But punishments is so deserved that must think twice to do any action on the track. I would glad to return.

@@bumblebity2902 what?

@@TheGerbennos It would be great if they restore 1994 punishments like race bans.

Almost? Pretty sure they were all fired after the Schumacher race. (All the ones who worked there. There are different stewards every race)

@@bumblebity2902 Those were terrible knee-jerk punishments, particularly Irvine's being raised from one race to three on appeal. That was simple tyranny from the FIA, serving no purpose other than to intimidate teams into not questioning any decisions. Irvine and Hakkinen should never have received bans or even punishments of any sort, they were all racing incidents. And while Schumacher may have broken a particular rule, a 5-second penalty was proportionate justice, not a two-race ban.

Minh Đỗ Lê Thành sort of legend, somehow still racing.

Also a legendary F1 driver at complaining to the stewards

Some legend like patrese, massa, eddie irvine and hakinen got a peanalty when they werent famous and driving for bottom teams atm

Savage.

Grosjean IS a legend ! Along with Andrea De Cesaris, the human torpedoes XD

Хасан Чинчири Crashtor lol

Хасан Чинчири honestly how'd he never get banned

@@amnaah653 Because he never took out a 'championship contender'

Calum Bishop Valencia 2012 he took out Hamilton.

@@amnaah653 its a wonder???

I guess you are right

Senna got permanently banned by himself.

@@StefanVeenstra Dark

@@StefanVeenstra oof

@@StefanVeenstra edgy

It's all gone wrong... for Grosjean

Is this you Dan?

@@WolfestoneManor Sadly no. I do hope Grosjean can at least have a decent end to what is probably his last season in F1.

@Arthur Goetzke-Coburn Flipping another driver? Or maybe crashing into his teammate a couple of times? Or perhaps the classic tire burning in the middle of the turn and the middle of the pack.

@Cameron Pollock I'm not one to paint a pretty picture on crap. He just sucks.

So Grosjean WDC 2025? 👀

Or being a rival to Ferrari back in the day ;-)

T Croft yet Mansell got a ban...

@@bandithimself6841 Not saying F can't get a ban just F's rivals seemed to get them much easier. Not sure the FIA could have not given M a ban. The controversy is always on the edges of things that could/not be a ban not those where there is really no choice.

T Croft I guess Ferrari have been given “lesser” penalties I guess you could say, but same applies for merc and we have to get over it eventually

So from what you're implying, Grosjean 2020 championship contender???

Grosjean to be one of the greatest drivers in F1 confirmed.

Am Nah well, he does still 😂

If Grosjean suddenly becomes a F1 WDC contender... Just... prepare the fallout shelters, for the end truly is nigh.

lol

Maldonado crashed into the ban instead and broke it!

@@gezatherton1071 You win the comments section

I think he personally banned the ban!

The officials are frightened to ban him in case he crashes into their hospitality bus whilst they're inside it

He did get a penalty for speeding in the pits whilst serving a penalty for speeding under yellows, that were out for a crash he caused and got a penalty for, didn't he? In Hungary a few years ago?

i remember those times. the drivers stayed out and hoped the teams could argue it out during the races

@@danjo1967 pause at 5:15 that is the dumbest place to put something if you want the driver to see it!

@@chrisdavidson911 you never watched F1 back then did you?

@@danjo1967 rarely missed a race

@@chrisdavidson911 then stop making irrelevant statements

Caldera it was his second start crash that year, after bumping ou Senna in the Pacific GP.

Yup

Shumi was not a bad boy, he used to be a bit reckless

He had a very shakey start as a new driver, and took some time to settle in. A lot of guys on the grid thought he was an unsafe driver.

@@amroge8703 a bit reckless😅😅. Yes that is one way of putting it.

Ragunathan intensifies

Well, Massa wasn't actually *banned*. He got a 10 place penalty on the grid and Sauber decided to replace him with Frentzen in order to avoid the grid penalty... more a team decision than a ban.

Yeah, was his teammate that hit the SC that year...

Yeah and they way other drivers bullied him. He must have felt traumatised enough after Peterson's death.

Not that I agree with what they did, but imagine the outcry from drivers and the public. Like now for example - that's like Grosjean running into someone and killing them on the starting grid. Because of his History, people would be calling for his head. Someone died and they pinned the blame - it's human nature.

James Hunt never forgave Patrese for what happened that day. Murray Walker said that, if you wanted to get him fired up while doing the commentary, you only had to comment on how well Patrese was driving. I think I'm correct in saying that Patrese faced a charge of manslaughter in the Italian court as a result of the incident but was completely exonerated.

No only that, James Hunt went to blame him for the rest of his life.

@@jeremypnet From what I have seen it was Hunt who crashed into Peterson and knocked him off the road. I don't know if that was the case, but if it was, maybe it was a guilty conscience looking for someone else to blame for his friends death.

Hunt was too scared to admit it

Well they probably had a different view of what is racing back then, i mean 4 legendary drivers that raced back then agreed it was patrese's fault

Matthew Gunawan Look it up, they wouldn’t have had access to all the footage and information back then, it was not Patrese’s fault and Hunt supposedly apologised to him years later for being so harsh in the aftermath

Yeah, Hunt really wasn't a nice person.

@@adithyamahesh6961 hunt wasn't scare to admit it, he just not a good person. Fans let it slide bcos he is a legendary driver but he might be the biggest asshole of all sport

Seriously mate, he will never learn.

Stonks

@@ab8jeh At the Belgian GP of 2012, Grosjean shouldn't got a ban. He got hit from behind, which lead him to crash and the pile up. Funny, that all seem to miss that point, the initial hit from behind.

xMattyG1: Lewis turned into me

@@dorientjewoller113 he squeezed Hamilton into the wall leading up to la source. I think it was pretty clear cut to be honest, with the penalty being the culmination of a series of "first lap nutcase" incidents at the time.

Oh god no, that's a shitshow I'm glad wasn't invented until much later.

Is that a request by Hamilton Fans who used Snapchat and played Fortnite a lot?

@@Jimmy-lm2eg Exactly.

You are evil

Just imagine what it would be after the season finale than. I suspect the internet would have been broken.

FIA would have forever lived in fear of Maldonado finding them on the streets where ever they went and crashing into them.

That wasn't technically a race ban, as it was the end of the season. Still ridiculous though.

StuntpilootStef but when he was banned in Suzuka, wasn’t that only the penultimate round? I though Adelaide was the final round? So wouldn’t he have been banned from Australia?

@@tempest20000 I did some more reading because I started to doubt my own memory. I was correct, but for the wrong reason. There were two incidents at Suzuka that resulted in an initial ban. 1989 with Prost and Senna (the one I called ridiculous) was a six month suspended ban. So no ban was served. www.racefans.net/2014/10/22/1989-japanese-grand-prix-flashback/ 1993 where he attacked Irvine was turned into a suspended ban after review. www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-suspended-sentence-for-senna-compromise-reached-over-brazilian-ace-1466628.html In the end, he never missed a grand prix due to a race ban.

Senna was a brute on its own. Seen as a saint for some. But a brute. Prost was much more cleaner driver.

He's banned a lot harder than a mere race, lol.

They were scared that they would meet him somewhere on the streets. In a car.

Maybe because he somehow actually won a race? That's what I was thinking.

lol cause he came close some many times to reaching 12 points on his license

@Ennis Parachki He got banned by Renault lmao

Being a legend doesn't have to be a good thing xD

Schumacher was a danger to anyone in front of him. Guy shoulda been banned for life. So was senna. Being a fucking lunatic doesnt make you a legend.

DaveMcIroy No, the extension of the ban still exists in many sports etc where you can appeal a decision after it had completed. For instance if you get a red card for a terrible challenge, you can get a 3 game ban, however if you argue and claim it wasn't a foul, but it is shown that in reality you were wrong, you'll be banned further. It's basically the governing bodies saying "I know what I'm doing, and if you challenge me and you're wrong, you will be penalized further for opposing me"

@@sanvirmaharaj2365 Yeah, if challenging a decision had no negative consequences whatsoever, everyone would try it.

@@sanvirmaharaj2365 Well even if you're challenging them & you're wrong, you're still going to serve the initial penalty. Challenging a ban isn't harming anyone, there's no point on extending the ban because it's a non-issue.

@@nath1606 Tbh I used to think that as well, and in some situations I agree, but sometimes it can make a difference, in the EPL if your ban is extended to 5 games for example, that's 2 extra games which could be against title contenders. In F1 that might be an extra race where you could've won eg. RB in Mexico. Then it makes a difference.

@@sanvirmaharaj2365 I don't see what difference it makes, challenging the FiA & being wrong is still a non issue anyway. The issue is what they did wrong during a race & they're still getting the penalty for that anyway. It's not as if they're getting the penalty removed if they're wrong.

maFIA.

They tried everything they could to rob Schumacher of the title, really shameful

Ayrton Senna was LITERALLY killed in May 1994, during the San Marino GP at Imola.

@KoivuTheHab I was just making a point

@Roger Dodger I was making a point. Btw, he crashed at 137 mph, but that serves to show just that the steering was awful. But the FIA should've gone and banned the team from competition until they fixed it for adequate safety.

It is possible that he will trigger too many points he will be the next Yuji Ide, then being replaced by Pietro or Callum Ilott or something

I think Ericsson hit us.

Dude Irvine is trash what ure talking about, he literally called himself "2nd best Ferrari driver ever"

There was one race where Vettel rammed into Hamilton under the Safety Car (can't remember the race or the year, but very recent). Vettel got a 10s stop & go. IMHO he should have had a race ban.

@@TheSpotify95 Baku

Now he almost got banned

I think this is about driver bans and not team bans

drivers were free to race though just not in BAR

Didnt hamilton brake test him the first time?

@Joshua Chandra That's why bittorrent and video sharing websites exist.

Well, apart from Imola.

That guy shouldnt even be allowed anywhere near a circuit, seriously

nettur39 he actually got 25 I think but he couldn’t serve the second ban because he got the points in Abu dabi

That played out a little differently than we anticipated...

DJP DJP he has three races to get 3 points. After the Japanese GP points drop off so he would need more than 3 after it. Still very doable and likely considering his incident at monza.

@@Smasher225 Well, i am hoping and praying that nothing happens and he actually wins a race or two. That will shut the fucking press up about his need to retire.

Vettel is slower than his teammate for multiple races now. He wasn't able to compete with Hamilton and Bottas, Leclerc was though. That seems to bother him to the point of him making ridiculous mistakes. Last race the top 3 drove away from him in the first few laps and he ended up spinning. Then he got over laped by hamilton and Leclerc and again couldnt keep up with them after he let them past. Apparently, dudes not on the same level as them anymore and starts to have ego issues.

Pretty sure he wont have a saying in the mather of him driving for ferrari next year if he doesnt pick it up in the last 3 races^^

DJP DJP he won’t win a race or two this year. Looking at the schedule I don’t believe there is a track they can win at. Leclerc is a better driver because Vettel doesn’t handle pressure at all. With Leclerc being the number 1 at Ferrari now Vettel will continue to crack under the pressure.

He was the best dirty driver

If it would be after Raghunathan update, Pastor would be banned for Brazil

To me, it looked like he made a wild hand gesture, and clipped the steering wheel with his left hand.

That wasn't a deliberate hit

It wasn't intentional, he was giving him hand gestures and not controlling his car properly. That's why it's a good idea to have at least one hand on the wheel and pay attention to the road - even great drivers can crash when distracted.

No a 10 second stop go is the harshest penalty before a DSQ, then a ban. It was completely fine

And a damn good indycar driver

Youd get the fucked up pizza pretty quick though

Throws it at you and says it's your fault

“I think Ericsson hit the pizza”

It would actually mean second place remaining vacant. The rest of the field wouldn't move at all.

Ah yes, that makes sense. In this case, their animated graphic showing the cars on the right side moving forward one spot is also incorrect.

Don’t you mean McLaren?

*Cough* Hamilton Lie-Gate *Cough*