We can’t go back… I love my old cars but the planet can’t take much more notwithstanding the effect on our breathable air!

let's bring in repairable long lasting cars, stop built in redundancy. that way we make less cars and save our resources.

Jaguar have really screwed themselves... I always thought that they were jumping into electric-only far too early. Has there ever been a car company that's been so mismanaged yet still survives?

I have always been against electricity being ruled as a blanket solution to everything.

I don't have EV's.. But I hate the push to force out ICE.

Governments need to GET THE HELL OUT of the auto business.

At age 64 here in the States, I ride my e-bike on errands around town and commuting half the time, and I drive a regular car for the rest and for now, that works well for me. And an EV would not be possible, no way to charge it in my apartment and too pricey to purchase. And last February I went on a road trip with a friend who drives a gas/electric hybrid car and that was great, seemed about perfect. Gas power on the highway, electric power around town and the car knows which power source to tap on its own. Cool.

This is what happens when hype meets reality.

Just goes to show how government really knows nothing about anything

I've bought my 3 children a Toyota Aygo, Suzuki Alto and Vauxhall Agila as first cars, all small, light, normally aspirated petrol. All under £2k, all reliable, all 50mpg+. No manufacturing carbon footprint due to age. As a means to get from A to B cars cars like these are the best solution imo. Btw, I'm no eco warrior, I own an R8 😂

Nothing screams "car guy" like a Weber DCOE as an ornament on a side table.

Governments also failed by badly supporting infrastructure: In order to make an EV useful, the car needs to be charged when you set off on a journey, which means home charging. People living in cities (especially in high rise flats) without home parking have no access to this & there has been no incentive to resolve it.

Said from day one that electric is not going to be the way forward! The damage and the carbon footprint for electric cars is higher when you take into account the batteries!

My V8 is 35 years old and with decent maintenance will outlast EV's on the road now.

It truly is inevitable! Greetings from the Netherlands. Thanks for all the work you put in Jack. Well worth it.

As an Aston Martin DB9 owner I see this as further proof that I need to just carry right on as normal! No I don't daily it, I have a hybrid SUV for doing the boring everyday family stuff but on Sundays & Fundays, just for a few hours I haven't a care in the world! Long live the Infernal Combustion Engine I say!👍👏👏👏☺️ PS. A DB9 only weighs 1785kg😉

Agree with you 100% on the weight issue Jack. 👍

100% agree that cars should be taxed by weight. Its ROAD tax (VED is the tax you pay to use to use your car on the road for and pedantics out there)! Use it to fix the roads being crushed by these tanks

I’m with you there Jack 🎉 I work in the trade, some 44 yrs, the last 34 as breakdown and recovery……… we see a lot of EV anomalies first hand. I think I’m known as a hater of battery EV’s which isn’t true…….. I advocate small, highly efficient, short range cars for home charging, commuting, shopping…….. delivering progeny for indoctrination about the myriad genders and the way we ruined the world with our fangled inventions…… sorry, I digress 😊 Big EV’s are a total nonsense…….. one scenario that makes me chuckle, big boss has his new Rolls Canardly……. I mean Spectre……… his driver will always ensure it’s topped up. In his old Phantom, if Jeeves really had to, he could back out of cruise and whoosh into the hell that is MOTO, splash and dash……… big boss may not even notice. However, queuing for an available charger, finding it doesn’t work, queuing for another, then having a 30 minute charge, realising that due to demand you’re only getting 7kw and you are looking at 4 hours for a meaningful charge……… big boss will melt down. Ignoring the meteoric drop in value, the treatment akin to leprosy at a dealer if you try to get rid…… 🙁 Electric traction motors are wonderful……… hybrid, fuel cell etc is a future worth chasing. Battery EV is an evolutionary dead end 😥

Japanese have Kei cars - millions of them, fitting a massive need. Here in Australia, the popular "car" is either a massive TwinCab truck, or an inefficient SUV. Kei cars were laughed at - but as city cars would be excellent. People cry "safety" - so drive lumbering 2½ tonne vehicles pretending they're sports cars. Edit - back when I was learning to drive, Honda was selling the 3 metre, 500kg N360/600, later the Z. There was the Mini - just over 3m long, 600kg. Both those were common on the roads and owners loved them. Subaru & Daihatsu had popular tiny cars (& vans) too.

Mr. Toyoda knows what he wants and what he's doing

You make great points. One thing about electric cars that's had me scratching my head is the obsession with the 0 to 100 km/h aka 62 mph. Seems any longer than 5 seconds is bad and less than 3 is good. Ignored seems to be the fact that if one does this just a small number of times the range becomes close enough to useless.

The 2.0 in the Mazda 3 is the engine of the moment imo. It does everything right

-- Jack, you are sooooo correct about the weight issue. A few examples: My first new vehicle was a 1978 Golf/Rabbit Mk 1, 1.5L, leaded fuel, 71hp, 53kw, 4-sp manual, 1750 to 2150 lbs. Very high mileage - 40 or so mpg to the best of my recollection. Sat 4 comfortably. My current vehicle, with more weight and safety features, but much better technology, is a 2020 Kia Forte/Cerato/K3, 3rd gen. 2.0L Nu engine, 147hp, approx 2900 lbs, 40mpg on the highway, 35 combined. Seats 4 comfortably. Large trunk for lots of stuff. Notice a trend here? Both of these cars are substantially more efficient on a life-cycle basis than any mid- or large-size EV. -- I parked my silver Kia next to a stainless Cybertruck the other day and took a photo-it looked like mama bear and a newborn cub. The cybertruck looked stupid-much more stupid than any mama bear could be. -- We've all (especially Americans) have become spoiled. If all of us drove right-sized vehicles, we wouldn't have government EV mandates, methinks.

I think you'll find Mazda, unlike many, had never stopped developing the combustion engine alongside their EV offerings because they understand people want choice and 1 size does not fit all

As a EV owner this is great news. EV's are crap

Last year I was paying 60 pense to park my electric van in London for four hours.Since January, that figure has gone up to 28 pounds! Having checked the council website, I was shocked to read their explanation for the price increase from 60 pence to 28 pounds. They say that significant levels of CO2 is being released during the production process of electrical vehicles.

Give the guy your time to listen. He makes the great point that greed for profit has wrecked the electric car dream. Instead of small combustion engine cars carrying 1 - 4 people and weighing less than 750kg, manufacturers are building huge electric cars carrying the same number of people but weighing twice to three times as much. This never made any sense. Would be great for everyone and for the environment to see the return of cars like the Citroen 2CV, the Kijang Toyota, the original FIAT Panda and and the still-born FIAT ECO-Basic.

That is exactly how I have been thinking about electric cars. I just love light cars, I have classic Minis, Lotus Elises, and for everyday transport we have 3 Audi A2 3L. in the family. I am doing about 50 miles a day in the summer at 87MPG. Current milage is 273000. My son has a very nice 2004 model milage is 430000. We have fitted aftermarket DPF filters, so that they can be used in low emission zones like Copenhagen. Alloy so no rust. I have looked a lot at the BMW I3, but the tyres are expensive, and the cost of buying. And those A2s just runs fine.

I'm glad you mentioned BMW. The current CEO got rid of the carbon manufacturing and killed off the i3 and i8 with no replacement. I have an i8, an X5 45e Hybrid and the latest M4 CSL. I will always keep the i8 it is absolutely the best BMW ever built. The current CEO doesn't understand driver involvement and has gone on record as stating that electric and batteries are powerful enough not to worry about weight. This shows he has no idea about driver engagement or the fact the impact and damage heavy cars have to the environment. I want guilt freeish driving and the i8 and i3 did just that. No current BMW comes close in fact the i4 M has been slated as poor in all press tests.

I think I will invest in small, coal-burning steam engines for road use.

A win for the people. A reality check for the manufacturers. Don’t tell us what to drive. It’s our money and our choice. We tell you what to make.

China doesn't do much IC development. They license, join venture or just copy IC technology.

Brilliant Jack, I was and still am of the opinion that electic cars were not thought through properly. Yes they are heavy, yes they are very expensive and to top it off they still don't have enough range considering the lack of charge stations. Read what Rowan Atkinson wrote, re the electric car... john

Volvo promised to go all electric didn’t they? 🤷‍♂️

I've been longing for this development for over a decade... even discussed it with researchers who already over 10 years ago realized the necessity of diverse propulsion technology. Good to hear! Thanks 👍

Anyone interested in all the controversies surrounding decabonization needs to see this video. Excellent presentation. So many commonsense obsevations. Well done Jack!

As of right now, I think the best thing to do would be mild hybrids, aka no large battery packs, just a very efficient internal combustion engine aided by an electric motor. For example, if you were to take, say, a 1.2L naturally aspirated Inline 4 engine and really optimize it for fuel economy and longevity, it would produce something like 75-85hp. Add a small electric motor with 30hp or so to it, and now you have a very compact powertrain that'll be perfect for a city car. It's gonna use very little fuel and last a long time, and thanks to the electric motor it'll be zippy around town. Add a turbo and maybe a slightly more powerful electric motor, and you have a hot hatch. I think you're right though, vehicles should be taxed on weight. But I also think that for most people and what they really need day-to-day, they don't need more than 100-120hp (or a bit more on a large SUV or pickup), and I include myself there too. In my opinion, cars don't need to be more powerful with every new generation because the speed limits we have aren't changing, or if anything they're gonna be lowered. In my country (Austria) the speed limit on the highways is 130km/h, or 80mph. Even the base trims of a Skoda Fabia, Fiat 500 or a Hyundai I10 with like 70hp will get to that speed, eventually. And if you live in the city and rarely drive outside of town, then I'd argue those cars are really all you need. In the cities, I see so many big SUVs like Audi Q5, Q7, BMW X5, Mercedes GLE, VW Touareg etc. and almost every time there's only a single person sitting in it, the driver. And that just seems wasteful. If you're on your own, how much interior/trunk space do you really need on a daily basis? I'd argue that for most people something like a Toyota Yaris would suffice. It weighs 1000kg less than those cars, is much cheaper, still has 4 seats if you need them and certainly enough trunk space for your daily groceries.

The problem is the GOVERNMENTS have put such unrealistic requirements for pollution and mileage on these vehicles already... that's why we've ended up with tiny turbo motors that don't last more than 100K miles (if you're lucky). They need roll back some of the requirements and let the reliability return to 90's/2000's levels.

I just love that classic RC10. Displaying it like that is a great idea.

Brilliant, I honestly think you are providing the most intelligent motoring material on KZfaq

I always knew... Hybrid is the way to go... EV was a pipe dream

We all knew that 2030 was far too soon and now even 2035 is too soon.

Vielen Dank für Ihren hervorragenden Bericht! Gott sei Dank werden es immer mehr Hersteller, die die politischen Vorgaben aus unternehmerischer Sicht bewerten und dann vernünftigerweise den Verbrennungsmotor weiterentwickeln. Sehr interessant auch Ihre Erklärung zu den deutschen Autoherstellern. Ich habe grundsätzlich nichts gegen E-Autos. Sie müssen im Alltag aber ohne Einschränkungen funktionieren. Das ist aber bisher nicht der Fall. Vielen Grüße aus Deutschland in das Vereinigte Königreich!

The technology to get 50-100 mpg has been around for decades….the only reason it’s been ignored is because the public didn’t demand it….and because fuel has always been available and relatively cheap.

Meanwhile we car enthusiasts, "We don't want to say we told you so but..."

My parents own an EV ( Tesla) my Dad can't wait to return to petrol power, in the UK we just aren't ready for Ev's ....charging points etc, let's face it EV's aren't going to save the planet anyway, it's just another political push! Remember the push for diesel power, I think hybrid is the best middle ground. Excellent stuff as always Jack buddy 👍....oh weight is an excellent point! Cars are 4x heavier now but so are people 😂

Hallelujah Jack! It's about time the whole EV thing was hashed-out. See my CNG LR soon.

Finally.. someone with a brain talking about electric cars.

Superbly put. You hit the nail on the head and hopefully the evangelical attitude to EV's as well.

Fuck me! is the rest of the world finally seeing this now? No-one needed a car with lunatic speed and/or a 4 ton Hummer. Nor did it need a completely new fuel system, motor, car to carry these things and charging stations to keep them all going. And what are the power stations generating all this demand running on? wind? I think not. What it needed was all those resources pushed into a synthetic fuel that existing cars could run on and new engines could benefit from. Chuck an electric engine in there too if you want but EV's are and were not the be all and end all imho. Shame it's taken right up to now to see that. Love the Tamiya Rough Rider(?) in the background. Circa 1979 iirc...

Nice one, Jack! I couldn't agree more! Right now, here in Alberta, Canada (the Texas of the North) I keep seeing little Kei trucks and cars on our roads. These have some real advantages here for small businesses and deliveries, they use very little petrol as compared to regular North American Trucks, and for our Winters they have 4wd (some even with Diff Locks). I have even seen Hunters and Sportspeople purchasing them and then adding off-road ATV Tires to these Kei Trucks and then use them as Side x Side Off-Road machines. There are so many new small trucks from Ford's Maverick to a host of new Japanese, Chinese and European small trucks. So if we, the largest consumers of Pick-Up Trucks are taking a hard look at these smaller options, then why aren't manufacturers offering small efficient little cars from EV's like the Nobe's pretty little 3wd car and All wheel drive small trucks to Kei inspired cars and sporty cars for other than the JDM. The internal combustion engine will likely never really go away, it is too much linked to us and our future. Can't wait to see what comes next! Take care - Dave

Keen to hear more on this…. Also, Nice RC10 👍🏻👍🏻 I’ve got mine in the garage.

It all started going pear shaped with OBD2, the mere notion that politicians were going to dictate the pace of product development was inevitably going to end up a shitshow. Every time they introduce a new standard I'm reminded of the story about the man who invented chess and in return asked for more rice than had ever existed... unrealistic expectations never end well.

BRING BACK V10 TO F1

At last. I’ve been saying all this for a couple of years. Thank god the manufacturers are finally realising. Great video. Really interesting. ❤

Agree with all of that. Spot on as ever Jack. We need good, efficient, lightweight SMALL cars!!

Diesel is a shame that it’s being villinified! There is allot of development to be had there and having a diesel series hybrid is probably the best all around solution for the masses.

EVs are fine for local transport and tbh make more sense, but as I always say ‘one size doesn’t fit all!’ Talking of size, I think you’re spot on with the fact that we have a load of overweight and overpriced heffalumps on the road today. It’s not just BEVs though, but generally with the SUV obsession! The public need to vote with their feet though, otherwise nothing will change!

That was useful to know. Thanks, Jack.

Great video. I would be happy for combustion engines to come back. I run a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. This has been great, as I can drive zero emissions for a round 30 miles, and still have the petrol engine for when I need to go further. The 30 mile range caters for around 90% of my day to day journeys, and the petrol engine means I don't need to worry about finding and waiting for charging when I'm away. I was going for full electric, but the charging infrastructure is just not there yet.

I’ve just bought a Mercedes diesel that does 68mpg, happy as fook thank you very much. EV’s are NOT the future.

We have incompetent governments. They get caught up in the latest thing too often, going too far, instead of taking measured controlled responses.

Thanks for bringing this up! I love my fully electric BMW I3, thats now ten years old, and know it may have some malfunction that makes it worthless at any time, but so far it has been my cheapest transportation ever for the three years I have had it. At the same time, this car is useless for long distance. I usually only travel long by car during summer, and petrol cars are both more fun and more practical, in the sense that you actually get to the destination without spending time at charging spots. I'm looking forward to travel trough Europe in my little Fiat Barchetta soon, and the Maserati GranTurismo S i always a blast. The milage may be expensive, but you get there. The emissions, seen from a bureaucrat, may be very high, but the total usage is so little in total so it doesn't matter. For me this news are great, I cat get petrol for my cars also in the future. Who cares about diesel?

I am a fan of inline motors. Inline 4 cylinder motors from 2L, all the way up to 3L and inline 6 cylinder motors from 3L all the way up to 4 Litres. 3 litre 6 cylinder motors have been able to produce 255 horsepower and 225 pounds feet of torque and return mid twenties in terms of miles per gallon without turbos or electric motors for over a decade. Granted, not everyone is going to be impressed by 0-60 mph in six seconds flat with 30 mpg highway, but that's progress.

Thanks for sharing this common sense good news 😊

Hi Jack, what you said about EVs being taxed on weight I would take it a stage further and tax them on kWhr/km (equivalent mpg) and max power of their drive motors This would treat EVs in the same way as ICEs The more energy that you use and the more power your car has them the higher your tax This would incentivise smaller, more economical EVs

Your a legend.....you have just confirmed my thoughts

Very thoughtful point of view you present here.

This is why I have felt that focus have been on BEVs for far too long: you could do much more with hybrids that still are compatible with the current infrastructure while focusing on much cleaner energy in other industries with a greater effect overall (no coal or fossil fuel power plants, reduction of emissions in the shipping industry, payments to governments like Brazil to end deforestation). Going to a fully electric individual transport model should be done AFTER all the things I just said, not before...

Lets be honest, this was inevitable right from the start. Everyone, governments included, jumped on the bandwagon without putting any thought whatsoever into the practicalities of full electrification. It's been years since their policies were made, yet most places still have almost no infrastructure for EVs at all, and no ideas on how people without a garage or driveway are supposed to maintain one. I'll never understand why government ministers are so incapable of seeing what is so blatantly obvious to the rest of us. We'll get there one day because we have to, but the timeframe they originally set was always completely unrealistic and ultimately impossible.

Does make logical sense to ‘transition’ into greener future. How these manufacturers have been allowed to produce all these ‘tank-mobiles’ is the reality of how serious they all are when profits at risk. Very informative Number 27. Please carry on.

Spot on! I can understand why the first EVs are large expensive prestige vehicles because that is where the profit lies, and there was no government encouragement to produce small EVs for short commutes, local and city use, where the benefits of low carbon output is most effective. Taxing a car's weight is a good way of raising the revenue to maintain our infrastructure, but a car's efficiency (Kw/mile?) is also important to reduce the impact on the environment, because of how and where the electricity is generated.

TBH, all this sounds like an attempt to head off all those ultra-cheap EV's coming out of China which, without trade barriers, will flatten most of the companies named here.

Never accepted ev as the future, hopefully the manufacturers will no longer be driven by the eco warriors and this will enable the successful continuation and development of our heritage in motoring.

Nice work mr 27 about time someone thought about mr chapmans ideas, cars should be light

I’ve been following this with interest for all the same reasons you have mentioned. This whole EV thing was a knee jerk reaction to a very real problem, but with just our economies in mind and not the option of pursuing properly developed technology or joined-up thinking across the number of alternative fuels available and in development. This is now an exciting opportunity to make a real difference and still deal with the effect that personal vehicle transport has on a global problem. We also need to look elsewhere and stop blindly blaming transportation for the climate problem, but this is a significant step with intelligent thinking. Finally we could be seeing a new dawn in vehicle technology. By the way Jack, totally agree about the i3 and i5, a brave bold step by BMW, largely ignored for no good reason!

There are rumblings in F1, of a return to lighter, all petrol drivetrains. Which would be brilliant for F1 as the cars due to the weight of the batteries are over two-hundred kilos heavier than F1 cars of old.

There is no excuse for those trousers.

Agree with everything you said. Noone is going to convince me that an electric car weighing 2.5 tons is greener than a Golf Tdi.

Even in the 80's small cars (super mini's) were in the 700-800kg bracket, 90's class leaders were 800-900kg. With all the crash resistance built in, and all of the aids and comforts this is now more like 1100-1200kg. If you look at the bigger cars, like a Mondeo or similar they are so big they don't even fit in a parking bay, and some are also over weight. A parking bay is 2.4 X 4.8m, and a lot of car parks are designed to a limited load (1500kg is shown on some signs, 1600kg others) that is exceeded by some of these models. There was also a part of the highway code that meant you had to leave your lights on overnight with some of these vehicles. I think they might have removed the clause though along with a lot of the other things that people ignored. I'm surprised they still have speed limits in there. But I would like to thank all of the hard-working auto manufacturers and civil servants who have contributed to making our parking infrastructure too small for their cars... well done 👏

The fuels they are talking about using are approx. 10 times the price of petrol. Bet everyone cannot wait top pay £100 per gallon.

The problem with EV is that there is no cash cow to milk and bring in cash after sale. Wear and tear is heavily reduced but the battery replacement costs will make up for this. Also ICE does more damage than just emissions. It uses a lot of bad solvents and the replacement of all the fluids is very damaging to the environment.

Thanks for this very interesting vidéo. I do agree with you, you are SO right....

Brilliant big picture presentation, Jack. And BTW, you're right about those Jerrys wanting to build road masters. Every time I see a Volkswagen ATLAS, I shake my head. I have to ask myself, that's a VW ?? !! ??

Look at the new Citroen eC3. Sub £20k....180 mile range... Also the batteries can be refused and recycled, try that with fossil fuels

Was always going to happen.. full EV was always a dead end! I've been telling people this for years!

the one time the invisible hand has done its thing. hope to see more of it

A lot of good news to unpack there Jack. BEV's have gotten off on the wrong foot because of the Govt mandates. We can clean up our cities and environs by having small electric vehicles that have low initial purchase cost and simple, efficient uncomplicated design. Nobody needs a BEV that goes 0-100 in 2 seconds, not really. We just need to be able to get around our cities without having to walk everywhere.

Jack - love your car reviews, but honestly speaking am personally certain that because oil will undoubtedly run out, and so believing that the fossil powered cars have a future is a dream. The inherent proposition of an EV is that they are 80pct efficient and grids are rapidly decarbonising, so that they are simply a better answer. As time goes by batteries will get lighter, and infrastructure will improve so that you don't need a massive battery. r

I don't see the point. Develop small EVs, not cling to the past must be the motto. Even if there is still some potential in combustine engines, there is so much more in the EV space since the develepoment there only really started maybe 10, 15 years ago. It's not like combustine engines are bad today, rather the opposite I would say, at least in terms of efficiency, but the problem remains that they burn fossil fuel and that will never change. Unless you are talking about e fuels, but that is also not much more than a pipe dream at the moment and will probably not be at a reasonable price point any time soon, if ever.

Totally agree Jack, the push from gvmt to ban petrol and diesel cars was not a well thought out plan. While EVs will benefit some people they are not the future of motoring. Using e-fuels and synthetic fuels would be my preference and as engines are so efficient these days they will have very little or possibly no emissions. Hope the Pantera rebuild is going well!

Spot on, it's like listening to myself 😅

The way forward is DIESEL and always has been. Diesel powered cars with an effective DPF installation have the smallest carbon footprint if fuelled by bio-diesel. What other fuel can be grown in a field refined on a small scale, delivered locally all at minimal cost both financially and to the environment. The move to EVs is a total disgrace in every regard. The Chinese and Indian manufacturers must be laughing themselves wet as they burn off millions of tonnes of fossil fuel (coal) and plunder rare earth minerals whilst producing vehicles that are bizarrely being touted as our route to carbon neutrality

Hydrogen as a fuel is just stupid

Great video, great news, hybrids and lightweight EVs please and thanks.

Five star's, Jack. Very good investigating. Send it to your local, M. P.

The ICE Fan Club which is hopping for the wonder engine like the Führer for the Wunderwaffe… We know what has happened…

This is great news and not misleading at all.

The inevitable transition away from combustion to electric motive power will have bumps along the way but the superiority of an electric drivetrain is so obvious to anyone who drives and owns an EV. No more messing about with oily bits and having to handle dirty, smelly pumps. The car charges while you are sleeping or doing something else and after 5 years and over 100,000 km with one I am never going back to 'suck-squeeze-bang-blow'. I drove a friends petrol car recently and it was like someone from a bygone age, so clunky and the cost of fuelling it!