Euclid Probe - Auto Bed Leveling - Chris's Basement - 2023
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Күн бұрынWe got a hold of a Euclid Probe so we're going to put it together and set it up on Marlin.
00:00 Introduction
01:06 A Quick Look
04:26 Assembly
14:56 Marlin Setup
22:46 Testing
25:22 Z Offset
28:51 Conclusion
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@euclidprobe Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the in depth and honest review of pros & cons of Euclid Probe! A couple of suggestions- -swipe the probe off by moving the bed in the +Y direction, its a bit easier on the overall system - a little deeper in the deploy Z coordinate reduces the amount of pullup on the dock -there is a slot for the wiring in the mount to hide them and route them better. Use a piece of filament as peg to hold in it.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@JohnDStrand Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I had one of these mounted on my Aquila and it worked great.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@woodwaker1 Жыл бұрын
Chris, Thanks for doing the video - always interesting to see different approaches to solve a problem.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@thehappyextruder7178 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting probe, thanks for posting Chris !
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Klicky only without all the glue and squeezing magnets into printed parts.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂
@SilentRush420 Жыл бұрын
Awsome work man!!
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@rfnovo Жыл бұрын
Nice, but for Enders I believe klackender still a better option for this style of probe
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂👍
@HassanAhmed-zw2lt Жыл бұрын
Great video
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBruster1 Жыл бұрын
Nice walk through. How about turning the sensor 90deg, then mounting the actual probe dock on the Z rail so its pulling the sensor from a solid bar then do the bed level. Just a suggestion. This could work well for a core XY type printer.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll look into it!
@JohnOCFII Жыл бұрын
Nice walk though of the Euclid. I’ve been using one since summer of 2021 on my CoreXY RailCore. On that machine, it has been fantastic! Really great when you use a variety of different print surfaces on a magnetic bed with REALLY strong magnets, as so many other probe types have issues in those scenarios. I’d agree it isn’t as good a fit for an i3 style moving bed printer.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@imst4722 Жыл бұрын
A klicky or quickdraw probe would probably make more sense than the euclid on an i3 printer. It's incredibly cheap compared to the bltouch or euclid, magnets don't need to be nearly as strong to work and it's 2 wires as it doesn't need 5/24v. All it needs is a mount and firmware implementation.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂👍
@Chris-bq7nr Жыл бұрын
i use a klicky since more than 6 month,.. achieve .002mm or less repeatability test each time.
@billstoner5559 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting demo/tutorial. Thanks for sharing. Question, Chris. Why not mount the probe on the printer frame? Seems like there is enough room for it. No torque on the print bed then.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
You could, but you would have to rework the mount.
@NicksStuff Жыл бұрын
Do you think the Nextruder’s load cell could be implemented in a DIY printer?
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Not really sure. At some point I'm sure this will happen, but I don't know how they are interfacing with it yet. We will see.
@MisterkeTube Жыл бұрын
If the probe would be normally-closed (and maybe it is), you could just move up a little bit, home X and Y, then move X and Y above the probe and then move down until the probe snaps on and closes the circuit (stopping the moving down), then move up again (or sideways and then up if that's needed to release the probe), then move to the center of the bed and use the probe to actually home Z. That would avoid the need to home all the way at the top and only then grab the probe.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight!
@333donutboy Жыл бұрын
The Euclid probe has a PCB, mechanical switch, magnets, and SMD's. A BLTouch is super lightweight and probably weighs the same or less. It's not like your removing the entire probe from the hotend and gaining extra build area. This is great if you like to mod your printer but not much else. IMHO.
@gerrycave Жыл бұрын
With an hot enclosure for ABS or other materials like PEEK, heat affects the reliability of the BL-Touch
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@xxorza Жыл бұрын
Looks pretty inconvenient. I would be happy to learn about this thing in 2017, but in 2023 I only accept solutions which probe directly with nozzle.
@MisterkeTube Жыл бұрын
Probing with the nozzle does require having a way to clean the nozzle before the probe (i.e. a brush or silicone wiper) and the correct logic to have the nozzle hot enough to allow cleaning, but not too hot as to damage the build surface when probing. Bambulabs has a pretty good setup, but many others are flawed and can cause major offsets if there's some oozed out filament sticking out of the nozzle. I prefer simple stuff like the Klicky probe, which is basically the open source sister of the Euclid. For the Ender 3 you have the KlackEnder derivative of the Klicky. Doesn't require the lengthy homing at the top shown in the video. I would expect that a similar approach would be possible with the Euclid to avoid that homing at the top.
@Country_Bubba Жыл бұрын
@@MisterkeTube Yes, I have mine setup to "use probe" for homing along with safe homing. For homing, it homes XY in normal manner and then picks up the probe and homes in the center of the bed and docks the probe. Then when (if) you issue a G29, it picks up the probe and does mesh leveling in the normal manner.
@euclidprobe Жыл бұрын
@@Country_Bubba as in THE country bubba, the cable driven DRO via DOS via an ISA card? We are humbled !
@euclidprobe Жыл бұрын
@@MisterkeTube You can home to the Z-min instead of Z-Max. The issue that you will encounter is the dock coordinates /Z elevation will change if you change bed surfaces using Z-min as the frame of reference.
@Country_Bubba Жыл бұрын
@@euclidprobe Yep, the one and same. Still be kicking after all those years and still hacking around:{)
@ziruszirus1654 8 ай бұрын
Better installing on the frame than on the bed…… any thoughts about that?
@ChrisRiley 8 ай бұрын
I think that is a better alternative if you have the room to mount it. I will be installing one on a trident soon and its mount is on the frame.
@yassinelessawy6101 Жыл бұрын
I have a problem with my klicky probe it deploy and stow just fine and do z offset calibration,but once I try to do Z aligning or bed leveling, it try ti dig a hole in my bed trying to deploy the probe, to goes past zero Z , while showing 1mm on the screen as I specified in the configuration file. And then you uploaded this video I followed it step by step. I took your mariln files and changed the pair minimum just to fit my printer, guess what still the same behavior, I don't understand why it goes below zero during leveling to deploy, it doesn't respect the software endstop what so ever.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Huh, that's really strange. You're using Marlin? Is your offset a negative value?
@sculptaware4548 Жыл бұрын
Instead of vertically pulling the magents apart. Change the gcode to slide them apart. Less force on the bed. As others have said find a location to mount to the frame instead.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@inducatvius3883 Жыл бұрын
it is an expensive Klicky-Probe (thingerverse) with the klicky you already have everything you need and you don't have to do the z all the way up so a lot faster but nice to see it working
@Chris-bq7nr Жыл бұрын
agree with you. but maybe Klicky is too cheap for some hobbyists?
@inducatvius3883 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-bq7nr I think you are right there, I have a bl touch on every printer, they are also $ 40 and I just ordered a beacon, again $ 104
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I will have to check out Klicky.
@jamesboyd396 Жыл бұрын
couldn't you mount the probe holder to the frame, instead of the bed?
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
You could, but you would have to rework the mount.
@TalkingGIJoe Жыл бұрын
Those magnets pull up on the bed when the probe is disconnecting from the print head. That could be problematic.
@euclidprobe Жыл бұрын
The best way to separate the probe is swiping off or on.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
I agree, it's not as easy as I would like it to be.
@ItsDaPlumber Жыл бұрын
It looked like it lifted the bed a little while trying to disconnect the probe. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of bed leveling?
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
That's why I had some opinions on if this type of probe would be useful on I3 style printers. See the pinned comment for suggestions from Euclid.
@ItsDaPlumber Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley OMG! I didn't see that and they addressed it. NIce!!!
@ZeroAnkoku Жыл бұрын
Like the idea and execution of how it mounts etc. but it feels like so much work when you can just tune a CR/BL and be done in like 5mins lol
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Yeah but what fun is that?
@bruceyoung1343 Жыл бұрын
Chris Line 1955 in your vsCODE has an error. Squiggle red line and phrase in perenties, WHY? I get that trying to compile firmware, what causes it? Will you be at ERRF this year? I hope so, I'lL buy you lunch
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce! honestly, I really don't know why it does that. It's something in VScode that doesn't like the syntax of the C code. It doesn't seem to be consistent either, it shows up in various places, not sure how to get rid of it. I will be there! :)
@bruceyoung1343 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRiley I sometimes have 60+ of those lil buggers. I have to manually edit each line that has an error
@Roberto-oi7lm Жыл бұрын
Uh.................I don't get it. Why would I do this? I'm keeping my BLTouch.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Good for you. Thanks for watching!
@awilliams1701 Жыл бұрын
that looks like vs code.....wait that looks different than my vs code........oh that's outlook not vs code. ok they look the same now. LMAO
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
🙂
@RamaOlama Жыл бұрын
Omg, that's so old. Euclid is like from 2018... Based on the euclid idea, there is the klicky by jlas1. Based on both ideas, there is the KlickyPCB by taenas (aka Whoppingpochard) Then there is a very new "Beacon Probe/Scanner", this is current century 😂 Seems like you took your time off from the 3D printing world 😂
@Country_Bubba Жыл бұрын
May be old tech, but sure works good on my ender5 with a glass bed. The probe references off the actual print surface and has proven very reliable and accurate. Just for reference, have used same type of switches for my cnc mill and have documented repeatability to .0001"s Then again, the beacon won't meet my criteria of detecting the actual print surface. Not only that, fabricated my own parts by 3d printing. Simple in design and manufacture so it perfectly meets my needs.
@ChrisRiley Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment
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