Every Fast Charging Standard Explained
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@jayayebee 2 жыл бұрын
USB-PD was a godsend for my charging needs. At this point, I can use the same charger for everything from my Pixel to my tablet to my Switch to my laptop. If only peripherals switched to USB-C already, allowing me toss my micro-USB cables, once and for all.
@redfive02 2 жыл бұрын
There are USB C female to USB micro B male adapters, not sure how good some of them are, or if it's even worth it, but could be better than carrying around loads of cables
@oMega-sm1eg 2 жыл бұрын
To correct a mistake in the video, Samsung Super Fast Charging is actually a variant of USB-PD, and it uses PD PPS 10V 4.5A to reach 45W. It's far, far from proprietary because it's a part of PD protocol. Any PD power adapter with PPS support can fast charge it, though it needs to support 5A output with an e-marker cable to reach the full 45W. My Baseus 100W and Sharge 90W can both activate full power SFC2.0 on my tab s7. While most PD chargers up to 30W can supply their full power to charge a Samsung device.
@jayayebee 2 жыл бұрын
@@redfive02 Those work great, but chargers with more than one USB-C port can be hard to come by. So, most of my chargers still have a USB-A slot, as well as USB-C. I'm looking forward to the eventual upgrades, though.
@jhopkins1515 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely on point. why companies aren't making this the new standard is I really hope we see the day where 30w pb is Is the new standard kind of how 10W it is today
@fabiospringer6328 2 жыл бұрын
Wich charger are you using?
@Alice.59 2 жыл бұрын
short : it's a stupidly over-complicated non standard mess.
@C.r.i.m.s.o.n 2 жыл бұрын
This
@radanju3 2 жыл бұрын
This [2]
@Alice.59 2 жыл бұрын
@@C.r.i.m.s.o.n what ?
@ventilate4267 2 жыл бұрын
This [3]
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
oddly enough, it's becoming a lot more standardized than it used to be. For a while every manufacturer was trying to come up with their own fast charging methods, but through it all Qualcomm QuickCharge and PowerDelivery have become so widely supported that they'll work with pretty much any modern device. It's even part of QuickCharge and USB-PD's standards to support each other, so a PD device can accept a QuickCharge charger and still find a common charging profile, even if it might not be the absolute fastest the device could support.
@melvinwarmpf1264 2 жыл бұрын
What about Xiaomi's 120W charging or HUAWEI's SuperCharge with up to 100W?
@bygoneegowaitingremoval 2 жыл бұрын
nop, they are always treated by LTT like some obscure Chinese brand, but they talk about LG, Motorola and Sony, as if people still own those. It is been years since I have seen somebody actually using a phone from one of this brands.
@finnjacobs 2 жыл бұрын
@@bygoneegowaitingremoval yeah, I'm a bit let down by this video. They also got some things wrong with the warp charge section of this video
@zerokun2655 2 жыл бұрын
I had to to the research myself for Poco, and they use Qualcomm QuickCharge, with my phone, the poco x3 pro, using QuickCharge 3 Idk about those but they might ve quickcharge as well since poco and xiaomi are very close.. No clue about Huawei tho
@melvinwarmpf1264 2 жыл бұрын
@@zerokun2655 For 120W they are definitely using their own tech. HUAWEI uses 6A cables, so it's also not possible that they just adopted another technology.
@ali99_82 2 жыл бұрын
@@bygoneegowaitingremoval i dislike when politics get into videos, its probably because of that
@buchanap 2 жыл бұрын
The good news is that the in-store packaging for all of these increasingly proprietary chargers wont include any of this information!
@danieljensen2626 2 жыл бұрын
And better yet they put the chargers behind glass so you can't even really get a good look at the packaging before picking what to buy...
@khhnator 2 жыл бұрын
well of course they don't
@Leanzazzy Жыл бұрын
If they didn't you wouldn't buy it. That's why you have to look up everything online.
@user-sn9od2cy4v 2 жыл бұрын
Told about Motorola's chargers, but didn't talk about Xiaomi 120W chargers. *Every fast charging standard explained*
@davidyang9902 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I disliked the video for this very reason as well as it's lack of coverage on the voltage of different charge technologies and no mention of any wireless fast charging tech at all
@thesandsofflowingtime 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Xiaomi phone and the 120W chargers are amazing. They only sent me a 67W charger, but it's still great. Also, they talked about fast charging. Xiaomi calls their 120W stuff "hyper charging" and well, they aren't wrong. I can charge my phone from 20% up to 90% in about 10 minutes or so, and it's a very nice thing to have
@JoHo_ 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty darn amazing to have if you're an intensive smartphone user like me
@user-sn9od2cy4v 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesandsofflowingtimebasically just another marketing naming for fast charging
@someone12345 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidyang9902 no need to dislike just ignore the video if you don't agree, don't use your fingers energy on disliking videos 😂😂
@Marco_Onyxheart 2 жыл бұрын
QuickCharge is also pretty easy to implement. I built a dimmable bicycle light that uses it for dimming.
@case_sensitive 2 жыл бұрын
how did you do that? Was it with a breakout board or you made your own pcb and stuff?
@harrytsang1501 2 жыл бұрын
@@case_sensitive there are existing IC (integrated circuit) chips that handles the handshake and protocols. You can get modules of premade PCB or get the IC itself and design your own
@MrFastFox666 2 жыл бұрын
You can do the same with USB PD. Also, I have a battery charger that uses Qualcomm QC
@oMega-sm1eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFastFox666 Yes, and there are soldering irons using PD. It's as easy as slapping on a chip and using the voltage.
@Marco_Onyxheart 2 жыл бұрын
I made the entire thing myself. But there is an Arduino library for QuickCharge 3, so I only needed an Atmega chip and a few resistors. It's pretty easy. And there are also a bunch of pre-made circuits you can get.
@ritzyeow2323 2 жыл бұрын
"If you're still rocking one of those collectibles". I felt that.
@Nicontrast 2 жыл бұрын
Rocking a vintage BlackBerry Passport here. USB C and PD so far away I can't even feel it.
@MarcuStar745XD 2 жыл бұрын
Same, Nokia fanboy over here
@giuseppebistecca2733 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that fucking hurt :(
@adityalaad14 2 жыл бұрын
Same LG G8s here
@vrqu 2 жыл бұрын
LG V20 FTW
@samtherat6 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all missed the fastest charging method supported by all phones, just grabbing the live AC wires from your wall and sticking them in your phone for a sweet 1800W fast charging experience.
@RadioactiveBlueberry 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't work for me, looks like it overcharged
@p1mrx 2 жыл бұрын
Time to replace USB-C with J1772.
@jaccurtis5789 2 жыл бұрын
Cool it unlocked fireworks mode on my phone! Still hasn’t turned back on since though.
@myselfshubhamrana 2 жыл бұрын
You all are joking, but I seriously saw a man blowing up his phone when his charger went bad. He was too stupid to know about currents and AC/DC and thought the plug was unnecessarily large and companies just do it to fool us. He simply cut the charger part and put it directly into wall socket. And in an other instance, he tried checking LPG cylinder for leakage by lighting a match around it. Surprisingly for me, the man is still alive. I try my utmost to avoid him.
@AuXXKeyz 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the ol live wire method , i charged my phone to 600% in 2 minutes
@Steamrick 2 жыл бұрын
Linus forgot to mention that any USB-C charger you buy should include the PPS (Programmable Power Supply) optional standard for maximum compatibility with devices. All 'better' chargers do support it, but you never know unless you double-check. Also, most phones tend to be at least somewhat compatible with USB-C PD even if they don't support the maximum proprietary solution speed using it.
@kazaakas Жыл бұрын
Yes, importantly, PPS is optional for PD2.0, but mandatory on PD3.0 and higher. That's actually the only difference between PD2.0 and PD3.0. Because QC4+ is backward compatible with PD3.0, it also includes PPS
@Steamrick Жыл бұрын
@@kazaakas Good to know, thanks
@Leanzazzy Жыл бұрын
PPS comes with USB Power Delivery 3 and higher. Qualcomm already created INOV (Intelligent Negotiation of Voltage) for QC3 which basically uses 3.6V to 20V in increments of 20mV. PPS is basically PD playing catch-up.
@noahluppe 2 жыл бұрын
when motorola wasn't on the list for Qualcomm i just thought "huh, too bad it's apparently not as noteworthy as LG" and when it was brought up as their own standard ", i would have bet it was turbo charging with a qualcomm adapter". but alright, they didn't just call it turbo charging but made their own derived standard, that's good to know.
@Psychx_ 2 жыл бұрын
My old Moto Z Griffin works just fine with the 33W POCO charger from my new phone AND charges faster than with the 15W turbo charge power adapter it came with. So Motorola might call it differently, but ultimately it's still just plain ol' "Qualcomm Quick Charge".
@noahluppe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psychx_ all Moto devices I and my family had worked fine with Qualcomm. And they probably extended the protocol for their phones, but keeping it compatible to plain QC chargers. That's why it is noted as its own category in this vide
@TrigramThunder 2 жыл бұрын
Turbo power is just their name for Quick Charge, I've had Moto G-series Powers for three generations now (Moto g7 power then g8 power then g9 Power) and every normal non motorola fast brick triggers turbopower. Even my Samsung adaptive fast charging brick triggers turbopower on my motorola phones
@pikachu5647 2 жыл бұрын
yes, motorola just renamed the qualcomm quickcharge which was the only fast charging protocol when turbo charge was released, now usb c - pd is the standard and most new devices will implement that since its royalty free.
@Yuki2204 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience in the last month with the motorola edge 20 pro 5g (Fuck why do names keep getting longer) It enables turbo power+ on any charger i've touched including generic power banks, It'll do 80% charge in about 40 minutes at 30W
@Tomm014 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Xiaomi was fastest with 120 watt turbo charger? Edit: I just realized everyone is pointing out that linus didn't include Xiaomi, Huawei etc, even tho the video title is *Every Fast Charging Standard Explained*
@s.i.m.c.a 2 жыл бұрын
it is! My mi 11 ultra can be charged fully in 20 minutes / 85 W charging
@ali99_82 2 жыл бұрын
Western politics are getting into tech videos... Sad
@jr2904 2 жыл бұрын
@@ali99_82 Eastern politics genociding people, sad.
@ali99_82 2 жыл бұрын
@@jr2904 what?
@MrImOriginal 2 жыл бұрын
@@ali99_82 Western people don't like China and I can't exactly blame them. I wouldn't chalk it up to "Western Politics" so much as the CCP being a horrifying modern day fourth Reich
@Yakikitsu 2 жыл бұрын
meanwhile Xiaomi with their 200watt cable and 120watt wireless charge: LMAO CUTE
@GuyFromJupiter 2 жыл бұрын
Wait WHAT?
@awesomegb 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuyFromJupiter they've started working on a 240w charger too and they give both the 120w charger and cable in the box for every one of their phones that supports it
@cesarsf12 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuyFromJupiter Next year it will be on the market but probably only in China
@KeinNiemand 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomegb and of course non of their phones will support the new USB-PD 240W standard or probably no phone at all ever will becouse then they coudn't sell you their propritary charger
@DanishARMA2 2 жыл бұрын
I love to charge my mi 10 ultra i even got the car charger and it connects into my 100 solar panal it takes 15 to 20 minutes to charge it for free
@someone12345 2 жыл бұрын
lol, how funny he didn't talk about xiaomi's charging, Even though it's the fastest at a crazy 120wats, a 5000mah battery from 0 to 100 in 17min
@sedrrkos 2 жыл бұрын
that's because xiaomi "doesn't exist in US and Canada"
@vffbgx616 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedrrkos but his audience are from all over the world not only Canada and us.
@sedrrkos 2 жыл бұрын
@@vffbgx616 yeah, but maybe he didn't think of that, Americans often forget that other countries exist
@mustafapx 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedrrkos best thing i heard this week
@bygoneegowaitingremoval 2 жыл бұрын
@@sedrrkos Xioami becomes the third bigger phone company in sales, but they choose to talk about Motorola, LG, and Sony as if they were real lol. hahaha, It's been years since I have seen somebody actually using a phone from those brands.
@SanDex-V-Felix 2 жыл бұрын
Missing huawei and xiaomi - 108w and 120w wireless , 200w wired charging 😂
@ydfhlx5923 2 жыл бұрын
And SuperVOOC is available outside China, just a 50W variant, and Realme uses 65W Super Dart
@knownnuisance7512 2 жыл бұрын
true lacking video
@Psychx_ 2 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to ruining the non-changable battery on new devices even faster.
@pkjk1255 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting given that the phone in the thumbnail is a mi mix 2 lol
@TrigramThunder 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psychx_ it's inevitable 🤷🏻♂️. until solid state batteries are perfected, every consumer device with a battery will essentially need replacement every 2 years. A chemical battery is by far the least sophisticated and most brute component on a modern high tech device, but sadly it's also extremely necessary
@mustafapx 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Xiaomi 120W charging : Hey linus am i a joke to you ?
@mustafapx 2 жыл бұрын
@chrisily Its not technically out yet so i can understand that but 120 been out for almost 2 years now even budget phones of Xiaomi will have it next year
@charan1551 2 жыл бұрын
What about Xiaomi phones?? They charge even faster at 120 watts
@zexal4974 2 жыл бұрын
thats what im saying, he didnt even talk about the xiaomi mi 11t pro or the new redmi note 11 pro plus
@ikjadoon 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even talk about USB-PD PPS, which all Samsung Galaxy flagships use now. Not to mention QC 5 is literally PPS…don’t think the writers took this episode seriously.
@Vitosi4ek1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zexal4974 From what I undestand, Xiaomi's 120W charging currently only works on one phone (11T Pro) and there's no way to get compatible chargers and cables separately yet since the standard is barely a month old. So the included charger and cable is all you've got for now. Not to mention that the "0-100% in 20 minutes" gimmick doesn't sound too useful. I can't think of a use case where I need my phone charged that quickly and I don't have 2 hours or so to charge it normally. My phone is normally connected to a PC (so, no fast charging of any kind) and the battery always fully replenishes overnight.
@RandomPerson-tz7wk 2 жыл бұрын
Because linus is in Canada. Xiomi brand isn't that mainstream there and this was probably made earlier before 120w became available in NA.
@nicolai9595 2 жыл бұрын
@@simona4294 They are not Americans though 🤫
@epicmap 2 жыл бұрын
1:28 A modern USB-C cable required that should carry at least 60W 3:03 Just a regular 3A USB-C cable is fine. 3A x 20V = 60W. (20V is the highest USB PD voltage). So 60W USB-C cables are also 3 Amps.
@RobiePAX 2 жыл бұрын
3:57 - this part confuses me considering that I'm watching this video right now on Oppo Reno 4 Pro, which I bought and use in Ireland. And it fully supports SuperVOOC 2.0
@Maxzor11 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently were part of China now...
@felipesineta 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that, I own a Find X3 Lite and I'm pretty sure the charger that came with it does SuperVOOC. Not sure if it is 2.0, but boy, it's fast
@prathmeshkapure810 2 жыл бұрын
Works in india too Supervooc 50w I am using right now 🙃
@felipesineta 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to confirm it is the 2.0
@Zenheizer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I am watching with a Realme in Europe right next to my Super VOOC charger lol
@DWreck-gt7yj 2 жыл бұрын
The San Diego Chargers moved to LA and have been known as the Los Angeles Chargers for almost 5 years. The Qualcomm Stadium had it's name changed to SDCCU Stadium about 5 years ago as well, not to mention that it's basically completely demolished anyway. But thanks for the blast from the past, Linus!
@znb684 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying A-L-E-X-A instead of Alexa in the sponsor spot, gets me every time 😭
@eccentricOrange 2 жыл бұрын
What a way to make me rewind to go watch the spot!!
@rakhanreturns 2 жыл бұрын
San Diego person here - Jack "Qualcomm" Murphy Stadium is almost completely torn down at this point. Just ICYMI.
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care much for sports, but I believe that they should retrofit the stadium, instead of destroy it, for other needs (eg. A park, multiple outdoor basketball courts, or any but destroying a 500 million dollar building). What a waste of infrastructure. :(
@rakhanreturns 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyalex2835 I mean, I'm guessing there's some kind of development plan in place, because tearing it down also costs money; even if not, SDSU has to maintain it if it's up. I'm not inclined to speculate when a public records request would tell the details.
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
@@rakhanreturns Yeah. Best for us to wait, until we get news of if new buildings will be built on the original site. :)
@DeerJerky 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you, fellow San Diegan
@rakhanreturns 2 жыл бұрын
Good evening! Nice to meet you too!
@cromefire_ 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, OnePlus' Dash/Warp Charging seems to be just VOOC/SuperVOOC under the hood, OPPO and OnePlus haven been collaborating on it for years now, so I'd expect them to pretty much always be on par, especially with their mostly merger now. I kinda hate that it's proprietary, but it's super fast.
@Pedro7526 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. VOOC = Dash charge, Super VOOC = Warp charge. And they are not really cooperating, they are pretty much the same company.
@-felt 2 жыл бұрын
i couldve sworn my oppo reno 4 5g has super vooc 2.0, and ive had it for about 6months. i guess i could be wrong though, but i believe its 65w. aside from the crazy unreliability, stability, and software slowdowns, its one of the biggest reasons some of my friends changed from iphone 12 to whatever android they saw fit. apples stuck in the charging world of decades gone. one friend iss permanently stuck tethered to a power bank because of how poor the life is on his 12, and doesnt fancy being stuck next to a power point for 3 hours
@Selas81 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna look for at test where they try to mix and match OnePlus and OPPOs chargers/phones when I have the time.
@cromefire_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Selas81 OnePlus has some custom "extensions" to the protocol (according to Wikipedia), so it might not work
@XGD5layer 2 жыл бұрын
Oppo and OnePlus have always been branches of the same company I thought.
@pnwmeditations 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video like this about wireless charging.
@TheDragonfriday 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@anl2191 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Got an old Samsung wireless charging pad from my Galaxy S6.
@fadhil_m3 2 жыл бұрын
as an Indonesian (SEA) this video just looks hilarious and whoever wrote the script didn't bother to research even a bit - SuperVOOC has been officially released as early as January 2019 in my country (on OPPO R17 Pro) - Where is Xiaomi 120W HyperCharge?
@andreadebiasi 2 жыл бұрын
And the Realme Super Dart 65W?
@ventilate4267 2 жыл бұрын
tbf as north Americans, it's hard to keep up with the Chinese phone industry and its relevancy in other countries. Don't forget possible language barriers too.
@fadhil_m3 2 жыл бұрын
@@ventilate4267 then maybe they should not put "Every" in the title if they wouldn't even bother with the superlatives
@inisipisTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@fadhil_m3 - I'm there are countless charging systems that can do better by some unknown makers out there, but then again talking about them is just superfluous.
@TanayGhose 2 жыл бұрын
Food for thought. If there are so many "standards", then none of them are standard
@p1mrx 2 жыл бұрын
USB-PD is the only one not tied to a specific company; vote with your wallet and there can be a standard.
@horaciogirod5684 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been so early for a video, I love these videos. This is the kind of info that never was completely clear. Thanks!!
@CyberPunkSimms 2 жыл бұрын
the video came out 4 minutes ago, you commented that the info was really clear for a 5 minute video. quit like baiting and get out of here!
@virtusetglorie 2 жыл бұрын
@@CyberPunkSimms I think he meant in general, the videos he watches on this channel are usually, if not always; Clear and concise. No need to rip into him about it.
@ak_hoops 2 жыл бұрын
same here! And real talk!
@horaciogirod5684 2 жыл бұрын
@@CyberPunkSimms I understand what you say, I couldn't say that I thought of it while writing, but the fact that I commented is that even before I watch the video I already know that it is going to be satisfying and will answer my questions fully. You don't need to like my video, I hope you dislike it because otherwise I don't understand why are you coming up with this crap
@virtusetglorie 2 жыл бұрын
@@horaciogirod5684 I told him bro. It was unnecessary of him to give you a hard time for your comment like that.
@lak1796 2 жыл бұрын
SuperVOOC is already available outside China, mainly Indonesia. Every Oppo here already shipped with SuperVOOC charger.
@CraigyDizzle 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm in the UK and bought mine over a year ago just from Amazon UK..!
@EpicBunty 2 жыл бұрын
Ive had it in my realme phone for over 3 years and it's great.
@maximaj6106 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir Linus. Finally a wholesome video on all the matter which was overdue. With so many companies and phones getting release every monthly cycles it is getting out of hands to keep tracks of good and bad chargers.
@Sakthivel2542 2 жыл бұрын
3:30 Linus do note vooc dash warp and dart aren't different they're same by oppo and used by realme and OnePlus
@joelrodgers6891 2 жыл бұрын
I hope everyone is doing well
@joshbrookens5226 2 жыл бұрын
I am
@FunningRast 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this
@jasestu 2 жыл бұрын
What about the best charger for battery life? I assume all this quick charging is just going to damage the not-user-replaceable thing faster?
@leophelipot6579 2 жыл бұрын
I've been searching for someone talking about this, but let's face it, apparently nobody cares. All I know is that faster charge usually means hotter battery, so less longevity. Phone batteries last no more than 2 years before slowly losing capacity with standard charging. For myself I'm using a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 for 3 years and a half now and I have lost a bit more than one third of the capacity of the battery, using only 5V 2A chargers. I don't even expect batteries with more than 50W of charge to last more than a year before degrading. What a waste.
@jm.aurelio27 2 жыл бұрын
OPPO's SuperVOOC implementation (50W and 65W) is so well optimized and so fast that it could charge for minutes, it has really saved my time using USB-C
@KeinNiemand 2 жыл бұрын
dosn't mean it's any better then USB-PD witch can do 60W or even up to 100W so in theory achiving the same speed with USB-PD would be possible ut then they can't sell more expensive chargers.
@jm.aurelio27 2 жыл бұрын
@@KeinNiemand The implementation to which OEM fast chargers has custom chips and GaN tech is to reduce heat and make the charging process at full speed, imo the USB-PD is really useful first if your phone supports that kind amount of watts and second you going to buy one of those cables, and lemme tell you, some of the USB-PD chargers are really expensive in some markets. But in my own terms, that those watts is either "possibly" get your phone at full speed or you can use that wattage with the chargers and let your all of devices charge at the same time.
@Elvanion 2 ай бұрын
Would love to see an updated edition.
@devanarayans5131 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks... Much needed video for me
@krtirtho 2 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi: *So other companies need to make proprietary solutions for fast charting yet those are limited to 75-80 Watts?*
@bygoneegowaitingremoval 2 жыл бұрын
limited to 45W with Motorala and Samsung, shame on them.
@jr2904 2 жыл бұрын
Don't support communist authoritarian governments
@joshuaritchie3836 2 жыл бұрын
@@bygoneegowaitingremoval They should be at 750V DC and 1,500amps instead of 75-80 Watts.
@bygoneegowaitingremoval 2 жыл бұрын
@@jr2904 true. But Apple and Samsung had been exposed using child labor. In today's world nobody is clean. Also Xiaomi aside, is never good if brands not improve their products because they have a big market share, so they don't need to be that competitive.
@inisipisTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@bygoneegowaitingremoval - You mean the same labor workforce that the CCP government approve of. Can you support your Child labor story with a real international organizition that document this and not some shady KZfaq video or blogsite.
@aaronrdaniels 2 жыл бұрын
Dang more was hoping for a breakdown of how each standard works on the technical end
@finnjacobs 2 жыл бұрын
Supervooc = warp charge, warp charge ≠ dash charge renamed. Warp charge 30 needs a cable, but any usb c cable can work with the new warp charge 65, and the warp 65 charger also supports usb pd up to 45 watts i believe
@LiamMcBride 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the OnePlus Warp Charge 65 does support USB PD i use it with my laptop at 45w
@michaeljeacock 2 жыл бұрын
well not any cable. I made that mistake. make sure it is at least 5 amp compatible, preferably 6 amp.
@KingdomCastle3 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the ending of the video. I have noticed recently that KZfaq videos don't plan their outros. Nice👍
@mbjrakin2230 2 жыл бұрын
Ahm!! What happend to xiaomi????!!😡😭
@someoneelse7629 2 жыл бұрын
I got the OnePlus, and it was a gamechanger, not only does the battery last a full day even with plenty of use, but plugging it in for the 5 minute car ride (yes I have their car charger) actually makes a meaningful difference. Or if someone calls late at night when the phone is empty(I usually charge over night) and says, I'll pick you up in 15 minutes, get ready we'll go for some beers, I will have a charge that is sufficient for the night when I get out of the shower
@nomiguda 10 ай бұрын
Great examples, I think I'm going to have to buy a quickcharge 4.0 car charger.
@panashemlambo1068 7 ай бұрын
Very informative
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why you didn't mention the difference between PD2 and PD3. For example, Samsung Galaxy devices refuse to accept 25W/45W charging unless it's PowerDelivery 3.0 with PPS, even though a PD2 charger technically supports the same voltage and amperage profiles.
@j_a_a 2 жыл бұрын
Very confusing that a tech outlet would just leave this out.
@islamdz-101 2 жыл бұрын
you forgot xiaomi 120w
@dankmeams1867 2 жыл бұрын
It shocks me that some phones don't come with a charger as standard
@Z3t487 2 жыл бұрын
It shockes me that some people buy smartphones that don't come with a charger. Brainwashed much to pay more to have less.
@williaamlarsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@Z3t487 Yeah, my S21 didn't come with one and my old OnePlus charger would not charge my S21 so had to buy a new charger on the side anyway
@anmolagrawal5358 2 жыл бұрын
2:04 "if you're still rocking one of those *collectibles*" - ouch.
@bsperoz 2 жыл бұрын
3:25 That's what I'm using now. It's freakin' amazing!
@dodekaphilist 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a thing, most news outlets skipped in their reports on the new proposed EU legislation, which would dictate USB type C. But the law also includes a section about wired fast charging and every device (charger and end device) would need to support at least USB PD out of the box so that you don't need a proprietary charger to benefit from quicker charging speeds
@Coolman13355 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that got lost in the shuffle and of course USB4 requires PD signaling. So that'll help too.
@lronmate 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a new phone, this video was made for me
@pepinismaster 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for quick help! This is actually simple to know once you know about it but this totally solved the issues i was having with a few chargers becuase i couldn't really understand why quick charge worked on some and not others. Love these types of videos and know that I can trust you bro!!
@riendutout5190 2 жыл бұрын
"Yes you are seeing things" Wtf how did u do that lmao
@graemejohnson9025 2 жыл бұрын
One thing Linus didn't mention.. using a fast charger reduces the longevity of your battery... My daily driver is a Note9, and I always use a old Samsung charger.. My back up phone is a S7, and it still can do 2 days on a charge.. as it has never been fast charged.. I also have a portable power bank with 5 solar panels.. it trickle charges my phones...
@Raivo_K 2 жыл бұрын
Fast charging in on itself does not reduce battery life. There are several factors that affect battery life more than just using fast charging: 1. Number of charge cycles. The more cycles the more battery degrades. Most batteries can handle hundreds or even thousands of cycles but eventually all degrade. 2. Temperature. If the temperature gets too high it will degrade the battery faster. 3. Try to keep charge levels between 10-90%. Meaning not letting to fully discharge and not charging to 100%. Im always baffled when people claim to use the slow ass 1A charger for battery longetivity. Completely neglecting these 3 points. Besides batteries have become more durable and fast charging that is not done every day, with normal temperatures and not from 0-100% is perfectly safe as far as battery is concerned. Samsung even added option to never charge above (i think it was) 80%. Further limiting damage.
@ammararal 2 жыл бұрын
Laughing with 120 watt charging 😂😂
@Leanzazzy Жыл бұрын
Quick Charge is by far the best universally because it was designed to be cable- and connection-independent. It is the only one that can work with ANY cable (you don't need a special certified cable(because all cables support 3A and QC3 was designed to never use more than 3A, instead they increased the voltage)) and it can work with USB-A (which is literally the oldest and most common port), Micro USB (if you still use it) and USB-C for newer devices whereas all the other standards only work with USB-C and require specialised cables (that support 5A).
@youknowchaney 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u!!
@MyWasteOfTime 2 жыл бұрын
Does your battery last longer if you charge slower?
@christerwiberg1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, fast charging means more heat, heat kills the battery eventually. I still use my old 5 W apple charger and aim for about 80% (not that strict though, but charging while I work so I get it reasonable good.
@Hetotope 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's why Linus caps his wattage while charging
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
higher watts usually means more heat and the lithium polymer cells degrade faster if they get too warm. However, most batteries are designed to handle the heat generated from fast charging and still last at least a year or two. You could get more life out of your phone by not using fast charging, especially when plugging in your phone overnight, but since you're probably going upgrade to a new device long before your battery goes bad, it's not usually an issue.
@aidanely 2 жыл бұрын
Just ignore the Xiaomi 120w phone…that’s brilliant
@jr2904 2 жыл бұрын
It's commie Chinese bs, so yes
@hiimdan662 2 жыл бұрын
@@jr2904 Motorola was bought over Lenovo a Chinese company and yet they covered it bruhh
@BraydenPrice30 8 ай бұрын
2:04 Little did Linus know he would soon enough be "rocking one of those collectables."
@egybecks Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🤟🏻
@Dr.RichardBanks 2 жыл бұрын
Love how apple is at the bottom end devices here 🤣💀
@SnailSlugSlut 2 жыл бұрын
Apple users simply buy a new device when they need to charge.
@Dr.RichardBanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnailSlugSlut 🤣💀
@reddcube 2 жыл бұрын
Next video, Explaining all the weird wireless chargers. Qi, MagSafe, AirFuel. Rezence, Open Dots, and whatever the Apple watch uses.
@NineEyeRon 2 жыл бұрын
Govee is a good shout for a sponsor, well found! I have their stuff and it rocks!
@cignandrea 2 жыл бұрын
Errata corrige: SuperVOOC 2.0 is available in Europe and probably in India too. OPPO now has a large portion of the market here in Italy in just a few years of commercialization.
@cjw1795 2 жыл бұрын
Have had SuperVOOC 2.0 for my OPPO since start of this year and im from the UK so it is available outside of China! Stupid fast charge almost to the point any faster wouldnt be that noticeable to me.
@lexsanderz 2 жыл бұрын
Is Xiaomi a joke to you ? Did you just recommend people to keep the phone in charging overnight ?? YOU ? You're the one who taught me to NEVER charge it past 80% to save longevity!
@JuraIbis 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I've stopped worrying so much anymore, I used to be OCD charge freak but now its just "meh" just plug it in when it needs power and if power drains < 12 hours change your phone.
@tevinkeith6231 2 жыл бұрын
Still can't believe Xiaomi's hyper charge was forgotten 🥱
@samuelhollerud9395 2 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi being slept on
@juanbrits3002 2 жыл бұрын
Especially because their dual charge approach is more unique and currently does 120w
@SoulDuckling126 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanbrits3002 it's phone available on north America i guess, afaik xiaomi only expand to Europe and ngl i prefer same universal standard from USB
@glass1098 2 жыл бұрын
Because it fucks your battery, "Above 80% battery life after 400 charges" is low as fuck
@tevinkeith6231 2 жыл бұрын
@@glass1098 its 800 charge cycles
@VardhanShrivastava 2 жыл бұрын
Oppo's SuperVOOC and all its iterations have been remarkably amazing! Love it. Oppo is always ahead in this space.
@tams805 2 жыл бұрын
The reason others haven't used the same techniques is because using them seriously degrades batteries. They'd be losing too much money covering warranties.
@VardhanShrivastava 2 жыл бұрын
@@tams805 nope 'degrading' batteries myth is very prevalent in the western media. After all the tech advancements and safety features built into SuperVOOC, Oppo is still able to provide reliable 800 charge cycles, which is the industry standard for even slow charging. I my self am using RealMe x2 pro with 5000 mah battery and a 50 watt SuperVOOC charger for almost 2 years now, the battery health is still well above 92-95%.
@inisipisTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@VardhanShrivastava - Nope. Battery degradation is real, specially if you push it to extreme fast charging daily. It's basic electrical engineering and molecular dynamics. For the simple reason all phone makere are still using the old Lithium-ion batteries that hardly ever change for decades. Perhap when new Graphene battery type that Samsung is working on might change things. You're lucky that your unit last two years. Most of the people I know degrade their battery in half by 1 to 2 years. My nephew's new Oppo didn't last 7 months before dying.
@VardhanShrivastava 2 жыл бұрын
@@inisipisTV where did I claim battery degradation isn't real? My point is that fast charging Oppo phones degrade as fast as or as slow as normal slow charging phones. And it's not just my phone, we have 3 different realme phones at home, all of which are going strong. I am still using mine.
@akshitkubadia9249 3 ай бұрын
0to48V - 0to20A auto PPS can cover all proprietary protocols supports
@tro7e 2 жыл бұрын
2:31 nice Inteligent Color Sensing... =)
@ak_hoops 2 жыл бұрын
The ending is how I feel for EVERYONE who get's pressed about quick charging. but great video for real! some good information
@semprocarnage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just tuck my phone every night to charge and I use it the next day, and by midnight it reaches the 15%mark again and repeat
@Legitti 2 жыл бұрын
OnePlus Warp65 charging is so good. 25mins from 0-100%
@GrantZaitchick 2 жыл бұрын
I support the different quick charging options, even though it is not standardized, not for the charging speed, but a lot of them have fixed or are fixing over charging on cell phones. A lot of them have put in stopgaps where if the phone has a close to full battery, they purposely slow down the electricity sent to the phone.
@noahw5887 Жыл бұрын
Dude this has been done for over a decade I think. They usually do regular charging till 80% and do a slow charge after that. Another way to combat a battery degrading is charging it only to 80% or less than 100%.
@NoyeemZaman 2 жыл бұрын
Easter egg at 1:40 Pause the video You can find a hidden message there "Yes,you are seeing things "
@justchilling5126 2 жыл бұрын
Boy, sure was easier when phones came with the right charger in the box, huh? Thanks for that, Apple.
@david13579naranja 2 жыл бұрын
And headsets... The next iPhone will have the screen sold separately from the phone...
@Yashuop 2 жыл бұрын
Claim your “here within an hour” ticket right here
@Qacka 2 жыл бұрын
ok
@couchpotat 2 жыл бұрын
here within 58 sec ticket over here
@giffel979 2 жыл бұрын
ok 2
@dylanboatner2931 2 жыл бұрын
Take the 2 min mark
@Hansolo2048 2 жыл бұрын
No. Why it matters?
@farrelbagus4057 2 жыл бұрын
3:54 here in South East Asia we already got super vooc long ago
@LrrBrr-lb3iw 5 ай бұрын
To the point, thanks
@guenthersiu6002 2 жыл бұрын
There's also Anker's PowerIQ, which seems to have some compatibility with PD and QC if you use version 3.
@rhombo323 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, PowerIQ works with Motorolla QC 3.0 which is based on the Qualcomm 3.0 standard. Used it to Turbocharge a Motorolla work phone.
@ahmadshami5847 2 жыл бұрын
well I don't know if anybody noticed that but when tapping the screen at 1:44 on the white background, there is a hidden message. "Yes you are seeing things". The dark fade of KZfaq makes that message visible message.
@SupremeJudgeDredd 2 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi is like the word's biggest phone manufacturer, so you should have mentioned that they have a handful of devices that charge up at 120w, the Mix 4 fully charges in just 15m. I have one.
@antipainK 2 жыл бұрын
Me charging with 5W charger in order to slow down the battery degrading: "yes, that's interesting"
@ilovefunnyamv2nd 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the "Just plug it in at night" but failed to mention "charging at lower current is better for your long term battery life."
@megasoctopuslegionofcake6248 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, I don't fast charge so my battery life is still OK in 18 months 🙃.
@Anatley 2 жыл бұрын
Never even knew about this and I forgot all of it. It was a lot of info to know and my brain can't.
@RelayCan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I am seeing things!
@lemau8458 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Linus
@neeN57240 2 жыл бұрын
Please companies make this easier! I hate how I have to basically watch an explanation video 5 times before I can buy the right charger for most of my devices and then I'm still only talking about charging rather than things like data transfer and adapter options for your mobile devices through their usb c ports(I am referring to things like if there are specific lanes to carry specific video signals for example as well as what adapters support what kind of usb c connections which is pretty important imo for people like me who wanna be able to charge their device while using a wired keyboard and or mouse and 3.5 mm jack connected device connected using a dongle). With that said thank you lmg for providing us with the video I'm gonna watch 5 times before attempting to buy a new phone charger and cable👍
@BryceLenz Жыл бұрын
1:39 click on side of the video to get the controls to pop up and gray out the screen and the margins of the PCMag webpage say “Yes, you are seeing things.”
@hubertnnn 2 жыл бұрын
Something important to note is the limits of Li-ion batteries. Li-ion only allows charging up to 0.5C, in other words half of battery capacity per hour. Any faster than that and you are damaging the battery reducing its capacity over time or even risking fire hazard. Also most manufacturers suggest to avoid exceeding 0.3C or even 0.2C (5h for full charge) to ensure best battery life.
@disco.jellyfish Жыл бұрын
Xiaomis HyperCharge at 120W on my Phone may be proprietary unfortunately - but it is insanely quick. Even more insane that their new Redmi Note 12 Pro+ Discovery Edition offers mind bending 210W fast charging - almost maxing out, what USB-C currently has to offer (which are 240W).
@nadavgolden 2 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to learn about what happens when I plug incompatible device to a charger, is there a default fallback?
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
USB standards requires some kind of fallback, at minimum 5V/500mA, but if your device at least supports old versions of QuickCharge or PowerDelivery, you can usually expect a minimum of 12W/15W charging.
@bensmith3890 2 жыл бұрын
The default is 5 volts at 0.5 amps. Which is very very slow. It will charge your phone overnight but probably not if you're using it. Most things now can agree on at least 1.0 amp charging speed.
@fabianbahr 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they will then just run at normal USB voltage, so 5V
@cparks872 2 жыл бұрын
Oof, never expected Linus to personally roast my phone choice. I have an LG V60 lol.
@DDRWakaLaka 2 жыл бұрын
ayyy V35 here makes me sad LG is done with phones, I love this and I loved my V20 (RIP at the bottom of the Caribbean sea, buddy)
@cparks872 2 жыл бұрын
@@DDRWakaLaka one of my first phones was an LG, I forget what it was called. Back when we still had physical buttons for keyboards. I killed it going camping in the winter. I haven't had any complaints about this V60 though, it's a good phone with good battery life.
@SilentDecode 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you guys still use the OnePlus 6 in this video. I recently switched from the OP6 to the OP9 and I'm still amazed by how fast it's charging. It's even fast-ish with the OP6 charger.
@oMega-sm1eg 2 жыл бұрын
To correct a mistake in the video, Samsung Super Fast Charging is actually a variant of USB-PD, and it uses PD PPS 10V 4.5A to reach 45W. It's far, far from proprietary because it's a part of PD protocol. Any PD power adapter with PPS support can fast charge it, though it needs to support 5A output with an e-marker cable to reach the full 45W. My Baseus 100W and Sharge 90W can both activate full power SFC2.0 on my tab s7. While most PD chargers up to 30W can supply their full power to charge a Samsung device.
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
Most PD3 PPS chargers don't support the 10V/4.5A profile. The "standard" 45W profile is 9V/5A, so it is somewhat proprietary in the sense that they chose a profile that most PD3 chargers wouldn't implement. It's compliant with the PD3 standard, but not well supported by charger manufacturers.
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
Your 100W/90W chargers probably support 10V profiles, but most chargers have 5V/9V/12V profiles and can't negotiate with Samsung's 10V profile.
@oMega-sm1eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbzgamer72486 No, that 10V 4.5A is the maximum PPS power, not a fixed profile. For example, my Ugreen 20W PD will charge it at 10V 2A because it supports 11V 2A of PPS. My Nubia Cube 30W will charge at 10V 3A because it supports up to 11V 3A. My Ravpower 65w charges it at 5v2a because it has no PPS despite having 5v/9v/12v/20v fixed range, other 65W PD charges it at 10V 3.25A because their PPS range is 5-20V 3.25A while the device can accept up to 10V. The two mentioned above support 5-20V 5A and 4.5A respectively, covering both voltage and current requirements, thus they delivered the full 45W.
@oMega-sm1eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbzgamer72486 PPS stands for Programmable Power Supply, meaning there's no fixed voltage and current at all. Both change dynamically to offload the conversion from the phone to the charger. The max capacity of chargers and phones is listed as PPS rating, if the charger's max voltage and current are both above the device's, it charges at max speed as the charger steps down to fit the phone and change its output on demand, at a step size of 0.2V.
@ldimitrov 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a followup for folding at home and what happened when people donated computing resources at the start of covid last year?
@famoterlhh4993 2 жыл бұрын
VOOC and SuperVOOC is available outside of China, we have the phones and the chargers that can do that in Singapore
@tysongamez1408 2 жыл бұрын
Linus didn't heared about the 120w charging from Xiaomi
@Z3t487 2 жыл бұрын
And they working to support 240W on USB-C. I guess Lie-nus didn't want to humiliate Apple with their 27W.
@LeoLeahy 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had gone more in depth into the compatibility between standards. For example, a Samsung phone that supports 45W charging using Samsung's Super Fast Charging, would said phone be able to charge at these 45W if using a 45W or greater standard USB-PD charger? Cause that's me. Phone came with 15W charger and I want to buy a 45W charger, but if I could get it to work with a third party charger i'd prefer, but I don't want to waste money trying (and there's no real way to verify the wattage(power) being delivered unless you compare chargers side by side).
@LeoLeahy 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Qualcomm QC 4 and up are compatible with PD. How so? Can a PD charger fast charge a QC phone, or is it the other way around? I have more questions now than I had before watching the video 😂😂😂
@dbzgamer72486 2 жыл бұрын
Samsung Super Fast Charging 2.0 (45W) uses a non-standard PD3 profile (10V/4.5W) that is not supported by most PowerDelivery chargers... it is technically compliant with PowerDelivery 3.0, but takes advantage of PPS to request a power profile that most chargers aren't able to process.
@LeoLeahy 2 жыл бұрын
@@dbzgamer72486 Thank you. I'll end up buying samsung's charger just to be safe then. I was considering buying a more powerful charger for future proofing
@LeoLeahy 2 жыл бұрын
But that would be no good if my phone can't get the full 45W it's capable of out of it
@chrisakaschulbus4903 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to know if this ultra quickcharging is going to damage the battery life, capacity or charging cycles. Whenever it comes up about how to use lithion batteries the charging rate is always something mentioned... and just because the device *supports* 50 amps at 12 volts it doesn't mean the battery *likes* it
@GuyFromJupiter 2 жыл бұрын
Warp Charge 65 really is the best. It is not only crazy fast, but it also keeps the phone relatively cool because most of the heat generating components of quick charging are located in the charger rather than the phone. That's why it requires a special cable. Also, OnePlus has Warp50 wireless, which is 50 watt wireless charging that sounds amazing, though sadly it requires a proprietary wireless charger from them that costs $70 and won't fast charge other devices.
@Efreeti 2 жыл бұрын
My 5 year old Huawei P9 even has fast charge, but you didn't mention that technology
@yaseen157 2 жыл бұрын
Lol the voice crack at 4:58
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