EU Elections: Why the Left Did Surprisingly Well in the Nordics

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You will have already heard a lot about EU elections: from the rise of the right, Macron's sudden election, and Germany's AfD. But, the Nordics appeared to have gone into the opposite direction than the rest of Europe with left-wing, green, and far-left parties all making gains.
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1 - results.elections.europa.eu/en/
2 - www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/...
3 - yle.fi/a/74-20093060
4 - www.euractiv.com/section/poli...
5 - www.fondapol.org/en/study/dan...
6 - unherd.com/newsroom/swedish-s...
7 - www.dn.se/sverige/lawen-redar...
8 - pov.international/pia-olsen-d...
00:00 - Introduction
00:56 - Context
02:58 - Why the Left Did Well
06:24 - Conclusion
06:53 - Sponsored Content

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@TLDRnewsEU
@TLDRnewsEU 10 күн бұрын
CLARIFICATION: At 1:22 in this video, we say that Sweden had the most left-leaning results of any EU country. This is true, but it was equalled by Portugal, which also gave 10 out of 21 seats to left-wing and far-left parties. Eight seats went to the Partido Socialista (which sits in the EU's Socialists & Democrats bloc), one seat went to the Bloco de Esquerda (which sits in the EU's Left bloc), and one seat went to the Unitary Democratic Coalition (which also sits in the EU's Left bloc). Thanks for watching!
@daa3930
@daa3930 10 күн бұрын
4:09 Riikka Purra's name was misspelled. The double consonants are very important in Finnish pronunciation (you can try this by setting google translate's language to Finnish and put the variations there). Also, 6:14, might have been very illustrative to point out that Anderson got 13.5% of the popular vote, so she alone could technically be 3rd largest party in these elections. Or in other words... it wasn't that the "green/left" was doing quite well in these elections (the green party actually went down for 4.7 percentage points from last elections), but Anderson herself did phenomenally well.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 10 күн бұрын
Must have been because I came very near to it’s border when on Holliday in North Spain in May. 😁
@cwpv2477
@cwpv2477 10 күн бұрын
since the 20th century political science and reality says it does not make sense at al to have a one dimensional definition of politics. At least 2 dimensional is the norm. Everyone including politics and media fails to recognise this and reduces the political discourse into two vague words that mean different things every 50 years.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 10 күн бұрын
@@cwpv2477 meaning? 🤣
@cwpv2477
@cwpv2477 10 күн бұрын
@@marcbrasse747 the whole conversation is limited by wrong perception and stereotypes.
@kevinmattsson5718
@kevinmattsson5718 10 күн бұрын
Small Note, the only party in Sweden which actually lost a mandate was the Christian Democrats (KD), meanwhile the Left Party (V) gained a seat, so overall the mandates didn't change dramatically.
@LeonClaesson
@LeonClaesson 10 күн бұрын
But the left party was very close to 3 mandates
@TheBooban
@TheBooban 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, but it should have shifted right. This is why Sweden doesn’t look like Sweden anymore. They doing it to themselves.
@fra604
@fra604 10 күн бұрын
​@@TheBoobanYou're not even Swedish, are you?
@RuLeZ1988
@RuLeZ1988 10 күн бұрын
@@TheBooban BS, sweden is currently doing very well.
@TheBooban
@TheBooban 10 күн бұрын
@@fra604 I’m a Swedish immigrant so watch out your bigoted assumptions.
@Raprada
@Raprada 10 күн бұрын
I love the Swedes’ Eurovision-style exit poll reveal more than I should
@timonix2
@timonix2 10 күн бұрын
That's how all elections should be presented
@BigmanDogs
@BigmanDogs 10 күн бұрын
What do you mean with "reveal more than I should"
@duolingo0552
@duolingo0552 10 күн бұрын
That was exactly how I expected the Swedes to do it lol
@noone-pl2gj
@noone-pl2gj 10 күн бұрын
Finland does it too
@pontusleblanc1481
@pontusleblanc1481 10 күн бұрын
@@BigmanDogs "exit poll-reveal more than I should"
@terryaltherr2481
@terryaltherr2481 10 күн бұрын
I was confused why you didn't talk about Norway and I remembered Norway isn't an EU member lol
@vem9583
@vem9583 10 күн бұрын
In Finland, right-wing voters were not as invested in the election as leftists, and the Left Alliance leader Andersson is extremely popular, getting nearly 14% of all votes just by herself, the most ever in a Finnish election outside the presidential elections.
@noone-pl2gj
@noone-pl2gj 10 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say that, Kokoomus voters always go out. When turn-out is low, the center-right usually perform better. It's just that the Finns Party didn't go vote
@vem9583
@vem9583 10 күн бұрын
@@noone-pl2gj I meant the far right, the Finns. Kokoomus are the most active followed by leftists
@NukeCloudstalker
@NukeCloudstalker 10 күн бұрын
Same in Denmark. 46% of the population didn't vote, and frankly, the right-wing in Denmark has been in shambles (no coherent vision, empty rhetoric and broken promises.). Right wing of Denmark would rather not vote, than vote for people pretending to pander to them.
@noone-pl2gj
@noone-pl2gj 10 күн бұрын
@vem9583 oh of course, yeah. their turnout is all over the place. sometimes they go, sometimes not
@vem9583
@vem9583 10 күн бұрын
@@noone-pl2gj they rarely go, the recent parliament election was more of an exception and it was mostly dissatisfied Centre voters who went to vote for the Finns out of spite
@larsnilsson138
@larsnilsson138 10 күн бұрын
I'm Swedish and I think your analysis is accurate. Well done! However, I might add that historically there has only been a weak correlation between results in the EU-elections and in the elections for our national parliament. In our national elections there is often a fair amount of tactical voting.
@Neater_profile
@Neater_profile 10 күн бұрын
It's not "tAcTicAl vOotInG" it is just leftism for thee but not for me.
@mr.mystery9338
@mr.mystery9338 10 күн бұрын
​@@Neater_profile is it not leftism for me and not for thee? Im confused.
@bernardovital3170
@bernardovital3170 10 күн бұрын
why swedish people do not vote for conservatives ?? i ask as a portuguese
@mr.mystery9338
@mr.mystery9338 10 күн бұрын
@@bernardovital3170 because it is EU elections and they do not care.
@Giopox
@Giopox 9 күн бұрын
swedenistan 😂 33% population no european 800 000 muslim , 77 000 somalien shame scnadinav white women welcome refugees
@jonahthrane812
@jonahthrane812 10 күн бұрын
As a dane i am pretty into danish politics, and if you look into the policies of even our "socialist" parties they are also very anti-immigrant. We have an EU test organised by "altinget", a newspaper in denmark, and they make questions, which the politicians answer, those questions included questions on immigration. Youre then supposed to take the test yourself, and figure out who you most agree with. But you can also just see all the politicians answers. The main kandidate for the danish social democrats answered very anti-immigration on all migration related questions. 1: Eu should have more boats in the Mediterranean to save the migrants? She answered disagree. 2: We should have migrant centers outside of the eu. She said agree. In denmark even the leftist parties are against migration, which most leftists parties arent in most of europe, which is why right parties have seen a surge in the rest of europe. 4/6 main candidates for left leaning parties all answered agree or strongly agree to having asylum centers outside of the EU. I cant speak for sweden, but in denmark every party is more or less for deporting migrants if not at minimum illegal migrants, and immigrants of all sorts who have been caught in criminal acts. So if youre already a socialist, and want stronger immigration policies, you dont have to change sides in denmark, because even socialist parties want fewer immigrants.
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 10 күн бұрын
"Socialist"
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 10 күн бұрын
Is that why Copenhagen's housing is unaffordable?
@jonahthrane812
@jonahthrane812 10 күн бұрын
@@jasonhaven7170 why "socialist"?
@jonahthrane812
@jonahthrane812 10 күн бұрын
@@jasonhaven7170 I dont know what in my comment made you think about housing in copenhagen.. but there are many reasons why housing in copenhagen is so expensive.
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 10 күн бұрын
@@jonahthrane812 They're not socialist.
@xSimonTan
@xSimonTan 10 күн бұрын
SVT making everything Eurovision is so funny
@souvikrc4499
@souvikrc4499 8 күн бұрын
Really wish we had the same treatment for our elections here in the US
@Xeno_fqxb
@Xeno_fqxb 8 күн бұрын
@@souvikrc4499 THE POINTS FROM CALIFORNIA GOES TO ...
@TainDK
@TainDK 7 күн бұрын
@@Xeno_fqxb ROFL - Nice one
@Tintelinus
@Tintelinus 4 күн бұрын
We may have an addiction please send help
@biggiec8224
@biggiec8224 3 күн бұрын
​@@souvikrc4499Isn't it already like that in the US?
@khatack
@khatack 10 күн бұрын
The nationalists of nordics tend to be pretty anti-eu, the voters more so than the parties themselves, and thus as some sort of protest they tend to not vote in EU elections.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 10 күн бұрын
In Finland, for example, the "nationalist" Finns party watered down their anti-EU rhetoric and goals quite a lot for this election, and also kept going along with the elite's very aggressive anti-Russia rhetoric while having been critical of NATO for many years before. Predictably, this alienated much of their voter base and they took a massive loss.
@bt3743
@bt3743 10 күн бұрын
​@@hyhhy How does putins boot taste
@Greksallad
@Greksallad 10 күн бұрын
​@@hyhhy The Sweden Democrats also toned down their anti-EU rhetoric, to the point where they're officially not even against EU membership anymore. Which I find hilarious because the party leader Jimmie Åkesson claims SD's stance on the EU was the main reason he joined the pretty openly racist party in 1995.
@americaninternationalist1917
@americaninternationalist1917 10 күн бұрын
@@hyhhyI’ve seen people on the right start to realize that while populism is a good starting point, populism alone is a dead end
@mr.mystery9338
@mr.mystery9338 10 күн бұрын
​@@americaninternationalist1917 true, it is how the austrian painter got to be chancellor
@lmao4982
@lmao4982 10 күн бұрын
Sweden also had a huge 'strong candidate effect' in jonas sjöstedt who was previously the leader of the left party, and who always polled ridiculously well
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 10 күн бұрын
Finland had basically the exact same thing with Li Andersson (who is a Swedish-speaker by the way). But people did not choose to vote for these leftist leaders so much just because they're "cool" or "smart" people.
@gustavsturksteinwall4027
@gustavsturksteinwall4027 7 күн бұрын
He is also the only representative from the north, a region that has been historically very underrepresented in Swedish politics. Might explain why Jonas’ Left Party almost got as many votes over here as the Social Democrats.
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 6 күн бұрын
You can probably say the same about the Christian party with Alice Teodorescu Måwe. They were so close to fall below the bar of entry and i firmly think she had enough "pull factor" to keep them in there. I don't really like her very much but she's rather popular on the right, probably popular enough to steal some votes from other parties mainly the Sweden Democrats.
@knightofsvea604
@knightofsvea604 4 күн бұрын
Sjöstedt*
@lmao4982
@lmao4982 3 күн бұрын
@@knightofsvea604 oh damn i actually thought something looked off with the spelling, checked the "edt" and thought it was correct Oops
@loerl
@loerl 10 күн бұрын
@0:28 This is wrong. The center-right Finnish Coalition Party, whose emblem is shown here, didn't lose vote share. Instead, the populist right wing ECR Finns Party lost big time.
@adamcrookedsmile
@adamcrookedsmile 10 күн бұрын
Which parties in Finland are populist left?
@domenstrmsek5625
@domenstrmsek5625 10 күн бұрын
Why Finns failed
@domenstrmsek5625
@domenstrmsek5625 10 күн бұрын
Left Finland?
@loerl
@loerl 10 күн бұрын
@@adamcrookedsmile The Left Party, Vasemmistoliitto, could be considered one. However I must say (biasedly) that the party approaches issues from a systematical and analytically honest perspective.
@loerl
@loerl 10 күн бұрын
@@domenstrmsek5625 Potential reasons: 1 Finns used to be very anti-EU, pushing a narrative of "everything bad comes from EU", which has traditionally made the voters hesitant to vote in EU elections. 2 Finns used to maintain an image of being for the average joe. In the acting government coalition, they have went along with austerity politics, their chair embracing cutting from the poor, which may have led to alienating voters. 3 EU elections gather more interest from the educated demographic with background in university, open-mindedness and critical thinking, in which Finns are middle of the pack. 4 It has been argued that Finns didn't have an attractive list of star politicians as candidates. In comparison, the winners of the election in Finland, the Coalition Party and the Left, have been (1) pro-EU, (2) consistent in the image they upheld and the voter base they maintain, (3) attractive towards high income and/or culturally aware voters and (4) they had candidates loved and appreciated by the people in general, both having presidential candidates from earlier this year as massive vote-pullers.
@merdufer
@merdufer 10 күн бұрын
6:00 "Li Andersson, the leader of the socialist left alliance" is one confusing sentence to hear for people familiar with UK politics.
@ChrisMcCray1
@ChrisMcCray1 9 күн бұрын
I had to pause and replay that bit a few times. It is such a strange thing to hear if you're British!
@tommi7904
@tommi7904 7 күн бұрын
Hi, a Finn here. I'm not familiar with UK politics. Why was it confusing?
@merdufer
@merdufer 7 күн бұрын
@@tommi7904 Lee Anderson is a UK politicians who went from centre left to centre right to far right.
@tommi7904
@tommi7904 7 күн бұрын
@@merdufer thanks mate
@fritsdaalmans5589
@fritsdaalmans5589 2 күн бұрын
@@tommi7904 Because it said "alliance" and the UK politics' "First-Past-The-Post" system is based on all the parties being an enemy of each other, they don't work constructively, but they have to be against "the enemy" even if it makes their country go to hell. "Coalition" is a dirty word in the UK.
@jeffafa3096
@jeffafa3096 10 күн бұрын
Something similar also happened in The Netherlands: The biggest party in our national elections was the PVV (by far), but the biggest party in our EU elections was GL-PvdA, also with a low turnout rate.
@bobjenkins884
@bobjenkins884 10 күн бұрын
Seems like a similar thing to US Mid Terms. The opposition party has a major advantage in turnout.
@TugaAvenger
@TugaAvenger 10 күн бұрын
@@bobjenkins884 But the Dutch elections were 6 months ago. The new government isn't even in power yet. This wasn't a punishment against an incumbent.
@bobjenkins884
@bobjenkins884 10 күн бұрын
@@TugaAvenger I didn’t know that
@andrepettersson175
@andrepettersson175 10 күн бұрын
It is important to point out EU elections do not translate to national elections in Sweden. Something like what happened in France where new elections would never be called based on EU election results for example. People acting like the national elections will swing left now because of the EU vote but to put it into context the last times the greens did well in an EU election 15% in 2014 their national election results that same year was 6.89%. It just dosen't translate.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Voters tend to prioritize slightly different things internationally versus internally, but they rarely move from left to right between elections. You could, for example, think that climate change needs to be addressed at the EU level, labor policy at the national level, and social services at a local level.
@seneca983
@seneca983 9 күн бұрын
For me, the most surprising part of the results here in Finland was that the Left Alliance got more seats than the Social Democrats.
@tjay84
@tjay84 9 күн бұрын
I can’t speak for all nordic countries.. But the two most important issues in Denmark were Climate Change and Defence (i.e Russia, and support for Ukraine). Both are topics that the right don’t tend to excel at..
@RabbitShirak
@RabbitShirak 10 күн бұрын
The Finns Party, it could be that their voters don't care for EU elections. Or, their popularity has dropped because they're in the government now. Hard to say which is it or maybe even both.
@Tingletonttu
@Tingletonttu 10 күн бұрын
The Finns typically underperforms in EU elections for a number of reasons. A drop down to 7% is still extraordinary.
@user-df1ns1ob8y
@user-df1ns1ob8y 10 күн бұрын
Considering that they lost nearly half their votes, it‘s probably both.
@emperor_msk
@emperor_msk 10 күн бұрын
It is largely both. Majority of the people here are just tired of their bullshit at this point. Shows even in national polls where they just keep losing support while parties like Left Alliance and SDP gain support.
@noone-pl2gj
@noone-pl2gj 10 күн бұрын
it's both
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
Government coalitions are a lot more negotiable in Finland, I think? In Sweden the blocks quickly cement.
@CroatianUltraNationalist
@CroatianUltraNationalist 8 күн бұрын
50% is not a low turnout at all, in croatia during our EU elections only 21% of the people voted.
@Moon_x_sun
@Moon_x_sun 8 күн бұрын
Its low compared to our general elections. Normally in Denmark its like 89% turn out so its lower than normal yk. Thats also what he Said :)
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Good point, EU parliamentary election turnout is always lower than in national or regional elections. Low is not good but it is normal. I bet the right wing will be awake in the Nordics the next time around and vice versa elsewhere
@magnuscarlsson9969
@magnuscarlsson9969 6 күн бұрын
50% in countries who usually have 85-95% election turn out is quite significant. This usually means that it's more a matter of rallying the voters to even turn up then to convince them to vote for a political party. Here in Sweden for example the Greens ain't usually super popular but they really managed to get their voters out for the EU election which made them get a far larger vote-% then usual... usually they are at around the break point(4%) in national elections fluctuating between 4-6%, for them to have 13% in this election probably boils down mostly to lower voter turn outs then anything else.
@trist6073
@trist6073 10 күн бұрын
The conservatives in Denmark, whoose logo was shown in the beginning did not loose vote share
@dogblessamerica
@dogblessamerica 10 күн бұрын
I spat my tea when I thought you said Lee Anderson. I guess Li Anderson from Finland has slightly different politics.
@Tay12345
@Tay12345 10 күн бұрын
LOL same
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Somewhat, yes 😅
@Korfax124
@Korfax124 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark they only gained power and influence and when the far right party became the second largest party in Denmark (largest on the right) they simply did not join in to form a government. If you're the largest party on your side there's an unspoken rule that you take charge to form or join a government coalition! Especially when so many people vote for you to lead the country...
@karimabidi8312
@karimabidi8312 10 күн бұрын
It's better not to join a government when you have to betray your voters for that coalition. Edit: you can see in germany what happens with social democrats and greens who have to make compromises with economically liberal parties like FDP
@wile123456
@wile123456 10 күн бұрын
Well they did have power for almost 2 decades, being a support party of right wing governments. However after they became so large and didn't form a government, they almost went extinct, had multiple other fascist parties appear and take votes from them. Now they survive, but infighting on the right is still the norm, with each party competing on who can be the most racist, most denying of climate change and most populist for rural poor voters
@Korfax124
@Korfax124 10 күн бұрын
@@wile123456 when they had to choose a new party leader and one of the candidates started talking about The Great Replacement conspiracy theory I knew they were completely lost...
@Mark-gd2ti
@Mark-gd2ti 10 күн бұрын
​@@wile123456wait until Muslims become a majority... Conservative Christians and Muslims can still agree on some things.... You have zero chances to last. I read the Quran.... You clearly have no idea what it's in there and Muslims should follow sharia otherwise they should explain Allah why they don't follow his LAW. Christians don't have a Law to follow for the simple fact that Jesus is clearly against the old testament so it becomes complicated.
@magnushmann
@magnushmann 10 күн бұрын
@@Korfax124 I'm curious what part of it you think is a conspiracy, because different people seem to say different things on this and others intentionally obfuscate. Is different people groups, notably immigrants and natives, having different birthrates, which when doing the maths, would eventually result in something that might be described as a "replacement", if nothing is put in place to diminish it a conspiracy in itself? *Or* is it mostly just the idea that this is highly intentional and planned by some shadow government or the deep state or the Illuminati or whatever they wanna call them this week?
@hassetjifrebro8222
@hassetjifrebro8222 10 күн бұрын
As a swede. The main issue that I rarely see talked about is that the Swedish democratic voter base just didn’t vote. Only the greens really outperformed the polls. Having dropped a Swexit demand their base just didn’t show up. 50% of the people voted and the polls were roughly correct except for the greens and SD. The recent national poll put them back close to 20%. The Greens really did an incredible job galvanising their base to get out and vote.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 10 күн бұрын
I think it mostly has to do with the new migration pact in the EU being approved (that made migration policy on a EU level quite irrelevant in the debates, because it’s a sealed deal the 2024-2029 term) and Sweden having a significantly tougher migration policy and a very low rate of migration right now as a result of the conservative government (net negative asylum migration for the first time in modern Swedish history). Which I think affected voter priorities due to polls showing migration not being in the top 10 of what voters thought was the most important topic. Also, I think the Sweden democrats being part of the parliamentary support for the government and cooperating with them regarding policy gives them less of a rebellious/dissident image that makes it less appealing to vote for them - as well as some right wing voters being affected by the ECR group members being quite anti-Ukraine and pro Russia and uncomfortable with voting SD.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 10 күн бұрын
In Finland, the "right-wing populist" Finns party also dropped their Fixit goal and took a massive loss. The "left-wing populist" Left party, which is seen as the least pro-NATO party now, gained massively.
@antonkarlsson7664
@antonkarlsson7664 10 күн бұрын
As a Swede, I think that being even more extreme won't help Sweden Democrats. They are successful when they tidy up, act seriously and cooperate with other right wing parties. This campaign, they tried waging war against the media and other parties, and also talked about extreme "replacement theories". Only their core base turned up because of that. It doesn't appeal to the ordinary Swedish voter.
@hassetjifrebro8222
@hassetjifrebro8222 10 күн бұрын
@@antonkarlsson7664 That argument would make sense if they're hurting in the polls. But they're not. They're still around 20%.
@antonkarlsson7664
@antonkarlsson7664 10 күн бұрын
@@hassetjifrebro8222 From a poll conducted before the election, so it means nothing. Furthermore, even that poll shows that the left wins easily, so being 20% (which doesn't show up to vote, as the election shows) means nothing if the left side is leading. Scaring away liberal voters with extremism is a bad idea if Sweden Democrats wants to win.
@MachivelianBear
@MachivelianBear 10 күн бұрын
“Vaccinated against the The far-rigth” while stating they have been in government. Then shows Danish DF-party which famously has never been in government XD
@RushaMan
@RushaMan 10 күн бұрын
Fedt, mere islam i Danmark.
@asukawakanne
@asukawakanne 10 күн бұрын
@@RushaMan Don't worry the center left in denmark is comparatively hard on immigration especially cf. with other euro countries
@vincentphilippart4669
@vincentphilippart4669 10 күн бұрын
They have not been in government, but supported hmgovernments from the outside, having their policies enacted without facing the test of power.
@lullaby218
@lullaby218 10 күн бұрын
Your country needs to find Christ again.
@MachivelianBear
@MachivelianBear 10 күн бұрын
@@vincentphilippart4669 that is just parliamentarianism for you. By that Logic Enhedslisten(communist’s) have have had the power from 2019-2022.
@daniel-vr2pw
@daniel-vr2pw 5 күн бұрын
Denmark's social democrats aren't really left at this point
@missa2855
@missa2855 4 күн бұрын
They sure as fuck are when it comes to taking more of my money! Sure they make anti immigration election promises (that they don't really keep), which is a little right wing. But that doesn't change the fact that they are obsessed with using other people's money. The only reason we are getting a few tax breaks rn is because of venstre and moderaterne...
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
One of my friends think the scand socialist parties have parked themselves right in the center spot. The libertarians in Swedish C thought they could challenge that.
@daniel-vr2pw
@daniel-vr2pw 2 күн бұрын
@@SusCalvin For some reason, it's really popular to pretend to be red, but actually just implement center-right policy.
@icebox1954
@icebox1954 14 сағат бұрын
@@daniel-vr2pw It's still left but centre left. The left hasn't actually gone right that much except for immigration which every party needs to be against.
@daniel-vr2pw
@daniel-vr2pw 12 сағат бұрын
​@@icebox1954 I agree the left hasn't gone right, but the social democrats have, though. Still preferable to any of the other right-wing parties.
@K1989L
@K1989L 10 күн бұрын
Li Andersson is probably the most loved politician in Finland. She gets votes over party limits. She was amazingly popular in this election. She broke the old record almost by a 100 000 votes! She got total just shy of 250 000 votes, pulling two other left candidates into EU! All this while the far right Perusuomalaiset lost a seat. Also the "religious" party Kristillisdemokraatit lost their only seat. Kristillisdemokraatit really is just another right wing conservative party.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Government accountability -- or government responsibility as we call it -- has hurt KD
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 6 күн бұрын
There is no Far-Right in Finland, and "Perusuomalaiset" are barely on the Right in the first place. "Kristillisdemokraatit" are not Right wing either. Regardless, I wonder if people would have known that Li Andersson is openly a Marxist... would people still vote for her.
@otherhouse
@otherhouse 6 күн бұрын
​@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Li Andersson is not marxist. Besides when a party is right or left-wing, it isn't solely tied to their economic policies, but to their social values and parties they form governments with.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 5 күн бұрын
@@otherhouse _"Li Andersson is not marxist."_ According to her own words, she certainly is.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 5 күн бұрын
@@otherhouse _"but to their social values and parties they form governments with."_ Social values have nothing to do with the left/right spectrum, which is about political policies and economics.
@seb7271
@seb7271 10 күн бұрын
In Sweden, it was seemingly exclusively an issue of voter turnout. Traditionally left leaning areas (meaning inner cities) saw voting turnout as high as 70-80% while areas with more pro right wing voters saw a turnout as low as 30% in some cases. And to ascribe this to political policy during the election doesn’t seem very accurate as this isn’t something new. The last EU election was practically the same when it came to the over representation of voters in major cities.
@tveir7678
@tveir7678 10 күн бұрын
This is the first time the Swedish far right has lost electoral support since they got into parliament in 2010. And traditional left leaning areas includes the rural north. The Left Party was almost as big as the social democrats in Västerbotten this election.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy 10 күн бұрын
The "far right" in Nordics watered down their criticism of NATO and EU a lot. Whereas the "far right" in Germany and France keeps it up.
@seb7271
@seb7271 10 күн бұрын
@@tveir7678 The “rural north” is very sparsely populated and the vast majority of the population inhabits a small number of (mostly) coastal cities. The example of Västerbotten that you brought up has nearly 80% of its population in its coastal municipalities, with 1/3-1/2 of the total population living in the two largest cities. The actual rural areas of Västerbotten and Norrbotten has some of the lowest turnout rates in the country. If I’m not mistaken some communities had less than a 15% turnout rate and the lowest turnout rate in an entire municipality was Dorotea with 22,4%. Actually, if you look at the highest and lowest turnout in municipalities throughout the country the story becomes quite different. This is seemingly more an issue of rural vs urban than Left vs Right.
@seb7271
@seb7271 10 күн бұрын
@@hyhhy I believe that’s because the vast majority of the Swedish population is pro EU. In October 2023 Sweden had the second most favourable opinion of the EU after Poland.
@samuel_saysske1355
@samuel_saysske1355 10 күн бұрын
@@tveir7678Their voters didn’t vote lol
@andreasg.9997
@andreasg.9997 10 күн бұрын
DF is in ID and is far right in Denmark, not unafiliated
@runeodin7237
@runeodin7237 10 күн бұрын
Yes, what makes TLDR's chart even weirder is that their elected candidate, Anders Vistisen, is likely to become the spokesman of the ID group.
@andreasg.9997
@andreasg.9997 10 күн бұрын
@@runeodin7237 Exactly!
@dragonfire3727
@dragonfire3727 8 күн бұрын
​@@runeodin7237tldr sometimes let a little bit of their left bias to show, which is not something bad, it's impossible to be completely neutral.
@feravila1949
@feravila1949 10 күн бұрын
I love and you really got me and kill me with a lot of laughs when you show the exact extract clip from SVT announcing the results. And you put “Very dramatic” “very EUROVISION” 😂😂 and I can’t agree more with you guys it is SO SIMILAR TO EUROVISION FINAL TELE-VOTING VIBES! 😂😅😂😅😂 AND JUST A MOTH BEFORE SWEDEN HOST EUROVISION 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks for the video guys! Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽!
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 10 күн бұрын
Haha it’s even more dramatic and Eurovision when the Swedish exit poll results is announced earlier in the night (which they didn’t show here) then they go party by party slowly and present the result separately. Especially for the smaller parties near the 4% threshold with a Eurovision split-screen for the 2 smallest parties 😅😅
@Tola5657
@Tola5657 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark the green left git a good election for lot off old social democrats voters have move that there angry over there have form a center government and cancel a holiday
@Sco10
@Sco10 10 күн бұрын
Hvis man rigtigt er grøn er der bare heller ikke rigtigt nogen andre at stemme på hvis man ved lidt om EU-politik. Ø er bare traditionelt set anti-EU og deres gruppe i EU er også lidt mere til den anti-EU kommunistiske side. B er med i samme gruppe som V og M så selvom de siger de er mega grønne, så har de nok ikke meget at skulle have sagt i Renew. Så er der SF og Å tilbage. Å kom ikke ind sidst, og tror ikke Jannabis til Cannabis er det der får dem over grænsen. Så SF er det eneste grønne valg der også bliver oversat til en grøn stemme i EU.
@TommiJKeranen
@TommiJKeranen 10 күн бұрын
6:18 The NCP candidate who received 88700 votes is called Pekka Toveri, not ”Pekka Ioveri”.
@MegaMegatron15
@MegaMegatron15 6 күн бұрын
Meanwhile in Sweden, we have Jonas Sjöstedt, a former party-leader for the Left Party, who is extremely popular, experienced and well-respected. He was a magnet on the left.
@SincerelyFromStephen
@SincerelyFromStephen 5 күн бұрын
“Very Eurovision” best way to describe the elections, I’d wager
@schlaumayer3754
@schlaumayer3754 10 күн бұрын
4:50 "Something true is similar"😂 I think he mixed up his words
@karisalonen12
@karisalonen12 10 күн бұрын
Good analysis. I kinda feared how in depth this would be but Finland was well covered. The policies the parties in the government have pushed forwards have proven to be bad to many of their voters so those voters were likely to stay out of ballot boxes. In addition about Li Andersson, she is known to have her arguments filled with facts and for that she is rather respected by anyone in politics even if the politician in question would have differing and opposing views to her on the matter at hand. She is a rare breed and will serve the EU well. Basically her first comment after the results were out was that we must secure aid to Ukraine so there's that also.
@jegerikkeenfanafidverifika2304
@jegerikkeenfanafidverifika2304 10 күн бұрын
Classifying venstre as centre is amusing
@TheVantie
@TheVantie 4 күн бұрын
But very true nowadays ;)
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
What is Venstre these days?
@marcamorello2803
@marcamorello2803 10 күн бұрын
God I wish we had coalition governments in the us😭
@mackmaster100
@mackmaster100 10 күн бұрын
One thing that I think this analysis misses is regarding Swedens stance on climate change as a political issue for the EU. Here in Sweden combating climate change has become one of the most prominent questions associated with EU elections, and less so with national politics. This is due to the rationale that climate change is global challenge which sees no borders. Parties with strong/trustworthy platforms on combating climate change have therefore done well.
@Teutathis
@Teutathis 10 күн бұрын
The danish left is more right wing than the swedish right wing just so you know.
@Bellatrux13
@Bellatrux13 10 күн бұрын
Facts
@nielsjensen4185
@nielsjensen4185 10 күн бұрын
Yes, Enhedlisten is indeed more right than Liberal Alliance and Dansk Folkeparti /s I think you mean that the Social-Demokraterne is the entire left and they still have a less Conservative ideology than Venstre does. You sound like an incredibly low-information voter who's all in on Conservative ideology and is incredibly salty that it has lost influence. ¨ As bas a, for example, Social Demokaterne is, it's still a valid alternative to Venstre and far less destructive to Denmark as a whole.
@niclas3672
@niclas3672 10 күн бұрын
That is just outright not true. That only applies to the social democrats. Which may not even be the biggest left wing party anymore, they weren't in this election, it was SF (The Democratic Socialist party)
@marvin2678
@marvin2678 10 күн бұрын
only on i9mmigration tho right?
@eruno_
@eruno_ 10 күн бұрын
that's not true
@haukenot3345
@haukenot3345 10 күн бұрын
It's kinda fun to try to predict the sponsor by the closing remarks. At first, I was convinced it would be Ground News because of the remarks about different perspectives, but when they showed the stock footage symbolizing complexity, it became obvious to me that it had to be Brilliant.
@Uebeltank
@Uebeltank 10 күн бұрын
The description for Denmark is slightly wrong. Of the 4 seats won by parties to the right of the Renew Europe group, 2 were won by parties intending to affiliate with EPP, 1 was won by the Danish People's Party, which sits in the ID group, and 1 was won by the Denmark Democrats, which prior to the election said it would join ECR, but has not formally committed to it yet. To the extent that there is an "unaffiliated MEP", that would be the one from the Denmark Democrats, who is still on the right. The graphic incorrectly seems to imply it's the MEP from the Danish People's Party.
@carlosroura7581
@carlosroura7581 10 күн бұрын
OMG! Please, pleeeease tell me the source, where that video of the Swedish results announcement came from. I need to see the whole video 😂
@AndreasHolmgren
@AndreasHolmgren 10 күн бұрын
svt1 eu valvaka
@NICHTVONBEDEUTUNG1
@NICHTVONBEDEUTUNG1 10 күн бұрын
If more left-leaning parties elsewhere in Europe were stricter on migration then right wing parties would lose there more too
@Olipakerranoiva
@Olipakerranoiva 9 күн бұрын
Li Anderson broke the record for most votes on the EU elections in Finland by almost 100 000 votes. The previous record was held by the Paavo Väyrynen of the Center Party. It was set in 1996 and it was 157 000 votes.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 6 күн бұрын
One wonders if people would have known, that she is openly a Marxist... would people still vote for her.
@juliansebastian
@juliansebastian 10 күн бұрын
Excellent video adding some nuance to the EU election coverage!
@Argacyan
@Argacyan 5 күн бұрын
2:35 "often described in media as far-right" made me skeptical, so I looked it up on my own. Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 5 күн бұрын
_"Going by what I can find the Finns Party is fascist with important figures having publicly known ties to nazi-movements across Scandinavia."_ That would make the Finns, a Far-Left party then, since both Fascism and National Socialism were 3rd position, socialist movements. Are you sure, that you are using those words correctly?
@Argacyan
@Argacyan 5 күн бұрын
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I am using those words correctly & the only guys calling that far-left are the fucking nazis
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 5 күн бұрын
@@Argacyan _"I am using those words correctly"_ The Finns most certainly aren't Fascists by any means however. They are nationalists if anything.
@nicklaskristoferhansen382
@nicklaskristoferhansen382 3 күн бұрын
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. I'd like to hear your take on how the politicians in The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea campaigned and earned a majority of the people's votes in their democratic elections....
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 Күн бұрын
so far right
@UHS840
@UHS840 10 күн бұрын
I've said it since the beginning and I'll continue to say it. Europeans aren't turning more to the right they're turning against mass immigration and for most nations its only the right that recognise it as a problem. The second left and centre parties start taking peoples concerns about mass immigration seriously support for right wing parties essentially elaborates over night, like we're seeing in the Nordics. Hopefully other left and centre European parties wake up to this and save Europe from mass immigration aswell as from a decade under the far right.
@karimabidi8312
@karimabidi8312 10 күн бұрын
It's not just that, I know people who don't care for that but they care for peace and many left parties are for more weapons, so they voted far right even though they are against everything of them. Also right politicians know how to use social media
@goose9515
@goose9515 10 күн бұрын
Such a European statement, Americans accept their country as a melting pot and accept millions of immigrants and their country is the worlds strongest. Meanwhile Europeans are so racist they don't want Muslims in their country and their populations decline and economies stagnate Before I get a reply, I am a European btw
@nerenahd
@nerenahd 10 күн бұрын
I´m very much left leaning and I´m against contemporary European immigrant policies. It´s not correct to let people enter a country illegally and make it very easy for them to stay. I´ll never vote for a far right party, but I might vote for a center party that is tougher on iligal immigration.
@spacemanke3814
@spacemanke3814 10 күн бұрын
I have to say that here in Finland, left wing parties are still very open to immigration so your theory doesn't work here.
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory 10 күн бұрын
​@@karimabidi8312 it's weird because 10 years ago it was conservatives and right wing people that felt our armies were getting cut way too short in Europe and that we shouldn't trust Russia. These days that flipped out of nowhere and many left wing people suddenly want to fight for their freedom and the conservatives want to roll over and submit.
@Alex-von-Tiesenhausen
@Alex-von-Tiesenhausen 9 күн бұрын
The message I get out of this is that Nordic left leaning parties have listened to their voters, unlike many in other countries that are continuing to double-down on failed or unpopular policies.
@mab9614
@mab9614 10 күн бұрын
Honestly, with the single exception of German SPD, that night was not neither a bad night nor a good night for the S&Ds. The French Socialists SOMEWHAT revived. Edit: the same cannot be said about the Greens, which they had it coming.
@darth856
@darth856 10 күн бұрын
It was interesting to see the french Socialist Party almost "coming back from the dead", gaining the same amount of seats as Macron's alliance.
@karimabidi8312
@karimabidi8312 10 күн бұрын
For real. German socialdemocrats and greens suffered clearly because of the ampel government
@chezkelhui1010
@chezkelhui1010 10 күн бұрын
This was actually a bad night for the S&Ds in Austria, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria and Slovenia.
@bolle9810
@bolle9810 10 күн бұрын
I can tell what my dad did, when he got his voting papers he threw them in the trash and said "I did not vote No in the EU referendum(1994) to give a shit what Bryssel say or does".
@Magyarpatriot-dk4mi
@Magyarpatriot-dk4mi 10 күн бұрын
Based
@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh
@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh 10 күн бұрын
So he refuses to vote for Swedish EU representation and they cries that he has no representation 😂
@gakeon963
@gakeon963 10 күн бұрын
@@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh Pretty much like everyone that complains but then doesn't vote.
@bolle9810
@bolle9810 10 күн бұрын
@@JoaoOliveira-zk6yh Where did I write that he cries about not being represented? If he cared even a smidge about the EU he would have voted for the one tiny party that wants to leave the EU, but since he can't even be arsed to do that I doubt he cares about representation
@whatwhat3432523
@whatwhat3432523 10 күн бұрын
If he cares about the economic wellbeing of his country, and exports he should care about what Brussels say. But if course, he can be a dumbass.
@WanderlustWalkabout
@WanderlustWalkabout 10 күн бұрын
I really with you guys would use a different map projection. Mercator is just terrible for anyone not actively navigating the seas, but it feels even worse, dare I say Lazy, in this context, comparing northern and southern European countries. There are so many better maps out there, why use the worst one?
@steph_man372
@steph_man372 9 күн бұрын
Turnout for the EU elections are always low in DK. This one is the second highest turnout we've ever had, only falling behind the election before that, which saw a spike due to our national elections being a week later.
@leewakefield5036
@leewakefield5036 10 күн бұрын
Did anyone else's UK brain melt for a moment when "Li Andersson" was mentioned as being a good politician 😂
@jaskapenttila7644
@jaskapenttila7644 10 күн бұрын
Yeah a literal communist which she herself had stated.
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 8 күн бұрын
As a Finn I've followed British politics and wondered what on earth is "our" andersson doing there 😂 guess it works both ways
@leewakefield5036
@leewakefield5036 8 күн бұрын
@@gyderian9435 our Anderson is an awful guy, very dangerous guy. I'm pleased for you that he's not a Finn.
@wertywerrtyson5529
@wertywerrtyson5529 10 күн бұрын
I think it’s a combination of low voter turnout and that the right is currently in power since 2022 at least here in Sweden. People are always more critical of the ones in power. However in terms of seats it didn’t actually change much. Only one seat went from the right to the left.
@jackali5014
@jackali5014 10 күн бұрын
Almost 2 seats but yeah
@hannesrame8413
@hannesrame8413 10 күн бұрын
In Finland biggest surprice was that the left party improved result from 5-7% up to 17% and was more popular than sosial democratic party. This was due to the left being the only party opposing Gaza war from the begining. Additionally, Li Andersson was the only party leader with "young female leader" after Sanna Marin.
@NightBlado
@NightBlado 9 күн бұрын
Still it is going to be a long road before we finally will have a left-wing Prime Minister, instead of the watered-down social democrat one. I will remain hopeful for that.
@drkrbrown
@drkrbrown 10 күн бұрын
What would be the election results if voters in every country believed their elected officials weren't listening .....
@thevector
@thevector 10 күн бұрын
Wandered over here from Nebula to say I thought this is one of your better scripts. I may be wrong as I don't know about the subject matter, but I felt like you were able to have meaningful analysis without resorting picking facts to support a narrative (essentially the norm in today's "journalism"). More insightful and less calculated, IMHO. Thank you.
@wolfhowl983
@wolfhowl983 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark, it is more correct to say 7 went to the center. The Socialdemocrats haven't had social democratic policies in years... recently they've removed a national holiday and targeted the unemployed... and when it comes to immigration they are definitely far right, recently said having a well paid job, education and being raised in the country is no sure sign of being integrated
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
I think that the closer social democrats and the center-right become, the more appealing parties next to them get. A center-alliance would be more functional than either the social democrats or the opposition wants to admit.
@wolfhowl983
@wolfhowl983 3 күн бұрын
@@SusCalvin Currently they are a "center alliance". An unpopular one, that gave the social democrats the worst election they ever had in the EU election. Though basically all their policies are stuff one would expect from a center right government. The reason they chose to go into government with the right-wing parties instead of forming an all left alliance, like what was the norm, wasn't because they didn't want to work with the party that was the furthest to the left on economic and climate issues though... it was because they wouldn't work with a party, that historically is slightly to the right from them BUT is firm on treating immigrants with compassion.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 2 күн бұрын
@@wolfhowl983 I think C was given such a bad offer by M that it left. Then SAP was much more ideologically negotiable and flexible than critics in V and M wanted and it turned out that C and L could negotiate for stuff. L left the arrangement and are now in a less powerful position than C. Long-term, I think C and L were pushing the country more right.
@Yoopsen213
@Yoopsen213 10 күн бұрын
Scandinavia is the only area on planet earth that had it’s head screwed on right
@100yan0v
@100yan0v 10 күн бұрын
We want a video about Bulgaria 🇧🇬 It is a big political chaos here. The far-right Bulgarian political party 'Revival' (Vazrazhdane / Възраждане) will send 3 MPs in the EU parliament. They have good relationship with AfD in Germany.
@elinys2843
@elinys2843 8 күн бұрын
They went left because it’s the only sensible decision.
@williamstorhaug7469
@williamstorhaug7469 10 күн бұрын
Why did you use the Moderate party logo when saying the right lost percentages in Sweden? That is the only major party on the right that increased its share of the votes.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
M and two supporting parties, the liberals and christian democrats, compose the right at the moment. The latter two are the ones teetering.
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 10 күн бұрын
6:02 I'm sorry but it cracks me up that Finland has a politician called Li Andersson who is on the left 🤣 Could we do a swap please? :-)
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
No swap 😁
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 6 күн бұрын
@@henriikkak2091 Oh well, it was worth a try :-) Hopefully 30p Lee will be out of a job in 3 weeks 🤞
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 6 күн бұрын
If you are from the UK, you have plenty of Andersson's in the Labor party.
@vonnikon
@vonnikon 10 күн бұрын
1:36 error here. This is where they announced the election result, not the exit poll. Altough the exit poll result was announced in a similar fashion. Of course.
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy 23 сағат бұрын
You missed the mark. It is almost universally agreed upon in Sweden that 'climate and environment' are the most important questions for EU - that's why we vote more left in EU elections. The right simply has less ambitious environmental goals.
@fernbedek6302
@fernbedek6302 10 күн бұрын
I'll always be confused about people who vote far right to be anti-establishment. They're conservatives. The core of all conservatism is maintaining the establishment. That's, like, the definition of conserving.
@drewkaton6785
@drewkaton6785 10 күн бұрын
Far right and conservative are not the same thing
@Mark-gd2ti
@Mark-gd2ti 10 күн бұрын
Not if your establishment want the opposite that conserve.... Conservatives don't want the politicians to be conserved that's ridiculous 🤦‍♂️ they want the societal structure, culture and norms ecc.... Also fasc*** are not conservative at all, only people who have no idea what they stand for can think that 🤦‍♂️ their entire art was based around progress....
@user-df1ns1ob8y
@user-df1ns1ob8y 10 күн бұрын
And like, anti-establishment parties inherently can’t win. Because then, they are the establishment. Look at M5S in Italy. Hard anti-establishmentarianism in the 2018 campaign, after which they won 32% of the vote and got into the government (somewhat, it’s complicated). Turns out, they’re actually really bad at doing anything except yelling at the establishment, so in 2022, they lost 80% of their seats.
@fernbedek6302
@fernbedek6302 10 күн бұрын
@@drewkaton6785 The far right is still conservative. They believe in either maintaining or returning to traditions. That's conservative.
@znyooom
@znyooom 10 күн бұрын
​@@fernbedek6302I think a better word for the far right might be 'reactionary'.
@karlwikman3874
@karlwikman3874 4 күн бұрын
As a Swede im very proud of my fellow countrymen and nordic brothers for choosing to maintain their humanity rather than surrendering it to right wing fearmongering
@bouchacourtthierry8506
@bouchacourtthierry8506 2 күн бұрын
😂 no bollocks are the nordic !
@ThePapaja1996
@ThePapaja1996 Күн бұрын
Saddly no
@karlwikman3874
@karlwikman3874 Күн бұрын
@@bouchacourtthierry8506 whats that even supposed to mean?
@TatsumiyaLightning
@TatsumiyaLightning 10 күн бұрын
I think people are somewhat ignoring the effects of the presidential elections that were held in Finland only some months ago. The EU elections are very much focused on personal popularity, and the leader of the Left Alliance Li Andersson was one of the candidates. The only presidential candidate to run in the EU elections. And she pretty much single-handedly dragged the two other member of Left Alliance with her. Those two didn't get in on their own votes. Li Andersson has basically been running a personal campaign for a year now, and was by far the most recognizable candidate on offer.
@Kris217imsc
@Kris217imsc 10 күн бұрын
According to SVT studies, a bigger turnout in Sweden would have benefited mostly the left parties and slightly the far right SD
@nissedhulla
@nissedhulla 10 күн бұрын
Many people around me voted for a different party in the EU election than in the Swedish general election, mainly because they wanted different questions to be pushed at an EU level
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 10 күн бұрын
ah yeah good old people who dont know shit about politics
@SimonTmte
@SimonTmte 10 күн бұрын
If those towards the "far" right are anti-EU it'd sort of make logical sense for that grouping to have a lower turnout on EU elections
@Ossian-dr1vr
@Ossian-dr1vr 10 күн бұрын
The far left in sweden is also anti-EU
@karimabidi8312
@karimabidi8312 10 күн бұрын
Well, french and german anti EU parties did well
@kristianjohansen5561
@kristianjohansen5561 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark we only have one anti-EU party, the rest is more or less for the EU, some just want less of it. And the anti-EU parti doesn't even want to leave the EU as of right now.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. Some people think it's a good idea to send a MEP that a) will rot the EU institutions from the inside b) will do nothing at all for five years on taxpayers' money
@suneenough
@suneenough 10 күн бұрын
Several corrections with regard to Denmark. At 0:26, you mention center and far-right parties losing vote share, but display the logo of the Conservatives, which gained vote share. At 2:20, you show 3 MEPs for the right and mention one unaffiliated MEP. However, you misidentified the unaffiliated MEP in your graphics, showing the Danish Democrats as being with the right when they are the unaffiliated group. The remaining seat, the Danish People's Party, is affiliated with the ID group.
@christoffersj7242
@christoffersj7242 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark, nation-specific trend would also be the center coalition government unilaterally deleting a bank holiday just AFTER the 2022 election (nothing mentioned preelection) completely ignoring the usual union/employer organisation-deals. The EU-election has been the first chance to express disapproval with those parties (Soc.dem, Venstre, Moderates)
@michielp1922
@michielp1922 10 күн бұрын
Will you make a video's about Belgium's (national and regional) election results?
@marcused8317
@marcused8317 10 күн бұрын
peenit
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 10 күн бұрын
no.
@tjrgwnfktwbag
@tjrgwnfktwbag 10 күн бұрын
Will non beglians even be sble to grasp Belgium's political system?
@michielp1922
@michielp1922 10 күн бұрын
@@tjrgwnfktwbag good point
@Capeau
@Capeau 10 күн бұрын
​@tjrgwnfktwbag nope.. noone does. Not even the Belgian prime minister
@Ossian-dr1vr
@Ossian-dr1vr 10 күн бұрын
The "Centre" party in sweden is just right wing btw
@asuka_the_void_witch
@asuka_the_void_witch 10 күн бұрын
yeah and S are basically center right now. "swedish at heart" holy shit
@asukawakanne
@asukawakanne 10 күн бұрын
@@asuka_the_void_witch they're unfathomably based, we need this mentality in the rest of europe
@Stormcloakvictory
@Stormcloakvictory 10 күн бұрын
Possible yeah, see similar things happen in other countries in Europe. None of the center parties are really center, theyre right or left wing. In Netherlands the VVD has always been labeled as right wing/center right but their policies were quite left wing, even far left in some cases. CDA (supposed center) has been a green party too.
@tveir7678
@tveir7678 10 күн бұрын
They're liberal. Pro-immigration, green and socially progressive, but yes, economically right wing.
@Ossian-dr1vr
@Ossian-dr1vr 10 күн бұрын
@@tveir7678 Yes they are liberals, liberalism is right wing
@TheSerpentDK
@TheSerpentDK 10 күн бұрын
In Denmark, the Left won because the government is extremely unpopular, not a little, but extremely. The Liberal Alliance had a horrible campaign, which was slightly misogynistic. The Danish Peoples Party was shown to not even come to EU meetings.
@trist6073
@trist6073 10 күн бұрын
you mention that there was an unaffiliated MP in Denmark which won, which is not true, that went to the danish peoples party, who sits in ID
@liquidsnake6879
@liquidsnake6879 10 күн бұрын
They're not that similar at all, in Denmark even the left-wing parties oppose mass immigration, in Sweden it's a far more open topic and the recent talk of restrictions is really only due to the consequences that were being evidenced and making the left vastly unpopular, if the left did not reverse track on immigration in Sweden then their defeat would be a foregone conclusion because the problem just kept getting worse and worse and the government refused to answer the public's appeals. Whenever your government acts in such a manner arrogantly ignoring the wishes of the electorate, then they will get punished in the election for it, so the best thing the Swedish left is doing is precisely, push the right into awkward coalitions where it can't actually get any of it's more extreme proposals passed but can still be part of the "system" to undermine it's anti-system allure and additionally at least talk of restricting mass immigration even if you don't ultimately do it to placate the right's biggest selling point. You cannot counter the general public wishes and expect to win elections, if you notice that a lot of people are talking about a particular issue, that's a sign you cannot ignore it or you will lose seats, no matter how you feel about it, politics is about doing what the public wants not just what you want, you cannot afford such a disconnection between your party and the general public. Note that you need to follow through somewhat, if you start talking about opposing mass migration you can't do what the tories in the UK did and let in record numbers, that makes you look like a liar and your own electorate will bitterly despise you for it and revel in punishing you, look how many conservatives in the UK are openly cheering "zero seats" for the tories. That's punishment from your own electorate for lying and absolutely what you don't want in any circumstance cause that endangers your entire party.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
I think there is an exhaustion about constant migration debate forcing everything else on hold. When people list their priorities, migration has been shrinking steadily. Like how much are you willing to trade and sacrifice for migration.
@liquidsnake6879
@liquidsnake6879 2 күн бұрын
@@SusCalvin I think it reduces naturally as larger percentages of the population over time are of migrant background, as you naturalize more and more, that issue will get diluted, and other issues will arise. In Portugal for instance, at this point 1/10th of the population is made up of first generation migrants, if you expand that to the second generations then it's 1/3rd of the entire population. It's not surprising at all that this is not as big of an issue there as it might be in other European countries, and other countries will also experience that phenomenon over time and it's natural that it becomes less and less important as the demographics shift. I think it is shrinking yes, but not because of exhaustion, more so because of the demographics involved
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin Күн бұрын
@@liquidsnake6879 There is always a priority question in our coalition governments. I have to consider what I can give up to another party in order to get what I want. And I don't think people are willing to trade away other priorities they have, decade after decade, for migration.
@ConstantChaos1
@ConstantChaos1 10 күн бұрын
As an american i feel i can usually look to the scandi/nordic countries as a steady hand on the world stage. More than even my own gov at this point lol
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 10 күн бұрын
And Norway's up there, chilling.
@ugo7395
@ugo7395 10 күн бұрын
Grønland oslo
@acid0p
@acid0p 8 күн бұрын
In Denmark some of the result going to SF, could also be credited to the thursday before the election, when there was a debate among all parties participating (which was broadcasted on live television), where a lot of people felt that the other candidates were just talking bad about all other parties, while the leading candidate from SF mostly focused on what they actually wanted to do, instead of focusing on the other parties and why they shouldn't be voted in. (this is what i have heard from a lot of people who normally don't vote for SF, but did this time)
@asukawakanne
@asukawakanne 10 күн бұрын
its basically cause the reason for the rightwing shift is basically just anti immigration, whereas in nordics most centre left parties even are anti immigration
@crazydinosaur8945
@crazydinosaur8945 10 күн бұрын
the far right highest vote winner anti immigration, has been copied by the center left theyby leaving them with only people that falls in the group "far right and willing to vote in EU elections on other things than immigration" which isn't that big of a group
@tomatoheadfd
@tomatoheadfd 10 күн бұрын
This is great news
@michaeleddy2415
@michaeleddy2415 10 күн бұрын
1:45 Imagine if that happened for the UK Election
@leonardobertuzzi3042
@leonardobertuzzi3042 10 күн бұрын
can I just ask, why is nody talking about belgium? I always hear about france but belgium barely mentioned if anything, what actually happened there?
@alirazi9198
@alirazi9198 9 күн бұрын
So basically, the only reason we dont see a gain for far right in Nordic countries is that no matter who has the power, they aren't going to pursue a different policy
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
No, that's not what was said on the video. Listen again until you understand.
@GreenGocco
@GreenGocco 10 күн бұрын
Lee Anderson????
@Trolligi
@Trolligi 10 күн бұрын
Exactly lmfao
@Purjo92
@Purjo92 10 күн бұрын
Li Andersson*
@Joltsu
@Joltsu 10 күн бұрын
Li*
@Mickelraven
@Mickelraven 10 күн бұрын
*Li Andersson
@GreenGocco
@GreenGocco 10 күн бұрын
@@Purjo92 I know ;)
@michaelchu6516
@michaelchu6516 10 күн бұрын
Honestly for Europes sake, it should be a continent wide thing... So blind that they can't even see they are being taken over.
@zwelfbungt
@zwelfbungt 10 күн бұрын
I see a Eurovision-reference, I press like!
@LOLE_Editz
@LOLE_Editz 10 күн бұрын
Scandinavia has historically been a left leaning region due to its roots of communalism and social trust.
@kataroquasinzki7383
@kataroquasinzki7383 10 күн бұрын
All Western European countries are capitalist (and they became more so after the dissolution of the USSR) and they're all under the American ultracapitalist boot now. And inequality is increasing steadily in Nordic Europe as Sweden now for instance resembles Canada more than its Nordic neighbors in terms of inequality-adjusted human development
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Modern history is one thing. Pre-industrial era is another
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. 6 күн бұрын
@@kataroquasinzki7383 : There is no Capitalism here, only left leaning Mixed economies. America doesn't have Capitalism either, just same mixed economies like 99% of the modern day countries. Regarding "inequality", the life and reality is unequal by default.
@bababababababa6124
@bababababababa6124 10 күн бұрын
Because they saw how the right is doing in other countries 😂
@anusko
@anusko 10 күн бұрын
More "what" they are doing in other countries
@TSGC16
@TSGC16 10 күн бұрын
No its because the right didnt vote in the EU elections cause they dont believe in the EU
@wile123456
@wile123456 10 күн бұрын
The right has been in power before in the nordics, and they've only made everything worse. Plus our "social Democrat" parties are not social anymore, being incompetent, cutting welfare, giving tax cuts to the rich and running on the same racist policies as the far right. It's why in Denmark they werent the biggest party anymore, after the spokesperson for integration in the social Democrats said some vile racist stuff straight out of the 1930's.
@armingleiner5292
@armingleiner5292 10 күн бұрын
The right is doing just fine.
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 10 күн бұрын
We (swe and fin) have right wing govs at the moment as well
@royalmaniac5774
@royalmaniac5774 10 күн бұрын
I might be wrong, but a pattern I’ve noticed is that the EU elections have been generally going against whichever party is currently in power in their respective countries. Right wing parties did well in France and Germany, for example, where moderates/centrists are in power, while doing poorly in Hungary and Slovakia, which are being run by far right leaders. It might be that the general population of each country is blaming their respective leadership for the current economic slump Europe is facing, and is voting against them in response.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Seems logical
@slashtiger1
@slashtiger1 10 күн бұрын
@04:50 "Something true is similar (...)" Wait... What? Did you really just say that?? 😆
@mrbad3036
@mrbad3036 10 күн бұрын
Perhaps because people are more logical and don't fall for the right's fear mongering and false promises.
@98TrueRocker98
@98TrueRocker98 10 күн бұрын
Or maybe because the nordic countries are full of foreigners who vote left because they owe no allegiance to a country, culture and people that arent their own
@MtiuliBichi
@MtiuliBichi 10 күн бұрын
Perhaps when the Left tackles the right wing’s principal subjects, then those right wing parties lose :)
@rappakalja5295
@rappakalja5295 10 күн бұрын
​@@98TrueRocker98 Yeah, I'm sure 10%-20% of the population makes up 40-60% of the voters 👍 racism has rotted your brain.
@Theorimlig
@Theorimlig 10 күн бұрын
I wish. The discourse is bad here too.
@henriikkak2091
@henriikkak2091 6 күн бұрын
Or we did that years ago already
@marcusjohansson5686
@marcusjohansson5686 10 күн бұрын
Quite evident this is made by people not living in a nordic country.
@cazman182
@cazman182 10 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate as someone living in DK and wanting to learn more? Is it the left/right distinction that doesn't quite work in the Nordics?
@GerardVanPatten
@GerardVanPatten 10 күн бұрын
Obviously your channel explains it all better for the rest of us 👏
@wile123456
@wile123456 10 күн бұрын
Quite evidently your comment provides nothing of value nor anything specific. Just snark.
@unoki99
@unoki99 10 күн бұрын
@@cazman182 The reason left ir surging again here in the Nordics is because our parties already share similar views on key questions, like migration and crime punishment. a few years back when the right was the main speakers for stricter migration laws and stronger punishment for crimes, people voted more right since that was a needed change. Now even the left are on the boat with migration questions and crime laws. That's why people feel more comfortable voting left again. It's not so much "what left and right means in different regions", but rather what the questions of interest are in each region. Scandinavia has gone through a very local problem of gang violence, which is not so much applicable to the rest of the EU.
@marcusjohansson5686
@marcusjohansson5686 10 күн бұрын
@wile123456 I think some people will find it useful, as it encourages critical thinking.
@katerina13aar
@katerina13aar 10 күн бұрын
Now, I can't speak for Finland or Sweden, but in Denmark, another reason for the left-ward shift is due to dissatisfaction with the incumbent coalition government between the Social Democrats (A), the Moderates (M) and the Liberals (V). Meaning these parties gained fewer votes than normal and many of the vote share moved further left than the Social Democrats, these being the Socialistic People's Party (SF, or the Green-Lefts) and the Red-Green Alliance. More conservative voters tend to stick with the Conservatives (C) rather than the Liberal Alliance (LA) who are considered more extreme and radical in their views, and even then, you'll find that most conservatives will vote for the more moderate centre-right Liberal Party (V). There are also many candidate tests provided by news outlets, helping voters figure out which specific candidates, rather than party, they align most with. These tests have been become increasingly popular in the last three elections, making it easier to figure out where a person lies specifically on the political spectrum, and thus help them decide which party or person they should vote for.
@CarlAlex2
@CarlAlex2 10 күн бұрын
As a Dane I cannot recognize the situation you describe, There has been no significant move to the left in our distribution of representatives. 1. The Radical Left party B (Centrist usually supporting Social Democrats) lost one seat. 2. The Socialist Peoples party SF (Why you name them Green Left eludes me - almost all Danish parties claim to be green)) won one seat. 3. Venstre (Left) (the old Liberal party) recently disintegrated splitting off the new parties Moderaterne M (I'd call them populists - founded by the former prime minister and chairman of Venstre, who I think just couldn't let go of power) and Danmarksdemokraterne (National Liberals). We consider Venstre a right wing party, and I am not sure wgere to put Moderaterne, but in any case Venstre lost 2 seats and the two splitoffs won one seat each. So together the group got the same number of seats as before. So where is this big shift left?
@pjhgerlach
@pjhgerlach 10 күн бұрын
Short answer: Because they use their brain.
@kallebirgersson710
@kallebirgersson710 10 күн бұрын
Two things for the swedish results: The far right is anti-EU and because of that less interested to vote in this election. And the far left party has been the only one on the palestinian side in the on-going war in Israel. That probably gave them some sympathi among certain groups of voters.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 10 күн бұрын
According to the exit poll numbers, the left would actually perform better and SD perform worse if only native Swedes voted in the election. Mostly due to the lowest turnout by far being in immigrant suburbs. So the biggest factor in the left wing surge is most likely that middle class and highly educated native Swedish urbanites voted in high numbers and prioritized Climate policy, Pro-Ukraine policies and EU cooperation. So I don’t think Palestine was that big of a factor.
@Minimmalmythicist
@Minimmalmythicist 10 күн бұрын
@@Fluxwux Far right voters tend to be "low-information" voters, i.e they don´t actually know that much about what institutions do etc.
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 10 күн бұрын
@@Minimmalmythicist Yes, and due to SD working with the government (achieving very low migration right now - but also some unpopular policies for far right voters such as the new gender law and many continued climate policies) and dropping all their EU criticism many dissident right voters probably see SD as less radical and interesting for a protest vote because they are de facto part of the “establishment” now. And being less rebellious means less drive to actually go vote.
@nicke0b
@nicke0b 10 күн бұрын
@@Minimmalmythicist Disagree completely, actually having very detailed information of what is going on in different institutions and seeing the increasing corruption or apathy to fight corruption makes people vote far right.
@Mark-gd2ti
@Mark-gd2ti 10 күн бұрын
Muslims who are FAR right voting the far left is the most iconic thing possible 😂😂😂 well they are playing the long game so it make sense, what it doesn't is the far left supporting people who believe in theocracy 😂😂
@DenDave_
@DenDave_ 10 күн бұрын
The trends arent really so much going to the left or right, its more about going against the established governments that have caused so many issues and insecurities. For most of Europe that means shifting right, for the Nordic nations its going left.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 күн бұрын
I think the current generation has no memory of the dominance the social democrats used to have. M tries to pull SAP from 1970 out of the grave and shadow-debate them sometimes.
@susannebielefeldt759
@susannebielefeldt759 10 күн бұрын
You forget to include the Danish People's Party which got one seat and is a member of the ID group. The unafiliated seats went to the right-wing Denmark Democrats who have announced that they will likely join the ERC. You also used the logo of the Swedih Social Democrats instead of the Danish ones.
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