Eurorack Sync & Reset Issues

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Chris Meyer: Learning Modular + Alias Zone

Chris Meyer: Learning Modular + Alias Zone

5 жыл бұрын

Different clocked modules interpret their "reset" input in two different ways. Of course, my main two pattern generators (Grids and Euclidean Circles, both being driven by Pamela's New Workout) each used a different method, so I had to find a way to resolve them. Here's what did and didn't work, and why.
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@syntholabo
@syntholabo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this There is a lack of reset philosophy and execution discussion in the world. I love playing with multed / divided / odd reset messages, but it’s a heartbreak
@PaulJBurns
@PaulJBurns 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. I moved on from Grids some years ago. It was fun though. Gave it to a friend. As an aside it was my second Grids, the first (Mk1, later versions do not have the problem) blew up after a voltage spike ( long story). I had been in contact with Olivier of Mutable Instruments since before he even considered Eurorack, and without hesitation another Grids was couriered to me overnight, free of charge. I cannot say enough what a really nice guy Olivier is over and above his incredible talents.
@NimrodScott
@NimrodScott 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video describing the issue and ways to work around it. Thanks for educating me on some of the details around clocking various modules.
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 3 жыл бұрын
Chris I re bought Euclidean Circles and sure enough had the same problem and FOUND YOUR VIDEO AGAIN. Thanks very much for your dedication to your craft, and sharing your knowledge so broadly.
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 5 жыл бұрын
OHHHH it is in the same menu level as the multipliers and dividers. I never realised what that was for! THANK YOU!!!
@DeathTrapProductions
@DeathTrapProductions 3 жыл бұрын
YOUR VIDEOS HAVE SAVED ME ENDLESS HOURS OF FRUSTRATION! If we ever meet in person I owe you a drink or two haha.
@sssilverman
@sssilverman 4 жыл бұрын
Mylar melodies brought me here. Great advice, thanks
@ryanblais5799
@ryanblais5799 2 жыл бұрын
So many hours chasing this problem with these modules, and the Tsyklon Chaos Divider and Tip Top Trigger Riot. You helped clear up many of the questions I had. Thanks Chris. As usual, trial and error can eventually solve my issue, but understanding really speeds things up.
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 2 жыл бұрын
Can I quote you on that last bit? It's a point I try to get across...
@strawmanhat
@strawmanhat Жыл бұрын
@@LearningModular absolutely. I would be honored. Have a peek at my jam channel if you are inclined. I'm less experienced than you, but I'm learning fast :) Search for Strawman Hat. Thanks for all your time and lessons. I really love your live setup with the strings and springs. Cheers from Toronto.
@nectariosm
@nectariosm 5 жыл бұрын
I admire your patience and dedication. Very useful video, but man...what a nightmare...
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 5 жыл бұрын
It was a bit of hell for a couple of weeks...but finally have it sorted.
@Natemasterflex
@Natemasterflex 3 жыл бұрын
I think almost everybody must deal with this at one time or another. 😸
@omnidivergence9846
@omnidivergence9846 Жыл бұрын
This was a huge help syncing the tiptop z8000 and the ASQ-1. It solved the problem. Thank you.
@LearningModular
@LearningModular Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad to hear that. I always figure if something is tripping me up, it may be tripping up others as well - so I should share what I learned.
@nb-oj5xu
@nb-oj5xu 5 жыл бұрын
thanks! I was having the same issue between PNW and Grids. Fantastic Video
@TheEntireRobot
@TheEntireRobot 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I've been having the exact same problem, with the exact same modules. I can't wait to try this out!
@chaotician23
@chaotician23 5 жыл бұрын
That was genuinely interesting and useful, cheers!
@easymac24
@easymac24 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really glad you touched on this topic. I've been having this exact problem using Pam's to reset multiple sequencers lately. Didn't expect anyone to address this. Thanks for it. Anymore info on this or similar clocking issue would be awesome.
@MartinDoudoroffLLC
@MartinDoudoroffLLC 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial!
@TerekkiTerekki
@TerekkiTerekki 4 жыл бұрын
You have saved a lot of people a lot of pain
@Psionetics
@Psionetics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was very helpful!
@zebmars8944
@zebmars8944 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@brokenscart7989
@brokenscart7989 7 ай бұрын
Helpful video, thanks
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@joantorruella4891
@joantorruella4891 5 жыл бұрын
1000th viewer here 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 so cool to see the view count at 999
@Puto73
@Puto73 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. I tried it on my Euclidean and also the Rossum assimilator. The reset idea worked a treat however Chris, why is that when a start signal occurs it takes about a bar length before it syncs up. Is there a way to sync on start every time. In saying that I must say this has opened up so many new sonic possibilities. Absolutely fantastic. If you could just help me understand why it takes a bar length to sync up. I almost feel like PAM’s would need to start it’s reset when started rather than a bar later..not to sure on this.
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of devices have an internal clock, often running at a different (often higher) resolution compared to the external clock. It takes them a few ticks of the external clock to measure its timing and synchronize its internal clock to it. Think of it as two pulleys connected with a soft rubber band. When one suddenly starts spinning, the rubber band stretches initially while the second pulley gets up to speed; there is also some stretch & slack wobble until the two agree on the speed. (Technically, the mechanism inside most of these modules is a "phase locked loop." The more smoothing they have to iron out jitter in the incoming clock, the longer it takes them to respond to speed changes.)
@liquidacoustics8329
@liquidacoustics8329 5 жыл бұрын
Really useful video mate .... Love the Patch & Tweak Blank panel. Is that a buffered multiple you're using to split the clock signals or just a passive multiple ?? Noob Question I know I'm sorry :-(
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 5 жыл бұрын
The P&T blank is holding a space for a yet-unreleased module... ;-) I'm using a passive mult for the clock splitting. Buffered mults are only needed for pitch, or in some cases if you're splitting a LOT of clock signals (like, 1 into 6).
@liquidacoustics8329
@liquidacoustics8329 5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, that makes sense. I might have to invest in a buffered mult anyway. Unreleased module ...... sounds exciting !! Thanks so much for your prompt reply. Enjoy the Holidays.
@wishbonebrewery
@wishbonebrewery 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I just needed a simple Reset and the Manual for Pams wasn't helping me.
@riotghandi
@riotghandi 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, i can not find the inverted square wave to reset an external sequencer. can you be so kind and explain me the way through the menus to adjust this? thx a lot
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need an inverted square wave; just a normal positive-going gate or trigger or other pulse. It so happens that Pamela also has the option for a signal that stays high while running, which I've used; if I remember correctly, it's an alternate selection for a time division - not the waveshape selection you would expect. Click the encoder to modify the time multiplier/divider, and it's one of the options beyond the numbers. Look in the manual on page 7 where it talks about "utility" modifiers.
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 5 жыл бұрын
What is the STEP UP option in PNW? Can not see the screen clearly but my PNW doesnt seem to have it... What am I missing here? Same issue with Euclidean Circles. Frustrating!
@evthomet9484
@evthomet9484 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Turner mine doesn’t either. Did you find out why?
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 3 жыл бұрын
Ev Thomet see my other comment here you go - OHHHH it is in the same menu level as the multipliers and dividers. I never realised what that was for! THANK YOU!!!
@MassimoVignelli212
@MassimoVignelli212 3 жыл бұрын
FUUUUUUCKKKKK THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SOOOOOO MUCHHHHHHHH
@viDUBla
@viDUBla Жыл бұрын
I understand the OR chooses one or the other inputs but with only the clock in input A what is it doing to slow it down so slightly
@LearningModular
@LearningModular Жыл бұрын
OR gates that use diodes - like the Intellijel - work almost instantly. But others - like the 2hp - that reads the inputs with a microprocessor, does math in code, and then writes the gate output back to hardware have a slight processing delay.
@AshBashVids
@AshBashVids 5 жыл бұрын
Such modules aren't really designed to be used with a dynamic clock, *unless* that clock change is in sync (eg. 4/4 for 3 bars, then 8/4 for 1 bar so it will sync up). Unfortunately this isn't really possible without CV controlling the clock source itself or having a clock source that won't change it's speed until the next bar. Modules like Grids don't blindly follow the clock (like PNW when slaved), so that makes it trickier still. Generally I just avoid messing around with the master clock source on the fly and opt for modules which have such functionality built in. Eurorack doesn't have the luxury of MIDI clock with it's SPP when it comes to most modules.
@Hirsbrochannel
@Hirsbrochannel 5 жыл бұрын
Mister Shledge yeah I would use a rcd or qcd if I wanted to mess/change the tempo/ division for individual modules much less headache
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 4ms QCD over in my big case. In this case, the programmability of Pamela allows me to decide what divisions to run Euclidean Circles, the Echophon, and the arpeggiator at and change it from number to number. I'm also enjoying the synchronized modulation on the spare channels.
@sonicultura
@sonicultura 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a gate that is my master if I use that to Pamel would it also solve my problem you think? Thanks for a great tip!
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 4 жыл бұрын
I need a few more details. Gate is your master reset, or clock? And what is the problem you're having?
@MarkoDeLaVoota
@MarkoDeLaVoota 5 жыл бұрын
cool , new vid , I am eyeballing PNW ,
@martinharbus7361
@martinharbus7361 5 жыл бұрын
I'm having problems with external clock into Grids...I notice the LED on your output 2 on Pam...seems to be static? so have you it set to a specific set of parameters?
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 5 жыл бұрын
I run Grids at its highest clocking resolution, which is 24 ppqn. Therefore, I have Pam set to the same speed (x24). This means the LED blinks so fast that it appears to be on constantly. The other two secrets are turning the clock knob on Grids all the CCW so it takes external clock, and to patch up a reset signal.
@martinharbus7361
@martinharbus7361 5 жыл бұрын
Hi...thanks very much for the reply.@@LearningModular
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris you mentioned a second video - where is that? I have looked!
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't remember. Can you point me to where I said that, for context, to jog my memory?
@steveturner1815
@steveturner1815 3 жыл бұрын
@@LearningModular hahah right at the end, something about an ARPEGGIATOR.
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveturner1815 the lost video! I was talking about an earlier firmware version of the TiNRS Tuesday: It was 1.5 clock ticks ahead during the first measure, and 0.5 clock ticks behind from the first “reset” onward. I had to invert its gate out to get it back in sync. I am told that has been fixed in the current firmware.
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the STEP UP option?
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 5 жыл бұрын
It's one of the clock division/clock multiplication options. Just keep scrolling through until you get to the symbols for Step Up and Step Down (little icons showing the gate's shape), as well as On and Off. Many make the mistake of looking for them one level down in the Extended Per Trigger Adjustment menu (long press on the encoder), but that's not where they live - they're up on the default level along with /2 etc.
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror 5 жыл бұрын
Got it. Thanks for your help.
@walrtbstudios5430
@walrtbstudios5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@LearningModular Thank you. That’s been driving me up the wall for DAYS…
@jedgould5531
@jedgould5531 4 жыл бұрын
Please slow and clarify your pronunciation. I love what you have to say, but trouble understanding you.
@LearningModular
@LearningModular 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...I talk too fast when I get excited. That's why I'm hoping to add closed captions to my online courses later this year.
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