Exactly. To make his mythology and language writing compelling, memorable, and to outlive him.

@Dzsamila # there are infinite number of realities so there is a world with middle earth story

I think that is more common than you think.

@@Slashplite you have an infinite amount of numbers after 1 without ever reaching 2. infinite isn't always infinite.

I love how you show Tolkien created a monotheistic world, and there was a Pantheon. I know a number of Christians who are very upset by this refuse to believe it about Tolkien's writings (of course, they feel the same way about the Bible). It is even more hilarious when non-Christians insist it can't be both (and also about the Bible). As I undterstand it, Ilúvatar personlly intervened to resurrect Gandolf. And this was absolutely the only way anyone could be resurrected in Tolkien's mythology. Gandolf inspires hope? Eh. More like it was Gandolf job to meddle (for good). Perhaps Gandolf the White had a new job description? And I'll risk having a common theme now. Tolkien's change of faith definitely played a role in his mythology. Two examples in paticular are that all 'evil' races could only be perversions of 'good' one or must be adopted. And also that none of the 'evil' races are doomed to serve evil. Also, he made sure that the Uruk-hai showed a number of redeeming qualities including loyalty, selflessness, and thier own brand of honor.

Do not take him for a conjurer of cheap tricks!

@@sternis1 but do take him for a conjuror of cheap drinks, amirite boyys!?

I think you’re talking about my homie, Rad. He knows the path to the mushrooms.

@@MrSmithers 😆

So kinda like Harry Dresden.

makes sense, he is an actual professor regarding this subject it is his job to tell these stories. His lectures are available on youtube if you want to listen more

@@F3dd well my professor can’t keep my attention for 5min and this dude did it for 40min

@@F3dd He'd be a great professor

He's talking about something he knows well and is passionate about

Whoa, same here. I thought this was a 10 minute video

Yeah, people seem to forget that. Also, if a fire breathing dragon could be killed by one man, a flock of eagles would be nothing to Sauron. Plus, the Eagles would have most likely been corrupted and weighed down by the ring the closer they got to Mordor. They probably would have started fighting each other, just like every other creature did.

@@RantingThespian Would they? I mean they're more than just birds; they're spirits that serve the god of the air, or more specifically, Manwë. It also depends on which kind of dragons you mean, they can easily take down fell-beasts (as seen in the battle at the black gate) but I'm not sure if you would consider those dragons or not.

@@ludvig3242 Fellbeasts are not considered dragons, both by J RR Tolkien or Christopher Tolkien. Plus, Smaug was considered the last of the real great dragons. By the end of the third age, the dragons of the Elder Days were over. The lesser ones like Cold Drakes, and other Worms may have survived, but Fellbeasts are not included even in their ranks. They do not have scales, can't talk, had low intelligence,and were more like a bat and featherless bird hybrid. They were raised by Sauron in Mordor just for the Nazgul. Now, as for the ring corrupting the Eagles, keep in mind there is only 1 creature known not to be affected by the ring, Tom Bombadil (and no one knows why). Gandalf wouldn't even touch it because he knew it would corrupt him, and Sarumon was even passively corrupted. It's safe to assume that the Valar were also able to be corrupted. If so, their servants were definitely able to be corrupted. Even Sam was tempted slightly by the ring. Maybe the kindest creature to ever walk Arda was tempted! Lastly, yes the Eagles were servants of Manwe, but like the Valar and Maiar, they were individual creatures and could say no or refuse orders. Gwaihir was reluctant to even take Gandalf in FOTF any further than Rohan. They were even a little annoyed in the Hobbit. Also, a massive volley of arrows, many fellbeasts, trebuchets, and more would hinder the Eagles. They had no protection like Scales or Armor, so a well shot volley of arrows is a massive issue. Yes they were mighty servants of Manwe and were highly intelligent, but their bodies were still flesh and blood, so they could be slain like any other creature in Middle-Earth.

sauron has black air force energy

@@RantingThespian Ah, okay, cool, Thanks for the in-depth response. :D

He has a podcast that's just as good.

Second this.

Search for the Signum University KZfaq channel. You'll find a ton of his stuff.

@The foam Farmer The Tolkien Professor pretty much on every platform or has its own website. Or you can try searching signum University

@The foam Farmer The Tolkien Professor is easily in my top 10 favorite podcasts ever.

Welcome to the glory that is the Tolkien Professor. His podcast is amazing.

Facts

We need more. There alot of things in my head that i want to ask

But for real though.

Hes in the middle of analyzing Lotr paragraph to paragraph and gives an hour and a half lecture about each paragraph

The Blue Wizards: ...

Blue wizards be like ________________ Actually Radagast is more senior than those blue ones

Tom: enternal immortal stoned out his mind hippie

@@matthewmoore4778 that is my version of heavenly afterlife

Lol Gandalf also "took a fall" in the mines of Moria which lead to him becoming an even greater wizard...

Revolutionize a genre and / or create entire genres. I can't imagine there would be a dungeons and dragons with LotR. Fantasy w/out Tolkien feels sparse.

Two of a kind. You can't forget William Shakespeare.

I thought he was just a conjurer of cheap tricks :O

Feels like he did it on accident

The man dedicated most of this life to this mythology and all the books & stories. And when he died, his son Christopher took it on him to edit & release all the unreleased texts including all the letters. He also drew all the maps for his father's books. That's how much time and effort it took.

Saruman was the one carrying the world until he fell to the Shadow.

and the other two wizards found a funny mushroom and went im blue dabadee

What’s a man to a god?

@@Axle-F what is a god to a non believer

​@@squeaky1963 What is a man without God? Nothing. In fact, that's exactly what Nihilism means.

The Tolkien Professor podcast, and Signum University/Mythgard University podcasts and YT channels are glorious. He does have a series that goes a couple chapters at a time through the Hobbit, and a podcast that chapter by chapter goes through the Silmarillion.

@@laurahill9643 Thank you for sharing! I'm gonna check it out

i NEED an episode on the feanorions

Same.

He has the gift of telling complex storys in a way that most people can understand it. Especially Tolkiens universe is complex and full of names and hard to explain, so much that i think Tolkien wouldn´t be able to explain these stories as understandable as Cory does because he has to be really deep in the lore to come up with all that.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ep-ifauTktjaiaM.html

Listening to the audiobook rather than reading the Silmarillion really helps a lot with that.

felt like i was back in english class taking notes on important points and lore lol

Yes! Was looking for this comment:)

Heck yeah dude!

Its not nerding out, its simple information, backed up with canon proof and reasoning in relation to real world historic mythology. Its the same way you would explain science based R and D.

@Юлия Карпенко stop.

The Warrior محارب thats nerding out

You should look up Corey Olsen's podcasts. He's probably over 1000 hours of nerding out about Tolkien. One of his ongoing projects is an in depth reading of the LotR. He's on Session 148, and has made it to the middle of The Council of Elrond. Each session is about 2 hours long.

Look up Signum University channel, there are literally hundreds of hours of this guy talking about Tolkien

@@StoneBlack10 thank you🙏🏽

@@StoneBlack10 thank you🙏🏽

There is a lot more than mentioned here.

@@JohnnyZenith Okay captain obvious.

@The Central Scrutinizer Even more glaringly, he left out the Haradrim and Easterlings- the Men of Darkness. Was this because of the racist tropes involved?

@@sumanadasawijayapala5372 coz they are essentially human

@@yaemiko8571 But at virtually no time did they fight against Morgoth or Sauron. At the end of the Third Age they were Sauron's principal allies and nearly brought down Gondor.

There's loads more than this.

and this is only the surface

Yavanna is afraid for the trees, which cannot defend themselves against all the children of Illuvatar. She begs Manwe for help and is told that Manwe has granted the Eagles, but that her trees are not high enough for them. In the forests will walk the Shepherds of the Trees instead (the Ents). Yavanna initially celebrates the Eagles' arrival but is put in her place by Manwe.

you're right. She goes to Manwe as Olvar cannot defend themselves

Then Yavanna returned to Aulë; and he was in his smithy, pouring molten metal into a mould. 'Eru is bountiful,' she said. 'Now let thy children beware! For there shall walk a power in the forests whose wrath they will arouse at their peril.' She’s so badass!

@@incanusolorin2607 and Aulë replies: my children will still need firewood and continues working.

@@MrChickennugget360 Yeah, his response is pretty badass too. They are a very cool couple.

South Africa has some beautiful tarantula species. Look up Harpactira pulchripes, it's my favorite tarantula that I own.

@@FartBox_BeatBox Same. Mine is only a tiny 2cm bodylenght (3.7cm diagonal legspan) sling (baby spider basically), and she (I hope) is already such a beautifull specimen.

@@FartBox_BeatBox Nope. Nope. Nope. I love all other animals, bugs etc.. but spiders? Soooo much nope. I got bit by a jumping spider on the tip of my finger as a kid (I was trying to pet it cuz it was fuzzy like a Caterpillar) & it hurt so much that it gave me lifelong arachnophobia. Especially with black or dark grey spiders like jumping spiders & wolf spiders. Gives me the heebie jeebies just thinking about it. Any thoughts on how someone could combat their arachnophobia?

@@loriburnip I have to say I hate centipedes more than spiders

Fun fact: oh he saw a spider and that inspired the thought of it??!!! Wow! I wonder what inspired him to write about eagles or horses!Stfu you sound like an idiot

I'm not Welsh but I speak 6 different languages and I have to agree. It is allmost like the languages have a familliarity to them. It just sounds right.

back when i read these, i was in middle school and read somewhere that the elvish language was based on Welsh and Finnish? i think? I've always wanted to learn Welsh since then!

Theres only so many noises you can make with your mouth

Havo dad, Legolas

Sindarin, the language of the Sindarin Elves (Legolas' people) was based on Welsh. Quenya, the language of High Elves like Galadriel is based on Finnish.

He has a PhD (doctorate) in medieval literature, as far as I know.

SnowWarning history, and a lower degree in mythology. Pretty sure he also worked as a journalist too, so he’s like mega smart

he's a tolkien professor, he teach tolkien literature in a real university

This is great! Thanks 🤗

He explained in his other video that Tolkien was very specific in calling them Dwarfs, not Dwarves. FAIL, Wired!

Legolas smirk when Gimli tells him that he got three strands.... Absolutely fantastic!

I doubt this holds any significance and that galadriel gives strands of hair to anyone that asks

@@nick_trains_dogs uh. You're wrong.

@@vicc19 dont feed the troll!

@@vicc19 that's why it's funny🤣

Yeah… I don’t think we can say he is “clearly” anything

Yes it would be difficult to argue with an expert

@@realitynowassigned I’m not saying he is wrong. But this is a topic that Tolkien scholars have been debating for a long time and over long articles and essays, so it is definitely not a ‘clear’ answer.

@@calebklingerman7902 this might shock you. But the expert was definitely right lol. There's no way bombadil can be anything else based on how he's described. He just can't be. He predates everything everyting else.

He is eru iluvatar that is why he does not intervene

ur an idiot

If only he'd had a word processor! He wouldn't have had to write everything out long hand over and over, cut up manuscripts to create edited versions, and then type (or hire someone to type) it all out. Maybe then he'd have published The Silmarillion in his lifetime as he envisioned it.

I'd say prachett is a writer more to aspire to be, tolkien has lore burying you up to the neck but prachett has world and people that live and breath far easier and have more accessible depth

Underrated comment.

I tree what you did there.

@@starcke9071 bad pun, please leaf

Just kidding we should stick to making puns and grow a tree-pun community.

It will be very fruitful.

Here takes this ring, its red.

ngl, I died at that part

Yep same 🤣

Man I’m tryna cook some chicken thighs for dinner and this dude has got me INTO this story

I'm imagining a group of orcs with white lab coats and nerd glasses holding clipboards

That was one of the best things he said. In the Two Towers movie, Suramon says it's a era of industrialization.

Oh wow. Yeah, a full documentary would be amazing!

let's face it: Melkor is to the middle earth what rock and roll was to the '60s

His music is actually described in Simlarillion much like rock/pop/electronic beats in a middle of a classical concert. He was a DJ! :)

I've always liked to imagine Melkor as the guy who wanted to create his own thing and not just listen to the orders. One interesting thing is that we never actually hear what the orcs, or the men serving Melkor and Sauron think about them. Maybe they were actually supporting diversity in other things as well, and they followed them because they thought they were actually the better choise?

....a didgeridoo.

Bet he was a French supporter... his 2010 introduction to the vuvuzela gave his idea to stop the creation.

The Rambunctious Riolu no way, gotta dox urself to prove it

@@riol2_ your dad is amazing.

@@riol2_ Exposing personal information online. It usually occurs with malicious intent unfortunately.

dirty pure FYI not in this case lol, genuinely curious but you probably shouldn’t do it lol

@skeptile He is actually the president of a university that focuses on Tolkien scholarship.

My thought exactly. I’m guessing he took already existing creatures and cross breaded them to make dragons?

So, what disturbed part of Eru's mind did Ungoliant crawl out of?

@@paulraines9635 Well, it's fairly clear, or at least as clear as the Silmarillion ever gets, that Ungoliant was a part of Arda before the Ainur descended. Ungoliant is very much the personification of primal hunger in the world, so the most likely explanation would be that it was a product of the original song being twisted by Melkor and his splinter choir. Not exactly intended, but still the product of Eru

The most likely thing imo is that Morgoth created the bodies of the dragons and put powerful spirits (ainur) into those bodies. We know that ainur in incarnate form can reproduce.

@Sasuke pizza Kitten almost, but not quite. The barrow wights were kings of ancient times that fell in the wars of the north when the witch king destroyed Arnor and founded Angmar, and it is the witch king who gave their ghosts power. Watch the Geek Zone video on this. He does a really good job.

"Yeah, you never really think about how much impact the world around them."

Except the Dwarves. They have no lore, no art, no culture, and no history to speak of. They were created, then thousands of years of silence, then Gimli. That's it.

@@Alizudo Except for Nogrod, which traded with the Noldor in Beleriand, and whose dwarves eventually went on to kill Thingol; Zirak Zigil and Telchar, who forged Nauglamír (Thingol's necklace) and Narsil (Isildur's sword, later reforged into Aragorn's Andúril); Belegost, which was also famous for its craftsmanship and whose lord, Azaghâl, wounded Glaurung, the First Dragon, during the War of the Jewels. Also, the tales about the dwarves in the Lonely Mountain and in Khazad-dûm. The thing is that the Dwarves ended up being something of an analogue of the Jews in Middle-Earth; and like the Jews during most of our history, suffered a lot of prejudice and became insular and clannish as a result. The Dwarves did not even like speaking their own language in front of strangers, and took up nicknames for themselves so as not to reveal their true Khuzdul names to the other races. So naturally comparatively little gets recorded about them compared to Men and Elves, but hardly "thousands of years of silence."

@@wtrmute Between the forging of Narsil and the loss of Khazad-dûm, there is nearly 3,000 years of no word. Yee, they do have SOME history, but you could list every single known achievement of the dwarves on a bulleted list. The elves quite literally required Tolkien to write an entire book just to talk about how awesome and perfect they are.

@@Alizudo Not at all; between the forging of Narsil andthe loss of Khazad-dûm, there is the war between Nargrond and Doriath, then its abandonment, the abandonment of Belegost, then indeed very little before the abandonment of Khazad-dûm. I am not sure whether the Lonely Mountain was colonized before or after the fall of Moria, which might make into this period, or not. But anyway we have very little news of the Second Age in general. Of course, I am ready to agree that we have far more written about the Elves than about the Dwarves; the former are the Firstborn of Ilúvatar, while the latter are merely the children of Aulë. It is impossible to compare the two. That being said, "there is no news of them between the Seven Fathers of the Dwarves and Gimli" is quite the hyperbole, and that is all I am objecting to.

Thanks a lot! I'm huge Lotr nerd 😊.

Colbert said recently that he listen to every episode, now thats a real fan!

It’s really something eh.

Its basically Christianity but on less corrupt themes.

I like the philology, Ainulindalë, Valaquenta, Akalabêth e Quenta Silmarillion.

@@XSilver_WaterX And without anyone actually believing it’s real, which is the biggest turn-off of real life religions lol

Frankly, the mythology behind middle earth and the untold stories are far more interesting than any of the stories that were actually written taking place in middle earth, which is a shame really.

Unless you are into some weird and kinky stuff

Rule 34

@@butchjohnson9736 The only rule is that you don't talk about fight club.

The internet has already thought about it.

mpreg

Honestly I'm just trying to wrap my head around Tolkein's stories and how amazing they all are.

I can't say definitively, but the Woodmen on your map may have been some of the people the goblins were planning to attack when met the wargs and almost captured Bilbo, the dwarves, & Gandalf. Beorn may have been related to the these woodmen, though he was a special case being a were-bear. His descendants ruled over a group of men in the area called Beornings.

@@Erik-um1zn There was a line in there about the goblins thinking that there was "a battle with the woodmen" when the wargs had Bilbo and the dwarves treed.

They were descendants of Gondor's attempted colonisation of Rhovanion.

Tolkien implies the Woodmen are just another people of the overall Northmen that live in the northern and central parts of Rhovanion. The One Ring RPG actually elaborated on them as a smaller but pretty important local culture.

Silmarillion was like the most disappointing book ever. I remember reading LOTR as a youngster and was feenin for more, and it did like nothing to inspire me and make me feel and enrapture me. I guess that’s what happens when you just publish a bunch of crib notes after the author dies, but honestly idk why that book is so hyped up.

@@monsieurcondottiero2685 it’s the Middle Earth bible essentially. I personally would never read it, I loved the world, the not enough to become an Ardaologist

Silmarillon was my favourite book as a kid lol

Oh yeah, I had to power through it for a bit. I learned to read it like a history book instead of a fairytale. I ended up really enjoying it by the time I finished.

I believe the point of that book was for others to read and refer to if they were to make stories within Arda themselves. A Story Masters guide so to speak.

Dave how’d the chicken thighs come out??

I am also cooking chicken and caught up in his presentation

Ája Domonique I mean, I crushed em.

@@ABuffaloDub 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽 im happy they weren't ruined.. the video was very engaging

Same with me now

There's another one. Orcs being corrupted Elves - it mentioned either as a rumor, or was an early version. In final version of the myths they were corrupted humans, or orc-human hybrids. So Saruman's mixing up of Orcs with humans is the second or third mixing up done

He definitely just misspoke, he obviously meant Pelargir. Suprised it made it through editing.

I think he meant Pelargir, but also he could have said it so people who have only seen the movies would understand a little bit more

That’s not an error. Corrupted elves is the published origins story. Other versions of the story, including orc origins as Maiar are up for debate of course.

@@samhunt7113 It is an error. Silmarillion was published by JRR's son Christopher who later admitted he should've never done that. This is the reason why years later he published almost all of the material in the History of ME in 12-13 volumes.

I've become a scholar in just 6 months myself, thank you very much.

What has he got to do with the Simpson?

@@grapefantagd7268 the Greek poet you idiot

@@grapefantagd7268 can't tell if you are being sarcastic

That was a major r/woosh

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p You sure he's the idiot?

Same. If I were to belong to a race of Middle Earth, I would most certainly be a Hobbit.

They are the jolliest of fellows... “hobbit” among many has a modern meaning of complete peace and ignorant bliss. Everyone talks about Valinor but, the shire is where it’s at.

@@zachallan7545 Here's to peace and quiet and good tilled earth 🌻

Gollum would like a word...

Beorn the skin changer. I was thinking the same thing!

the beornings

Beorn

I think that would be included in the "variants of men" thing but yeah would have been nice to be mentioned specifically I think.

Came looking for this comment to make sure I wasn't crazy/missed it

Exactly! I do realize over half an hour of video on KZfaq is already quite the risky bet, but there's so much more to say about Ungoliant 🥰

One of my favorite characters ... and one of my most feared (arachnophobic here). I love how she (most likely) came to her end. Traveling south to the Far Harad desserts, and became so hungry that she ate herself.

Also missed opportunity for Melkor, the original Spider rider.

Yeah, and he should've at least mentioned Shelob by name, considering she was Ungoliant's greatest (and most well-known) offspring...

Tolkien and Lewis were best friends and frequently went on walks brainstorming and discussing their stories, so it makes sense that there are lots off scenes and details that mirror each other. (I love finding the little similarities sprinkled throughout the stories) Also another fun thing I've heard is that the only reason Lewis put the iconic lamp post in his story was because Tolkien told Lewis that a fictional story can't have a lamp post in it. Lewis also based The Professor on Tolkien and Tolkien based Treebeard on Lewis.

It may alludes to how they suppose God created the earth, through song.

@@caroline7420 wait so tolkien's character brought evil in Narnia?

@@adityabhalekar3506 no, not as far as I know. I really don't know enough about middle-earth to know the answer yet.

You may be thinking of Uncle Andrew

I did too, so I took notes for myself to keep everyone straight (it didn't help one family had names that started with the same letter or syllable). It's also why I only read The Silmarillion every other year. Give the noggin a rest.

It’s definitely a harder book to follow. I tend to reread it every now and then. It’s so much fun as things clear up more and more.

The foam Farmer no. Their masters. Their corrupters... Morgoth could not create only corrupt; only Eru Illuvitar can create. Therefore they despise morgoth and later Sauron but are corrupted with a darkness that prevents their disobeying.

Too bad they are all made to be evil worshippers of Malkor

@@hazanaimon6458 Chanting Melkoru Akbah in their little mosques is a bit of a giveaway.

@@hazanaimon6458 Actually, by the end, Tolkien had actually decided that the Blue Wizards were actually successful in convincing the Men of the East and South to rebel against Sauron, enough so that only a part of the full Easterling/Haradrim armies were able to sent West.

But they are all Men (except the Mumakil, of course).

ThePhilosophersGames is a fantastic channel for deep Tolkien lore. Check out his playlist where he goes in depth into all the lore surrounding every scene in the movies (in meticulous detail). He's up to 20 of those videos about half an hour each, and he's only made it to the Weathertop scene in Fellowship of the Ring lol. Good stuff.

@@dirtypure2023 Wow, thanks so much for sharing that!!

@@-laurel Welcome! :)

If you enjoyed this, you've got to check out Professor Olsen's ongoing "Exploring The Lord of the Rings" series. You can catch it live almost every Tuesday on Signum University's twitter, Discord, and Twitch.

Actually, they were created by Eru, after Yavanna complained that the Dwarves would mess up her creations.

Yep, she was worried about her own creations and asked Manwë if the trees could speak for all of the plants and things that grow, and so the Ents were born when the Elves arrived in Arda. In one of my favorite passages in the Silmarillion, she comes up to Aulë and basically goes, ha, now when your dwarves and all the other races cut down my trees they’ll have the wrath of the Ents to deal with! And Aulë answers, “Nonetheless they will have need of wood.” Basically he’s just like, yeah but they’re gonna need wood tho

Beorn is human.

I heard Tom Shippey is on the case

Derek A. Kamal I hope so really bad

Apparently Tom shippy walked out. We dont know details but my gut is telling me that amazon will not do justice to Tolkien

@@biggy-t Totally agree.

@@biggy-t No. it’s not even going to be a remake like your “leave it alone” suggests. It’s a completely different era of middle earth that hasn’t been onscreen for more than a couple of minutes.

Totally, this video is brilliant. And the Inklings basically changed the world by the combination of having fought in WW1, great imagination, intelligence, Christian faith, fascination with languages and mythology and most of all, the ability to be genuinely in awe of something.

Honestly one of my favorite stories ever. It is a must watch/read. But watch Lord of The Rings First

I’m jooking no, read the hobbit first

I am jealous you get to expierence it all for the first time!

Why are you watching this video tho

@@matthewreese7710 he is jooking

Yeah though that was what Morgoth was pretty much lol

YEP morgoth bad >:(

Lmao right

once you've seen 1 shopping center, you've seen a mall

dude...

I'd be lying if I said this didn't make me smile. 🙂

Beorn was NOT the last of his line. His descendants the Beornings guard the Carrock which leads to the High Pass or to Erebor.

Beorn doesn’t really fit with the rest of the Legendarium. It’s one of the many inconsistencies found in The Hobbit, because Bilbo’s journey wasn’t originally part mythology.

ian holm, bilbo baggins sr, is gone, recently

As far as I know, there's an Amazon Prime series in the works, set to cover Numenor.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/everything-we-know-about-the-lord-of-the-rings-amazon-series/

There's also a LOTR game coming out in 2021

If CGP Grey talked slowly.

Same dude

Ayyyy

Concerning Hobbits and other races of Middle Earth: An overview of an overview :D

@@tahirakinci You got deep

@@TheIgisas I can go even deeper

@@tahirakinci Go on then. We are waiting.

That would be quite the treat

colbert is too egotistical and arrogant, he wants all the attention on him like the coke head he is. he always interrupts his guests.

Me: 😏😏😏

Not necessarily

Tolkien called it Atalantë (the Downfallen) in Quenya. Atlantis/Atalantë... coincidence?

@@johanna-hypatiacybeleia2465 ...srsly?

@@user-ix1rp9ff3p Srsly. Read the Silmarillion.

@@johanna-hypatiacybeleia2465 no money and time unfortunately but still thanks for the info