Flo would have killed Justin Herbert's start Also. But Well never Know
@Deon-nm7sq
@Deon-nm7sq 27 күн бұрын
Jimmy garoppolo has the 2nd most superbowls in the nfl im taking him
@ssolife9127
@ssolife9127 29 күн бұрын
I love seeing ppl like Jordan love but this is crazy 1 season really like let’s see if this can carry over to next season
@gdiZzy1
@gdiZzy1 29 күн бұрын
Doesn't take much to see that a guy has it clearly didn't watch how he throws the ball with pressure VERY Aaron Rodgers like is scary just admit it Packers did it again bro
@mitchellcarter2799
@mitchellcarter2799 28 күн бұрын
So like CJ shroud? If you would pick any QB to start a team After only one year, you’re stupid.
@mywifiiscoolerthanyours
@mywifiiscoolerthanyours 28 күн бұрын
must be nice to get paid handsomely for water cooler opinions😭😂
@parallelpost
@parallelpost 29 күн бұрын
Jordan Love should get paid Vinnie Testaverde's best payday.
@kjjones941
@kjjones941 24 күн бұрын
Nobody thought the packers were going to beat the cowboys. Stephen a definitely didn’t think so
@Soggs101
@Soggs101 29 күн бұрын
The Jordan Love glazing needs to stop please! Thank you Stephen A!
@DrGibberish30
@DrGibberish30 27 күн бұрын
I see you fans have not learned yet it's pathetic well see you guys again in the playoffs in 2024-25 go pack go
@davis2k1234
@davis2k1234 27 күн бұрын
@@DrGibberish30 By November Love will be a after thought to all the hype Caleb’s gonna be getting Mahomes 2.0 coming soon
@CDRNRashadNate
@CDRNRashadNate 16 күн бұрын
It’s funny because Green Bay said they were drafting Jordan love because they saw Patrick Mahomes tendencies….. I was laughing at first, but I have to apologize to Jordan.😢😢😢
@knytrix
@knytrix 20 күн бұрын
This dude said that after 50/5000 he hadn't shown him anything to make him a top QB. I wish I could be fcking terrible at my job and get paid so well.
@4wamps
@4wamps 26 күн бұрын
Ryan and SAS are going to look silly in 3 years when Love has an MVP and a Super Bowl appearance
@Kenny49ERS
@Kenny49ERS 28 күн бұрын
Dallas has played the Niners tough so they were a tough team… 😂 great analysis
@queboogaveli
@queboogaveli 29 күн бұрын
Neither houston nor GB ran the ball well last year lmaoooo
@damienhunter2199
@damienhunter2199 26 күн бұрын
Jordan love played good DOWN THE STRECH. Cj stroud played good OUT THE GATE.
@TheMichaelAcuna
@TheMichaelAcuna 15 күн бұрын
Mahomes the type of guy to drop his stats just to re enter the conversation
@NickGalvan-c5u
@NickGalvan-c5u Күн бұрын
If Joe burrows past injuries dont hinder his ability to play at a high level. He will become one of the greatest of all time
@jeffreytsangjr.6120
@jeffreytsangjr.6120 16 күн бұрын
Mike T talking bout Love cuz it’s a hot name he getting whooped first game of the year in Brasil
@michaelkearney1313
@michaelkearney1313 28 күн бұрын
Let’s not ignore the fact that Mahomes is so good people have to exclude him from these convos… and people won’t say he’s the goat because he doesn’t have 7 rings. Brady was never viewed as the best in the league when he played. He was a great winner. Mahomes is both. No contest imo
@drewmeyer9679
@drewmeyer9679 29 күн бұрын
Jordan ain’t a bad pick. He led his 7th seed over my 2nd seed DAL at their home which they were 16-0 and DAL had 9 all pros GB had 1.
@thestrategicoreo
@thestrategicoreo 28 күн бұрын
I love how everybody forgets about Joe Burrow 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gbossmanfree1034
@gbossmanfree1034 28 күн бұрын
He'll remind them this year
@KingKCA
@KingKCA 28 күн бұрын
People keep trying to elevate Jordan Love after that Cowboys game. The team was 9-8!! They’ll finish 2nd or 3rd in the division again
@tripdagrim2504
@tripdagrim2504 28 күн бұрын
Imma Packers fan but after Pat Mahomes I would take Burrow Herbert Jordan Love/Cj stroud Hurts Allen Tua Lamar
@lisabtheplug5630
@lisabtheplug5630 24 күн бұрын
I dont engage in topics like these cause all it shows is how many casuals are in the comments. Good 85% are stat watchers or TV watching. Mahomes most definitely skewered every other afc Qb too cause literally non has won it all and it takes time. A Qb can play well in playoffs then other ones and still haven't got it done by winning it. You need the perfect situation from team Qb coaching and health and chiefs playing badly in the post season to get to the bowl. Turn on film and you can see what's wrong in-depth with a lot of teams. Dont want to hear the lamar can't throw either cause its only him and Mahomes with the most tds thrown with fewer then 50 picks or less reg season and playoffs. Dont want to hear burrow underperforming in playoff 4th quarters with 0 tds and 4 turnovers. Turn on film you can see lamar struggles against press man especially when Wrs ravens have aren't the taller physical kind either so all they have to do is bottle the primary TE and press their Wrs and god forbid run game dont work then the offense is screwed. Bengals from burrow 4th quarter struggles comes from offensive talent slowing down heavily in the 4th and coaching being super conservative and burrow not taking the wide open mid range shots but throwing it to the flat that's covered. Theres more like josh Allen but im not gonna get into that its gonna be extra long. Literally open ur eyes and notice for the past 6 years its been Mahomes and Brady to win a bowl in the afc. Best Qb afc besides Mahomes is hard to say cause theres so much circumstances, realistically it would have to be lamar with the most achievements, burrow got an argument but its hard cause lamar is 8-2 vs burrow burrow beats allen, Allen beats lamar. But if ur gonna take everything into consideration then its lamar burrow then allen. Co shroud making his way up there soon.
@josephnieves4078
@josephnieves4078 27 күн бұрын
RC looks like a marvel character
@bakugosrage8976
@bakugosrage8976 18 күн бұрын
In the playoffs it will be Burrow, Allen, then Jackson. Burrow went to the Superbowl and Allen have a better record and stats than Jackson and Burrows combined in the playoffs.
@kateerahardcastle2040
@kateerahardcastle2040 20 күн бұрын
The Joe Burrow disrespect. He recording this and watching it on repeat.
@KLM7394
@KLM7394 26 күн бұрын
Burrow was the real deal 2nd year to the SB. He beat Mahomes to get there 🤷‍♂️ Hopefully they get better protection this season.
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