This All-New Ryzen 8840U X86 Board Is Fast & We Added An OCuLink GPU! Hands-On

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In this video we take look at new AMD Ryzen 7 8840U Powered SBC known as the ASRock 8840U 4X4. This has enough power to run AAA PC games like Cyberpunk, Fortnite, Helldivers 2 and more on the Radeon 780M gpu but we can also ad an OCuLink GPU like the GPD G1 Radeon RX 7600M XT! With 8 Zen 4 cores this little board packs a punch!
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@pedretejb2492 Ай бұрын

It runs Cyberpunk better than my whole pc 💀 bro

@abdullahrashid508 Ай бұрын

who hasked

@sikimasio Ай бұрын

@@abdullahrashid508 ur mother

@brokeandtired 29 күн бұрын

@@abdullahrashid508 touch yourself elsewhere.

@david.godbey Ай бұрын

Given that the link is to Asrock Industrial, I'm going to assume there's no easy path to ownership. At least, not as an individual hobbyist.

@WarkWarbly Ай бұрын

If you follow the link, at the bottom there's another link to the actual resellers. They kinda do the raspberry pi thing where they just host the specs and the reseller links. At the bottom of the reseller links page is a link directly to newegg (icky). The price hurts though- 600 bucks for barebones. Adding storage, ram, power supply brings the total to almost 800. Plus the cost of windows- bringing the total to almost a thousand all said and done.

@rkadi6540 Ай бұрын

And i doubt the price would be pocket friendly

@david.godbey Ай бұрын

@@rkadi6540 Probably not. I'm willing to bet that it'll be cheaper and easier buying a similar specced micro pc and just taking it out of its shell.

@kawag2780 Ай бұрын

Might be able to buy the mini PC version from Newegg. Seems to be launching over there tomorrow. Listed for 600USD.

@someguy3186 Ай бұрын

Yeah, if he’s going to make a video about products like these, he should at least be more informative on how to get them.

@JazzTechie Ай бұрын

Looks like the guts from a mini pc sold as a standalone board. I could definitely see using it in a creative tech project. Maybe also the GPU assuming there's a graceful way to route power to everything.

@tadmikowsky7520 Ай бұрын

yeah looks like the mini pc version is "ASRock Industrial 4X4 BOX-8840U". Found it on newegg, release date 5/10/2024

@bes12000 Ай бұрын

Since I use Linux as main OS for everything, always want to see one of these mini PC's run Linux and play games.

@univera1111 Ай бұрын

As you can see you dont get many likes. Alot of third world font even know Linux exist. Until we have standalone apps on linux that dont need internet to download from the repo. No usefulness of Linux. Id rather wait for Harmony OS.

@bes12000 Ай бұрын

@@univera1111 What are you on about?, windows apps work on my Linux OS easily right out of the box they install like a normal windows app and run like one also. Also there are multiple native photo editing and video editing apps, games run without any issues via steam, Heroic launcher and Lutris launcher. Also a lot of default apps come pre-installed on many common distros that are very useful.. mine pretty much IS windows, it even has a similar UI layout and start menu layout and file manager layout.

@Arxgxmi Ай бұрын

@@univera1111 linux is actually quite popular in India, if you look at the data.

@Arxgxmi Ай бұрын

@@univera1111 most popular distros come with office apps by default, which is all anyone doing a fresh install would want, just like on windows so don't get this point

@tauqeerdarve4876 Ай бұрын

@@univera1111Been using linux for 6 years now, I'm 19 lol. Never felt like I was missing out on anything although yes sometimes troubleshooting things is hectic and when I'm doing something out of the box and need old windows apps which sometimes don't run well on my pc (most people will never have the need for such stuff) but apart from that I have everything I need available to me. Linux has grown quite alot. People still think it's tough to use so that will take time. Although steam deck did make it a little more mainstream.

@andylaidb9 Ай бұрын

There is one thing I would like to point out. The interface of the connector on the backside of the motherboard is ESPI instead of SATA. It just happens to have same type of connector as the SATA connector they usually have on different 4X4 board.

@50H3i1 Ай бұрын

This is so tiny yet super powerful and easily extendable . I'm really excited for what future handhelds and phone gpus can do

@StrongFox-yv1vf Ай бұрын

I love AMD has done for the APU space. I am super excited for next GEN. Can’t wait to see your videos on it to

@Mchenrygames Ай бұрын

no matter how good an arm board may be, sometimes I just need to run x86 apps

@666Maeglin Ай бұрын

I could imagine it be mounted in a 3½" drive bay in an old retro style case together with a another standard motherboard to have a great combi use system

@ahilker1 Ай бұрын

You may be able to get that thing to boot using USB power if you change the tdp bios setting to "quiet mode".

@lalyulalev 29 күн бұрын

Hi nice video and interesting board! Will be great to get that Linux follow up and maybe test of some SAS/storage adapters on one of these NVME ports - board itself looks like a great candidate for small Proxmox host and adding an external SAS/SATA adapter only will allow you to convert it to excellent homelab server

@2cars10 Ай бұрын

Great candidate for a 3d printed case. Also i noticed that you were cpu bound with the Egpu which is pretty concerning for a moderately powerful card

@TheBlackCat1997able Ай бұрын

This is my life: 3:20 . You captured it perfectly...

@kryptonite7936 Ай бұрын

I like these smaller computers for using in the full size arcade builds but it does drive the price up a bit!

@MrGrimreach Ай бұрын

Love to see Bazzite run on it. :)

@F0XH0UND007 Ай бұрын

Or nobaraos steam deck edition

@danielhulan3058 Ай бұрын

@ETA PRIME, can you do a video that showcases the difference between usb 4 and oculink with egpus? I have a Legion Go and a Onexgpu and I was curious about the real world difference between the fps difference between oculink and usb 4/thunderbolt 3/4.

@juskim Ай бұрын

i think this may be the smallest SBC i've seen so far that can run AAA games with ease! so many things you can build with this thing :)

@7Wounds Ай бұрын

Exactly. You could do SO MUCH with this. This might by the perfect for a Virtual Pinball Table I'm planning, especially with the OcUlink

@betag24cn Ай бұрын

no sbc requires ram sticks, this is a minipc without a case

@Arxgxmi Ай бұрын

so what lol

@Arxgxmi Ай бұрын

@@7Wounds why would you need a 500+ USD CPU for a pinball

@7Wounds Ай бұрын

@@Arxgxmi you wouldn't I wasn't aware of the price at the time. This is the 1st time I've seen Oculink and it was an exciting prospect if you wanna do 4k tables etc.

@Mamiya645 29 күн бұрын

A quality 780m box with oculink like this feels like my jam for work and gaming, including VR on both. Sharp pixels good pixels..

@dannytapia1896 Ай бұрын

Great content! Can you run this using the low profile RTX 4060 card. I think that would be great to see such a small board using a RTX graphics card.

@LuminousSpace Ай бұрын

i saw ppl running oculink from m.2 with 4080 for sure this will support too

@murphyseanm Ай бұрын

If there was a way to get better cooler on there that would help as you could keep the chip boosting to 50w full time, even something like NH-L9 would be enough to hold that power level. Or just pair this with something like the 4060 SFF in a small case and it would be a champ.

@MikeMcMulholland Ай бұрын

I like your gaming choices.

@user-zx4tg2zv6v Ай бұрын

영상 잘 보고있습니다. 전부터 항상 궁금했는데 이런 싱글보드 컴퓨터는 주로 어디서 구매하시나요?

@Branchprediction Ай бұрын

Great video. As usual. MX Linux and Manjaro would be cool. Maybe a run on an LLM.

@floppa9415 Ай бұрын

The flexibility of X86 is just great. You can run pretty much any distro and any software.

@kevinmckenna5682 Ай бұрын

You should totally make a custom SFF build with this. Also, how much RAM can be allocated to the 780M? More than 8GBs?

@malypetu1409 26 күн бұрын

It'll be nice to know the cost of the parts used so we can compare it to other pre-built SBCs. Also, since you offer, it will be great to see Linux running to see the performance, particularly if you also install something like a Media server (Plex or similar). Great video review, I was surprised you can connect a GPU so easily.

@fuzzymuppet1990 Ай бұрын

Hopefully, "fingers crossed" ,that by the time 9th gen ryzen mobile apus come out, pcie 5.0 x4 nvme slots will trickle down to these smaller boards, since there already available on hedt mobos and 5.0x4 ssds already exist... that should kill 90% if the bandwidth issues with occulink or nvme adapters.

@DayDreamerVR Ай бұрын

I wonder how different his looks to other mini Pc's with their cases removed. I have a eg01h4 egpu case, and a PC like this would easily fit inside the case with my 4090, making an epic 9 litre 4090 PC all contained in the egpu case. You wouldn't need to run the oculink cable outside of it, but would need to sort any power button/usb/hdmi access. Is tempting though. With PC's like this, I believe it would now start to make sense to ship GPU's with the CPU etc built onto the GPU, and have different options/ram slots etc or have CPU modules or something to allow variations

@bgates275 Ай бұрын

Amazing what a difference a dedicated GPU makes to gaming.

@muhammadsyafiq1991 Ай бұрын

would you make a handheld for future project with the board?

@cellar-door Ай бұрын

Ooh, would be sick for some sort of handheld project monstrosity

@rustkitty Ай бұрын

How thick is it including the fan? I'm looking for something to fit in slimmer enclosure than your average mini PC, but I have footprint to spare.

@Dankasaurus6 Ай бұрын

I bet that would be a crazy powerful mini arcade machine

@stormeporm Ай бұрын

thats a really cool board. The cpu supports ecc does its mean the board does too?

@kendallkoga2028 11 күн бұрын

I'd love to see you do gaming Nobara on that

@MountKash1 Ай бұрын

*@ETA PRIME* If you have a RTX dual fan GPU. Like a 4070 TI Super. It'd be nice to see a tiny build (like the single fan 4060 tiny builds you've done). Whether it be in a super small sff case or a mini workstation style case. Backpack size 4070 build

@friendlyperson9841 Ай бұрын

This would be so cool with Bazite as a set top box connected to a tv.

@daveweinstein5044 2 күн бұрын

Nice video. I would love to see you run Linux on it. Would also love to see you trying some of the other cool SBCs like CWWK's X86-P5, which is an N305 SBC that can add a daughter board with 4x SSDs... that would be an interesting experiment to run TrueNAS or UNRAID on ;-)

@wyatt77777 Ай бұрын

I would be interested in Linux. I usually use Fedora, but Manjaro might give a fairer shake if you wait for Mesa 24.1 to come out first.

@4megii 28 күн бұрын

Yeah I'd love to see linux on this, with Oculink. I'm seriously considering getting rid of my big tower in favor for something like this. I'd still need some Sata however.

@omarcristaldo7103 6 күн бұрын

Love your mini pc's test with eGPU, and I think this setup even is not the focus of your channel is very good to make some AI, and run local LLM's or image models. The problem is that ollama, or comfyUI run better with Nvidia, and lot's of Vram. I wonder between all these small pc's what could be the best AI setup on a budget, with a small PC, and a modest Nvidia GPU, not top of the line but enough to run some LLM's or Stable diffusion at a reasonable speed. It really seems that if anyone have to change their PC now, they should go for a mini PC or a notebook with a free M.2 or oculink to add a eGPU, for gaming or for AI.

@Behnam_Moghaddam Ай бұрын

thanks. interesting little thing i wonder if it runs nobara

@Machinorio Ай бұрын

Where can I buy that maneki neko that shows up at 3:06 ?

@ImDembe Ай бұрын

That M.2 adapter looks like a PCI-E 3.0 adapter, this board + the new NUC 14 both deliver pci-e 4.0 via the 2242 M.2 port! I wish most of them would come with pci-e 5.0 by now...

@Neopulse00 Ай бұрын

The problem is licensing, it's too expensive still especially when PCIe 4.0 is relatively new for board makers.

@ReflexVE Ай бұрын

⁠It's not licensing. The integrated graphics versions of the Ryzen only support PCIe 4.0 for external I/O unfortunately. Hopefully that changes with Zen5.

@ImDembe Ай бұрын

@@ReflexVE You are correct, 20x 4.0 lanes in the 8xxx mobile systems. Meteor Lake H-cpus have 8x 5.0 support, U-models 20x 4.0. Both Intel and Amds latests stuff...the confusion at times...

@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын

😮

@scruffy3121 Ай бұрын

This could be a amazing Unraid NAS using external HDD enclosures.

@zombiewolf007 Ай бұрын

That oculink board is most likely 32gbps performance based on the parts Im looking at on Amazon. Only one amazon ad said 64gbps but I dont know if thats fake, because its the same model/part number as all of these other red colored oculink nvme m.2 adapters on Amazon. I ordered the part that claims its 64gbps and I'll test it when it gets delivered.

@vojtas_cz Ай бұрын

How doest those 55W on CPU happens while running CP with the Oculink?

@ancaxtx647 Ай бұрын

mr Eta. plz make DIY handhel gaming PC with this board 😁😁

@tommybronze3451 Ай бұрын

put proxmox on it and report idle power. Interested at how this would perform as a witness node.

@infectedmethod Ай бұрын

The future has arrived at last. What a time to be alive.

@user-fj8wr8jh4e Ай бұрын

Eh, the future was the mid 80s, then again in 2008. Its just repeating at this point. Get these computers down to $350 and im in.

@venanks Ай бұрын

Please do one with Linux. Points of interest would be, which distros supports the hardware out of the box, performance of different base distros - debian/ubuntu base, arch based, fedora basedand opensuset umbleweed :D

@BlackBlueColor Ай бұрын

I've about 50 tabs on Chrome looking for a mini PC and this is the best one.

@cobbinaloic Ай бұрын

I would love to see linux running on it. Also, I would love to know the power consumption on balanced mode.

@heyheyhophop Ай бұрын

"Can change the TDP across the board" -- nice pun there ;)

@notcorrect Ай бұрын

Since oculink is not hotswapable, why not use m.2 to pcie directly for this particular form factor?

@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын

Amazing 😍

@justinreynolds6318 Ай бұрын

The linked specifications page clearly states 1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN So NOT dual 2.5GbE

@fuadshiraliev6181 Ай бұрын

Which mini pc/ like nuke pc can emulate ps2 and wii u in 4k 60fps?☺️

@binaryburnout3d 18 күн бұрын

where can we buy this? im thinking putting a NVME to Sata card and make a linux server with it.

@DR35Era 24 күн бұрын

Could these work with an arc card with an oculink?

@dresalvator9075 Ай бұрын

But can it run Crysis?

@spokehedz Ай бұрын

I'd want to see Linux, but I would also like to know if this would be a good use for a moderate NAS/Media center situation with hardware transcoding and performance.

@Hugh_I 29 күн бұрын

On the transcoding side I'd say pretty good, as you get all the hardware accell you get from any RDNA3 GPU (including AV1), and even for software transcoding this would be decent with 8 zen4 cores. As for NAS storage, it depends on how much storage you want. If you're fine with two NVMEs or one NVME and say 4 SATA drives or so over an M.2 SATA controller/adapter, it would totally work. However I would rather go with a micro-ATX baord, or at least a mini-ITX, and a desktop Ryzen CPU (has more PCIE lanes) for any NAS really, as you'll have more SATA ports out of the box and options to add additional SATA-controllers, NVME drives or faster ethernet on the PCIe slot(s).

@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh Ай бұрын

Emulation test please ChimeraOS gaming test please 😁🥺

@nitrobear 27 күн бұрын

I’m assuming that the difference in performance here is because it’s using SODIMM at 5600mhz instead of soldered ram at higher speeds

@666Maeglin Ай бұрын

Is it the stx formfactor?

@rogerthomas7040 Ай бұрын

Note, the ethernet ports are 1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN, not dual 2.5.

@phxrider950 Ай бұрын

It's cool, but why wouldn't you just grab the Minisforum with Oculink and a 7840hs (considerably faster) for $400 barebones?

@AKG58Z Ай бұрын

Did you happen to mention the Price ?

@nialltracey2599 Ай бұрын

The term SBC is supposed to mean that it isn't a motherboard you have to plug stuff into. Usually you get away with having to fit in a harddrive or SSD, but I think having to plug in memory modules breaks the definition.

@danielpicassomunoz2752 16 күн бұрын

Any non powerful amd SBC with CSI port?

@pironiero Ай бұрын

HOW MUCH?

@badwolfplays9751 Ай бұрын

You should try Garuda Gaming Linux on this one. Better than Manjaro for gaming in my opinion. At least on PC.

@johnhenrix3894 Ай бұрын

I might just buy this setup for lower power consumption.

@user-pn9mw2fd9g Ай бұрын

ECC support?

@jennyrosedeleon2557 Ай бұрын

seeing the G1 used always gets me excited for Minisforum's HX200G...

@Movies4118 Ай бұрын

Nice SBC and review. But realtek NICs is a major let down.

@wric01 Ай бұрын

Someone please make a silent passive mod for it. Need a silent desktop daily audiophile setup and option to crank it up for gaming with oculink.

@seangallagher515 Ай бұрын

when does it come out i want to buy one

@onizuka4534 Ай бұрын

I wish there was some new Oculink with PCIeX x8-x16, so we could use these small systems and 100% of external GPU power

@phxrider950 Ай бұрын

Then it wouldn't be oculink

@bemutatoktesztek4163 Ай бұрын

CPU AND GPU celsius?

@pepin2089 Ай бұрын

Install Arch Linux and try emulation on Linux and Windows. SteamOS too. Good video.

@kevinroosa1315 Ай бұрын

Ubuntu 24.04LTS just came out. New kernel! It seems a bit zippier overall.

@treepizzle Ай бұрын

Install a Linux front end for an arcade. Seems like that would be the use case. No?

@alexandrunistoroiu452 Ай бұрын

Supports well A.I.?

@nerdyhooligan-3740 Ай бұрын

Where Do you buys this ??

@Crustenscharbap Ай бұрын

I wish there would be any possibility to put this PC into a fanless case. 42W is not hard to cool without any fans.

@rahmanlinux9602 Ай бұрын

Could you pls test this board using Pop OS linux by system76

@tschorsch Ай бұрын

It would great to see this running under Linux, with and without the GPU.

@Jimster481 29 күн бұрын

What about running like SteamOS?

@exodous02 Ай бұрын

Dang, I bet this is like unobtainium. Is there a mini PC speced like this? Minisforum doesn't seem to have a 8840U yet. Their tablet is but I don't really want to pay for the screen. I guess in a month Minishforum would have one anyway. EDIT: If you search 4X4-8840U it looks like newegg has a mini PC by asrock specked exactly the same. I don't think it's the exact same board, the layout is mirrored, which could be the pictures are reversed. This board doesn't have a audio jack though where the minPC does. $600 though, not cheap.

@FirstFusion222 Ай бұрын

How much does it cost?

@ShaunaJagan Ай бұрын

1:11 You said it has 2 slots, but what about that 3rd connection? Am I missing something?

@damageinc81292 2 күн бұрын

It has 2 m.2 slots. He's using one for an SSD and one for occulink. The third port is the sata 2.5 connection

@Propganda Ай бұрын

I don't think the ethernet is dual 2.5 (seems to be 1x2.5 & 1x gigabit - both realtek)

@DoubleDrastik Ай бұрын

This chip performs like the z1 extreme in my ally maybe a lil better . Id say these ryzen 8 series is amd’s awnser to getting a serious leg up on nvidia and intel. I just hope they stop thinking in a box and start using the leverage they have now to pursued the consumer. And make the 780m grapchics a standard thing. For their low end and lets say just skip the whole low end for apu’s and high range offer a ryzen 7 and 9 apu. And then the big hitters without igpu as in tge x versions and x3d If they give very capable apu’s on 200 and 300 and like 400-450 dollar/euro On the am5 platform. I see them really turning the table