It's so annoying that it exists in 30k (Contemptor-Osiron Dreadnought) but of course GW won't let Chaos have nice things

Then maybe you shouldn’t have turned against the Emperor. You’ll get your generic hellbrute and like it!

I want one with a jump-pack.

I believe Magnus gave Sanguinius the STC for librarian dreadnoughts since Sanguinius was open about being a psyker like magnus and they could relate.

​@Bravadous I thought inwas more to do with the BA are the only ones that still have access to the tech. Like the dark angels and terminator based plasma cannons

The only downside here is, that Eliminators can only run in units of 3, if the could have 6 models, it would be much cooler, with 3 models its a very pricey combo for 3 models hat only shoot

Been running this combo with Las Fusils in the Vanguard detachment to great success. If you play with y’all enough ruins, you can set them up high up and keep them stationary. They won’t be able to be shot at all and if they can be you’re doing something wrong. Plus, with the Strike From the Shadows strategem and the plunging fire rule for ruins, you’re looking at S9, AP-5. Not gonna take out the toughest things in the game but will almost always trade up over the course of the game.

​@Silverdragon83X I run then with Las Fusils and the carbine. 2 36" Meltaguns on effectively a 12" move with lone op and infiltrator is solid damage imo. Not competitive I guess, but I think it's just on the edge. I see them almost as eradicators where you don't need a delivery system to make good use of them.

i do this with my deathwatch in a spectrus kill team.

Did that with the new Anvil Detachment and had some very annoying infiltrated snipers that didn't need to move and couldn't be shot at.

This is something I was thinking of running too. Libby makes the infernus perhaps survivable enough to get 2 rounds of immolation off

I used the Mephiston with assault intercessors combo once. It’s ok but probably not competitive. Mephiston kicks ass though

And some anti psykers are insane. I took down my buddy's Keeper of Secrets in one turn of shooting and melee from my Culexus, the poor daemon melted back to the warp.

​@@pinoarias8601just lore accurate... Probably not a good thing.

No it's not lol

​@@richardserrano7295giving the whole unit lone op is cracked tho?

@@wuoobo3971 It's a great ability for the unit and the synergy is 100% there. It's just an expensive combo. Id rather have two units of 5 for 200 pts than 1 with a lib for 170

You don't get options for "anything" any more. It's why I can not play this shite. House rules for the win.

Fingers crossed for 11th edition

@@bilbostomperlol

@@adriansennett2861 The game is too hard to balance is every unit gets 5+ attack profiles. It sounds like you not playing is a win for the people who'd have to listen to you whine.

​@@crashingatom6755Stop simping for GW, they ain't going to give you a discount

Am I correct that if you roll a 1 you can still use his FNP to mitigate some dmg?

@@livingbox i would say yes, in the Rules Commentary on warhammer community, PG 10, Psychic Attacks, Any mortal wounds inflicted by an ability that has the ‘Psychic’ tag are also Psychic Attacks which is what Sanctic Hood protects against. unless there's another rule that overrides this

With the 4++ from storm shields and tigurius FNP and other buffs it makes for a impressively tanky unit

285pts before enhancements. 210 for 10man spectrus.

Go Blood Ravens!!!!

Hello eldars.

@BloodyArchangelus Hello son of the Emperor, found upon Baal Secundus 🙏🏼

Yeah but you are nobody and your opinion doesn't matter. Perfect!

Don't forget that the wolf guard buff the librarian perfectly, too! He'll smite and shoot on 2+ and his force weapon will also hit on 2+. I've enjoyed the synergy they have a lot.

​@@colinmcdonald5666that's rad. I thought the buffs they had only affected the guard ie the 'give a 4+ invuln to a unit being led' didn't affect the librarian, and it was the same for the +1 hit boost

@@greg_mca Ya it's a pretty important interaction; leaders gain the benefits of abilities that affect the entire unit they are attached to. Some examples: -any leaders attached to thunderwolf cavalry also gain +1 damage on the charge -any leaders attached to bloodclaws also gain +1S and +1A on the charge It's fun looking for some small interactions like that!

I hope they implement it in AoS next edition and it somehow ends up back into 40K next edition. I agree that a psychic phase feels unnecessary. But removing the very idea of physic just feels like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

​@themilo1567 They haven't removed it they've just baked it into the psyker units, which I feel gives them a purpose of buffing a certain unit not have them scurrying in the back.

Keep crying about your supposed loss. Go to therapy. Warhammer always changes. Adapt and evolve or die.

I'm sad there's not Gravis more things. Gravis librarians, gravis lieutenants uh... gravis jump pack scouts??

​@@larkhainan*Librarian, Chaplain, Techmarine, Lieutenant* Plus weapon options for the Sergeant in Heavy Intercessors. Gravis & Dreadnought for the win. 🌟

Good lord. Already wanting more character. 🥹 y’all already have a ton of characters

Its a crime not to include Tiggy in Blue Bois for what he brings for 75p, especially in games of 1000p

@@Whoknows21356 I'm Astra Millitatrum 90% of the time when playing. I collect Space Marines for their look mostly. I don't mind what gets released overall.

Gw just can not produce enough stuff and sadly for them people do not like Smurfs that much. Papa Smurf and Titus behave like a black Templar with rage mode on/off, not a typical master of none Smurf.

@@BloodyArchangelus it's just frustrating that one only Named Character Librarian worth taking, even worth building a unit AROUND, is a Big Blue Boyscout, when they could easily fix that just by updating what units others could attach to (and maybe dropping the SW librarian down 10 points). Sometimes it feels like Matt Ward is haunting GW still.

Also! Bonus points, he's got a sick model

Have to admit I take that model every game so far very helpful

That was how it was in 7th and before, and in 8th and 9th was effectively how it was handled (not officially part of the squad but all buffs were auras to locally targeted). However, they decided going into 10th that it was too hard to balance out all the possible interactions where certain buffs might be fine and flavorful in general but too strong combined with certain units, so they decided to instead limit what units get access to which buffs. Kind of frustrating overall though, and probably could have just limited/toned down the buffs themselves rather than try to limit what goes into each squad (and even in the process they have weird things - like the Lieutenant in 8th/9th was good for pretty much any squad with RR1's to wound, but now with "Lethal Hits" why would you even waste the ink giving them Infernus Squads as a bodyguard choice?). We can already see the cracks in updating factions and dealing with new units/leaders and what bodyguards for what, and it is going to compound with each new release.

I miss them too, and I dont understand why they did away with them. I loved pyromancy, and biomancy. They were loads of fun. I used to have a terminator librarian with a storm shield that i would put with a close combat squad of some description, and either hulk out on biomancy or use the fire nova spells before the charge. It was great at large blobs of multi units.

I don't know if you played in 5th Ed, but it was super different. Tanks has armor facings, so the armor would usually be weak in the back. AP worked different, so space Marines were super tanky and terminators were almost impossible to remove. Flamers and blast weapons had templates, you hit whatever was under the template. More realistic, but space out your models and it would minimize casualties. The game was more about the narrative than the competition, and it was great.

@@codyott1982i haven’t played since the end of 5th… termis were a lot weaker than you remember I think. 5+ inv and a 2+ save only goes so far (it only takes a single 1)Particularly with how much ap2 stuff there was. Getting FNP from whatever way you could get it was a savior. Mass attacks could swamp 2+ saves fairly easily compared to these multi wound versions now. Looks like If I had came back just a year ago, I could still use my Scars, now I’ll have to start from scratch. I was looking forward to not hitting a pothole and loosing entire bike squads after failing difficult terrain tests when I enter and leave terrain. (I’m having some 3E flashbacks or something in here too).

@@cmSaS oh yeah 5th ed had a lot of jank. Like a tank getting immobalised on a curb. Or losing your HQ when he splatted down with a jump pack but failed the difficult terrain. And yeah losing a full squad of terms to massed lasguns was annoying too. That said, I did like the armour values and facings on vehicals, I just think they should have had wounds. That one lucky lascannon taking down a landraider in one shot on turn one was just demoralising, and why I didnt use vehicals much in 5th ed. Was more reliable to spam troops instead. But thats why i have a full companies worth of marines now lol

@@cmSaS I meant assault terminators, obviously ss/th. That 3+ invuln was crazy good. We had 2 shield types, combat (4+ invuln) and storm (3+). Yea, my memory might be kinda bad, but I remember it somewhat well

C’mon, you guys spend that much time up Big E’s corpse rectum you’ve got to have found the secrets of the warp 😅

I posted this higher up before i saw your comment: Ezekiel has potential to go up to 4 library books. He has to get updated when we get the dark angels codex in spring. He can be great with bladeguard or heroes and if he could get a jump pack (he wont) but I'd be extremely happy. Hell, give him gravis armour and lead inceptors he can have a scrap while there shooting

The are points, up to three of any single non-battleline data sheet, only one of each named (epic hero) character, and you have to pick one chapter keyword when selecting named characters. So there’s nothing stopping you from running all of the Ultramarines characters at the same time. There’s actually a 2k list that’s only captain models.

Sternguard lost that ability with codex release, they instead get +1 to hit on oath target

@@rodrigogarcia114 ugh…. I’m still waiting for my copy since my local store suffers from GW unreliability. Didn’t know it (can’t see via app due to GW locking out the ability to see the info unit I get a codex).. Thanks for update. 🤦🏽‍♂️

It's more a balancing issue as giving the termie libby a 4++ would be kinda redundant. I mean in the future they might have data sheets for different librarians with a different buff for the squad they join or maybe psychic melee attacks as well.

Poor poor Mephiston and all BA chapter....Hope for theCodex ?

Tiggy is good