What come from light go to light or darkness ,but sadly most go to darkness, sin is darkness and Jesus is the light

Mmm they give you 3 lines instead of 2 this time around

@@Alticrooand we better get the final line. “Witness this” -our guardian moments before slicing the witness in two

I just wish we spoke as much as witch queen. I understand bungie wants to make the guardian a "man of few words," but I would have loved to see our guardian interact during these emotional scenes

Brother Vance: I like listening to Osiris rant for 20 minutes

@@heroicxidiot Best reply haha

Followed closely by the dreaded Architects

Ghost: "Guardian down!" Cayde: "Good, you're here" 🤣

Sending blessings to you and your family

Great explanation!

Perfect explanation

Great TL:DR

So basically infinite tsukiyomi from Naruto the witness basically wants to carry out the infinite tsukiyomi from Naruto

Very good explanation. The fact that the only way we can kill the witness is because the witness is conflicted in Itself. I see during the raid you remember “usal tactics won’t work here” what if hear me out we damage the witness by breaking statues. Not a traditional dps phase. So for example we do mechanics to spawn sword/swords and to give us access to embrace the darkness. We all go in and break as many statues before the witness can drag us out. Or there’s a timer and if we stay inside we die so we need to escape before it kills us. If we break enough final stand will play out normally and we must use our weapons to finish it off.

its not nathen

@@aceovrzero361 Yes it is lol, Bungie officially announced it and Nathan himself posted on social media talking about being back.

@@aceovrzero361 it is lmao. you can clearly hear the diff between Fillion and North. North as Cayde-6 during forsaken sounds more like Smokescreen from Transformers Prime while Fillion sounds like how he is in Castle / The rookie

​@@aceovrzero361 Yeah but it is *Nathan.*

@@aceovrzero361 it is

Yeah, noticed that too. They wouldn't have highlighted it was missing, and specifically kept it out when "Sundance" spoke, if it wasn't important.

Because the resurrection of Guardians after they die goes against everything the The Final Shape's dogma preaches. It's all about only the strong survive, and death proves you weren't a strong enough shape, so to bring your shape back is to subvert the logic of The Final Shape, the perfect form that deserves to exist through sheer force, will, whatever measure necessary to cut its will into existence, thus proving its right to exist above all else. If your shape died, it wasn't perfect, to resubmit it to existence is a direct afront to The Witness who is trying to finish the game and induct all into The Final Shape he sees fit, because he has proclaimed himself and his race the knife with with which to carve perfect existence. Typical God complex shit! This is also why Nockris was exiled by The Hive, for he was taught Necromancy by Xol, and Necromancy (Yes, the Traveler is a necromancer too!), or the act of resubmitting a faulty shape to the game; is sacrilegious subversion of the entire dogma. The fact The Witness spends a lot of time trying to subvert Guardians into his cause is what's really odd, because it would be much of the same situation, he would now owe a large chunk of his powerbase to a collective who's dogma and existence itself is an afront to his whole.... thing, just by existing. There's no universe where any Guardians fit into The Final Shape as anything other than victims of its endless embrace. Also, through the Traveler defying this logic outright, and literally subverting the permanence of death, I feel, proves itself a more perfect shape than The Witness's, because even through death itself, the Traveler's creations can rise again, they resist all natural forces of the Universe, paracausal. This clearly in any sort of logical sense, makes the Guardian, objectively speaking a more perfect shape, in the Final Shape's own logic. The Guardian stands as The Final Shape currently. Until something subverts it somehow, and well, good luck, space magic yo.

Probably because she said “I am what you wanted me to be” and cayde has only really wanted one thing since being revived by Riven and that’s sundance

Yes absolutely

Their bodies are exotic.

I would have loved to see Ikora with invective

Or helmets

I always just assumed that they have their own personal exotics that we haven't ever gotten, like whatever allows zavala to just hold a Titan bubble indefinitely but as a trade-off he couldn't move.

1​@@mocha9072thats just cononical non gameplay guardians

It didn’t even cut that arm off. It clearly wounded it but it didn’t sever it.

@adamboy0559 still though! Mah Boi crow got some moves with that axe that mistook him for a titan. Just for a second 😆 🤣

Golden Gun, like the man he killed, then followed up the axe like the man who saved his life.

Crow hinting at the rumour of getting rid of classes in D3

Hint at new Hunter Super?

They've always been great at making stuff look beautiful. It's the writing and characters they suffer on, massively. It's the equivalent of playing halo but never finding out what halo is. We've been talking about the veil and the traveler for 10 years now.

I hope you're kidding

I disagree

​@@cameronjones9701no hate, just curious who do you think would have done better?

Couldn't have made a better choice on Bungie's part. We all miss Lance but at the end of the day, Keith David is the best option to continue Zavala's story.

He’s great it just sucks as everytime I hear him I think about it not being Lance and it seems off i probably just need time to adjust

So it multiple species

I said the same thing, my friends told me to shut up 😂

He's also the arbiter in halo

Indeed! He's also Dr. Facilier in the Princess and the Frog, as well as Husk in Hazbin Hotel

Keith David, absolute legend. He voiced Spawn in the animated series too and did an amazing job

Goliath from Gargoyles and Admiral Anderson from Mass Effect. Julius from saints row too.

Keith is doing an amazing job, just can’t get Lance out of my head after listening to him for years, still love the operation piccolo dialogue

Best fucking quote

I'm dissowning ghost for that one.

Nah, his hair cut is gay af.

makes sense tbh

Bro you couldnt have watched the video

Yes I have and watched a 9 hour and steam on this too

Have you watched tearofgrace

I'm not sure

Those Guardians weren't god killers mastering light and dark.

They were weakened. Also the Witness is not in their turf but in the Traveler.

The traveler is literally protecting us, we could never win a confrontation outside of the traveler

Yuppp. More "epic storytelling" from Bungie 🙄

It's the fact that we did any damage to a god is what they are mostly talking about. It's technically wounded, hurt, damaged. Which is surprising for anyone.

@@dropkick3024yeah we now know how to kill it. Before we had nothing but hope. Now we actually know how to hurt a god. With this knowledge I see us using the swords again in the raid and we have to go back in and break the remaining statues but this time it will be harder to reach. It makes sense since a dev said “traditional strategies won’t work here” the for final stand it will try enact the final shape and we need to do normal dps to finish it. If we fail we see our guardian being finalised

Also wondering how we got into the pale heart to begin with. It’s implied Mara *somehow* held it open for us but how did she do that? Why can she do that? If im misunderstanding and Mara didn’t hold it open, how did we get in without ending up like everyone else who tried?

@@Brian-wp9erfrom what I gathered, due to Mara and crow having a paracausal bond and crow being in the pale hart/traveller Mara is able to establish a “road” between the siblings that allows us to travel.

​@fatalcircuit007 Since Mara's on the outside, she gets to decide when the portal is open. Crow is inside of the Traveler. There are no signals there for Crow to control what's happening. And I guess it could be her powers that are why she can control it. Since the Witness was able to force her to close it again.

@@fatalcircuit007 Destiny was a much better game before they started throwing the word paracausal around to vaguely explain things they aren’t creative enough to explain. I guess that makes sense though. The fact that that isn’t explained outright in the beginning is crazy though.

@@Brian-wp9er I feel that. To me it makes sense but could be an ass pull for sure. If I remember right it was explained when crow made the last wish leading up to this season

He's going to empower Zavala in the final fight mark my words

​@@Grayves_Xandddddd you were wrong

@@Rinickulous1106 I was

You didn’t have to write this one. Everyone missed him, but the game have to continue…

Honestly? When I first played Destiny I thought Zavala was already voiced by Keith. Miss Lance but like Ikora's recasting I doubt I could pick the new lines out from the old.

Keith David did a great job. Character still gotta go on

RIP to lance, such a cool dude. However I don’t think they could have found a better ‘replacement’. Keith is an absolute legend and I think he smashed it.

I'm always thinking yes Mr president

Since seasons get vaulted you've missed a lot of story between the expansions. The best way to town get the whole story now is to watch My Name Is Byf's 10 hour story of everything up until now

@@Grayves_X on hour 9 🤣🤣🤣

I'm glad someone else thought of that I was like yeah this is basically infinite Tsukuyomi on me from Naruto they ripped off Naruto

@@wolfbane7497 guess time to refer to the witness as Madara, and wait for the nine be controlling him.

@@toneshyner yeah

Yes. They are dissenters from his race that didn't believe in the vision

I was thinking the exact same thing abt clapper😂

Well destiny 2 wont tell you that give you a bs reason. D1's gave you lots of hints that made you think and pieced it all together. Great read. Some say it a great machine, some say it is the last remnant from it race like the last blue whale on earth (or...dr who) being chased by the great hunt. Some view it as a gardener in their dreams. Etc etc. It really beutiful. D2 is like: its a big ball stuuuuuuupid. And at the same time :🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️