10:09 I've met one of these guys before, I didn't know such relative niceness existed in the world. He destroyed my gassing venture in a wormhole when I was still learning how to harvest Gas then payed me 6mil ISK (when I only payed 4mil for the ship and fit) and taught me how to avoid getting caught in a wormhole. Best and worst day in eve.

"They live to drink your tears"

Fly safe...failing that, fly it like you stole it

About the aggressive fight hunters: They are nice. Twice they destroyed my 1.8 mil. ISK Algos, and both times thay gave me 3 mil in return.

had a mate go mining and he yelled out he was gonna get ganked and we dropped in and ganked the gankers

This video is like i am hearing my gaming autobiography

Betraying is something I expect and I'm often impressed by the betrayer's cunning and skill. Griefing however is something I've hated for years!

Michio Kaku is a corp thief. I always knew.

The "retake" montage at the end was hilarious. Also great video!

I was once chased by a gang of gankers through two low sec systems, I was lucky that day and just managed to get to a jump gate into hi sec, which is just as well as the salvaged cargo I was hauling was worth three times what my ship was worth.

Thanks for all the information. As a new player (less than one week) I'm always looking for good sources.

Really good PSA. Well presented and earnest while still explaining what the person needs to know while not trying to scare them.

Lol. Trust no one. Ever. That’s what EVE teaches you.

Space ships are serious business.

Concord will not save you, they will avenge you :) also you appect pvp may happen when you click the undock botton

many years ago I used to use in game mechanics to annoy people.. one of my faves and was the jet can/loot thief in high sec. and yes I got many interesting skills. i'd also patrol low sec for miners..

I first thought this was a troll video but then I realized there are actually players that don't want conflict and just play glorified farmville in space lol

"The Tyrant" > portrait of gigx

The biggest problem this game has with retention has very little to do with the player base and a lot to do with learning the methods for proper communication. It's culture shock essentially, things the EVE community naturally does that seem alien to new arrivals. People are used to real life and other MMOs where things like scamming, extortion, assault, grand larceny, betrayal, murder and outright warfare are either outlawed or severely curtailed. In EVE they can not only be done for any reason but also for no reason. Did you really expect hell to be like the suburbs? When you run into players in space or have an encounter in local chat you'll often find them obnoxious, defensive dickheads. What you have to understand is that they are like that because at a glance they can't identify a new player from an alt and so they haven't finished assessing the threat you pose to them. That response is shorthand for other EVE vets that says "I'm not giving you anything if you approach the conversation in this way." Try contacting other players through in game mail, private convo or by joining public channels or public fleets and you'll find the reception you get changes completely. I've handed 20 fitted atrons free to noobs in public fleets so they could tackle for the fleet and learn to play with them, ask me for that in local and I'll call you a peasant.

My ex wife has never played EVE, but do believe she is the case study for all of these Eve player types.

Actually got this on my small stream on twitch. I was in Amarr mining with my venture, a guy from a different Corp attacked me since we were hostile, which I didn’t know. Thanks to someone who was watching I was told to be ready for an attack and had the jump button ready. The viewer and I were in a fleet, he took the guy out, and surprisingly the guy understood I was new and gave me cash and a bunch of ships he didn’t want. So while there are dicks, most are good people who are on the defensive at first. Mainly because people pretend to be new, it happened to me, a guy pretended to be new and almost got me in trouble.

I have been on and off eve for years never have joined a Corp and seems like starting one and taking a foot hold seems almost impossible... ahhhhhh just keep up the great videos. PREY on the strong, Feast on the weak!!

"The Tyrant" ...Subtle.... very subtle

Back when Eve came out The Curse Alliance was born out of hated Pirate Corporations like m0o Red Corsairs Sinister ATUK as well as Legit corps like Black Omega Security, Vengeance of the fallen. we fought a 5 front war for years killing everything that came into Curse and Molden Heath. Oh the hate that came my way was thrilling. The fact that 10k players max server pop...it was easy to make a name for my self...I was good at space combat and fleets but the fun came in roving 5 man gank squads.

Good stuff!

4:50 I'm honored you used an example where I am top damage. 6:20 nice choice in tyrants. Those two certainly qualify. The best rule in eve is to trust no one.

“It is only a game, right?” Ok, now I worry.

EvE is currently going down more and more. You can see it in the number of players. I know EvE from times when 70,000 players played. But half of them were definitely alts. So 35,000 players. Today EvE only gets 17-18,000 together, around 8,000 players. Not only are there a lot more gankers, but CCP has also made it harder for miners. I like doing PvP and PvE myself. Some PvElers who have been deep in the business have quit because they can no longer afford to run multiple accounts. But because they need multiple accounts, they are no longer able to achieve anything. It's a shame what the game has mutated into. I lived in WH for years, and 2 years in Low/NullSec. I myself have mined gas where no mining barge existed for it. A Rokh with 8 Gas Miners did it. Why am I telling this? The Miners are the backbone of EvE. CCP but also the Gankers are causing so much damage that the day will come when EvE will close the gate. It won't be right away, but I'm afraid it will be soon. 9 of my FL who were mining low/null sec have stopped. 6 more were in WH/Highsec. Also stopped a whole corp in WH. Have all stopped. (32 members in a C5/C6) Give the miners a guarantee of survival in HighSec, and make it worthwhile to miner again. Miners/Industrial players are the best. Screw the gankers.

Oh man i cracked up when i saw CO2 :) RIP Gigx

Love the fact he said he wont mention any names but clearly depicts gigX and CO2.

Thank you for not listing bad leaders as the worst players. We bad leaders put a lot of time and energy in attracting people before we're finally able to step on their backs to get where we are.

The biggest evil is the high sec mining foreman leader. A guy that focus on new players and tells them how scary null sec and low sec is. His job is to keep new players poor and inexperienced while offering that you use his facilities to reprocess ore and get tax benefits from your ratting at high rates. He offers to buy your ore from well below market prices and basically uses you to make himself wealthy while keeping you poor and afraid

I used to run two accounts. One was dedicated PvP, and was -5.0 or below for a long time. I wouldn’t think twice about attacking first when I came across a “bad guy” in low sec. Better to shoot first and win than wait and be ambushed.

i like them audio bloopers at the end lol

10:09 This was my first interaction with PVP in eve. I was making my way from nullsec to high sec through filaments (Null - Trig Space - High Sec) when I got killed by an malediction in triglavian space, he could tell I was relatively new and generously gave me 10 million after I had died. Once I get myself to omega, this is how I'd like to hunt explorers.

Lol wish i had seen this yesterday...you point right at Tama while talking about gate campers...which i just got killed by in that exact spot lol good times fly safe my friends

It always makes me sad to remember that somehow, after 16 years, EVE scams still work.

Now I know why I always get cloked automatically when I arrived at another star system

I've always called the griefer a troll since I normally play fantasy RPGs. The saying goes, Don't feed the troll.

i love that you added the voice bloopers- this is the dark annoying side of editing and commenting over videos XD

Ask an individual player whether their game morals match their real world morals and the answer skews further toward *no* the more nefarious the in game behavior. I tend to believe that Eve online is a perfect social simulation of what would happen if people were left to their own devices. EDIT: In fact by removing the fear of death or imprisonment while retaining the risk of capital loss, one might even argue that EVE society represents a more accurate portrayal of true moral character than real world society.

"EVEil" LMAO! I clicked for the Widow BTW!

I'm just the type who plays alone help where I can for example sometimes il escort miners or haulers for some money but cross me once my bad cross me twice bad on me cross me three times then it's just old fashioned war.

I guess I should be classed close to bitter vet by now. I've done everything on your list. The one that stands out the most for me is Pirate albeit moreso in null/wormhole spaces. Alas, many game mechanic changes over the last few years have forced me to play in ways I find less enjoyable. The mechanics as they were is what I loved. RIP cynos attached to any ship*

i used to fly around space collecting all the dead bodies, the explode haulier in the middle of a pvp fight

"This is Scott Manley, Phly safe! "

Nice. Like it

I sometimes negotiate to provoke conflicts between different corporations. I build ships and sell to them to make money, and I loots the battlefield after the conflict... huge Stonks lol

"they live to drink your tears" 😂😂

Had a rando chat me up while farming mats for my builds. Told him I didn't what to talk as I had trust issues. He sent me 1 billion isk and said it was to show trust. All it did was make me trust him less. His toon was 2005 old and had a kill list a mile long. 1 billion is like a dollor to guys that old.

Coming from Darkfall, I'm glad I started this game now that darkfall failed. It's so similar in so many ways culturally. Except EVE is so much more complex but lacks in playerskill compared to DF. Overall very good choice for PVP!

Mmm, gate camping with a sniper insta-lock Loki xD

7:30 is 'betraying' really worse than griefing etc.? circle of two kinda had it coming no?

Your pilot looks the dude who gate camped me for the 1st time

Griefers also can't survive in low or null sec... that's why they live in high sec. The only other one I agree with is corp thief. The rest are leaders you should be smart enough not to follow or betrayer can be found long before they can betray 99% of the time.

10:09 same thing happened to me I accepted a fight got wrecked in like 30 seconds but the other piolit gave me even more money than I needed(Gave about 2.5 mill isk I only needed like 1 mill) and told me how to get better

best advice I ever got "never trust a Goon"

LOL Lady Scarlet #2 Fomer BOB renter corp member.. man I still have PTSD

One of the moto's in EvE is "No risk no reward". That's why EvE is a unique game. I love it, whenever i get ganked it means it was my fault (i didn't scan or smth like that). If i get killed i smile and type GF and move on. Losing your ship is part of EvE, don't get attached to it and always have money for another one. It's a great game with wonderful people, but it's also free for all and you have to understand that. EvE won't and it shouldn't change, it's a unique game that survived 10+ years because of this. Adapt and survive, or just don't. Your choice :)

haha Gigx at 6:21.....I wonder if he he still wants to cut the judges hands off

Always insure your ships and also don't fly what you risk to lose either I know it's tempting when you get your first BC or Bs but make sure your skills are fully better then a level 1 they say to me 4 or 5 fully skilled and use t1 or best t2 if you can depending on if you are an alpha or omega. Player

"if an offer is too good to be true usually it is" unless someones put a sell order at 800% mark down of jita price at high volume. thats just good.

When I saw gigx I already started to comment on how unfair your choice is. Then I saw Number 1 and am now satisfied ^^

WH space best space!

You forgot the small gang ECM pilot.

A tyrant usually falls by civil war or betrayal. Lol CO2 had both

ISK is also the Icelandic currency "IS" is for "Iceland" and "K" is for "Krónur"

Nice video, it's always fun to hear others opinions on these things. O7

I have been tempted to play eve over the years then I watch KZfaq videos about it to prepare and change my mind

i have met a few of the last catagory. because of it i have often donated 20-50 million to new players

I used to ninja salvage, and occasionally Suicide Gank hulks

When I’m playing board games, I’m absolutely ruthless and manipulative, but it’s all fun and game. This is obviously on a different scale and there is a different investment. But the mentality you have on the board game should try to be applied to this as well. It’s all in good fun.

nice video to showcase the less than savory behaviour players can display in eve. only issue is this video seems to villify PvP. Low Sec piracy is not evil behaviour, it is casual PvP. the majority of people caught and killed in Low Sec PvP flew into it looking for a fight. the rest went into low Sec with no understanding of the danger or we're not paying attention. bad leaders is confusing incompetence with evil. the ones who fall in this catagory do not understand what being a leader requires and lacks the experience to understand what an impossible fight looks like or the basics of information gathering/ control. a very basic necessity of Corp success. really it boils down to scammers, griefers, Corp thieves and spies, tyrants and AFK Cloakers.

i subscribed just cuz i play EVE and you sound like the Disneyland voice on the trams xD

you forgot the loss off hands meme

And I am glad that this is a part of EVE, if not for this the game would be mundane and utterly boring to play. It too helps seperate the weak-pussied players from the battle-hardened ones, I am glad such a game exists.

I am kind of counting on betrayal.... To get my ass up the power ladder.

The corp I was in ISF was all these things.

I’m about to download it so I sub to him for starter knowledge but I’m quite afraid

You didn't mention about undocking thefts

i had a griefer/merc come after my corp before, camp them in there station on the first 1 hr of the war :P. while quoting what is good from conan the barbarian lol

Emptied and backstabbed a pirate corp. Then got paid to investigate the higher-ups in another corp I was in for scamming, then provided them with evidence.. all back in 2003 :P

Been playing this game for 3 years. Been in Wormholes for 2 years. Every time I clobber a new player "under 3 months" I'll toss them some iskies.

Betrayers! R.I.P SMA, had fun as long as it lasted :'(

"At that time i had around 80 bombers alts" ... OK well im go now since we are not needed XD

Spreadsheets in spaaaaaace!

I do more respect to those player who is an aggresive fighter than the other, they are a good warrior

I was a royal cunt during my last 3-4 years in Eve. Myself with a few others created the method for which a faction warfare player can sit in enemy highsec space without harassment from the Faction Navy. So many people think they are safe in highsec while in Faction Warfare. We had some awesome fights when the opposing militia would band together and bring a fleet.

I loved playing this game. There's none like it.

Eve online brings out your true character.

Number three: the corp thief *insert the fall of co2 here*

Ooh, i had Griefers, twice, luckly i recognized them and simply withdraw. Honest miners cant work without them bugging you once or twice per week.

I just wanna join a corp like fairy tail guild kind of vibe. is that how it works?

Nice video :D haha

4:50 i thought you said no naming and shaming sir :p

i remember a few months ago when the griefers went around all high sec killing all miners pretty much at any time of the day if you went mining you would just get destroyed lasted for a few days - lost 2 barges in thoes few days lol - almost lost my paladin aswell because i had enough got my paladin and went to destroy them couldent hit them fro shit tho so just put a web on one and webed them untill the police came worked out fine in the end i guess :P

Maybe real life is my capsule and EVE is the real world....

"its only a game" is "its only a game" aslong as you, the one who said it ISNT getting the short end of the stick. after that it will become a saltmine.

Another dangerous type: The Trillionaire - one that can manipulate in-game markets, corporations and even alliances. I satisfy with the first.

I've been known to SRP a newbro's ship and add some advice....from time to time 😂