#dragons #fromsoftware #eldenring an in depth madman deep dive about the the dragons of the lands between
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@archite001 Жыл бұрын
The wings of the dragonkin soldiers reminds me of the ones that the deathbirds have. Also, their affinity to cold is a kind of connection to ghostflame, so it could be that the dragonkin were supposed to achieve wings with this affinity that the Nox had with Deathbirds and Ghostflame
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
That's a great connection I hadn't thought of that
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I probably could've went into alot more detail about placidusax but he may get his own video with all the theories surrounding time wizard dragon lord
@derrickmiles2153 Жыл бұрын
WTF IS KZfaq DOING WHY DIDNT I GET A NOTIFCATION
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@derrickmiles2153 they targeted gamers
@thegamersconclave8709 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I would love to chat with you about game lore. I have so many theories I think you would dig.
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@thegamersconclave8709 lets get some game theories going buddy hell yee
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Temporal prisoner placidusax
@trevinsingh9390 Жыл бұрын
I have this personal theory that the dragonkin soldiers were made using trolls. The way that they appear ingame and the fact that both are missing their stomach which could of been the result of Marika sealing the fire giant's outer God. I also think that's what cursed Marika with the dual persona of Radagon since it said that he hated his red hair.
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
And they roar when summoned in I believe similar to the trolls
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@LoreBear thanks Bear
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I mentioned in the video they looked like they were made from troll corpses. We know the nox had atleast some interactions with trolls by the silver tear that turns into one.
@sk8legendz Жыл бұрын
@LoreBear I need Miyazaki to come to my house to explain why the fuck runebears are more trouble than they're worth, not silly dragon lore
@kreadapelu8813 Жыл бұрын
The missing stomach thing might be a matter of morality. If you recall, nothing can really die in the Lands Between until we release Destined Death. So when you eat something… it is still alive as you digest it. Sure, bodies are broken down but the soul is absorbed in a likely unpleasant fashion into the thing that broke the body. Or it writhes around in your body and causes no end of agony. Solution, rip out those organs. Maybe you won’t feel hunger. Even if you do, the inability to satiate hunger is probably easier to handle than digesting a terrified and suffering thing.
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
I liked the ice dragon battle. It was one of the highlights of the Snowfield. Definitely got a sense of dread when that all-enveloping mist rolled in.
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
People like to shit on the mountaintops but it has some of my favorite things in the game here like the frozen lake fight against borealis, the guardians garrison, castle sol etc. I found the area very memorable especially with the birds and trolls fighting unending battles with eachother
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman Let's not forget the vicious fingercreeper ambushes. There's quite a few side trails/nooks and crannies to be explored in this area. A lot more verticality than you might initially think. Compared to the straight bangers that are the rest of the game, the Snowfields might not be the same level as say Lyndell but they're just as good as Caelid imo.
@Someguywithalotoftism Жыл бұрын
Dude that fight was awesome. I got him to one hit left then died haha. I then killed him second try after levelling damage a lil bit
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@Someguywithalotoftism the best boss fights are like that. Because then you come back and get your revenge and it is sweet...
@CeeUNexTuesday1001 Жыл бұрын
Also the giant fucking hand. I had to cheese it
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
There's alot of theories about the dragons that I think I might cover in a separate video because there's several good ones that one could make a pretty solid case for and it seems like an interesting discussion topic
@TheBigHatLegion Жыл бұрын
You never fail to make me or my wife absolutely die laughing while being informative and educational, like an insanely stoned Mr Rogers
@BasedWizard-j9f Жыл бұрын
Is there a video where you explain the whole “Radagon is an alchemy experiment” thing? Really curious about that
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I definitely will do this. It's just a ridiculous theory that I'm trying to turn into a meme
@goldenbough6563 Жыл бұрын
Concerning the ancient dragons, after defeating Maliketh at the coliseum one finds a statuary depicting a young woman ringed playfully by three wolves. It’s a significant scene, repeated on loading screens in-game. Many have speculated this is Marika and I think the idea sound. Before she became a vessel for the elden ring, Marika was an empyrean, the daughter of a god and lord. The first true Elden Lord was Placidusax and this statuary is located in Farum Azula, the dragonlord’s tower in the sky. Above the statuary is a carved depiction of an elden ring. This is Placidusax’s and it contains more great runes than the one we’re familiar with. Consider for a moment the correlation between great runes and demigods. A female god acts as a vessel for these runes, carrying them inside and for every great rune she births a demi-god. With this in mind, the dragonlord’s extensive elden ring implies Marika had numerous maternal siblings. They needn’t have had the same father. A god can have more lords than one, as Marika did. Most likely, they came in batches, from different consort fathers of which Placidusax was the last. Apart from him, there are three ancient dragons in the game - Gransax, Fortisax and Leansax - and it’s possible they’re his children with Marika’s mother. If so, they’re distantly related to Marika’s children, giving Godrick’s boss fight soliloquy an authentic twist.
@davisiotta4894 ай бұрын
this is such a good theory, I would just maybe disagree with the part that each demigod was born with their own great rune, I also don't think that the elden of farum azula has extra runes, if you look closely unlike the other great runes, these extra "runes" do not complete a circle, rather I believe they are part of the "root rune" you can even see that two of these runes down their lines and branch out like roots
@davisiotta4894 ай бұрын
I always wondered why Marika sleeps on a bed made of literal stone and when we see her at the end of the game her body is basically made of rock, she could have not inherited her father's draconic characteristics but instead inherited the most important characteristic of dragons, their stone scales?
@cross-eyedhollow Жыл бұрын
Very good video Madman. That point about Rykard and Aldia's similarities was unexpected XD. They both sure do love torture dungeons hey?
@deanski96 Жыл бұрын
Love these lore vids man. Maybe one day u could do a lore vid on enemies with little lore like the revenants, ulcerated tree spirits or worm faces etc
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I did one on revenants and wraithcallers
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Wormfaces I've been wanting to cover for awhile I need to get on that
@nicholascocuzzi8943 Жыл бұрын
“But everything changed when the fire giants attacked “
@captaintitusultramarine10 ай бұрын
The lore got you a like, the huge rip at the end earned you a sub lol.
@geordiejones5618 Жыл бұрын
Is that the ME2 galaxy music? One of the best games I've ever played.
@i.salcido8183 Жыл бұрын
Really wish there were more ice dragons, lorewise, there really isn't much info about them and I've always wondered how they got to the mountaintops from the very beginning
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Flying. But seriously, maybe Borealis is guarding spirit caller cave? Or he really likes big frozen lakes. Speaking of spirits, we could definitely do a video on the spirit jellyfish if there's any lore about them. (Not much I dont think besides the spirit ash and the shield)
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Inwqnna cover the jellyfish, I was thinking of including them in a video about spirits since they seem to be the people reincarnated into jellyfish form atleast going by the ash side quest at stargazer ruins
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman see I was thinking it was just a jelly who was part of an ancient jelly civilisation who died long ago (pre-Erdtree?) and received a burial along with her seeestaah. Not sure how spirit jellyfish could dig a grave though. Or carve headstones for that matter
@caposway677 Жыл бұрын
“ “Dragons” as Christopher Walken would put it “ 😂😂😂😂😂
@Shmeky. Жыл бұрын
Ice dragons are pretty cool no pun intended
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE SIR
@spiralunity5 ай бұрын
You knew dragon communion and the serpent religion was linked, just vibed it out a year ago, and now we got Messmer
@inmortuae4512 Жыл бұрын
Adula was probably protecting ranni against the same people that killed iji and blaidd
@AlbertusSalvatierra Жыл бұрын
As much as I love your channel, I will say two things. The Dragonlord’s god was akin to what Marika is. We have demigods, gods, outer gods, unknown beings presented as gods, and then the Greater Will. Based upon the whole thing with Gods having Elden Lords. At any rate, the Greater Will does shift gears from the ancient dragons, but the GW was not this god said to have abandoned them. Another thing, I don’t believe it’s ever said Godfrey forced the Dragonlord into hiding. Their conflict with their god seemed more or less self contained, as the Greater Will would set its sights on Marika. Their conflict with the dragons happened after the creation of the Golden Order. Anyway - love the video 🙏🏼 the dragons of this game really shed light on the ancient history of the world
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Okay well if the dragons god wat akin to what Marika was, wouldn't it say empyrean? But if you're correct then I would assume the fled "god" is the gloam eyed queen and I know it's never stated that godfrey forced the placidusax into hiding, I would say it's assumed, unless placidusax ordered gransax to attack leyndell, which I stated in the video happened after godfreys campaign, forgot to mention godfreys banishment but i said it was godywyn who fought the dragons. It's not really outright stated anywhere as fact how all the stuff I'm just connecting the dots in a way my brain makes it make sense lol
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I mean just going off of the state of farum azula I think it's possible the dragons were relocated there after the war against the golden order since it seems like the beasts had been there longer.
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
But I am aware of which gods are which but I suppose I should've clarified. There's so many specific terms in the game sometimes my stoned ass forgets to specific
@WolfHreda Жыл бұрын
"Let's leave this Metalocalypse Deku Tree be and..." Boy, if I wasn't already subscribed...
@sk8legendz Жыл бұрын
no idea that Yura would help you if you died multiple times..... I died plenty my first time and dude was just like " turn back you maidenless dummy"
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I think you have to summon him but I can't remember
@THE_Number_ONE_1_HATER5 ай бұрын
“But everything changed when the fire giants attack”
@logancade3422 ай бұрын
Nah, bro. Remember how Smaug in The Hobbit says "I am fire"? The name is Borealis the Freezing Fog because he *is* the freezing fog, which is infinitely more badass than "of the freezing fog," imo.
@spiralunity5 ай бұрын
Reign of fire cast was so stacked lol
@jakelee8789 Жыл бұрын
Rykard is my Family..... Can't wait to see the next one
@josephrush3166 Жыл бұрын
looks like eyes in the sky of the lychdragon fight
@jacobberry5138 Жыл бұрын
Alright. Time to get ripped, watch while eating taco salad.
@thegamersconclave8709 Жыл бұрын
Gold bruh, the membranes are Gold. It's like that because they used to be the Chosen of the Crucible. It's also why the Elden Beast is dragon like in nature. Finally, the Elden Beast is the god Plasidusax is waiting for.
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I figured they were meant to represent the color of the primordial gold that root resin is but this also makes sense. In some lights though they look orangish to me but I'm probably color blind
@thegamersconclave8709 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman Primordial Gold is what the Red Lighting represents, I believe. It talks about it in the various abilities you get from the Ancient Dragon Incantations.
@payday7679 Жыл бұрын
Amazing vid. I don’t think the greater will is the fleeing god it’s seems to me a cut above the rest especially in the Japanese , if you look at the terminology the only things referred to as god are outer gods and beings like queen Marika the eternal or an empyrean like the goddess of rot in English
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I don't think the greater will fled. I probably should have worded it differently but what I meant was that the greater will was the God that abandoned placidusax, causing the dragonlord to flee, I think the GW just abandoned him for Marika and godfrey
@38Jim Жыл бұрын
Hey brother, just caught up on some of your videos. Love your hard work here! Keep it up
@on3trackmind2 ай бұрын
You’re good at this
@tequilawhiskey Жыл бұрын
Fucking Eustice would smack a dragon with me mallet
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
First...elden Lord that is! 11:12 marikas t*ts! I wish that was his in game title
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Aka placidusax
@hmmmhmmm6917 Жыл бұрын
1:05 Lmao until the fire giants attacked
@miketherecliner Жыл бұрын
Your outro reminded me to smoke. Thank you 😎
@AlbertusSalvatierra Жыл бұрын
Lol was gunna ask for one of these - my guy you hoped to it before I could even act. At any rate, can’t wait to watch this.
@whiskeygrave6361 Жыл бұрын
I find it disappointing the Flying Dragon Greyll, guarding the bridge in Caelid, really doesn't have any lore.
@psevdhome Жыл бұрын
You mention Aldia from DS2. I'm kind of sad that Scholar of the First Sin came out and had Aldia as a tree-head-cyclops monster with lame AoE attacks. Before SotFS came out a lot of people theorized that Aldia had become that ancient dragon and had stopped caring about scheming as he had attained a perfect form. Now in Dark Souls the trees and the dragons are connected and Aldia is some sort of tree-human hybrid and thus he sort of attained the same goal. I'm just disappointed as everybody was so heavy into theorycrafting in DS 2 and that was one of the coolest theories around. It's a similar disappointment when DS3 had the nameless king who is supposedly the son of Gwyn, when up until that point everyone was sure it was Solaire. He even had the same sword as that one statue. I guess I am describing the pain of wanting to be right and being proven wrong.
@this1epicdude Жыл бұрын
26:29 ahhh. Yu Gi Oh, from Blue Eyes White Dragon
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
This is the best comment
@jakeforgey5378 Жыл бұрын
Honored... the Godskin abnormal physiology, such as that of the tails of the nobles, the serpentine nature of the apostles and the few lesser features that take model alteration and cloth removal which i have seen only one video that got reported and taken down for, those all said to have been "inhuman physiology incorporated into ones flesh" similar to well the crucible incantations but instead of being fire and forget study, those of the godskins studied these traits relentlessly until they could fully incorporate them into their flesh... basically while we all wanted another dragon waifu (the only eligible one be Lanseax who is aiming to kill everyone who approaches her) the Godskins are not due to a god(desss)-dragon coupling as far as current lore has implied... I know as i did a Godskin run and none of the gear mentioned them being such, but also mentioned they incorporate inhuman physiology into their bodies to gain an edge over the gods they were hunting... also from the minor bits of lore the Gloam-eyed Queen is referenced as a daughter to marika so...
@udobybreak6393 Жыл бұрын
Probing Uranus.
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Ranni
@brendanmuller7301 Жыл бұрын
Underrated channel. I see you're a star wars fan what are your thoughts on legends?
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I thought legends were cool. I even liked the legscy series since it was set so far into the future of the timeline and I like edy stuff. I love the cwmmp as well. I grew up reading the occasional legends book. Since Disney took over tho I've been extremely hit and miss on their new lore
@staomruel Жыл бұрын
Praise the tree!
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
As always this video is pure speculation and a somewhat coherent attempt to string my various theories into a video
@DrGamersEmporium Жыл бұрын
Good choice on the music. You might like Klaus Schulze's Kontinuum album, its got a really similar vibe
@eldenringpvpenthusiast1710 Жыл бұрын
Late comment, but the description of vyke had me lose it lmao!
@Lucious_Skywalker Жыл бұрын
From 28:33 onwards it just keeps getting better
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
I'm almost to that point
@goletarider805 Жыл бұрын
Love the background music at 10:00. Is it Uncharted Worlds or Distant Worlds from Mass Effect?
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
It's the map one but specifically from 2 I think
@RitzScythe Жыл бұрын
So honestly I'd fucking LOVE Christopher Walken to get a role in a From game, hed make a good patches-esque character, or a dying king or some shit.
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be honestly pretty great and he would do it too. The only game I've seen him in tho is true crime streets of LA he plays the main characters cop friend
@RitzScythe Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman this actually tempts me to play but I KNOW thats not my kinda game, walkens just got such an iconic voice I'd be lying if I said otherwise
@topcat59 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid bro.😺
@boozados8 ай бұрын
So is there any meaning in the Farum Greatbridge considering the shared name between Farum Azula?
@johnathanmanuel780 Жыл бұрын
Mass effect background music. For elden ring lore really.
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I like the galaxy menu theme
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Seemed educational
@johnathanmanuel780 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman there are cosmic themes, so it does work just threw me off lol
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
I also just wanted to change it up from zelda, fire emblem and pikmin music that I tend to always use
@johnathanmanuel780 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman throw evreyone off and play the duck waddled away lol
@loutmouth8 ай бұрын
Hii. Is that mass effect music in the background or am i just hearing things
@MISERABLE_WRETCH Жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@nbmoleminer5051 Жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Draconians
@minespatch Жыл бұрын
Do you plan on doing a video on Ralph Bakshi's Wizards in the future?
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Fuck yes
@BonePapi Жыл бұрын
The lore of dragons is simple. I pound them while giving Godfrey a thumbs up.
@pandasaremellow787 Жыл бұрын
the content you *bubbles* crave
@puzzleheaded6195 Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is why aren’t you taking fat rips anymore..
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
At the end. The next long one will probably also have one in the middle too
@michaelbarker6732 Жыл бұрын
the rips are half of why I watch lol
@sladoid Жыл бұрын
Outro: Lmaooooo
@justinroux1610 Жыл бұрын
So dragons are firebenders
@darkhobo Жыл бұрын
Fia is Fortissax
@halfthefunnn Жыл бұрын
Woot woot!
@derrickmiles2153 Жыл бұрын
Another great lore vid. Sucks we cant cut the dragon tales off tho...
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
That's awesome hopefully they include this feature in a game
@Method702 Жыл бұрын
ANDOR!!!
@tarnished1601 Жыл бұрын
BLACK FIRE UPON US!! Metalapocaplse cds are best!
@ladonmccabe Жыл бұрын
I usually really like your videos, but this one I feel like you, uh what's a good way to put this, "fill in the blanks" confidently a lot, and on stuff that seemingly has no evidence at all. And I disagree with your theories of Placudisax and his situation and role in history. But the video quality was much, much better than I have seen you have before, so that's good!
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was trying to create a narrative but it's purely all speculation i dont mean to say anything like it's fact. I prefer to just do mainly speculation but this kinda came together as I was making it
@ladonmccabe Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman I love what you do here, and I love when you speculate. The video quality is so much nicer than prior videos, I can't wait to see what you lay down next, regardless.
@DarknessshadowKGA Жыл бұрын
Teach, the first dragon shown in the vid… WHY THE FUCK WON’T HE DIE!?!
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Lol I fucking feel this
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Also I read that last part in the imperial guard voice from Oblivion
@proudturkey5664 Жыл бұрын
2:24 courage the cowardly dog lol?
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Yeah been on a rewatch lol
@proudturkey5664 Жыл бұрын
Ustice has to be my favorite character
@unyielding.entertainment Жыл бұрын
Uggh, I hate that pronunciation of Placidudax. I bet you hated pronouncing dragon names in Skyrim 😂
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Haha you are correct. I pronounced placidusax a different way in another video I'm just trying out which ones get the least bit of comments about it haha. But yeah the dragons and dragon priests of skyrims names were ridiculous and don't get me started on some of the names in morrowind lol
@unyielding.entertainment Жыл бұрын
@@TheHonoredMadman Pronounce it however you feel, screw the comments lmao, Placidudax, more like Flacidusax. And I agree those dragon priest names were rough, but the Morrowind names were absolutely impossible to pronounce. Also, What in the name of Talos are the dwarves smoking when naming stuff? They need to lay off the Moon Sugar.
@nbmoleminer5051 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👍
@nexemisroguelikes234 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie Most Dragons have the same Attacks and Mechanics mostly just Elemental Changes it kinda sucked I wished they made each dragon more unique on how it engages you in combat really wished it was like that ): maybe in the DLC?
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
Can't have everything my guy
@BigHatLoganGaming Жыл бұрын
yeah it kinda sucks that Borealis only gets a frost roar and ekzykes gets a giant smog cloud, other than the one attack and element swap there's not much to distinguish them
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@BigHatLoganGaming imagine a frost beam variant of comet azure. Or a snowball triple shot
@BigHatLoganGaming Жыл бұрын
@@ThommyofThenn it seems frost dragons are more tied to biting winds like zamor, and not snowfalls. I feel like they could've done more with it though, like the ground slams sending hoarfrost spikes out, ekzykes splattering his rotting blood, etc
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
@@BigHatLoganGaming just spitballing buddy and I agree there could have been any number of varieties or something to make Scarlet Rot/Decay something less than the absolute best choice for dragon incantations.
@Dr_DoomJazz7 ай бұрын
God that mass effect music is so amazing and peaceful
@gygaxthecat2448 Жыл бұрын
good info. just?drink some coffee my dude
@killervic7379 Жыл бұрын
Hello
@TheHonoredMadman Жыл бұрын
Hello killer vic
@swamashijudbedolofritt4448 Жыл бұрын
🫤🫤🤨🤨🧐🧐😑🤔🤔🤔😱😱😨🤯🤯🫥😶🌫️🌚🌚🌝🌞 My face during this video.