Every Mario and Sonic (and Mega Man) DEATH BATTLE! review

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Nemesis Bloodryche

Nemesis Bloodryche

Күн бұрын

Plumbers or Hedgehogs? Which have the better track record of episodes in this show? Given 4 of each are shared between them, uh, I dunno where to take this bit.
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Mario VS Sonic (2011)
2:20 - Eggman VS Wily
4:58 - Luigi VS Tails
9:22 - Donkey Kong VS Knuckles
12:45 - Amy Rose VS Ramona Flowers
15:38 - Metal Sonic VS Zero
18:22 - Mario VS Sonic (2018)
22:58 - Wario VS King Dedede
25:56 - Mega Man VS Astro Boy
31:04 - Mega Man Battle Royale
Bowser VS Ganon/Zelda VS Peach: • Every Legend of Zelda ...
Yoshi VS Riptor: • Every Fighting Game DE...
Yes I know a bird's ass is its cloaca, I'm just curious how many people actually read the description and will comment about me getting it wrong and how many people will bring this part of the description up instead.
I have no idea what happened to my mic at the start of the Mega Man VS Astroboy review btw.

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@TheInzombiac
@TheInzombiac 2 жыл бұрын
Common misconception, king dedede and wario aren't really starting in their super forms. Masked King Dedede is just king dedede with a mask and his electric hammer, his star hammer is arguably more powerful than his electric hammer. And wario man is only really his super form in Super Smash Bros. He doesn't use it really ever in another place that makes it seem like it is more powerful that anything he is already capable of doing. Just want to point that out, I get that they are "iconic" super forms, but they really aren't much more powerful than their base forms. I think that the way the episode made them out to be is less like super forms and more like, disguises.
@vaggos2003
@vaggos2003 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone actually gets it.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I was recently playing the WarioWare series and Wario-Man in that series is literally just Wario in a superhero outfit. It seems like has heightened powers, but that's just his everyday powers. I always say that Wario-Man is just a way to bring in the Wario Land series Wario into the WarioWare series
@kingofhedgy9421
@kingofhedgy9421 2 жыл бұрын
Wario-Man is in the WarioWare Games
@mypaldracunyan1223
@mypaldracunyan1223 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofhedgy9421 Thank you Captain Obvious :)
@fourthhorsemendeath218
@fourthhorsemendeath218 2 жыл бұрын
The Chris Pratt voice clips for Mario vs Sonic 2018 was so perfect
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
He also used Galactic Commanders for Mario Vs Sonic 2011, which is fitting because Chris Pratt.
@xnortheast1106
@xnortheast1106 2 жыл бұрын
No
@xnortheast1106
@xnortheast1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 rh
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Alternate clip Nemesis Bloodryche could've used for Mario Vs Sonic 2018: Do you know what that means, Mario's foot is 12 times more powerful than *super saiyan god super saiyan*.
@sometechydude2324
@sometechydude2324 2 жыл бұрын
I get irrationally angry at Sonic going Hyper then taking out the Mario clones one by one when Hyper has an ability that hits every enemy on the screen
@mushrooman765
@mushrooman765 2 жыл бұрын
Realistically it would only leave one Mario
@Shyguy-3300
@Shyguy-3300 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the blast that the Burst wisp can do in both 3DS versions of Colors and Lost World, aka screen wipes
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
And their excuse for not doing it when someone asked about it is that “it only works on enemies” Yet they say Mario could turn Sonic into Ice or Gold with his power ups that also only work on enemies.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn't annoy me. What does annoy me is that all the clone Marios stand there doing nothing which is basically them letting Sonic kill them, and only one actually thinks.
@sometechydude2324
@sometechydude2324 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 H-How is Mario not an enemy for Sonic in this case?
@mettaton4876
@mettaton4876 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely enjoyed this review, small note though on Amy vs. Ramona. Ramona's sprite is straight from the Scott Pilgrim game, and supposedly she's wearing shorts, so any problems with the sprite is with the game not Death Battle
@StripeSquid
@StripeSquid 2 жыл бұрын
Wario vs Dedede is the only Death Battle so far that I genuinely really wanted and we got, and that, along with my extreme Kirby bias and love of all the weird things they did with the two leads it to be one of my favorite episodes. I do understand why you’d give it a 7, but for me, I’ll always hold it very dearly
@dmcx-tv2308
@dmcx-tv2308 2 жыл бұрын
I think the episode was pretty great. It doesn't really have any mistakes except the scaling is lil sus but Wario vs King Dedede is 9/10
@StripeSquid
@StripeSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmcx-tv2308 I do wish they went into why they put them at universal and multiversal (Dedede especially since a lot of people aren't well aware of Void Termina's reasonings) but besides that, beautiful episode
@BiffWeed
@BiffWeed 2 жыл бұрын
Mega Man vs Astro Boy is the most overhated season 2 episode as far as I’ve seen not gonna lie Wiz. Unless the general consensus has gotten more positive in the last few years without me knowing but I never hear anyone talk about it.
@MasuxAnderson
@MasuxAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know it was hated.
@rosariomontoya7515
@rosariomontoya7515 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasuxAnderson pretty sure it's because astro boy won and a lot people think Megaman should have won.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like talking about people like this but the hate for Megaman vs Astroboy basically stems from the same reasoning as Kirby vs Majin Buu: people thought the outcome was BS. As someone who likes Megaman and barely knows Astro at all, i can still say i enjoy this fight and that i don't care that Megaman lost despite preffering him.
@BiffWeed
@BiffWeed 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmacher3253 weirdly enough most of the criticisms I’ve seen thrown towards the episode are about the animation, but I’ve never heard anyone elaborate beyond “it’s bad, the end.”
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@BiffWeed That is rather weird indeed. The only people i've seen complain about it were Megaman fans who thought he should have won. I never thought the animation for Megs vs Astro was bad at all, and it's especially impressive when you know how fast it was done.
@marcelineabadeer8380
@marcelineabadeer8380 2 жыл бұрын
Nemesis: What? Mario vs Sonic (2018): Now now I know that sounds bad Nemesis: *Starts blasting*
@Name_man
@Name_man 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy that DK vs Knuckles finally gets some recognition as the ridiculous masterpiece it is. They pull off the individual fighting styles of both characters so well, with Knuckles using frequent punches and DK using heavy swings.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still not a big fan of how much they play up Knuckles' supposed stupidity and i think the matchup itself is terrible, but those are my only major complaints i do think the episode is good outside of that.
@Squat2P
@Squat2P 2 жыл бұрын
Same mate
@paavoautio1974
@paavoautio1974 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see more deathbatyles like that or all on out smarting game. Funny all force or all brains fights
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@paavoautio1974 Ironically enough, Knuckles was portrayed as a deceptively clever fighter in the animation for his fight with DK: noticing quickly that his opponent was stronger and taking on an evasive fighting style as a result, taking advantage of being slammed into the ground by using his digging which provided extra cover and even using DK's own strenght against him by weakening the ground as DK was slamming the ground nd then cutting a hole around DK to drop him underground. It's honestly both funny and kinda sad that the animator for that episode seems to have a better understanding of how Knuckles is smarter then he seems then the researchers did.
@kaisernostalgiaseeker142
@kaisernostalgiaseeker142 2 жыл бұрын
@@Squat2P .0o
@hax_m76
@hax_m76 10 ай бұрын
I know this video is like, a year old, but Ramona’s sprite is just based off one of her more memorable outfits throughout the comics (I think a hoodie underneath a bikini or something, idk, it’s been a minute since I read the comics). It’s definitely a weird choice for that design to get a sprite, but it still looks really cool imo. I’m now praying that whenever Scott gets in they don’t give him a custom sprite. Those sprites are too iconic to not use to the point where I’d honestly rather they primarily not use puppet rigging since that usually takes away a ton of the speed and impact in fights imo
@beevstew1896
@beevstew1896 Жыл бұрын
Common misconception about Knuckles. He was never truly stupid, just painfully unaware due to being isolated from society for all his life. He doesn't think in the same way regular people do, being a lot simpler in strategy as it was more effective from his perspective. He's by no means a dumbass, but he has a hard time seeing nuance and coming up with new ideas. He doesn't see the bigger picture in things. You can blame Sonic X and recent media like the newer games and Boom for dumbing him down, but I'm glad that the new Sonic movies are reviving the characters that fell victim to the incessant need to make things comedic, and therefore making the characters damn near stupid or unlikeable.
@tct4593
@tct4593 2 жыл бұрын
I still think they should have done Mario & Luigi vs Sonic & Tails instead of just a rematch between Mario and Sonic imo. Like bust out a few combination moves from the M&L series and Sonic 4 episode 2, also people wouldn't be asking for Luigi vs Tails 2 because that's likely never happening anyway.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh. That's honestly such a good idea. Also, make it sprites instead of Family Guy cut-away gag level animation and character portrayal.
@personalover249
@personalover249 Жыл бұрын
Cartoon Fight Club did it first
@duper4108
@duper4108 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 DK's sprite is basically a edited SonSon sprite from MVC2, that's why there's a ring around DK.
@marcusrimson6330
@marcusrimson6330 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that DK's head was edited on to his sprite
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
Still creepy.
@nagisashingetsu4274
@nagisashingetsu4274 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly wario vs dedede is just so much fun And appetite for greed is personally one of my favorite songs along side reverse rose and chorus of carnage. Also the fact they use wario man and masked dedede as like wrestling personas is so clever and i love the touch. Honestly that and the mega man royal are imo easily the best fights covered in this episode.
@choosbehguy
@choosbehguy Жыл бұрын
As a huge fan of both franchises, I completely agree with Mario vs Sonic 2 not being too great overall. Analysis wise, it’s pretty good, don’t have too many complaints that don’t go into low-balling both characters and saying certain feats don’t count, like Solaris, while saying the Mario cartoons do, which is just weird, but that kinda goes into debating rather than the episode itself. The main issue is the fight itself, where, while Mario is really badly characterised and it sucks to see, I don’t think Sonic’s all that great too. I feel as though Sonic picking a fight with a guy for rightfully tossing him off his deckchair is really weird, Sonic’s a really nice guy, so even him stealing the deckchair in the first place is strange, let alone going straight to murder for it. I also feel the way they have him act during the fight itself is so off, other than maybe the very beginning where he speeds around like he always does. Stuff like him having the Super Emeralds despite them not being a thing since S3&K, and being confirmed to be broken in Mania, and he stops acting as a hit and runner like I expect, and devolves into a dumbass who doesn’t even try to dodge the Mario clones, even though he’s clearly fast enough, and while the two of them fall, he flails his fists around screaming, rather than straight away going for a spin dash, or anything along those lines. Plus, he loses his usual cocky attitude right after the beginning, it’s so weird to see him constantly angry without a single smirk, or dynamic pose, or anything fun at all really, he’s just not fun. Mario’s much worse of course, but they didn’t exactly do either one justice, it just felt like, as basically everyone says, a well animated Dorkly skit, rather than Mario and Sonic fighting, as I feel the first one actually did decently well.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly my main problem with Mario vs. Sonic was, like you said, they made Mario out to be a lot more malicious and a jerk. I mean yeah Sonic did took his spot but Mario is usually nice enough to just let it slide and find somewhere else to sit. What they should've done is done a gag where Sonic constantly tries to take Mario's other spots using his speed saying things like "Whoop! Sorry! Wanted this spot instead!" because Sonic, in character, loves to mess around others. That would've annoyed Mario to the point where it could've lead to the DB.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
If this was SMG4 Mario, it would be acceptable.
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 or if Mario just pulled out the chair from under Sonic with a sigh before putting it back down and laying on it, making it clear he wants Sonic out of his hair but not to hurt him. instead of smashing the backrest over him and violently throwing him off.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe instead, when Sonic says "finders keepers pal", Mario has an uninterested look on his face and picks up Sonic and gently puts him on the ground(Like in Steven Vs Star), and Sonic gets angry as Mario lays on the chair, so the blue blur attacks him with a spin attack, and the fight continues like normal.
@biohazardbin
@biohazardbin 9 ай бұрын
*take
@nathanielamoah1127
@nathanielamoah1127 2 ай бұрын
Why would Sonic mess with him in the first place? It’s not even in character.
@Luigifanboy1123
@Luigifanboy1123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple guy. I see a Nemesis video and I stop everything I'm doing just to watch it.
@Driff97
@Driff97 2 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, Mario vs Sonic 2 was my most wanted matchup after Ratchet vs Jak, but while that episode delivered on what I always wanted as a fan of both franchises, this one.....left me stumped. As weird as it may seem talking from someone who adores the general aesthetic, one of my bigger issues is the hand drawn animation. I like that they wanted to try something different after the myrad of Sprite battles and for being the 100th episode, but like you implied the overall tone of the animation is less Jack vs Afro and more Smokey vs Mcgruff just with adult humor. Also I HATE that half of the powerups Mario used were from Super Mario 3D World. Where's the Super Cape? The Hammer Suit? The Acorn Suit? Oh! The Boulder Mushroom! That is literally a spindash, there could have been an amazing moment where the 2 clash spinning in front of each other. But no, 2 of the 4 powerups from a game released on a console nobody bought. While I rewatch the Playstation 2 mascot battle from beginning to end when I was into the battle, with this one I almost exclusively watch the ending which is genuinley amazing, but one part of a fight that's great doesn't mean it's a great fight. It's very mid to me. Only lowered by the stuff brought up in this video such as Mario's characterization and Sonic getting spitted (FUCK. SONIC. SPITE)
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic's spinball grinding through the boulder and allowing him to get his hands Mario would be awesome.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@floatingf8783 Or heck, how about a scene where Mario uses Cappy to attempt to capture Sonic, but Sonic resists the capture, so Mario decides to capture a T Rex instead.
@nourmallysalty
@nourmallysalty 2 жыл бұрын
them using hypersonic before supersonic doesn’t make sense to me, and hypersonic has the ability to annihilate every enemy on screen. and the fact that sonic died via spin dash when he has pierced shit stronger than titanium. also the ability choices for sonic were weird. just using the rocket wisp from modern sonic games, and then two power ups from the classic sonic games. where is the ancient light? his bounce ball? light speed dash? even his simple boost formula could have changed the tides
@vgamer4993
@vgamer4993 2 жыл бұрын
@@nourmallysalty I’m personally disappointed that they didn’t give Sonic some of his other forms, specifically Darkspine and Excalibur Sonic. There’s actually a decent argument that Excalibur Sonic specifically is just a free win against Mario, since the sword cancels out immortality and can cut through anything (meaning Mario’s invincibility power ups likely couldn’t protect him) and the fact that it’s one of Sonic’s few super forms that isn’t on a time limit so it can’t just be stalled out. Provided that Sonic doesn’t take too many hits, he can keep the golden armor for as long as he wants.
@red5158077
@red5158077 Жыл бұрын
Death Battle wanted Mario to win.
@Driff97
@Driff97 2 жыл бұрын
I know there's like, only 4 or 5 episodes total that would fit, but maybe sometime soon review every Playstation character Death Battle?
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
And we technically got that with Every Non Marvel Or Non DC Comic Death Battle and Every One Off Series Death Battle.
@MysteriousTomJenkins
@MysteriousTomJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I find funny about the brutality of Mario vs Sonic 2 is how it completely contradicts their explanation for the tame death in Weiss vs Mitsuru. Besides the incorrect statement that they don't always do a brutal death, which they more than often have a brutal death, their whole thing of trying to keep the tone of the characters is also bullcrap. So you claim to keep the tone of the characters yet you have Mario tear off skin from Sonic's back, have his hands shredded by Sonic spin dashing into him and the fight ends with his leg falling into Mario's hand? What Mario or Sonic games have you been playing where that happens? Honestly they could have just said they didn't want the Rooster Teeth character to be horribly mutilated or noticeably killed, just be honest. Even with the explanation that its Mitsuru's Astral Finish and that's how it works, the fact we don't even see a body is off. That death was so bad, a Death Battle Reactor didn't even realize the fight had ended. While Weiss vs Mitsuru is the absolute best RWBY episode, that very tame death still leaves me with the belief that they have a RWBY bias, Yang vs Tifa was the origin of that and Blake vs Mikasa only adding to that. Keeping to the tone my ass when you have all these child friendly characters getting brutal deaths but suddenly you get tame or censored deaths or injuries when your own company's characters are the ones at risk.
@user-jl7cz2pe6d
@user-jl7cz2pe6d 2 жыл бұрын
I think the flashbacks in the Wario VS. Dedede battle were to help show that they were just now realizing who they were fighting.
@tuvyamaeir4684
@tuvyamaeir4684 2 жыл бұрын
The Mega Man BR definitely felt like the ending was rushed. They probably needed to do Star Force's death more quickly than he would actually die, and couldn't give him one of his final forms even though they were given to Rock, X, and EXE. The sprites just weren't a thing. How it might have actually gone, Star Force deletes and exits his body as a dead shell, then uses power absorbed from X and the Mother Elf in order to achieve Finalization, Red Joker more likely than Black Ace. Then it would be a clash between that and Hub Style EXE that leads to something similar (Red Gaia Eraser VS whatever EXE did to destroy Nebula Grey) albeit, a lot more wiping out of their surroundings in the process.
@mrme.484
@mrme.484 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all of them kind didn't use their aresonals, but it's a mega man series they are talking about and it's fine. Star Force did use the red gaia eraser with X's body, so at least he used his "best attack" according to death battle. Volnutt got shafted. they only gave him the mega buster. At least one shining laser.
@thesmashor4396
@thesmashor4396 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that Astro Boy vs Mega Man is pretty good, but honestly Mega Man's quote at the end of his analysis being an actual KZfaq Poop really rubs me the wrong way.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
*”And you’re full of Sh%@“*
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the KZfaq Poop?
@thesmashor4396
@thesmashor4396 2 жыл бұрын
@@floatingf8783 idk
@jaxonjaxon1069
@jaxonjaxon1069 2 жыл бұрын
Nemesis just shat on Luigi vs Tails. Thank You.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
I thank him for (somewhat) shitting on Mario vs Sonic 2018. It's extremely overrated and I agree with all his criticism
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbaribeault Same, in addition i also dislike how out of character it feels for Sonic to basically give up and let himself get beat up for a bit between the Mario clones showing up and Sonic going hyper, not even trying to fight back or dodge attacks.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmacher3253 Yeah. Can't believe he didn't point that out
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmacher3253 It's also weird how the Clones didn't even move at all, nor dodge. They were letting Hyper Sonic murder them.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 That part is weird too. It was clearly done to cut corners to have the episode fully hand drawn kinda like the recycled animation during their acsending battle into orbit. Sonic not trying to fight back or dodge attacks from Mario's clones still bothers me more since his home series makes a big deal about how he never gives up no matter what odds are stacked against him, plus even if you're not a Sonic fan and wouldn't know that about him then it's still weird that the character who is known for his super speed (to the point that it's the reason for his name) just stands still and not even try to dodge attacks.
@opalander
@opalander 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish Volnutt got better respect in his fight. He's definitely not winning, but at least have him fire the Shining Lazer, which then would make X and Classic realize he could be a threat and that would lead into his defeat.
@greentoonlink
@greentoonlink 2 жыл бұрын
This. Shining Laser is literally X's final Buster, which Roll Caskett then takes and upgrades it to the point where its fire is a constant beam instead of shots. That alone should at least put it as stronger than anything Classic can throw.
@Pokemonfan612
@Pokemonfan612 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, Luigi vs Tails has probably been one of my least favorite episodes in the whole series, one that I just can't really bring myself to watch. Admittedly, it's mostly because Luigi is a character I have always gotten comfort from, but also yeah he really just gets... destroyed in the animation, it just made me feel like shit while watching it
@SirCap
@SirCap 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda bullshit too since in the rematch, Mario beat Sonic, and Luigi can literally do everything Mario can in terms of powerups, even jumping higher than Mario. If Mario beat Sonic in a rematch, Luigi should beat Tails in one too. EDIT: Not bashing or defending Mario vs Sonic rematch or anything, just my personal opinion
@TacoManX9
@TacoManX9 2 жыл бұрын
They were WAAAY off with Sonic's actual speed in the rematch. Matter of fact, Sonic himself was so heavily gimped in the rematch in general because there's a whole wealth of information they either left out or straight-up got wrong. Then again, they tend to do that with Sonic characters all the time nowadays.
@red5158077
@red5158077 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly they wanted Mario to win the rematch.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
They were WAAAAY off with literally everything in the rematch. On both Mario and Sonic's side of things. I can't afford to care anymore.
@99sonicrocks
@99sonicrocks 2 жыл бұрын
The fact they just wrote off Sonic's showings against foes he faced as Super Sonic in a text box saying "Sonic doesn't scale to final bosses" felt really cheap as well.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@99sonicrocks that’s what pissed me off the most.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@99sonicrocks If they wanted to mention "Sonic doesn't scale to Universal threats", why didn't they just go into a deeper explanation on why he can't scale to them(Its a problem I also have with Wario Vs Dedede)? Like they could've went deeper into detail by saying that Mario also scales to Paper Mario who defeated a similar threat, so Mario and Sonics scaling matches each other. Like for example, I have an analysis on my most wanted SMG4 matchup, Mephiles Vs SMG0: As powerful as SMG0 is, he is nowhere near as strong as Solaris. SMG0 was only able to destroy a universe because he killed the avatar of the universe, so he didn't have enough power to destroy an entire universe yet. Let's say thst if there was a very important piece that holds an entire building, and I break that piece which destroys the entire building. Would that mean I am strong enough to destroy buildings? No. And at best, SMG0 can create one universe, but it requires an avatar, which is Mario. Not to mention, Mephiles has hax. He can just pull a "Time Huh, Thanks For The Tip" and not have to worry because SMG0 can't time travel. Even if you could argue that SMG0 is universal, it pales in comparison to Solaris since he is able to destroy all existing timelines and he exists both in the past, present, and future. SMG0 is impressive, but Mephiles/Solaris is on a whole different level. See, I went into a deeper explanation.
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 2 жыл бұрын
Mario vs. Sonic 2018 was a pretty rigged episode, I'm guessing someone who worked on Death Battle REALLY wanted one where Mario wins.
@red5158077
@red5158077 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@radiccol
@radiccol 2 жыл бұрын
How the fuck is it rigged
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@radiccol They only made this episode just to make Mario win, that should be pretty obvious to see with the lack of feats they gave Sonic. They also said they'll be using canon feats for both, but the OVA isn't canon. Yeah it's pretty rigged.
@radiccol
@radiccol 2 жыл бұрын
@@cirnosnumberfan6449 Bruh they redid the fight because it's been highly requested ever since rematches were allowed. Hell, a part 3 using composites is a really popular fight suggestion as of right now. And they said they'll use any source that doesn't contradict main ones, and the OVA literally gave Sonic his best strength feat so I don't see how that's rigging AGAINST him
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 2 жыл бұрын
@@radiccol There are stronger feats for Sonic out there, they still downplayed him. The episode it's still overall not good.
@davidpescitelli8004
@davidpescitelli8004 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.... I never noticed how much they dropped the ball with Mario and Sonic characters. I also never noticed how trashed Sonic got in the rematch. Now that I think about it though there hasn't really been a great Sonic fight. Sonic vs Flash was fine, but considering how powerful the 2 were and how Amazing Reverse Flash vs Goku Black was, it could have been so much more.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
The only good Sonic fight (at least to me) was the first Sonic vs Mario, mainly cause the animation feels like Mario vs Sonic, both are in character with, the little to barely any dialogue they have (even including that Drowning part in one scene) and on top of that, they used all the abilities and power ups they mentioned in the analysis. *And this was done in Season 1. What the hell happened?*
@davidpescitelli8004
@davidpescitelli8004 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 Ok to be fair that one isn't too bad. It's still one of my personal favorites, but it is still a season 1 episode with all the limitations there. Who knows Sonic is a popular character so we're bound to see another fight with him. Hopefully he's done well... oh and same with Mario hopefully he gets a good one too.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpescitelli8004 even with all the limitations and all the poor animation quality and little to no dialogue in season 1, they made Mario vs Sonic actually look and feel like Mario vs Sonic, yet they completely failed to do that in the rematch. Like, seriously this fight was done in Season 1 yet it’s better than the one in 2018 which is supposed to be a *100TH EPISODE SPECIAL!* like, seriously what the hell happened?
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 Despite me liking Mario Vs Sonic 2018, there is one thing that 2011 has over 2018, and that is music. Both the Mario and Sonic franchises have so much amazing and iconic music tracks, and hearing the iconic tracks you recognize is so good. But then because of copyright, they decided to use random music from audionetwork and custom music tracks. As much as Bowser Vs Ganon is a bad episode, at least they had Bowser and Ganondorf's many themes in their analysis.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 What are your thoughts on the One Minute Melee Mario Vs Sonic?
@blaster.m1943
@blaster.m1943 2 жыл бұрын
16:44 is it just me or that part actually sounds like a meme also i agree with sonic vs mario 2 feeling a bit one sided
@thepotatoking13
@thepotatoking13 2 жыл бұрын
"Only army battle as of writing this review" Wait, was Sigma vs Ultron not an army battle? I know it doesn't really focus on anything more than just those two, so I can see why it wouldn't be considered one I suppose.
@roxaskuzunohaxiii1682
@roxaskuzunohaxiii1682 2 жыл бұрын
Ultron Vs Sigma had snippets of an army fight when the main focus was on Ultron Vs Sigma while Eggman Vs Wily’s main focus IS the army fight with some doctor Vs doctor at the end
@MegaMark500
@MegaMark500 2 жыл бұрын
Steven vs Star has a brief army fight, but Eggman vs Wily has the best one
@phantomfalcon8104
@phantomfalcon8104 2 жыл бұрын
MMBR has a special place in my heart bc it was one of the first eps where I actively did my own research for the ep, I loved going through Battle Network and Star Force
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
Did any of your placements differ from the episode?
@99sonicrocks
@99sonicrocks 2 жыл бұрын
What really dragged down the Metal vs Zero analysis for me was the obvious Sonic downplay when they gave their idea on his speed. I can buy Zero winning with but with them scaling Metal to base Sonic and their idea on how fast he is? Just soured the battle before it even began.
@cassidymiller3224
@cassidymiller3224 2 жыл бұрын
"Our only Army Fight as of Writing this review!" *Sad Ultron vs Sigma sounds*
@makerviewr1cn356
@makerviewr1cn356 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say when you were talking about the sound design, specifically the line "hear this shit", I got an ad. When I was watching I got that line, and heard "nerds".
@castform7
@castform7 2 жыл бұрын
I respect the 7/10 for Dedede vs. Wario but damn this has to be in my top 10 Death Battles. They took my literal favourite fictional character and a character I really like and did exactly what I would want in a DB with them in it. A big, goofy, stupid clash of 2 fat people who like to eat. It also had fart jokes that were actually funny and that's worth at least 1000 bonus points.
@silverkinesis
@silverkinesis 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think Eggman vs Wily's final result would be more reasonable if Metal Sonic just went crazy and pulled a Sonic Heroes on everyone, rather than rely on the Roboenza capsule to do that. I mean, Metal is capable Also wow, you know you're getting old when you remember that Roboenza was considered a relatively new Mega Man item back then. Anyway, as for the Knuckles vs Donkey Kong episode, I really thought that they leaned quite a bit too much on Knuckles being an idiot, especially given that Knuckles isn't actually as dumb as the likes of Sonic Boom make him out to be. A lot of material behind the older Sonic games (besides the games themselves) portrayed Knuckles as gullible, but still decently intelligent and not just some punch happy dumbass. Definitely not one of my favourite portrayals, in my opinion. But that's just me. Obligatory oh no.
@chriss.249
@chriss.249 2 жыл бұрын
An issue i had with the Eggman vs Wily ep is how they excluded the Egg salamander eggman piloted. It could do battle with and beat metal Overlord imo, still giving the W to eggman, although it wouldnt have been as funny
@7-BIT
@7-BIT 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, Knuckles stupidity didn’t bother me all that much in the fight. It takes a more comedic tone which makes some of his actions way more forgivable, and Knuckles displayed a good amount of tactics during the fight. The ANALYSIS however was pretty annoying to sit through at the end. Especially when they say Knuckles has been tricked by Eggman many times, when in cannon it’s only really happened twice.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Consider Madara Vs Eggman. -They both evil, I think. -They both appeared in anime, maybe. -I like Eggman, he's great. Get the reference?
@revolvingworld2676
@revolvingworld2676 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 Is this a reference to the biased bullshit that was the Shadow vs Mewtwo list?
@duper4108
@duper4108 2 жыл бұрын
@@revolvingworld2676 No, it's referencing Bowser vs Aizen
@Capsirus
@Capsirus 2 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds weird, but the music that plays during Astro’s breakdown really fills me with nostalgia. I actually really liked the 2009 movie and it’s music, and hearing it while the hosts were laying down Astro’s 7 powers was a perfect fit.
@venustheanimecat6513
@venustheanimecat6513 2 жыл бұрын
That Wario vs Dedede transition cracks me up every time 😆
@MrDylanMXD
@MrDylanMXD 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Mario Vs Sonic 2 isn't great, I also don't like the fact it's hand drawn. A 3D animation would literally be perfect, portraying the progression of both the characters and death battle as a whole. And I don't like that sonic gets bodied and Mario acts like a parody of himself
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically the SMG4 version of Mario fighting Sonic.
@MrDylanMXD
@MrDylanMXD 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 at least that would be 3D
@speedosound4262
@speedosound4262 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, both Mario and Sonic were way out of character. Like seriously, they should have fought in either of their stages and have power-ups to play out good.
@Zwill1208
@Zwill1208 2 жыл бұрын
Ik you don't care about the victor of fights n all but in Mario vs Sonic 2018 one of their points for why Mario wins was them saying "He could just turn Sonic into Ice with the Ice flower or into Gold with the Gold flower" The problem with them saying this was that in the DB cast they were asked, "Hey hyper sonic has a flash attack that kills everything on screen couldnt he just do that to Mario?" then Ben says "Well no because it only works on normal enemies like badniks" but then the Gold and Ice flowers only work on basic enemies like goombas and stuff so within a week after the episode aired they debunked themselves
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, you played yourselves. Also, fairly minor complaint, but they conveniantly left out the fire shield despite probably being the best suited to fight Mario due to making Sonic immune to fire and melting ice on contact.
@TacoManX9
@TacoManX9 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they contradict themselves all the time. And their most egregious error in their research happens within the same episode.
@Bleeperblopper497
@Bleeperblopper497 2 жыл бұрын
If you know he doesn't care about the verdict than shut up
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
Death Battle has contradicted themselves like months or years or seasons later but.....the fact they contradicted themselves a week after they did the episode just shows how terrible their research was with that fight.
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
And Sonic has the Ring Time ability which does basically the same thing as the Gold Flower (could turn Mario into rings) so if that applies, Sonic could do the same thing right back at Mario going by their logic.
@bowserdude5998
@bowserdude5998 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of want to see someone try and cut the audio from Metal vs Zero and redo it with new sfx and voice clips
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@mewmaster93
@mewmaster93 2 жыл бұрын
The Mega Man Battle Royale is definitely one of my favorite sprite animations but probably has one of my least favorite conclusions on deciding the winner and it's a problem that has come up with other series representations since then (IE Star Wars). That being, them giving .EXE manga and anime feats and that being basically the only reason he's able to beat out Geo. Manga, Anime, and Game .EXE are all three completely different characters who just aren't compatible with one another. Hell, two of them aren't even Lan's brother Hub reborn. Not to mention even if you could argue compositing the three versions of .EXE the calculation of him being universe-level doesn't really add up. The internet is it's own beast and just because they depict the setting of the internet with it's own land masses and stuff doesn't mean the whole thing is the size of the universe. At best you could probably imagine the internet data world being a size comparable to the place it originated from, that being Earth at the time of Battle Network whereas once you get to Star Force the internet has grown to be capable of reaching out to far reaches of space, hence how Geo's speed feat works out. Thus Geo far eclipses .EXE on speed and defeat Sirius in the black hole server means he beats .EXE out on strength and durability too. It's a very major gripe for what is honestly a 10/10 episode for me otherwise.
@speedypichu6833
@speedypichu6833 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the video, also the Ramona sprite is taken from Scott pilgrim vs the world the game, so that’s with the sprite’s appearance.
@merchantziro4285
@merchantziro4285 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just wish we got X, Volnutt, EXE, and Geo to return for their own Death Battles alongside the likes of Vent/Aile from Mega Man ZX
@blitz4779
@blitz4779 2 жыл бұрын
X has some good fight ideas, I like Nems idea for X vs Optimus primal I feel exe would fight another digital being or tech based opponent. I'm thinking a Digimon or maybe someone neptunia Only one I've seen for Geo consistently is ben 10 and no, just no Who'd volnutt fight though?
@merchantziro4285
@merchantziro4285 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitz4779 EXE would probably be Agumon, though I have also thought of Yugi Muto and Yami Yugi from Yu-Gi-Oh because that could be interesting, mainly because I like Kaiba vs Chaud for being rivals who are rich and dicks. For Geo, Yugi also works but I do like Yu Narukami from Persona 4 because the power of bonds and their wide elemental powers could be interesting. Volnutt... I've seen Boom Sonic and Batman Beyond, but personally I like Shantae because Half Human Heroes who are treasure hunters and fight technologically advanced pirates with an army of small cute minions.
@geobeatle
@geobeatle Жыл бұрын
​@@blitz4779 I really really want geo vs max steal I originally wanted max steal vs blue Beatle but know I want rex Salazar vs blue Beatle
@nourmallysalty
@nourmallysalty 2 жыл бұрын
idk if you covered this one before but the Shadow vs Vegeta fights still irks me more than the sonic vs mario (2018) fight. it’s just the fact that they use such obscure details to make the other winner fight is ridiculous. like how they factored heavily on shadow’s amnesia for why he lost
@Doctor_Victor_Von_Doom
@Doctor_Victor_Von_Doom Жыл бұрын
Every other mega man: can create black holes and stop time Volnutt: has two girlfriends
@bloodwingdragon6486
@bloodwingdragon6486 2 жыл бұрын
Good rankings man. The two changes I would make are Ramona Vs Amy and Sonic Vs Mario 2 both get a 5 from me, and MM Vs Astro is a 7 (Though that's just bias talking as a MM fan)
@FumanyuX
@FumanyuX 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that 10/10 You cool man
@mypaldracunyan1223
@mypaldracunyan1223 2 жыл бұрын
To answer your question about Ramona's sprite, her sprite comes from 'Scott Pilgrim vs The World: The Game'. That's why Ramona doesn't wear any pants at all, hope that helps!
@BBlader
@BBlader 2 жыл бұрын
“But hey, sometimes it's worth spending the energy to *PLOW a robo-chick so hard*, it levels an entire city!" The freaking triumphant orchestral Astro Boy movie music playing behind it made it even better. Thank you for reminding me of that beautiful line. xD
@supersaiyantravis6962
@supersaiyantravis6962 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone gave Mario vs Sonic 2018 a little flack. I definitely prefer the first one specifically on the fight animation. Comparing it to an edgy newgrounds animation seems about right imho and the big thing that annoyed me personally was how they specifically had a mistake in this one that the first fight went out of it's way to address. That being Starman lasting as long as one of Sonic's Super forms. With how they had Mario blow through 3 of his strongest defensive power ups to stonewall Super Sonic and get him on the back foot in the first fight that really stands out to me.
@TacoManX9
@TacoManX9 2 жыл бұрын
I've said this before, but they got Sonic's speed completely wrong and then disproved their own reasoning... in the span of 2 minutes
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
@@TacoManX9 how?
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
It especially sucks because Metal Mario's additional weight and inability to fly could have been used for a sequence where Metal Mario grabs Hyper Sonic as he plummets back to earth, taking the hedgehog with him as they fall through the atmosphere. Although we wouldn't have gotten that amazing Mario "WAAAAAAAAH" lineread. Fuckin' love that line. Mario's need to chain invincibility power-ups could have lead to Hyper Sonic getting a super impactful hit after the Starman wore off, either a massive punch to the belly that made Mario cough up blood or even tearing off a limb. Hell, Hyper Sonic could even seperate Mario from his next invincibility power-up, forcing him to use a different one to make him intangibile like the Vanish Cap or Boo Shroom (if it was dark) to get past Hyper Sonic and reclaim it.
@TacoManX9
@TacoManX9 2 жыл бұрын
@@floatingf8783 They claim that Sonic has yet to prove that he's faster than light without additional equipment... only to literally prove that (by their own logic) he's at least nine times faster than light-speed while still insisting he isn't. Again, in the span of 2 minutes.
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
@@TacoManX9 tell me how they prove it.
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
Well, SOMEBODY thinks Bowser vs Eggman's gonna be in Season 9.
@pippo17173
@pippo17173 2 жыл бұрын
They need to treat it like Ultron vs sigma and have the army fight in the background with the two interacting it.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@pippo17173 Maybe the fight can start with Bowser and Eggman duking it out in Bowsers flying castle or Eggmans airship/Death Egg where Bowser is in his base form and Eggman is in his Death Egg Robot. And Bowser knocks Eggman out of the arena they were fighting in and land in a city where they send their entire army to fight, and Bowser now uses his Giga Bowser form and Eggman uses his Egg Dragoon. Also, Bowser Vs Eggman should definitely be 5-6 minutes long.
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 no. Bowser should get his hands on a Chaos Emerald and Eggman comes to take it, that way we can have Eggman think he used Chaos Control when he teleports (that's a power from his second battle in Mario 64). The Chaos Emerald can become a Chekov's Gun with Metal Sonic using it to power up like in Eggman vs Wily. Also, totally unrelated to the set-up, but I want one of the Koopalings to die in the army battle (not Jr because he logically would have a Dry form so he's a lot harder to kill and we need some kind of corpse) and Bowser utterly lose it, activating the Fury status.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly hate that matchup. Bowser vs Eggman really doesn’t work for me. You got a guy who can turn gigantic and fight on his own without any mechs and is also a dragon, against a guy who uses mechs all the time and can’t fight physically (unless you count those few times where he either beat the shit out of other stuff but, that isn’t much) and is only Human (but isn’t as durable as one cause Eggman survives nearly everything for some fucking reason)
@EmperorRaidou6846
@EmperorRaidou6846 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 Why?
@kirbonicpikmin8809
@kirbonicpikmin8809 2 жыл бұрын
Mario vs Sonic 2 is unironically one of my least favorite episodes in the series, probably a bottom 3 choice. I hate the characterization of both characters. Mario acts more like he's from fucking Racist Mario than canon Mario, one of the easiest personalities to get right imaginable, I like almost none of his line deliveries, almost none of his jokes, nothing hits, he doesn't feel like Mario. While Sonic acts like a fucking punk the entire fight, he gets bodied the entire time, basically all his hits are no sold, he's depicted as if he has no fucking idea what he's doing or how to fight with weak, pathetic looking swings, like speed is the ONLY thing he has, he basically gets bullied so hard to the point it feels like a spite fight, and when the Sonic series has a history of spite related fights, what's supposed to be this big Death Battle celebration ALSO feeling like one straight up fucking sucks, same thing, he just doesn't feel like Sonic. It also just feels like buckets of lost potential. One of the biggest reasons for this runback is due to how new games have added significantly more feats and abilities, but honestly, very little new info seems to have made any difference in the fight at all, and even less in the animation. Sonic gets one new powerup, the Flame Wisp, and has Super Sonic swapped out with Hyper Sonic. Mario comparatively gets some more, with the Cat Suit, Double Cherry, and Winged Cap. Ultimately though, it still feels like massive missed potential. The original fight used way more abilities in comparison, and honestly, was more dynamic and interesting in how they clashed with one another. Finally, the animation itself, I just dislike. On top of being only like, a little over 2 minutes long, but somehow feeling shorter, It looks like a shitty Family Guy episode, almost no hits in the entire animation have any impact, Sonic gets almost no chances to do anything all fight with Mario essentially dominates the entire time, Sonic literally GIVES UP at one point during the flurry of cats, when instead he could've done literally anything else, or even tried to counter it with his own powerups, which just isn't in character at all. Besides being a shitty section that, as you said, looks like it was made by an old Sonic hater from 2004, causes Sonic to be forced to jump past his Super Form into his strongest form right then and there, about a minute into the fight. THIS is what causes Sonic to activate his strongest form, getting tossed around between a few cats. From there the Super Form clash happens and it somehow manages to A. Make Sonic look even more pathetic by just swinging wildly, something he wouldn't do B. manages to be one of the least interesting and boring final clash we've ever seen, with almost no impact, two characters repeating the same low impact attack animations on cycle multiple times for like 10 seconds, which leads to the moon cracking, and for what's supposed to be the big climactic clash of the episode, this feels incredibly limp. The fight ends with again, Sonic acting like a skill-less punk and getting btfo'd, and Mario killing Sonic with perhaps the most unfunny, cringeworthy, insulting joke I could've chosen in that instance, which somehow made this overall fight go from feeling like a fucking disappointment to a fucking insult. I won't get into complaining about the research since almost nobody here actually cares about the Vs Debating end of things, but I've never found any of the research or scaling used for Mario or Sonic characters to be good by any quantifiable means, and they frequently leave out things that could affect the MU & stats greatly. While not objectively the worst episode on the show, obviously the shitty celebrity fight is the worst, and Mewtwo vs Shadow is an unfinished, genuine spite match with 0 redeeming qualities, this fight just personally upset me and felt like a goddamn absolute waste of one of my favorite characters and a matchup I actually really like. How did your jank ass crusty ass fight from 2011 end up being better.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you for taking the time to type this out because I didn't have the energy to do the same and I knew that if I simply said I hate the episode without this huge explanation, people would just think I'm so triggered Sonic fanboy.
@EmperorRaidou6846
@EmperorRaidou6846 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbaribeault Why people think you triggered?
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
THANK.....FUCKING....YOU! Took the words right out of my fucking mouth. What makes this episode even worst for me is the fact that Sonic vs Mario was what introduced me to Death Battle in the first place, and to see them do it again and completely ruin what made the original amazing (at least to me) just hurts me. Even the track of the fight in the 100th episode (Retro Rivals) doesn’t feel like Mario vs Sonic (Yeah sure Green Hill’s there, Star power up is there.....anything else? Anything that makes it feel like Mario vs Sonic and not shout in your face that it’s Mario vs Sonic?) that’s not to say the track is awful cause it isn’t, it’s in the middle, but it just doesn’t work.
@EmperorRaidou6846
@EmperorRaidou6846 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 Exactly
@floatingf8783
@floatingf8783 2 жыл бұрын
They actively used Sonic X and didn't bring up Dark Sonic. He'd have been awesome! Imagine if the Chaos Emeralds fell down to earth with Mario and Sonic, and thinking Sonic is about to use them to go Hyper again, Mario shatters the Blue one with the Ultra Hammer. Sonic sees it and realizes he may has permanently lost his ace-in-the-hole, his trump card to save the world, and goes ballistic. Powering up with the energy from the shattered Blue Chaos and his own rage, Sonic turns into Dark Sonic and uses the finisher Mario used in the original episode, swinging Mario by the leg and throwing him down to the beach. When Mario lands he struggles to get back up and ultimately collapses back into the crater, allowing Dark Sonic to start wailing on him, even ripping one half of Mario's mustache off as he backhands him hard enough Mario spits out a tooth and Sonic's gloveprint is left on his cheek. Mario's now taken more visible damage than base form Sonic ever did. Mario throws Dark Sonic off with an uppercut but when their fists actually clash afterwards, their strength is equal. Mario is a little scared by it. Scared enough to use one more power-up: the Ice Flower. Dark Sonic smirks when he sees Ice Mario is healed by his power-up. "You regrew your mustache, eh? Fine then, i'll shave you clean this time!" After a brief fight with the two on even ground, Dark Sonic tries to use the finisher from the 2011 fight but Ice Mario catches the spin ball and freezes it, leaving Dark Sonic open for Ice Mario to shatter him with the Ultra Hammer. We still get the "So long-a, Hedgehog!" line. Immediately after Ice Mario puts away his hammer, the Six Chaos Emeralds finally fall to the beach and he catches the yellow one, doing the victory animation from Super Mario 64 with it in his hand.
@redman8828
@redman8828 2 жыл бұрын
The Ramona sprite is pulled from the Scott Pilgrim game, no idea why they didn’t give her pants in the game though
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, it would've been funnier if Nemesis played Chorus Of Carnage when reviewing Luigi Vs Tails due to the multiple comparisons he makes with that episode and Carnage Vs Lucy.
@door-kun721
@door-kun721 Жыл бұрын
As the #1 hater of Mario vs. Sonic 2 (mostly because i do not like sonic's research), I just...don't think the animation style was really fitting for the matchup, to be honest? Like, I get why, it's the 100th episode and all, but...come on, this was begging for a 3D fight, it's too perfect for the matchup.
@-Hikaru._.Tykon-
@-Hikaru._.Tykon- 2 жыл бұрын
And then there’s Chunky, he’s dead….. HE’S DEAD, CHUNKY’S DEAD HE’S DEAD, CHUNKY’S DEAD
@Tobunari
@Tobunari 2 жыл бұрын
I like the STYLE of Mario Vs Sonic 2018 - but not Mario's attitude at the start or how badly Sonic got shafted. Mario was basically Dorkly-ized and Sonic was a punching bag because Sonic Forces did terrible and it's "popular to hate on Sonic" I think if the animation was done differently to showcase the extent of Mario and Sonic's movesets and personalities it would've been the best episode ever. But I feel like it was done just to give Mario the W while still mocking Sonic. They also deliberately stated that Paper Mario was different from Regular Mario which... Paper Jam may have made that a thing and certainly that would be the case for Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King as the devs stated they made those games precisely due to the art style being paper, the first three Paper Mario games don't over-focus on the fact that the characters are paper outside a few meta gags or gameplay aspects: They could actually exist as stories in the main Mario series unlike the later craft based games.
@red5158077
@red5158077 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what it was they wanted Mario to win and take away Sonic's win out of spite. They seem to hate Sonic and it's clear
@Tobunari
@Tobunari 2 жыл бұрын
@@red5158077 Like I said, the animation doesn't do the fight or the characters justice. Would you still be saying that if the animation treated Sonic better, but still gave him the L due to the results?
@red5158077
@red5158077 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tobunari The rematch wasn't necessary at all. As a 100th episode it doesn't do it justice. That's what the rematches are made for to let the original loser win. They did not have to make Sonic look like a weakling but they did for no real reason. Mario didn't need to be a asshole like he was portrayed here. Sonic has so many ways to actually win. Sonic doesn't flail around wildly he actually fights with skill.
@Tobunari
@Tobunari 2 жыл бұрын
@@red5158077 The data presented still puts Mario at the win more times than not, it's the whole deal with how they portrayed the fight that irked me. Besides, Samus VS Boba Fett still ended with the same result, although that was more of a remake of the fight.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tobunari Samus vs Boba Fett isn't a good example because that's a *REMASTER* and not a *REMATCH*
@Sonic_bro_9000
@Sonic_bro_9000 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few ideas for Mario vs sonic 2 like maybe when sonic jumps out of the water in the bubble shield Mario pulls out his ultra hammer (which they did mention he has) and whacks sonic across the ocean again and uses the ice flower to freeze the ocean solid and when sonic falls into the ocean he uses the frenzy wisp to eat through the ice and he transforms back then uses the fire shield for some kind of speed blitz combo and then Mario freezes sonic solid (kind of like what wiz said in the conclusion) then sonic goes super and Mario pulls out the metal cap and then sonic hits Mario into the air when Mario pulls out the cape feather and a smaller aerial fight happens where they both clash attacks until sonic lands a big hit on Mario which completely shatters his metal form off his body and before sonic spin dashes into Mario time slows to a crawl and then Mario reveals he used his stopwatch to freeze time, after that he places a bomb omb beside sonic and after the explosion sonic becomes hyper sonic and then the whole end of the fight happens.
@innonimate.
@innonimate. 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the Kaiju battle in Wario VS Dedede, I think you should review all of the Godzilla and Power Rangers episodes too.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe when Death Battle makes Destoroyah Vs Iris(His most wanted matchup), Nemesis would review all Godzilla episodes.
@imagominus
@imagominus 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.... you've done SOOOO many reviews at this point.... i think it would make sense to put all the episodes, that remain, in just one video.... or are there still too many for that to happen?
@projectalpha22_va
@projectalpha22_va 2 жыл бұрын
It’d be a lot of work, and takes away potential for more episodes of this series that make more revenue. Even if it was possible, I don’t blame them for milking it, especially since Death Battle is about to go on hiatus until next season.
@thekrakenexperiment280
@thekrakenexperiment280 2 жыл бұрын
I remember really liking Zero Vs Metal Sonic, but looking back I realized that the only part I remembered was the cool stuff at the end with Overlord. Guess I blocked out the rest of the fight cause wow that is pretty bad.
@FoneyBone1
@FoneyBone1 2 жыл бұрын
The Megaman battle royale was great, but why did they use the 16 bit sprites for Classic and X instead of their 32 bit ones that would have fit better alongside the others?
@luigifaniac1312
@luigifaniac1312 Жыл бұрын
Wait, you thought the camera was zooming out from mario in the 2011 DB? Honestly you are the first person I heard that thought that. Cause I didn't when first watching it so long ago.
@billywitchdocter
@billywitchdocter 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to put in during the Hyper Sonic vs Star Mario fight, Sonic's hits do NOTHING to Star Mario, but Star-Mario's hits are doing legitimate damage to Hyper Sonic. Sonic just gets bodied the entire fight and gets nothing to do.
@SkyeTehGM
@SkyeTehGM 2 жыл бұрын
another banger by nemesis bloodryche
@tacozilla2316
@tacozilla2316 2 жыл бұрын
What's the background music called in the megaman vs astorboy analysis
@JayRedGear
@JayRedGear 2 жыл бұрын
Nitpick: Starforce Megaman technically wouldn't be THAT damaged from the combined black-hole since he was capable of walking around the supermassive black-hole, Sagittarius A. And also, the whole "Battle Network Megaman was holding back as well during their first fight" line at the ending results was wrong. The events of Rockman EXE Operate Shooting Star is during the first Battle Network game (sometime after battling Elec Man), so EXE doesn't have all his crazy abilities he would gain later one (he isn't weak, just isn't comparable to Starforce yet). When they fought, EXE was a little out of breath, suggesting he wasn't holding back (and in the context of the story at this point, why would EXE hold back against an unknown and suspicious enemy that could be causing problems around the net and the reason for Roll's disappearance?). Anyways, I agree that EXE wins.
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 2 жыл бұрын
All we need now is PAC-Man to join Death Battle and we’ll have the four horsemen of gaming.
@pippo17173
@pippo17173 2 жыл бұрын
He is so getting luigi by this point.
@7-BIT
@7-BIT 2 жыл бұрын
@@pippo17173 or Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakisho
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D Жыл бұрын
Common fact: Knuckles is not braindead.
@fork3810
@fork3810 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I stopped listening to Nemesis Bloodryche after he said the Oh No joke wasn’t perfect
@redbattle5355
@redbattle5355 2 жыл бұрын
Mega Man Battle Royale is still my favorite Battle Royale episode (for now.... Not really because I hardly doubt another BR episode is going to pass it because it's my third favorite episode of Season 6)
@mr.mister3960
@mr.mister3960 2 жыл бұрын
Metal Sonic VS Zero will forever have the stupidest moment in any DB conclusion. They genuinely make Zero's wincon that he can stop time TWICE AT THE SAME TIME!
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
They don't even bring up if he can resist time stops or not. It made sense when X broke through Classic Megaman's time stop because they specifically brought up in his rundown that he could do that but they never bring that up for Zero. If he can then they should have brought it up and if he can't then that makes the climax of that fight even dumber.
@23mrbee
@23mrbee 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I thought the dumber moment was when they brought up how Metal ramming Zero at full force would only be enough to destroy a building.. when like a minute earlier they scaled Metal to a 200 kiloton feat, which could destroy a whole town.
@Bleeperblopper497
@Bleeperblopper497 2 жыл бұрын
Don't care, Zero > Metal Sonic any day
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
@@23mrbee and not to mention....since this is game Metal Sonic.....who surpasses regular Sonic in base form (given how Sonic never defeats Metal Sonic on his own. Races and Generations don’t count) putting that attack power at even building level is even more dumb. (You mean to tell me that the doctor who is able to conquer the entire world, and blew up the fucking moon, and destroyed several cities or towns.....would rebuild and keep a robot who’s only strong enough to destroy a building?)
@reygoh9944
@reygoh9944 2 жыл бұрын
So, now that Mario, Sonic and Mega Man have their death battles, when's Pac-Man getting one?
@red5158077
@red5158077 2 жыл бұрын
He had a DBX battle against Yoshi but that's a different thing entirely. So yeah he's the only one we need.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Luigi Vs Pac Man is one of his most requested matchups. Hope it has an arcade/8 bit style to it.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh Sonic's characterisation wasn't much better compared to Mario's, especially with him standing still and basically giving up while letting himself get wrecked untill he goes hyper when the Mario clones show up depite his home series always making a big deal about how he never gives up no matter what odds he faces. Just take a look at this cutscene from Sonic and the Black Knight kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nKqjh8d728CdgZc.html (they start fighting at 1:38) and compare the tone and Sonic's characterisation to how he acts in the death battle if you want to get a good feeling of how much that individual db scene pisses me off as a Sonic fan
@nathanielamoah1127
@nathanielamoah1127 2 ай бұрын
Also why was Sonic messing with Mario in the first place? If he was in character he would just left Mario alone and minded his own business. But I guess they needed to shoehorn in an excuse just for the fight to happen.
@reececollins9212
@reececollins9212 2 жыл бұрын
Sucks to see a lot of Sonic Episodes not be great and the only ones I truly loved were Eggman vs Wily, DK vs Knuckles, Wally West vs Archie Sonic and Shadow vs Ryuko.
@callmefleet
@callmefleet 2 жыл бұрын
25:56 I think that's my vote for the best cut away edit on the channel
@sebastianjimenez2240
@sebastianjimenez2240 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how Chris Pratt is going to play as Mario
@megmed8741
@megmed8741 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Mega Man vs Astro Boy but I don't watch it much because Mega's one of my favorite fictional characters ever and I hate seeing him die
@gold571
@gold571 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is that sonic can turn into hyper without ever going super. Hyper is more of an upgrade to the emeralds. Also, I actually find the hyper use nice because hes super underrepresented. He has only appeared in one game.
@thestanman1486
@thestanman1486 2 жыл бұрын
16:43 did they literally use the exact same metal clang sound effect that they use in the death battle intro???
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes they did.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
With a force field.....slamming into a robot....on a street...... *Why??????*
@luigigx1172
@luigigx1172 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hate Luigi vs Tails because Luigi lost but now I hate it for how much they disrespect Luigi as character like they did this just to poke fun of him making it feels like biased towards the other character which just gives you an idea on who the winner will be and it just wrong and don’t even get me started on the fight itself they really did Luigi dirty in that and the radish feat they included at the give me Jotaro vs Kenshiro flash back with Diamond feat which is just why I would have been fine with it if they give both fighters equal respect or had a solid enough explanation but this is just disappointed in so many levels
@aksghazi868
@aksghazi868 2 жыл бұрын
Good boy Nemesis... good boy. EDIT: Also, I love Amy vs Ramona, but I get you're coming from.
@goodpol5022
@goodpol5022 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the straight to Hyper-Sonic transformation, from what I remember in S3&K, Hyper-Sonic actually does replace the super transformation completely once you get all the Super Emeralds. So having Sonic go super to hyper wouldn’t be game accurate. And they couldn’t exclude Hyper-Sonic because then Sonic fans would get pissed and say “I they included Hypersonic Sonic would have destroyed Mario and Death Battle are appeasing the Mario fandom and that’s why it wasn’t included hmph”.
@ProudEdits4U
@ProudEdits4U Жыл бұрын
That final sentence was straight up facts
@idontknowwhatmynameis8525
@idontknowwhatmynameis8525 Жыл бұрын
Wait then shouldn’t they just let sonic use all of his moves for sonic 3 and Knuckles?i mean if your gonna included hyper sonic you might as well include all of his powers ups (Also I do kidda think it was favored towards the Mario fans.I mean,sonic only lad 2 BLOWS to Mario(and you can’t even count the stuff he did in hyper cause Mario was in his star mode which means his invulnerable towards damage))
@goodpol5022
@goodpol5022 Жыл бұрын
@@idontknowwhatmynameis8525 They didn’t use the Sonic 3 and knuckles move because no one really care about that. What people care about is hyper-sonic
@idontknowwhatmynameis8525
@idontknowwhatmynameis8525 Жыл бұрын
@@goodpol5022 wait isn’t that still kidda unfair tho?like I understand hyper is cool but it’s not very fair to limit someone’s powers or abilities
@goodpol5022
@goodpol5022 Жыл бұрын
@@idontknowwhatmynameis8525 Which character are you referring to now?
@tillerman2029
@tillerman2029 2 жыл бұрын
Yo what is the song that plays in the Mario vs Sonic 1 review
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Read the text. It's Galactic Commanders by Brandon Yates.
@epicbanana3669
@epicbanana3669 2 жыл бұрын
Amy vs Ramona got me interested in both Tohou music and Scott Pilgrim, so I personally can't stay mad at it.
@vibecheck841
@vibecheck841 2 жыл бұрын
Tfw Amy vs Ramona is my favorite DB of all time. It's probably the only segment of yours I massively disagree with, but I can see why people just aren't into it
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@daboi8734
@daboi8734 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about Mario vs Sonic 2, Its genuinely one of my top 5 DB episodes of all time.
@alexbaribeault
@alexbaribeault 2 жыл бұрын
I like it too, but I REALLY wouldn't go that far.
@louaidz1929
@louaidz1929 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think death battle will ever do another battle royal death battle
@kwproductions6737
@kwproductions6737 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but I would say is not going to be as big as a scale as the Mega Man Battle Royale but only either 3 or 4 characters so say goodbye to that JoJo's Battle Royale
@rodridante
@rodridante 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention you already reviewed Shadow's episodes.
@nettune9980X
@nettune9980X 2 жыл бұрын
Yo did you know that there were subtitles on the fight in the MegaMan battle royale? Yeah no bull crap. Like the reason there because they want to stay on the building and such. However later the episode get rid of it and something tells me I think guess why. It because when Star force is possessing X he says stuff from “ Goku is not even above planet level.” To “ RWBY is totally not garbage.” . I don’t know and rather not assume stuff. And wish I recorded it in when it happened.
@circumventboredom9463
@circumventboredom9463 2 жыл бұрын
Bring it on, tubby!
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I will never be able to accept the ending of the Mega Man Battle Royal thanks to one sole key point that they glossed over: Lan Hikari was never brought up as a mayor weakness Exe had. If Lan dies then Exe's powers go away.
@maniacgreen8609
@maniacgreen8609 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought starforce was gonna win by hacking his PET
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 8 ай бұрын
We can talk about who the winner in the Mario VS Sonic remake should be all we want, but I have to agree with Nemesis on Mario’s characterization. It really doesn’t feel like Mario’s victory was well-earned, and they probably _were_ taking pages from Matpat’s theory.
@xx_v_xx4373
@xx_v_xx4373 2 жыл бұрын
Personally Mario vs Sonic 2018 would have benefited more from a different animation style imo
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Like a 3D style since both series are long overdue for one(Maybe Bowser Vs Eggman should be 3d).
@lawrence3185
@lawrence3185 2 жыл бұрын
the megaman battle royal is a great episode but poor volnutt dude
@Junior-qe8of
@Junior-qe8of Жыл бұрын
I agree with everything, but... 19:08''one note''? his character depth level is simple, but come on, even if ''nice guy'' represents him very well, it doesn't mean that this is the ONLY trait that defined his ENTIRE personality
@luigifaniac1312
@luigifaniac1312 Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with the Mega Man battle royale opinion. I would've enjoyed it if they didn't do Volnutt dirty. Who so happens to me my favorite Blue Bomber (X is my second favorite).
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 2 жыл бұрын
16:49 that actually sounded pretty good
@7-BIT
@7-BIT 2 жыл бұрын
I personally disagree. The sound effects are way too quiet and fail to sell Zero giving out rapid fire attacks.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 2 жыл бұрын
@@7-BIT I was talking about that specific souls effect, not throughout the fight they were garbage that specific one was actually fitting to me
@openinginawe5518
@openinginawe5518 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I want several of these characters get a runback. Luigi,Tails,Peach and maybe knuckles and DK. Megaman battle Royale is one of my favorite.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
Does DK have any other opponents? Knuckles has Protoman, Crunch or Juggernaut if you want to use Archie Knuckles, but what does DK have?
@rodrigomorales563
@rodrigomorales563 2 жыл бұрын
Add yoshi to that list of characters that should get another chance.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to include Bowser in this list.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
@@robmacher3253 Maybe Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong Vs Banjo and Kazooie?
@rodrigomorales563
@rodrigomorales563 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 hard dk stomp
@ScintillatingSusie
@ScintillatingSusie 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for you I never would've never realized how badly one of my favorite Video Game Protags of all time got bodied in Mario vs Sonic.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed it on my first watch, all Nems' video did for me with that episode is make me remember how painfull itwas for me to sit through.
@darksonicyt5430
@darksonicyt5430 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed it since the sneak peek.
@robmacher3253
@robmacher3253 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksonicyt5430 Yeah, the sneak peek ended right at the point where Sonic was sulking about getting a break as the Mario clones were about to attack him, which is the exact opposite of the never give up attitude that his home series puts so much emphasis on. Not to mention in the full episode that moment is followed up by the worst scene of the episode. It didn't bother me on my first watch of that sneak peek, but a few rewatches later it really showed me how mischaracterized Sonic was.
@turbobist2889
@turbobist2889 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm pretty sure there is another person who realizes how badly one of his/her favorite video game protags got mischaracterized into the SMG4 version of Mario instead of Nintendo's version of Mario.
@ScintillatingSusie
@ScintillatingSusie 2 жыл бұрын
@@turbobist2889 that's really only the beginning part, he is more so in character for the rest of the fight
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