Derp just realized I forgot to include the Danes/Norwegians in this globe. Obviously I want to see some viking action in my AOE4 as well. They're the civ I'd predict to be the most likely new addition in the next expansion. I even made a full high effort ass video on them too - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nL2capx3zsm1Yps.html

I hope the aoe 4 devs are watching this

wow. you are always making the very content in regard to AOEIV that I would like to see. If your conjectures / hopes / projections would come true it would be just amazing. Also your civ-concepts are so cool.

The next update either needs to be panamerican civs or maybe a theme of civs like aztecs and spanish. The spanish, the norse and something like the magyars, bulgars, poles are sorely missing from europe's roster. Venice could also have very interesting mechanics. But we can't have an all europe update, because other regions of the world are still very underrepresented.

Just wanna say, one of your videos got me into AOE4 and I've been loving it! Keep it up Chilly!

I’m new to age of empires, but I found your account and I love how you incorporate an actual passion for history into your videos about the game. Great videos man, keep it up

Thank you! I was so looking for something like this. Tried to search reddits for what civs could be added to AoEIV, since I myself don't really know which empires were there at that timeframe. But I love thinking and speculating about it. Love ur civ design videos aswell. Hope to see more of them soon, watched them all already! I really do hope the devs watch ur vids aswell and bring all the civs u made a design video for already. Loved the Khmer, Vikings and the koreans so far! So thanks! You're the only one doing this. Keep it coming! :)

This was a great watch. I would love to play as Aztecs and Lionheart. And it was very interesting to hear about the Mississipians!

Good Video, a civ Concept for every faction should be enough content for this year. For your info, Bohemia was a kingdom, for its own and is now present in aoe2 with war wagons and hufnica.

Nice vid. Great proposed factions let's hope the devs include them in the future.

Alexander Nevsky famously fought with Teutons and Swedes, but didn't fight with Mongols. Instead he had recognized himself as the vassal of Khan and paid him a tribute. Actually in Russian historiography he considered sometimes as a symbol of the Eurasian and anti-Western path. Personally I would prefer Southern Rus variant (focused on Ukrainian land), may be something like Kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia (Kingdom of Ruthenia). Starting from the 13-th century its warfare was kind a mix between Old Rus, European knightly and Nomadic step traditions. Although it's very interconnected with Poland and Lithuania as well.

Listened to this whole video in the background and it was really interesting so thanks! My money's on Spanish as one of the next civs added, cos I've seen it requested a lot in the broad AoE community (AoE2 players as well) and the devs saw a lot of success adding two highly requested fan favourite civs in the last expansion. For the second civ, I'm not sure what the devs would choose, but there are a lot of great options. I'd absolutely love to see an AoE4 take on the Aztec military. Your civ concept for the Vietnamese made me really interested in them. Adding a second African civ or a Hindu civ would be incredibly cool. I also have a friend who really really wants to see either the Scots or the Irish (would they be called "the Gaels" in this game?). We're spoiled for choice! It's a shame we only get two of these a year!

I feel there is a distinct lack of central asian civilizations here. The steppes were incredibly important, and there is extensive history between many states of many different steppe cultures that allows the Mongol invasions to happen. The spread of religions like Buddhism, Islam, Tengrism, Christianity and Manichaeism, and the flow of knowledge, trade and technology between these steppes civilizations is big part of the Mongol's advantage in their conquests. I could see these in the game; the Kara-Khanid Khanate, Kyrgyz Khaganate, Qocho Kingdom and the Kipchak Confederations with either the Cumans or the Kimeks. Check them out, I feel you'd find them interesting.

@ChillyEmpire I hope you check out the history of Bulgaria!

Love this video! Also do you have any plans to do variant civs for China, Vietnam, Korea, or Japan?

Delhi Sultanate as an Indian Empire is not even closely so controversial as Rus equal to Moscow principality

I paused before the New Civilizations Section. I did some research and here's my list. Let's see how close we are. Within each region, I ranked them based on how deserving I think the civilization is of being represented, based off of population, longevity, cultural scope, and sphere of influence. Asia --Tamils - the most deserving of all listed; greatest population after Song China in year 1,000; massive cultural development; huge scope of influence; long lasting --Bengalis (Pala Empire, Bengal Sultanate) --Khmer - very interesting design on your channel --Goryeo/Joseon --Vietnamese - most exciting design in any of your videos; love the teleporting hideout network --Majapahit Europe --Spanish --Danes - probably not enough population or longevity; but that Saga system design was cool Africa --Amazigh --Ethiopians --Beninese --Kingdom of Matupa Americas --Maya --Mississippians - the faction I'm rooting for the most getting into the game --Andeans - Wari and Tiwanaku Empires early, Inca Empire late --Toltec - probably not long lasting enough; problems would occur with balancing them and retaining some accuracy --Puebloans - probably not a great enough population, but they're on the bubble and deserve consideration --Aztecs - definitely didn't last long enough to deserve a spot; but wow the design on your website is the most exciting one Variants --Timurid Empire (Mongols) --Liao or Jin Dynasty (China) - during the AoE4 timeline, China had 20-25% of the world's population; they deserve a lot of representation --Ghana or Songhai Empire (Mali) --Solomonic Dynasty or Sultanate of Mogadishu (Ethiopia) --Some sort of reference to the Crusades

This look very very pleasing

Came here for AoE4 talk, stayed for History Lesson

Yeah Majapahit, bhayangkara with gun lance and djong war ship that have some immune from cannon fire.

Enjoyed the video. Imo devs should definitely add Ethiopia, Korea and at least one southeast asian empire before wrapping up aoe4.

About Novgorod. My concept in nutshell to make it more distinctive: - Trading - market buffs; - Administration - unique non-military unit called Posadnik, that buffs villagers and traders similarily to HRE prelates or Byzantine cisterns; - Defense - can build stone walls and towers without need of Spasskaya landmark, unique military unit called Tysiatskii, that can build better defenses and buff built ones. Unlike regular Rus, Novgorod doesn't have warrior monks and has less religion buffs. By the way, Golden Horde also was more Turkic faction. They were Kipachak Cuman, Tatar, Ubzek Turkic speaking empire. that became own thing from Mongols.

Any OG Asherons Call players here when he mentioned Katars ;)

I would like to contest you on the usefulness of Mangudai. They are a hell to deal with in 3v3 and 4v4 team games, as a single Mongol player can devastate your trade, with the only counter pretty much being walls. It is a very effective surprise attack that will both cripple the enemy economy as well as steal the attention of all 4 enemy players. Granted it is a niche use, Mangudair are not to be underestimated. They just don't fill every combat scenario, which is fine.

Some notes on what you said on AoE2: The Bohemians in AoE2 have the hussite war wagon (high hp gunpowder "tank" unit) and the houfnice (stronger bombard) as their unique units The Poles and Lithuanians have winged hussars as regional units, and the Magyars have the magyar huszar as its unique unit Khmer architecture is colorful and shiny in AoE2, not overgrown

With the introduction of variant civs, I'm imagining that they could introduce two civs being "variants of each other". I'm not savvy enough with history, but what I can come off with would be something like: instead of making a "Celt civilization", they could introduce both the Irish and the Scots. They're "variant civs" of each other, effectively introducing two new civs for the price of making one.

Great choice ! Would love to see some venitian concept as well in the game regarding their place in the middle age

Man, that was a lot of video, sadly, I can only rate it half as good as your othern videos, because i felt that half my heritage got forgotten. (The Vikings). kek. Jokes a side. Great idea with the whole google map thingy! Really puts into perspective how vast the world is and fun to see where all civilizations are located at. And brings a small tear to eye seeing that some of my flags getting put into good use :> About the Hungarian black armor: Yes they were indeed black, or very dark blue, was due the result of the Acid-bath the steel armor was given add more corrosive resistance to the steel parts. The process is called Blueing. There was different kind of acids, but the one that made them black, or a dark shade of blue was the cheapest one, and the "shiny" acid bath that made the shiny grey steel armor we mostly accosiate armor with. Actually the Cheapest armor, ironically consider the OTD, was the black one used by the Hungarians. And a reasoning for this is that they were often under a tight budget, they were afterall more Mercentile army, that was being personally invested by a Lord or a King's own pocket. Also love the fact that every nation Flags are filled with symbols and simple colors lines. Meanwhile Benin: ""You know what would be a great idea to discourage foreign invasions? Lets make a flag about chopping peoples head off! LOL"

In addition to the Tamils, I'd also like to see Rajputs or Odias (the Eastern Ganga Empire and the Gajapati empires) as Indian factions. Rajputs are great for a campaign against the Delhi Sultanate, and would probably be a primarily cavalry civ, with a unique cavalry improvement (fake elephant trunks) to gain bonuses against elephants. The Odias on the eastern coast of India also have a rich history and they were one of the only Indian empires untouched by the Delhi Sultanate. It would be an elephant civ with worker (villager) elephants that don't require dropsites.

I would like to see the Venetian Republic civ because this civ had wars with Byzantine and Ottoman.

God please I hope they are watching this.

Inca need food and farm buffs and need to be an integral part to that civ. The Incans really emphasized food and food storage, with massive storages of food that would last years. There a reason why Peru has some of the best food in the world. There was basically no starvation. They also didn't use a writing system exactly but the Quipu, where they would record EVERYTHING. All sorts of records, and admirative work was done via that.

I like these ideas, but having Scotland/Ireland as a VARIANT of England would be a gauntlet-dressed slap to the face

bro knows his history! respect

High quality content from Chilly again !!

Timurids empire is turkco mongol empire timur himself was turkified mongol (barlas mongol), if dzungar khagante become mongols new variant it will be amazing

The Aztecs historically use cavalry in their war to Spain, because they stole a lot of horses. and there is the possibility that, as well as using those horses stolen from Spain, then they could use stolen cannons. Idk, great video btw:)

Novgorod Republic is very different from the rest of Russia, Novgorod is the largest, most influential and richest city in Rus (It was the varangians who came from Novgorod for Byzantium), Rus began from Novgorod, not from Kiev, democracy ruled in it, decisions were made by the people on the square, and the republic itself lived off trade. A great option for Rus, where there will be no hunting, but there will be trade - Novgorod is a member of the Hanseatic League, traded throughout northern Europe to England and Germany

Great compilation! Although it’s nice to dream, I think to bring it a little bit back to reality, I don’t see Koreans, Portuguese, Benin, Hungarians, or Amazigh having any chance of making it in. All of them are either overshadowed by other civs in the time period or don’t have enough to distinguish themselves from current civs already in the game, unless they rework current variants into new civs entirely. I also can see New World civs being completely left out because as we saw with AoE3DE, “proper representation” is so much thornier with Native American civs that devs might just want to avoid that headache entirely lest people try to cancel them for giving those civs Bombards (they were even throwing a fit in the comments to your Reddit posts for not coming up with a completely new siege system)

I definitely think a Kingdom of Jerusalem civilization would be perfect for aoe4. While theres some overlap of course they definitely developed their own culture and tied in with the Crusader ideals I think they could really make them stand out.

Maybe the Bohemian Kingdom could be a future HRE variant civ

For American civs you could skip trebuchets and mangonels (we could find a way to replace those), and straight up give them some gunpowder in imperial, as there are accounts of natives stealing from the conquistadors. Similar with cavalry, give them a single, semmi-heavy multi-purpose sofa-style horse in imperial. In Argentina (and I believe in USA too), natives are closely associated with horse-riding. Here in fact horse rider natives were known to be bola-throwers while on horseback in fact

Timurids can be their own civilization, begins as timurids and ends with Khanate of Bukhara maybe, Persians can get their civilization by resembling the Safavids mostly, and Fatimids could be a cool addition as well

very good Video, you should work as an devoloper of age of Empires. So many good Ideas.

I think that's saturation, I'm more on the side of things were "less is more" videogame desing. Currently some civs are quite outdated and boring (HRE, English) so I would rather have even less civs than now if that would mean a more dense and unique civ rooster.

Hell yeah, brother.

Portuguese Fetorias are pretty much fortified trading posts

admiral Yi Sun Shin being one of the most underappreciated naval commander in history will be something i'll never get over

European civ - Spainish ( Variant Potugal ) - Poland - Danes - Hungary Asian civ - Joseon Dynaty - Vietnamese - Khrme Empire ( Variant Ayyuthaya ) - Majapahit Americant civ - Aztect - Inca Africant civ - Ethiopia - Maroc

Hope for Poles. Winged hussars we know should appear in the imperial age. In the 1410 Poles beat Teutons

I hope they add next expansion and Poland and our Winged Hussars ;) Good sintesis of factions. Salahudin was Kurdish descent. We have plenty Horse formations - Dragons , Panzers, Lisovians and Winged Hussars we were mainly cavalry civ - we have very rich history - we stand against HRE few times under Conrad II in Budziszyn and under Glogów with German Henry the V Salisian (Germans hang children and women from near vilages around siege towers Polish defenders were force to shoot to their relatives but they stop and defet HRE invasion ) and Kevian Rus our King Boleslav the Brave rise against Kievian Rus and conquer Kiev city and defeat Kievian Vojewod /Kniaź (Prince) Jaroslav the Wise - and took his sister who offended him by mocking him describe him as savage boar and refuse his marriage proposal. We beat Teutonic Order in 1410 - Our Vasals Pomeranians suported by Polish king Boleslav Wrymouth lunch greatest invasion to Scandinavia and defeat Vikings burning Upsala and Konungehela in 1135 end nordic regin on Seas. We faced III Mongols invasions under Legnica we lost our king Henry II the Religious and he lost his head. At II invasion they pour into undefended lands sack burn rape and pilage half a country galop under the Cracow but stop at very gates at III invasion , prince Leszek the black drive them back with Hungarian king Bella from our lands. From 1500 start our Golden age we beat Crimean Tatars ...Sweds , Russians and Cosacks and also Turks (via Sige of Vienna 1683 or Battle at Parkany wehere Hussars uterly crush Turks) we launch contra attack on Swedo Russian Coaltion and defet dem at Kłuszyn and Smoleńsk and we take Moscow in 1612 for 2 years ! Russians must gather 27 000 of people and 15.000 mercanerys from west to stop our millitary support banish our defenders traped in Moscow. in 1600 to 1611 broke The Polish Swedish war called Deluge ..we almost lost but under Lightmountain monastyr we turn the tide and push back Sweds and cut almost they all forces. There is plenty battles acros the period for Polish camp. Take care Chilly .

maratha civs for forts ,gurilla warfare,plunder

You forgot about the danes/vikings

My wishes for the next years (i hope they can move to two updates a year eventually): [Variants in braces] Europe: Norse [Danes] Spanish [Aragon] Magyars Bulgars (great for Byz. campaign) Poles Venice/Genoa/Papal state Portuguese Georgians/Armenians America: Aztecs Inkas Mayans Pueblo Asia: Koreans [Golden Horde or Timurids for Mongols] [Seljuks for Ottomans] Khwarezmians Khmer Vietnamese Tamil? Tatars? I sadly don't know enough about african history to predict their civs. There are a few must-haves, without the game wouldn't feel complete. I'm excited to see what the future holds, but Relic kinda needs to speed up a bit.

id love to see the spanish and the aztecs added :)

Hungary's something I'd really like to see.

you forgot one big civilization the VIKINGS. thats a civ i miss

Inca could access Cav with an Imp Landmark

romanians have great history too but sadly they were 3 principalities divided as 3 separate nations and i think they couldnt fit them into just a single civ bu it would be so cool

Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth would be nice

Spanish Almogavars

i wanna see some siberian tribes and the dutch

Great Video. I am missing a viking faction that turned into sweden. Cause the vikings kicked English asses a Lot of Times and sweden was a big enemy of the hre in the 30 years war. They would have so much Potential für unique units especially ships

Kingdom of Cicilia or Armenia would be really cool.

I want to see a southamerica civ before anything else we got so much on the easrtern half of the world we need something from the west side. Aztecs with a human sacrifice landmark where either you kidnap other people villagers or use yours to get buffs or special units

Theyre starting to think the Incans did have a writing system with something called a syllab Quipu. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5yJdM2rl7rcn3U.htmlsi=k-nmnO40sS2A3F64 The first part and last part of the documentary discusses it.

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I just want the Danes/Vikings :)

the new world can have the same siege as the spanish.

A little surprised you didn't include a Scandinavian civ to be added. Not that I mind, they're so overdone.

Nothing from Italy?

I would really like to see either Denmark or just the "Danes" as a civ

You forgot the danes/norsemen/vikings

Is stupid to have precolombian civs as they were at the stone age until spain arrive, how could they stand against any other civ without giving them unhistorical staff just because they want to be inclusive? in aoe3 they did the same and they are some of the divs less used by players Also there werent big precolombian empires as the HRE, France, China or others in the rest of the world, as for example aztecs werent an empire but a big tribe that had under his foot the other tribes, always without ruling them, thats why when spain arrived they got the support of almost every other tribe to conquer the aztecs in the USA also werent nothing similar to empires, they werent even like the aztecs. Indian tribes were really small and even if devs add them they would be like mongols but worse

In game rus is one big historical mistake...

DEVS PLZ

Interesting vid man; original idea u got here 😎 Microsoft should see this vid and take some notes 🗒