Yes, I also covered the gap with mylar so there is now no Gap. (It was a big gap) It had an odd characteristic where when flying it seemed to have boundary layer separation which was very strange. I'm not quite sure if that was it or not, but it would dive a little bit and it would get real fast, until you kind of jerked it up a little bit, then it would slow down again. I suspected this is what it was and I put window brads out at the tips of the wing in front of the elevon's to break up the air a little bit over the flying surfaces. I'll never forget the first time I flew it with a bunch of guys who had competition gliders on the hill, I mean these were $1,200 ships, and I had just climbed right through them on the first flight speced out over top of them. It was glorious! I still have it it's upstairs at my shop, but I have since made a 2-foot center section for it, but had to put it away recently due to starting construction on my Horten again.

Yes, but the only thing bad about it is when you speed up a finless wing with washout things get a little bit weird. This plane is best as a floater, without a motor. It will climb in the lightest of thermals

I'm honored, I remember hearing about the klingberg wing way back when I first started into hang gliding in the early 90s. Then of course AIR came out with the atos and blew everybody away, but not before the Exxtasy and all the other rigid Wings started dominating hang gliding My dream was to build a Horten Ho IV with modern material's like carbon and Kevlar and experiment with more modern airfoils.. Cheers

The Paoli Wing seems to be a great design, but the approach the original designer had at the wing tips was not my idea of how a flying wing should be constructed, and I did add reflex in my redesign which Incorporated not flipping the elevons. I wish I had the time to finish thd new centersection i made for it. It will increase the wingspan 24 inches.

Holy crap, are you at funston? That's on my bucket list as far as places to fly on the West Coast, I've flown Torrey Pines, but that was before I got married LOL

After watching that video again after years being past, I look back and I say to myself "wow I sure had a lot of time on my hands" Especially in the construction of those spoilers at the tip. I had forgotten how detailed they were. I actually constructed a center section for this aircraft, and made it even bigger with the hopes of recovering it and reworking it. But it seems lately I just can't seem to get my shit together to build anything anymore. And now one of my best friends has learned slicer programs, CAD programs, and has moved on to 3D printing airplanes. He's like 75 years old. So you can teach Old Dogs new tricks. There is hope, but little time.

Yeah, my last flight was in 2015. My daughter was getting to the age of needing more attention so I stopped hang gliding. I was looking at the sky just today saying how nice it would have been to be up there.

Hello, im building a 2.5 balsa horten III. It's tailless and have questions of the stability. I want that plan!

@@hectormunoz3575 The Horten III had 6

@@hectormunoz3575 6 degrees of wash out. One way to get this is build the wing upside down and taper the washout from root to tip

I have much more, but at the present I am occupied with renovating a new townhouse.

@@flashted I look forward to more! Happy renovation and congrats on a new town house!

@@alistairclark6814 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acePm5SmsKjQaaM.html

Hello, Yes, it fly's well. That video was shot in 25 mph plus winds. I had a power pod on it, but I felt that it caused to much drag. The problem I am finding out with a "pure" flying wing planform is that when a lot of power is added, things get interesting. If you go to this video, at the 2:24 mark you will see what I mean. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLmbdsmlx7rRc4E.html

Love the fact that he saved it...

Saying the original design was 'wrong' without trying it seems narrow-minded. Could easily imagine how swapping ailerons of that shape could have the effect of building in progressive washout as move towards the wingtips, and that is a characteristic of several true flying wings I've seen. But anyway congrats on the project and the discipline it takes to complete such a project!

Beautiful workmanship!

@@georgekforrpv6857 There is an order in the universe, and that's the ideal model to follow. There is also something called Chaos Theory, which is what I was trying to avoid.

Original design I messed up?, go take the time to build one of these things, cut out the tips, and flip them upside down and take a good look at that bullshit that that guy had at the tips. I don't need a PhD in aircraft design to know that that original design was crap , and nobody's boasting anything just because I fly a hang glider dude. I added reflex to the trailing edge of this thing to help it out slightly, but that guy had some sort of strange experiment going on, and that's the reason why you've never seen one of these things fly before.

@@flashted I have built many RC models, including flying wings. Designed & built many from scratch, going back to the 70s for RC & the 60s for free flight & CL models. I have built models commercially as well. I know exactly what it takes to build them. Perhaps I'm not picturing your explanation correctly. It seems to me you described the original design cut the section at the reflex point & flipped it upside down. This is effectively the same as reflex.

…dont listen to the technical antisocial snobs…keep your integrity and continue experiment…thats the way that build experince…say an 70 year old boy…

Yes, Kasper experimented with a concept called "vortex lift".

Hey, if I remember right, the original laser coordinates had two airfoils. 205 and the 207 eppler. It could be the 205. There could be an error on the plans. I will have to check. The plans are free, I do believe there is a link on the video. Not only that, but I think the website that I uploaded the plans to includes about 100 pictures that I took during the construction of it also. The plane in the video I constructed in 2 halves. The plans show three pieces, two outer panels and a center section which is really the way to go. Keep in mind that the plans show older graupner spoilers out at the tips of the Wings, which are unavailable if I remember right, but the pics show ones you can make yourself, although complicated. At one point I was going to foam core it, and Skin it in carbon fiber, or completely Hollow mold it with the vacuum infusion method. Ideally now, it would be best to 3D print this thing. But the problem is it depends on where you're going to be flying it. If you fly on a trash mound like I do, it would be best to make this thing out of EPP. If you're lucky enough to have a flying site on the coast of California, Ireland, or Australia where you can top land safely, you could make it out of something that's a little bit more fragile,yet lighter, and more efficent. Remember, Epp is very heavy though. It could even be made out of foam board very cheaply. Currently I am working on a 3D printed Horton ho-229 V2 that uses 2 50mm or maybe 64 mm ducted fans if I can get them to fit. I'm going to do a new video soon, as I picked up a lot of subscribers out of nowhere all the sudden. I've been away because I had to move, covid, all that nonsense.

@@flashted Yep, it looks a lot more like the Eppler 205. I haven't plotted it out to check it properly yet, and will drop you a line when I have done so. I have built a plane or two out of 3D printed components in the past. They worked out well enough, but I am a bit old school and for the moment I am sticking to foam composites. Heck, I love the smell of epoxy in the morning! You guessed right - I live on the East coast of Australia and have the luxury of a mown grass runway that goes as far as the eye can see, plus some pretty decent cliffs. I also have a few acres of grass up to my armpits for those first flights ... BTW, I have recently built a Verhees Delta from a kit and they offer a small Horten wing that you might like. They do a good job on their kits, and the Horten can be found at www.rbckits.com/shop/flying-wings-deltas.html

@@nenadstojadinovic8326 Nice didnt know RBC was still in business. Love that BV 212, although I have plans for it, a kit would be nice.

Hello, no twist, just a little bit of reflex at the back edge. If you want the plans, reply back here and I will send you a link.

@@flashted Yes, I am interested. Thank you. You mean same angle approach from root to tip? Sorry, but my mother tongue is not English and maybe I am not using the appropriate technical words.

@@gonzalop.chomon327 Yes, same angle. I will post a link to this comment, look for the plans, you will have it soon. The link will be good for 3 days. Cheers we.tl/t-sX2HALDWDo

we.tl/t-sX2HALDWDo Here is a link to the plans. Safe file transfer site. You must be a member of Hip pocket Aeronautics in order to download plans from that site. I have included a Horten sloper also. Cheers Ted

@@flashted Thank you very much. Downloading now :)

Yeah believe it or not, we're all hang glider Pilots not Motocross racers

Yeah, I know that now. what I really wanted to achieve with this thing was basically to prove the design and then I was going to mold it out of fiberglass and carbon. It would be very difficult to cut it out of EPP. Green foam and vacuum bag it maybe. It had a few inconsistencies in the leading edge, because it's made out of wood and if you sand a little bit too much here you mess the air foil up slightly, you sand a little bit too much there you mess the airfoil up. I noticed this when I sighted the leading edge from the tip looking towards the cord. But, it flies. the original builder, on his web page, flipped the elevans from one side to another and God only knows what kind of airfoil he had at the tip. my plans corrected all that. it's a great plane, I remember one of the first times I flew it with a bunch of competition guys flying Pike perfects, I climbed right through them and their jaws were like whoa! but after all the most efficient Wing possible for flight is a pure flying wing that's tailless, just like a bird. That's next for me I have some bird designs that I'm going to put up on my KZfaq channel. All made from EVA foam.

@@flashted когда будешь вкручиваться в термик увидишь как тяжело держать в спирале летающее крыло. Никогда оно не победит классику

Yes, it could use a complete redesign, I intended to vacuum Hollow mold this Wing from carbon fiber. The airfoil on the wooden plane was not consistent enough for me from root to tip. The airfoil could be also updated, as the airfoil used was semi-symmetrical. The aircraft was used as a personal design study to see if a "true" tailless, finless wing could be fairly stable without spinning flippity floppy out of the air without the anhedral in the design, as found in my hang glider. I achieved my goal.

Was thinking about making a modern version of the Horten Ho IV, or VI, but with carbon fibre kevlar etc.. Ron Klingberg is living the same dream, but with his own design.. Check out his channel youtube.com/@klingbergwingmkii?si=1UiUgr67S20WItmT

I will get you a link

@@flashted Thanks in advance

@@5er593Hey, I will post a link via a file transfee site. Look for the notification via comments here. As soon as you see my notification, you must use the link within a day or so as it will expire. Safe download site called "We Transfer" The plans at Hip Pocket Aderonautics, are there, but the site is a bit dated, and wonky to use. Cheers Cheers

Here is the Link for the plans let me know if you have any trouble we.tl/t-ZnMfqL5EKY

Yeah, it was an incredibly windy day. There were a lot of planes up also, but usually mid air's are pretty rare. Even when we did combat with zagi type flying wings, it was pretty difficult to hit people who you wanted to hit LOL I haven't been up there in a while, so I decided to rework an old Great Planes bird of time into an autonomous soaring fpv plane. I'm going to post a new video covering it soon. Cheers...