34 people watching this video have probably never made a DIY circuit board. Watching this video make the process look really easy but it takes a lot of technology to make these kind of boards. Thank you for this informative film.
@LittleRainGames5 жыл бұрын
Its not that hard, im designing very low cost tools/machines to make industry standard PCB's so anyone can make ones like this.
@Crazytesseract5 жыл бұрын
now they are 85 people.
@derekn61510 жыл бұрын
You just helped a California, Computer Engineering Freshman pass a test.... GREAT VIDEO!!!
@geraldaldana9339 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video. now I understand fully or definitely more than before broke it down to study.. Front end tool data preparation 2:34 extended gerbers Preparing the photo tool 3:51 Print inner layers 5:09 Etched inner layers 7:08 Register punch and automatic optical inspection (AOI) 8:11 Lay-up and Bond 9:02 Drilling the PCB 11:32 Drilling and profiling machine Electroless copper deposition 14:26 Image the outer layers 16:01 Plating 17:58 25 microns copper Etch outer layer 20:15 Apply solder mask 21:35 Rohs compliant surface finishes electroless gold over nickel 24:14 Plated gold edge connectors :25:50 hard electroplated gold . Repeated inserted to connector request for hard plated gold. Siik screen and cure 27:08 10 min 5 stage conveyerized oven Electrictrical test 28:08 Profiling 28:58 router - v scored v-cut scoring 30:04 Final inspection 30:58
@samuelchamberlain258410 жыл бұрын
Having etched p.c.b's for though hole components . I recognise this is an entirely different ball game . I have often wondered how multilayer boards are made . This has provided a good insight
@davidespano867410 жыл бұрын
Extremely instructive video, definitely a bonus when having to decide who is best placed to actually build your design. Thanks.
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@Pitbuller4910 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, as a trainee electronics engineer this has given me better knowledge of how the PCBs work.
@doogulass10 жыл бұрын
This was a very instructive video...thanks! Everybody who designs a circuit board should watch this.
@rmacfamily11 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been trying to make simpler PCBs at home with minimal success and, seeing how difficult it was, wondered what went into the real modern process. Great job presenting that. Well paced and very interesting.
@voiceoftreason176010 жыл бұрын
This is way better than How it's made
@Kabodanki10 жыл бұрын
no idiotics puns at least
@SpuriousEmission10 жыл бұрын
I recognised a Circuit Automation DP1500 at Soldermask. I used these, amongst other machines in Prestwick Circuits at Irvine in Scotland. However we wore surgical gloves to keep fingerprints off of the uncovered copper.
@Diegoroma708 жыл бұрын
very interesting video! A must for every pcb designer!
@davidespano867411 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, very informative and detailed. I have been looking around for reputable PCB manufacturers catering for the needs of small to medium production volumes and EURO circuits is top-of-class. Thank you.
@DoRC7 жыл бұрын
man no wonder PCBs are so expensive. i had no idea it was such a hands on process.
@brianhead19079 жыл бұрын
Great video !!! I'll try this out tomorrow...thanks for the upload.
@Psychlist197211 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thanks for putting this together and posting it.
@jbarragan10 жыл бұрын
Very good looking to the manufacture process, most engineers & designers just limit to design the PCB on the EDA tool and lave it to manufacture.
@TheThore10 жыл бұрын
Somebody who can pronounce "Aachen" correctly. Thumbs up ;)
@rubber2002111 жыл бұрын
A wonderful presentation, quite labor involved as seen!
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@unlokia10 жыл бұрын
The narrator is obviously a hired voice-over artist with no electronics knowledge, as he refers to "leaded components" as if they were made of the *metal* lead, and not "leaded" as in "with a lead", pronounced "My dog is leaded on his lead"
@DrRawley9 жыл бұрын
That irked me too. :)
@frtnahuseyingoktas29775 жыл бұрын
Instruction was perfect!
@jessstuart74952 жыл бұрын
0:37 He's living the dream.
@y2ksw110 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Could be more exhaustive upon certain procedures which are new to most people, such as how the layers stick and match together and how connections are made between layers, by providing still or animated pictures.
Also the Soldermask ink (Carapace or Taiyo) was hazardous, and best to avoid contact with skin.
@DanFrederiksen10 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly elaborate process. Maybe laser cutting and directed vapor deposition could make for a better process.
@yishujia1869 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why are multi-layer PCBs so expensive.
@HypherNet5 жыл бұрын
Oh how the times have changed. $30 for 5x 4-layer prototypes on JLCPCB. Plus shipping of course. But still, for about $50 you can have 5 4-layer boards in your hands in less than a week.
@theatreofshadows3 жыл бұрын
@@HypherNet There is more to life than monetary cost. Chinese pollution and geopolitical implications for one. Certainly I'd rather get a board from Europe and pay what I know will be a realistic cost for the workers to get decent wages and for the company to fulfil their legal and environmental obligations. There are lots of uncounted costs in artificially cheap products, which are harmful for us all.
@ShaunakDe7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Very educational. :)
@francisli54437 жыл бұрын
very nice vedio, I am a beginner of PCB, beinfit a lot from it, need to review it again and again.
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@RicardoATBarbosa8 жыл бұрын
The silent parts are a little distracting, but the video is very good!
@baroque_engineer8 жыл бұрын
+Ricardo Barbosa I've fixed this by opening a smooth jazz album in a neighboring browser tab (web player). :)
@RicardoATBarbosa8 жыл бұрын
+YS akaYSembed Very appropriate Sir!
@Pieh010 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for making this.
@user-qv1oj1jq4t10 жыл бұрын
it is amazing ,as a chinese student,i hope that day which is we can equal usa in the field.
@gargaste11 жыл бұрын
This is for people WHO Ask me why a pcb is so expensive..there it is the answer..! It is a well controled process under a great infrastructure n a good quality system and that means money..moneey..it is not just like a small home shop..! This is for the pros..!
@dorfschmidt48339 жыл бұрын
Ich ziehe meinen Hut, das ist einfach großartig.
@YoramRotbach11 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation
@Murderface6669 жыл бұрын
unbelievable process :)
@scwallac10 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video!
@Paddington200010 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks!
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@skay229311 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading the video. Nice one clear explanation
@thoinguyenvan79345 жыл бұрын
Thank You so much for your video
@haoliu535810 жыл бұрын
very good
@electronic79796 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@aaa-hh8dv10 жыл бұрын
amazing factory o.o
@magicstix0r9 жыл бұрын
"Lead is outlawed because of environmental concerns, so we use the far more toxic nickel!" Way to go Europe...
@MarianKeller9 жыл бұрын
Lead wasn't replaced by Nickel...
@magicstix0r9 жыл бұрын
Marian Keller Apparently you didn't watch the video.
@MarianKeller9 жыл бұрын
magicstix0r No, I watched the video and also have experience in pcb-design. The topic you're talking about is the surface finish of the PCBs, where there are two common types: HASL and ENIG. The first means "hot air solder leveling", where the PCB is basically just dipped in molten solder and excess is removed by hot air. To be RoHS compliant, the solder must be lead-free. There are some alloys containing nickel, but those are rather uncommon. ENIG is a nickel-plating, protected against oxidisation by a thin gold layer. Wouldn't want to use lead instead.
@Landrew09 жыл бұрын
magicstix0r When we stop using risk-assessment, and just use mindless risk-avoidance instead, nothing good results.
@oguretsagressive7 жыл бұрын
Aren't you confusing it with cadmium? Nickel is a lot less toxic than lead.
@snipersquad10011 жыл бұрын
very interesting process
@broderp10 жыл бұрын
So this is was interesting. They keep saying economical, for students, universities etc. but never give a price for a any project. Please define cost effective. Do they do simple 2 layer or one layer boards? What about for the USA, do they ship to the US? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Great work, although you need a better sound editor :(
@morganlouide69977 жыл бұрын
very interesting video, but maybee need some drawings or animations to detail some processes
@eurocircuits7 жыл бұрын
Normally you would start the series of films explaining the production process, from the website: www.eurocircuits.com/making-a-pcb-pcb-manufacture-step-by-step/ What you suggest to add is there already.
@NathanTheTall9 жыл бұрын
It looks like a painfully manual process. I wonder how much automation is in newer production lines.
@eurocircuits9 жыл бұрын
Newer implies: what you see here is old :-) You are limping on the wrong foot here Nathan. A high degree of automation is typical for volume suppliers. We are a prototype and small series supplier and cannot afford this automation since that will kill the flexibility in the production flow. A flexibility that is needed to be able to make all these quick turnaround orders and deliver them on time. 2014, almost 80,000 orders and more than 98,5% on time deliveries within average delivery terms under 5 working days. www.eurocircuits.com/blog/181-Looking-back-at-2014
@Fennecbutt9 жыл бұрын
eurocircuits Wow, you pretty much attacked him for making an extremely reasonable statement. He didn't say anything about your company or attack you in any way.
@ftbtd8 жыл бұрын
+Fennecbutt but they are right. They don't use outdated equipment, they simply can not charge 45000$ line-setup when you order 50 PCBs for prototypes, custom upgrades or repair-jobs. Who the heck cares if they use 20 years old crt-monitors or apply the solder-mask in machines that look like they bought them from the local smith. I really like their presentation and know when I see a professionally designed workflow.
@RWoody19958 жыл бұрын
+Fennecbutt Wooooah calm down their comment was nothing like an attack
@9DC-Paul8 жыл бұрын
Depends on whether the line is for prototyping or production. Based on the volume of boards, this looks like a prototyping shop. One thing we all tend to forget is that with higher volume equipment, the cost of set up is higher. Think of a printing house - the equipment they will use to print 1000 books is not the same equipment that they would use to product 10000+ books. Reason - set up costs.
@rongarza94885 жыл бұрын
Hmm, no mention of membranes, those nasty spongy switch surfaces. Maybe they don't do them because they hate them too.
@ShadoWDancerMKD7 жыл бұрын
Half-a-way old Machines Using Photo-films to exposure. Nowdays Lasers and CCDs are used to do such. Then, Gold Edge Connectors, Using Lamination process and exposure those panels with different dry film resist, where as hardening all copper spots except connectors.
@eurocircuits7 жыл бұрын
Every video has a publishing date. Here is the newest version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ip2DZ5N4vqu3ko0.html All direct imaging.
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@Duraltia7 жыл бұрын
Hmm... At the beginning I was suspecting to see two double sided boards simply being bonded together with a separation layer in between. Not the process of an entire new layer being formed on both sides of the double sided board.
@eurocircuits7 жыл бұрын
What you describe as "simply being bonded together" is the reverse build-up of a 4-layer and this is much more demanding in terms of registration than the traditional way of making a 4-layer. The reverse build-up is used for making blind vias in sequential build-up of a multi layer (2 x double sided board pressed to one 4-layer).
@sto27793 жыл бұрын
Trade secrets fully explained...
@MrAshwindersingh6 жыл бұрын
Osm work need more videos
@AlainMilardProd11 жыл бұрын
beau film
@UpcycleElectronics5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've seen several references to "hard gold plating" and just "Gold Plating," and had no clue what the difference is. Now I finally understand the difference. Is there a similar process difference/application for some kind of electroless silver plating versus a hard silver electrode-based plating?
@eurocircuits5 жыл бұрын
We have not yet encountered silver plating for PCB. Would be more applicable for components/connectors. All we offer on finishing techniques can be found here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/which-surface-finish-fits-your-design/ With a second chapter on hard gold connectors here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/gold-plating-for-edge-connectors/
@johnwilliams28774 жыл бұрын
There is an Immersion Silver process for PCB finishes, along with Immersion Gold, Hot air solder level and OSP
@Spacefish0078 жыл бұрын
Really great video :) looks like a lot of work and a lot of steps.. If any of these go wrong, you need to throw away the board?
@Dexter101x6 жыл бұрын
A lot of effort to produce boards
@VentureGalaxy11 жыл бұрын
very good commercial
@KJ7JHN4 жыл бұрын
I realize this video is a bit dated, however the process is still mostly up to date. I have a question: for a 4-in x 6 pcb, it would cost me around 60 euros?? Do you offer price matching? A competitor has produced 5 pcb's with shipping for less than $35.00 US.
@KJ7JHN4 жыл бұрын
Also, what is the link for your online PCB software design tool? And does it export to SVG as well as gerber easily?
@eurocircuits4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but we do not negotiate nor divert from our official price calculator. I can advise you a European alternative if you wish: www.pcb4maker.com Apart from that we have recently published our oppinion on very cheap board prices www.eurocircuits.com/blog/reaction-on-some-extreme-chinese-prices/
@micflynn17 жыл бұрын
I am wondering the board that was showed in this video, how much does it cost to have it made? is it just for large quantities or can a normal home brew person afford to have a board made?
@krutikaborsaniya17736 жыл бұрын
marvellous...
@haiweixiang23027 жыл бұрын
I LIKE THIS
@Demaflickers10 жыл бұрын
can i order pcbs made using diptrace?..it has gerber outout data
@NRBW7 жыл бұрын
Are you able to do milling before plating so one gets an edge plated PCBs ( really nice for RF ) ?
@eurocircuits7 жыл бұрын
Yes we can! PTH on the board edge, Copper up to the board edge and round-edge plating (the one you were referring to) are all interesting options for RF-specialists. They are in the calculator under advanced options: For RF applications we have a special pooling service: RF-pool: www.eurocircuits.com/rf-pool-all-the-benefits-of-pooling-on-rf-materials/
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@introprospector4 жыл бұрын
Yo check out that unshielded incidental UV frying the operator's retinas @17:00
@eurocircuits4 жыл бұрын
The yellow light coming from below (which you see at minute 17:00) is harmless and is just a help for the operator to positions the film and panels in the machine. The UV light operates inside the machine and is totally shielded from the outside of the machine. No retina's are fried. Some process knowledge is helpful to judge the safety of the process.
@introprospector4 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits Compare to @22:44. That machine has a cover over the slot in the machine the pcb goes into. The first one has no such cover, and light can be seen leaking out. I tagged the mark for the issue timestamp just before the UV turns on, the actual moment is at about @17:06.
@eurocircuits4 жыл бұрын
@@introprospector That is a bit of stray light, briefly coming out of the 2kW exposing unit for the dry film. The second machine is exposing soldermask with 8kW and for a longer time than a few seconds thus the stray light can have effect on the next panel being prepared by the operator, hence the cover. Both techniques are not used anymore for quite some time now as they are replaced by direct imaging machines which do not need film and boost the quality of the image and registration. Both can be seen in our newer movie: vimeo.com/201542361 Or here: www.eurocircuits.com/blog/how-do-we-expose-the-soldermask-during-production/
@studleylee8 жыл бұрын
I have a ball chair like that too!!!
@bernardlim288810 жыл бұрын
same process.... Drill the inner layer including blind vias and thruhole plating before laminating the outer layer.
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@LiLBitsDK2 жыл бұрын
very informative video, but this looked like "small productions/batches" how does this process compare to say running 1.000.000 motherboards would that be the exact same steps or do they do something "easier" due to the massive volume? since this way seems "very slow" if you need a large volume of PCB's
@eurocircuits2 жыл бұрын
Sames process. More and some larger machines and more automation to produce big series. We make prototypes and small series and hence we do not automate too much to not loose flexibility. Turnaround time in our factory is in average less than 48 hours and for series this is 12 to 15 days.
@LiLBitsDK2 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits which processeds do you do manually that a larger production would automate?
@eurocircuits2 жыл бұрын
@@LiLBitsDK Process steps? None. All are done by and in the same professional machines, whether you make prototypes or big series. Only proceeding from one machine to the next is highly automated in series production and not for prototypes as that leaves us the flexibility to switch priority at every single process step which is needed to reach all deadlines in time. For mass production this is not done and they work according "first in first out" throughout the entire process which brings flexibility down but handling costs also. Different kind of game: Prototypes / Series.
@LiLBitsDK2 жыл бұрын
@@eurocircuits thank you very much for explaining :D it looks very impressive.
@cralx2k11 жыл бұрын
AMAZING
@Pigeon_FX11 жыл бұрын
"on its way to HIM to be assembled into HIS finished product"
@aaa-hh8dv10 жыл бұрын
amazinf factory, i wonder the use that circuit boards , some knows ?o.o
@mohammedasadbubere65193 жыл бұрын
Is there any internship opportunities?
@jonathanrodriguez82192 жыл бұрын
Wow!!!
@johnwilliams287710 жыл бұрын
Ooops, error at 18:18 when he says carbon (not copper) layer already deposited there!
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@johnwilliams28773 жыл бұрын
Indeed, used it for a few years. I found it to be better than Ucam10. All the scripts ran a treat. I liked it.
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilliams2877 ohh thx for your feedback John. but I need this software. Is possible are you able to share this software in my email-id(newsdozens@gmail.com)?
@johnwilliams28773 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No sorry, it's a bespoke software for the PCB industry and you have to have a licence from Ucamco to run it (it's quite expensive too) besides which, I am now retired after some 40 years in the PCB industry. Sorry.
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilliams2877 okay anyhow thanks
@RespawnRestricted3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between Gerber and extended Gerber
@eurocircuits3 жыл бұрын
In short: extended Gerber embeds all apertures needed in each individual Gerber File. All you need to know about Gerber data: www.eurocircuits.com/gerber-format/
@kirkguille9 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How many sq inch of 2 layers pcb can you make per day?
@attilaherrera68578 жыл бұрын
For the purposes of citing this video, who was the author or main contributors?
@nickpelov10 жыл бұрын
Well presented, but it's a bit pricey.
@rethnagireeshwar719910 жыл бұрын
nice :)
@frankieboyo19698 жыл бұрын
Is that Prof Jim Al-Khalili narrating.
@TheMixmastamike10004 жыл бұрын
MORE THAN 50 LAYERS!!!!! 🤯
@eurocircuits4 жыл бұрын
The maximum we do is 16 layers, but there are colleagues that go way beyond 50 layers. But these applications are exceptions. The bulk of industrial electronic applications are made from 2 to 8 layers.
@TheMixmastamike10004 жыл бұрын
Eurocircuits before this video I thought the maximum number of layers was 4
@xXHacksAndTipsXx9 жыл бұрын
Hmm I really don't think I oculd make these cause I don't have these machines, the video could be called How 4 layer PCB are made
@multitechwalker10 жыл бұрын
without blind holes?
@davegeorge70947 жыл бұрын
Can't figure 100micron bits not breaking after 20 holes! How many use LASER drills?
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@davegeorge70943 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No, I've never drilled 100mic, just seams glass would dull bit too quicky. thanks
@RFT9867 жыл бұрын
it's totaly old manufacturing methods. now only 5 min to get finished 4 layer pcb.
@Bowowowification7 жыл бұрын
Please link me to the company that can have a finished 4 layer PCB in my hand 5 minutes after I give them the design. (I'm going to assume it's by drone or I have to live right next to their factory?)
@johnwilliams28777 жыл бұрын
Is that excluding the 2.5 hours in the press alone?
@RFT9867 жыл бұрын
CONTACT GLOBAL FOUNDERIES CHIP FACTORY, THEY WILL PROVIDE DETAILS
@johnwilliams28777 жыл бұрын
They manufacture semi conductors not Printed Circuit Boards made from FR4 grade fibreglass substrate, Polyimide, Rogers Ceramic etc etc so I think you are talking of something completely different.
@0x4C4A11 жыл бұрын
Not really clear how it makes blind vias.
@gianlucarocca15113 жыл бұрын
a bit boring... you could have speed up the explanation.. how come jlcpcb can explain you the all processes in 10 minutes? btw really great voice anyway and was interesting
@eurocircuits3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The video is not a commercial video but an educational video which comprises al separate video segments of the page we made specially for the educational world: www.eurocircuits.com/making-a-pcb-pcb-manufacture-step-by-step/ It dates from 2013 and was a request of several teachers. Later we made an update which shows newer technologies and which is not a stitch of separate videos of an educational course, and that takes about 13 minutes. You can find it here: @t One can always explain everything in an even shorter time, but if the goal is transfer of knowledge, you might worry about how much knowledge transfer you can do in just a few minutes.
@abc1231354110 жыл бұрын
youtube alargest programme in the world.
@shaikferoz990885 жыл бұрын
Were good
@xierxu4 жыл бұрын
How can I do this at home? I need clarity on what the purpose of the different layers.
@autechrak4 жыл бұрын
go away
@HoangNguyen-ks1tw11 жыл бұрын
please tell me 6.32-6.48, how to clean?....Na0H, or acide?
@hankbizzo58 жыл бұрын
Wow there must be high levels of F.O.D on these panels..
@NewsDozens3 жыл бұрын
Hi, do u have UcamX software?
@hankbizzo53 жыл бұрын
@@NewsDozens No i don't.
@Music_Engineering3 жыл бұрын
Just fyi, non-males can also be electrical engineers, lol :D
@eurocircuits3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. This was one of the first movies we made 8 years ago and as non English natives we need to pay more attention to these issues. In the mean time we have a newer versions with updated technology @t and yet are again making a new series of movies about PCB manufacturing techniques as technology has again been updated. I hope we also do better on language and that can be judged here where all our videos are: www.eurocircuits.tv We do hope you like the content and keep following us!
@PerMejdal10 жыл бұрын
So much manual labour...
@biltema200011 жыл бұрын
00:46 wow that guy works slow
@mlac210 жыл бұрын
What about NPTH?
@johnwilliams287710 жыл бұрын
The base laminate is drilled with tooling holes, this is then sensitized with a photo resist and a negative image of the circuit is exposed onto it using UV light. This hardens the resist where exposed and the image is developed to expose the unwanted copper. This is then etched off using (ammoniacal) etchant and the photoresist is stripped to expose the wanted copper. Add the solder mask, silk screen then the metal finish as usual. Finally profile the board with an NC router. (in a nutshell). Hope this helps!
@ArsenioDev9 жыл бұрын
Seed the walls with... PALLADIUM?
@Leonelf09 жыл бұрын
Arsenio Dev i think it's used as a catalyst, so the copper can get deposited at the walls of the pcb