Here's the poll!: strawpoll.com/6gs9wqqaw

It's definitely the Draven role. There's just no need to dispute about it. Draven is the best role in the league of Draven.

I like how you said "single target burst damage" while the footage is Qiyana one shotting 4 people

This list would be much different if the classes worked as they're supposed to. I'm cool with Akali oneshoting me. I'm not cool with Akali oneshotting me while tanking half of my team. I'm cool with Malph taking 0 dmg. I'm not cool with Malph taking 0 dmg while oneshotting half of my team with his combo.

3:39 "abysmal mobility" Shows darius running at 300km/h towards the jinx

Specialists are really satisfactory to play once you get their playstyle and throw their full potential.

I think that under the Tank category: Vanguards are significantly more fun than Wardens because of how proactive their gameplay is. Nothing feels better than diving in on Zac and starting up the bounce house.

Enchanters and it isnt even close. (In terms of strength not design) Remember how janna top had like a 70% wr for those who knew how to pilot her? Remember how soraka, sona, lulu, karma, etc… All became super op in mid and top while also being played support and had to get hotfixed nerfed? No other class comes close to the level of balance nerfs and meta warping compared to enchanters.

12:15 vars: slayers feature champions with single target burst Also vars: Showing a clip of Qiyana bursting down the entire enemy team

I feel like in a vacuum, marksmen used to be the best designed. Problem is they are based on an old PvE RPG system that says "high dmg = squishy," which is fine and dandy if you got a tanky tank taking aggro from an AI, but this is PvP.

Ornn class can be anything you want to be. Mage? Sure. Tank? Sure. Assassin? Sure. Fighter? Sure. Ranger? Sure. Monk? Absolutely. Priest? Definitely. Thief? Yes. Sage? No problem. Bard? Isn't that another champion? Ornn is very flexible!

I'd like to add that Slayers also sit at a huge D when it comes to playing with them. You either give them all the kills and they carry, or you agree to playing a 4v5.

Oh come on yall it is 100% the yuumi role what beats being able to binge watch your favorite shows and movies while laughing at your malding adc.

3:01 Fighters 4:54 Mages 7:04 Marksmen 8:49 Tanks 10:28 Controllers (supports) 12:06 slayers 13:34 specialists This is mainly for if i feel like coming back to this video but enjoy!

the best class is the friends you made along the way

tier list OP classes 1-Slayers 2- Fighters that play like an slayer 3- other classes

10:18 "The only ones who may enjoy going against tanks are tank busters" Also the tank busters having literally two tanks among them xD

Forgot to include how Marksmen go into other roles sometimes and ***everyone*** hates playing against them

as a former ADC main, i really appreciate your satirical rant lol i miss being an ADC but i just have NOT been able to justify playing such a trash role since like s6 or 7.

I'd kill for a hashinshin rant of this video xd

I find the play against ratings of mages and tanks odd. I personally prefer playing against Mages or Tanks more than playing against Fighters. I think Mages and Tanks are only really scary or feel unfair, because they slow the game down by their controlling abilities, which I don't think is as objectively bad as Slayers 1v9ing and can also be a good thing, because they tend to give games more structure by being more defensive in nature through CC and ranged waveclear.

I hope one day you will do a comprehensive report on the effect of ping on the performance of players. Like what latency challenger players have ? What Silver players have on average? What rank a player have in relation to the distance from the server he plays on? Things like that requires polls to be made to get a good statistical results.

I've been waiting for this video since I've seen your other videos, nice video!

Totally hit this one on the head. Recently champions begin to feel as of they are designed to be multiple classes at once or entirely subvert the strength and weaknesses of their supposed class. Like Qiyana can be a diver, fighter, engage, burst, dps, zoner all at once. Yuumi is an untargetable healer that breaks the basic rule of gaming where you "target the healer." Gwen was also a tank buster, burst, dps, diver, yadda yadda so on and so forth. If a champion can kind of do everything, then when do they ever have a moment of vulnerability?

The problem isnt marksman itself its champs without counterplay. Lets for example take zed: He ws his shadow somewhere doesnt really matter where presses ult from ridicoulously far away then q on the spot so that all 3 shurikans will hit regardless, maybe e if he feels like it too then instanly press r or w again and youre out. Literally no counterplay... The worst part is when those zed mains then act like they just "outplayed" or hell even just played well for doing one of the easiest things in the game. Same goes for champs like Kha Zix, Qyiana, rengar, eveylnn, Ad shaco etc. If you get in range to even autoattack you immedieatly get oneshot without any counterplay. Worst are those that get untargetable and invisible so that even standing next to your teammates doesnt have any effect. Honestly if theyd stop releasing champs that can carry but dont need any form of skill to do so adc would probably be the best role.

Much appreciated the representation of the ad carry experience here.

Your description of an ADC main's life is probably the most accurate one I've ever heard

Always great content. To think this is a mixing of all your other classes and subclass video is a good assessment. It's the perfect format to summarize, and I don't think you need to rehash the details, if anyone ask, just refer them to those videos for more detail.

2:20 The issue is that in current league tanks beat marksman, unless the latter is full build and gets peel, or is fairly good, something that you even menting later with the Rammus example, he's not the only one though.

New Slayers are dumbest addition to the game. Like seriously - Who thought that Gwen, Viego, Yone and Qiyana is good idea ? They have little counterplay ,with tons of tools to kill you.

i havent even gotten to the rankings yet but this 3d sideview gameplay is so cool to watch

as a tank main, when you were describing why theyre not fun to play against i was thinking "hehe, yeah. i do all those things"

I really appreciate your willingness to learn and grow when developing your videos and their ideas. Along with you determination to carve out your own niche rather than copying others, it helps your channel become very interesting and enjoyable! I disagree with a lot of your opinions, but they’re all opinions, and they’re based on perspective, and that’s how they should be! King 👑

Tanks are D tier to play literally any champ that has lethal temp, blade of the ruined king and rageblade can beat you in a 1v1 ATM (not quit anyone people with low attack speeds like Rell can't). the amount of times someone has built 1 of the 15+ anti tank items and i go from it takes 5 seconds to kill me to 1. like 4 item Rammus and I go from winning against an Akshan to he adds an LDR to his build and I start to loose hard. Stuff like that is what makes me wonder why i main tank and then i get tower dove by some idiots and 1v4 them. Yeah basically when everyone gets 5 items you start to insta die and you start to be out tanked by skirmishers and basically just anyone with healing in their kit or building healing items. There is times where I am Rammus or Malphite into 4 ad champs and I am basically unkillable besides like yi, trundle and vayne cause they delete you even with 1k armour and i get to actually be an unkillable unit for a bit like I might last 5 seconds with all 5 of them attacking me and then I will die which feels amazing when that 1 in 300 games happens but it good. also just top is 90% non tanks cause if you go a tank you just get out everything's by the other classes in lane as the team fight champ stuck in the island lane against all the champs that are meant to win 1v1's. Bar like Sion cause he is basically a juggernaut with how he build 3 damage items and starts to 1 shot combo you with a prowlers. Also as they keep adding characters like Sett to the game where you either build hp so his w does less of total of you hp bar but then his r does 60% of your max plus 120% bonus ad it feels like they just don't want tanks to work in the game. (also 7 out of the last 10 champs have max or current hp damage in their kit which doesn't include Sett) So rant I guess about why tanks feel trash to play at at least in high silver low gold cause that's where my norms games are about in rank based on the people I verse and stuff. I think tanks are better the higher you go cause they are the team focused role but in casual they just get out classed by other classes as their job. Also I do kinda hate a few adc's cause you just can't do anything against them if you have no mobility in your kit or Vayne but mostly they are fine just not fun to get 1 shot combo'ed by a 3 item Caitlyn as a tank.

fighters: catches you with raw power instead of surprise

"finding hay in a needle stack" dunno if this was intentional or not but i love it

I couldn't help but laugh when you referred to the specialists' tactics as "degenerate" Nice video!!

“I’ve seen adcs souls leave their body when the enemy locks in Rammus” OK

Wait is Lillia actually a slayer? Isn't she a wierd poke mage? Now that I write it about it makes more sanse.. But is.. Wierd..

7:42 that was such a hilarious bit xd love it

I really wish vars would start putting the music used in the description

I'll admit, I usually watch Vars for the intelligent commentary, even if I disagree with half of what usually goes on in the video. But this time, I feel like I'm on board pretty much 100%. Good call on splitting the satisfaction of playing as or against. Characters with independent agency and high carry potential are usually fun to play as, but no one likes fighting against Duskblade Yi.

I mean i might have a bias as a fiddle main but specialists might be the best class cuz they are so random and the more u learn them the more u can exploit their strenghts so high skill ceeling, not too broken

As a weird champ enjoyer (and fellow Aurelion Sol main), I had to try Azir and it was a blast. Did I have any idea of what I was doing ? No. Did I tried to insec ppl with W->E->Q->R ? Yes, and managed to. Azir is so different from your typical mage "I press buttons lots of damage kaboom" and yeah, it didn't felt like I was playing a mage, I was playing Azir, replacing the enemy's towers with mines as I was advancing in my lane. I felt like the Emperor of Shurima, defending my kingdom, my lane against this stupid ass Akshan who didn't understand what "my tower now" meant (He almost killed himself running under what used to be his T1). I may be a bit too roleplay, but Azir just feels good to play, just like when I tried Aurelion Sol. With these champs I'm not playing a class, I'm playing a character. Specialist is the best class for me, BY FAR.

Its time for the perfectly designed: galio vid. The only AP bruiser that actually works.

wait if Traskshan get every passive we just need to make a champ with every role giga brain

I like how you rated how they were to play and play against

I think you might have done well to emphasize just how subjective this list is--I personally feel oddly uncomfortable on assassins but don't mind marksmen, for instance--but I do feel you've captured the general sentiments of the League community, and accurately articulated the reasons.

Depends on what you define as the "best" class

I love playing mages and they feel great to play. I mostly play Artillerists and Burst mages. So they are very rewarding and I would give them that score. They often times cap off tbh, though. IDK about giving them a D to fight against, cuz it's hardly every the fed Orianna, or the fed Xerath I hafta worry about when I'm playing ADC or supporting them. Cuz the counterplay to mages is dodge and then lockdown. And the lockdown doesn't even need to be long before they get picked, especially if you have a Vanguard and an assassin. Of course that's the nature of playing, mage, but realistically, dodging the spells and knowing how they work seems to be something most people learn how to do fairly well after they hit level 30. That's just my thoughts.

I think the juggernaut class is the best base because it allows for the greatest build diversity with either defensive and or offensive itemization depending on matchups and is clear cut in what champions are able and not able to do with flat-ish numbers. unlike %hp, healing, crit, excessive mobility or skillshot reliance etc.

Best class for climbing is the tank role, especially non support tanks. I do agree that they aren't always the most fun, but if you like consistent, methodical wins, there's almost nothing better.

I believe in minion supremacy

Imediatley cross out marksman gg ff feeding bot 😂

I think support has the best balance, they can do so much and pressure around the map really well however they also have to play it smart and do there job well to have any inpact. This means that when you see a good support its not as frustrating like a assassin.

thank U! it's hard for me to focus and totally understand about this role.

Big fan of Juggernauts since they dont have dashes

Obviously Slayers are the best class since Skirmishers can do everything every other class can do and often times they do it better. Jack of all trade master of everything. I'm surprised you only ranked them as A and D. S and F would have been better scores...

just from personal experience i think the ranking in how enjoyable roles are depends on whether the player is new to mobas/lol, i've never played mobas until league and marksmen and kiting champions like lillia are the most comfortable and enjoyable since i either don't have to be in the enemies faces or i can hit and back away just as fast.

I play only tanks. i like the fact that i can orchestrate the all team fight & play for my team. i feel it satisfying. And a lot of tank can just burst/ repeatidly short trade you to death if you are ahead.

what subclass are lillia and gwen? they are both fighters but i’m not sure where they would fall under the spectrum

I picked controllers. But i do wish there was an enchanter with a super high skill celling. Maybe with like one easy ability for supporting, and the rest of their kit; whether its damage, cc, utility or some combination, is extremely skill expressive. I know there are a few like that, but i mean like a 3 out of 3 for difficulty, instead of a 2 or less out of 3 like all enchanters

What class do control mages fall into, looking as they weren't listed? (champs like orianna etc)

11:50 Point of correction, Yuumi and Morgana. Morgana has enough range, cc , movement speed and omnivamp to win as a bot. Her ult, the only ability that doesn't work from across the screen, is always accompanied by zhonya's hourglass.

I feel like the subclasses should've been calculated instead of the entire class because going against a diver is a D experience, but going against juggernaut is usually around the B tier, except Nasus and Mundo in which case it's back to D

Sadly, the slayer role is the best because Riot doesn’t know how his game works 🤪

Because of lifesteal and shields, I find myself out tanked by fighters all the time. I main ornn and while going full tank I find myself having similar numbers on self mitigated damage after a match, as for instance yone, hecarim or kayn. Say i end the match with 100k self mitigated damage they can end with 90k and that could be a yone with full crit build.

I love how each class got some highs some lows in terms if description and once you get to specialist it's almost all ribbing on them.

Wait, adc counter tanks ? (RIP adc role)

13:06 but we do often see slayers in pro play. Gwen is played a lot, and so is viego

wondering if youll ever do a video on crowd control and the rise of it. I remember back in season 10 when merc treads was not practically a must buy or taking tenacity in your runes. Nowadays everyone and their mom has cc, or they do so much auto attack damage that you sacrifice being able to move for half the fights to being able to not get shredded by a tryndamere or a yasuo or yone

Personally I think your underestimating how fun tanks are to play, and how fair they are to play against. Their simple, straight forwards, and while they might have a lot of CC, you know if you can play around and dodge it, chances are you can whittle them down.

I love Xin Zhao because he's technically a diver, but has a damage output comparable to a skirmisher and it drives most actual skirmishers, as well as a sizable portion of assasins crazy with his 1 vs 1 dueling potential. :)). And he has a ridiculous amount of CC, as well as insane sticking potential for how much damage he does, which also makes him the bane of marksmen. He's simple and one-dimensional, true, but goddamn is he effective nonetheles... Will you basically always know what he's gonna do? Sure! Does it matter? NOPE!!! Cause most of the time there's nothing you really can do unless you have godlike CC, a team-mate to back you up or are one of the handful of champion that can take him on 1 on 1 (Jax., Tryndamere, Yi) :))

I don't know, I feel differently about the marksmen role. It depends on whether you are playing traditional or non-traditional marksmen. I hate playing a traditional one like Ashe and Jinx, but I love non-traditional like Miss Fortune, Ezreal, etc.

Alternate title: Man comes out as extremely classist (some game was in there for some reason as well)

Hey Vars, could u make a video on champs that have companions like Ivern, Yorick, Malzahar, etc. I would love to see your thoughts on them.

Enchanters

I genuinely believe that ADC will never feel consistently good to play as long as the deck is stacked against them with how strong inversely the jungler and especially support class has been for several years at this point. Supports should not be constantly dictating wether or not the ADC is allowed to play the game and they certainly shouldn’t be allowed as much agency and forgiveness to playing their role with no downside compared to ADC who are forced to put up with having to play perfectly and still can lose the game if the team around them collapses like a dollar store condom

I just picked up Viego and got my first win on him today. He's so fun. I think I'm hooked on him.

i cant see the poll in the description

Artillery mages are the worst. There's only 3 of them and they're barely even used becuase of their very low mobility and all skillshot kit. They're also kicked out of the midlane cuz Ionians can easily shred them. I main Velkoz and Ziggs and I feel the pain of being an artillery.

I dont agree with mages. Becouse of amount of sustain and tankyness and ASSasins matchups in midlane usually are not ahead enough to outdmg enemy adc sustain. Oh and there are immortal wind brothers. Good luck killing them even with 3 levels ahead and item advantage

The video rated "play" and "play against", but it could also be interesting to rate "play with (as a teammate)". I think this rating would be most relevant in specialists.

4:00 As a Jarvan IV main Yes. I do wish I had *just that bit more* to get the job done all the time

I read the title as "Ovulating" every class in League of Legends.... Even the titles looking submissive and breedable these days

Yes, it'd be ridiculous if tryndamere, straight forward champ with no utility was extremely popular in the current pro play meta. Clueless

Specialist class is the classic "if I don't know what I am doing, neither do you" and that is why it is the best class

What you said about grasp is totaly true. Besides its poke utility it can be considerated kinda boring to some. BUT playing a tank vs tank 1v1 grasping not stop on each other is one of the most satifaying and relaxing way to play league

Tanks are the most fun to play because while the enemy team spent 20 minutes trying to take half of your health bar, your adc finished their sandwich, your midlaner was picking their nose, and your jungler figured out that there was a minimap.

ADC becoming worse and worse mainly not because of something changing with class but everything around them. When they add new drake or buff or item some monster or etc. they make game better for everyone else but the marksman so it becomes harder for you to take em out if they can do more stuff and you cant. Whats more frustrating is that riot knows that and their fix is "release new meta adapted adc" . New adc can do so much more and often have mobility but they still go botlane against old ones so obv they win lanes have higher win rates and get nerfed to the ground in return. Things also don't help that adc became "good" around 30 min if unfed- when game is about to end so you have nothing good to do other than follow the team just to get some safe farming. And on top of that other classes need less items that are cheaper and more efficient. The whole game just hates this class even tho most champs in it are fun and healthy designed.

when he said"how it feels" i cant stop thinking about lazy purple

Can we get a video on knock-ups vs other CCs. Like supression it is not affected by tenacity, but it is MUCH more widespread

Best are fighters for sure. They can survive assassins and kill tanks and adcs are useless vs them

For me the best class is artillery mages. They can do a whole lot while being very vulnerable when jumped on

I like tanks a lot because no ones pick them in my silver ranked games. Also because it just wins teamfights. A lot of solo queue teams forget it because they prefere damage freak carry, but get destroyed in teamfights because theyre me who just sion ult them like crazy, end up they kill me but 2 of them were targeting me and its a 4v3 behind me, which end up being 3 kills for the cost of one

I would argue there are three subclasses that are tied for first place: Divers, Juggernauts, and Skirmishers. This is for one reason and one reason only - agency. Agency is defined by one’s ability to control the outcome of the game, and these three have the most by leaps and bounds. All three can start fights, take objectives quickly, knock down towers, and overall apply the most pressure. The reason why they’re tied is because each one excels where the other lacks, and different scenarios call for different builds. Juggernauts have far superior durability and ability to take up space, but they lack the mobility that their peers have. Divers have the best initiation of the three, while being a jack of all trades in their stat line. Skirmishers have the most damage and stick potential, while also being the squishiest. Regardless, there’s a reason why these three classes reach rank 1 so consistently and this is why.

Fighters. Enyone who say something else is wrong and never played fair champions

Vars: Adc>tank ADC: *getting oneshot by everything that breaths, specially tanks* ok

At twenty minutes I no joke got onshoted by echo roll dash thing as master yi, I was 2 lvls below...

14:01 all things to say im a otp cho and even 3 years playing him i can't say a strat that will kill it 100% of the time "in 1v1 scenario" that's why i love the class even do i play it as a tank i do play the laning more of a bruisher.. for real im really agro on some lanes