Who could imagine that importing poverty and ignorance would make a country poorer and more ignorant? 🤷

Some would say migration!?!?!? Migration is THE root cause for most of Swedens woes, make absolutely no mistake about it. Sweden is essentially two counties, a traditional Swedish, comprising ethnic Swedes and well assimilated immigrants, still doing perfectly fine, and a new one created by politicians that is undermining its foundations. Many Swedes don't want to pay for this any longer and want no part in it. Private health insurance is becoming more common as a result, for instance, and people pay big money to avoid bad areas etc. This Finnish lady have absolutely no idea. It's astonishing that people never learn, even as it plays out in front of their very eyes.

I don’t understand this interview, picking 3 unknown politician expressing their opinions didn’t educate me on the situation in the Nordics other than trolling the situation of these countries. Obviously the last decade immigration has failed in the integration, which needs to be addressed. However, this should not be mixed with the Nordic model the trust of the political system among the population (Finland rated #1 in happiness).

this broadcast is a clear proof that you do not take hold of the reality you have chosen for many years and open up to immigrants who do not understand our culture, but you have closed the door to Latin America and Christian African nations. Italy is very successful with doctors from Brazil for smaller medical centers, and Denmark is very successful with Ukrainian social workers. we can avoid these skewed debates if we tackled culture and religion, those who do not want western culture, and those who are part of western culture.

Norway and Iceland have been excluded from this debate! Norway has not a COVID debt but made unforeseen gains of petroleum income. However the ACER project has been a disaster. European problems on energy that is not our problem. Industry and families are suffering with souring prices have been imported from Europe.

looks like Charlie Weimers is connecting from Baghdat City Bazaar, he picked a very good spot to make his point :D

Haven't many western democracies in Europe moved towards the Nordic model the during the last 20 years? It doesn't feel like the nordics are that different from Germany, Netherlands, France nowadays.

It works when the economy is growing as it did for decades after WWII but once the growth stops as it has done here in Finland the welfare state has run off a cliff and is running on air, like in those old cartoons. The debt just piles up.

In which country is the Nordic model applied?

This is a very good and educative discussion! Well done!

So instead of Europe taking the social supports as a positive and try to adopt it, they are now cutting back, so the rich in the world can get ricer and the poor poorer.

"They will be made part of the labour force, of course" The Finnish MEP desperately resorts to wishful thinking or communism when confronted with the fact of non-working migrants defeating the economic and demographic arguments for migration.

Well, the model is no longer in use, for starters.

I support this system, unfortunately, I'm American.

Haha.These MEPs have strong opinions on almost everything. Fortunately the EP is a discussion club that makes some noice and not much else. Let us all be thankful for that.

Ideology, in Sweden there is now about 800000 unemployable living off the dole. Rampant violence and crime, the penal system needs to be be tripled. Pensions are already pitiful. The outlook is f ar from good.

The Swedish (Nordic model) is in danger, the stat have lost to mutch in tax income, from 1990 to this day the state hve 500 billion skr every year less now, there is no chance to keep the kvalite of healthcare school and so on

Capitalism has ruined it all, like the wealth gap is huge. Some never earn enough to buy a house and others have 3 houses plus owns shares of the expensive houses that the poor have to rent because they have no chance to save enough to ever start buying their own. Like when my parents built a house it costed 50k euros and the same house would be around 300-500k euros, wages are not even 2 times higher now(some jobs is even paid lower now) except for the upper end, their wages has gone up a lot. Then back when it was 50k you went to a workplace and got a job for life when now you are happy to get a 2 year contract but most are temporary or short ones you have to renew all the time never knowing how long you will have it in total. Like an apartment that was 12k euros when we had marks sold for 85k euros later(15k was used to renovate) so people searching for a first "nest" have to compete with shareholder companies that buy up all the good deals renting them out for insane sums now that its not bound anymore. Like I earned 10k marks per month as a young but I don't earn 10k euros now per month so why have the homes gone from marks to euros without changing the number? They complain that we need more children but how can they think there will come children when 2 people don't even know if they will have a job in the same city in one year and how can you build your "nest" when you don't know if you will have a job in that town in a year. This inflated price market for homes and the uncertainty you constantly live in, does not increase the will in people to have a family. Lets say we can't do anything about the prices or the wages, but we can bring back the mentality of "employing someone for life" so then even a family with total income of 3000-4000 per month can start planning(yes we do have lots of jobs paying less than 2k per month and you need to pay taxes because the flood of cheap labor from EU really messed up the wages while the higher wages kept rising). Then because the housing market went berserk the rents were let loose so now the rents go crazy so 2 people earning a total of 3000-4000 has a 1000 euro rent also eating into their planning and apartments ain't cheap to own even. Like there is no "safety" in our country anymore and workers are used like "toilet paper" and they dare to say that we need migrants to make up for it that even makes the situation worse because they agree to "unsafe" environment because its better than what they came from.(letting the rents lose also messed with a lot of small shops because they couldn't afford the new insane rents so now we have the big chains only, the small shops were part of the soul of the owner meeting the one buying the things. Yes online shopping also did its part but low rents might have kept the small shops alive and the soul of many towns). Like our grandparents fought together to defend and build this country but now people that inherit that land put up private signs for huge areas, blocks the access for people to go there, yes we do have freedom of this and that but when the owner comes out shouting that he will start shooting then its kinda not free to forage anymore, its like there are only selfish and greedy people left them thinking they deserve more than everyone else, its like the soul of the country is gone and replaced by greed. The capitalistic thinking of a worker being a cost for the company didn't help either when they were seen as the ones producing before... We need to go back to what we used to be and throw the shareholders out, like you do not need to sck every penny out of the population. Instead we need to get the security back and the rules so that people can afford to own a home again. Owning a home, living in one place and having a stable income for life shouldn't be a luxury it should be the normal(yes some restless souls do love jumping from job to job, from town to town but I think most just want to settle). Like when they came with the 2 hour work trip, that's 4 hours from your day so a total of 12 hours per day for work(plus getting ready for work) and you should have time to have a family and be able to build a future around a life like that... We need to put some chains on capitalism 10 years ago or we can wave goodbye to our welfare state... I wonder when the first woman only gets 1 week leave when giving birth... When will the first person starve or freeze to death because our wealthy wants more and more and more. Wasn't the kings and queens stage over so why are we going back to the system of the few having all the wealth and power?

Why put on a far right MEP from Sweden who wants Sweden to leave the EU? She is not going to get reelected.

I find it kind of sus that an anti-immigration politician is seen preaching in what seemed to be a minority area...

The Nordic model serves mainly asylum shoppers.

and people from the nordics go to Estonia to start companies. Love thier solution is to replace their own culture and population.

Celebrating diversity has it's costs!

No problems in Norway. Constant progress.

No, LoL, Sweden is destroyed

With all the immigrants who heavily depend on welfare and pay little in tax, it drains the social safety net, so each person either gets less or you increases taxes in countries with the highest tax rates in the world.

What happen is Denmark was really overwelcoming with immigrants and now they made a 180 u turn the situation in Finland is different i guess and in other EU countrys!

The modell itself works but for example Sweden rightwing has cut taxes with for the rich and big companies so 1/3 of the budget is gone and then they cut the social systems and act supprised when you get people who become poor and have increased crime after they cut police and customs a lot last time they were in power and there has been right-wing budgets apart from 1, 2026 it will be 20 years of right wing budgets. This is why i'm a former conservative the way they have undermined social justice and the society as a whole

My neighbour has 9 kids, you can't give him work that will pay more than benifits I'm afraid, you're a rich country and your women are happier working and being successful than being mother's so let the migrants do the breeding and you can have 2 holidays a year

"We need migrants to uphold our workforce" is just another way of saying "we need cheap labourers to pay for our pensioners" The problem is twofold. One is the current model of eternal growth to make the system work. We are facing the consequences of overpopulation already, and a population in eternal growth is not sustainable. The more people we import today will lead to greater problems in the future, with an even larger pension burden to mitigate. Better to rip of the band-aid now than to make the problem much larger for the future. It's also catastrophic when it comes to the environment, by importing people from low carbon footprint countries into the highest consuming countries. The other problem is that we import low quality labourers. Uneducated, unhealthy and not easy to integrate into a western society. They are more likely to be a burden on our welfare system than an asset.

Oh yes, Charlie Weimer. I do remember you when he misled the public by stating a half truth about the voting process in the European parliament and in thus lying about the other party being liars (they did exactly what they claimed, but people don’t understand the voting process in the EU parliament and thus believed his inflammatory lies). Two representatives from Sweden that doesn’t understand the concept of the idea of good… Nevertheless, our country (Sweden) has obviously not been culturally enriched by the immigration. We should acknowledge this without making connections to our dark past of “racial cleanliness” (the issue is not racial but about cultures not being able to align naturally: they only lead to friction). Otherwise people like these will take advantage; and the results won’t be of goodness.

It works very well for anyone not from the Nordics....

If you ask a Swedish Fascist about the situation, you are going to get a certain kind of answer.