Cause the front is considered ugly?

@ Matheus Guerra Yea kind of like how I can read you’re comment but dont have to look at your face at the same time

Lmao

That wasn't a coincidence..

@@caribbeanseas "your"

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Thank you Billy for the well crafted comment! Your mom is calling you for dinner!

They purposely made it ugly to get attention kind of like how clickbait works now. Producers either car or media just want attention whether it’s negative attention or good

to be fair these aerodynamics are just better than the prior generation even though they look not that good.

@@EverydayDriver Didn't have access to the handling pack Mach 1 ?(dosen't have the handling pack rear spoiler).

THIS ☝🏻🙏🏻

100% agree. Plus when you actually think about buying these cars, in this configuration, the Mustang is $40k cheaper. Considering they both give you a phenomenal driving experience, I'd save the money and go for the car that's more fun to drive and look at.

I can't imagine buying a Mach 1 without the tremec, thats literally the main selling point IMO but it seems overlooked by most people

@@justinelliott293 Major FACTS ☝🏻

@@justinelliott293 I thought the fighter jet grey color only came in a manual 😕.

Even crazier that they’re asking 100k for the Mbeaver.

And the Mach 1 depreciates at the same rate as the GT, dropping like a stone.

s550's are great daily drivers.

And it still looks the same as it did when introduced. Lol

Looks even better with the bigger rear spoiler with the gurney flap, absolute perfection

Looks like shit from inside ...like a 20k car

Mach 1 looks like every other mustang on the road. M4 looks new and it shits on the mustang in every single perfromace metric u can do. While having an actual luxury interior and better tech. No brainer

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bingo! you get it!

That's why on a test ride that I realized the BMW M240i was the best drivers car imaginable imo! Not to mention extremely fast 4.2 seconds or better to 60 mph! I also did a test ride in the S3 and S4, and neither were even close to the Beemer! The Miata leaves a lot to be desired from a performance standpoint, but it's a fun little car from what I hear! My point was try a proper BMW and like myself you will be blown away with an M2 competition, M240i, and I'm sure other M cars! Don't give up on the Germans just the brand Audi lol!✌

@@germanengineering204 M2 is a great car. the miata or porsche boxster is too.

@@germanengineering204 bmw is a great riding vehicle . Arnt you worried about the reliability though?

@@whata86 Not to much the 2 series in general is considered reliable! The B58 engine in particular is the best inline turbo 6 BMW ever created according to the experts! It's under warranty for a long time still, so not overly concerned at this point! I have 14k on it already, and I don't baby it with no troubles so far. I pray it stays reliable because the car is incredible to drive, and extremely fast!✌

Yea people are just delusional. They said it doesn't work for bmw but they are selling triple the amount of m3s and m4s as their older ones per year

@@G82Watts a lot of buyers overcame initial shock, and put up with it only because engineers did such a great job on it. Also interior feels like 3 gens ahead of old one.

That handling package is what makes it different from the GT.

@@MrMashman93and the tremec

Facts and still have money for Whipple or a Roush with warranty. 750 hp easier …

If you can get a Mach 1 Handling used, you've won.

Hahahaha sure buddy, not even a fan of both so neither the bmw but it's the better car in all eara's besides sound and that like I said before subjective. It drives better, has better handling, it's faster, much faster even, it looks better inside and outside and the finish can't even be compared it's that much higher up.

​@@swansmeister The M4 does NOT handle better than a mach 1 with the handling pkg and mag ride. And if you think the M4 looks better please have your eyes checked. The nose is pretty bad and the rest of the car is fairly generic and boring. The Mach 1 on the other hand looks awesome from every angle. The BMW, as a luxury brand, of course has a little better fit& finish and initial quality but that's why you pay so much for it. And the Mach 1's fit & finish and quality is not bad by any means. And yes the beamer is a little faster in a straight line, but the aftermarket is insane for mustangs and the Mach 1 can easily be made just as fast or faster and still cost WAY less than the M4. Overall the Mach 1 is a much better bang for the buck and will also be more reliable and cost way less to maintain. Luxury euro cars are the worst cars to own in terms of reliability and maintenance, especially once the warranty expires. But to each their own I guess.

@@kevinbreese5739 not gonna read the whole book but I am 100 percent sure it's nurburgring time is a lot faster than that slow ass lump.

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I was really, really wrong about this! That said, I do respect people who don't like it...I get it😇

I agree that in person it's not fully hideous, but it's still not great.

@@Atomb not refuting what you said but let me ask you this...what worse looking, the front of this M4 or the rear of the C8🤔

@@klasseact6663 God. Perfect question. I don't know! I wish the C8 rear was better, but the front of the M4 is so bad that I wonder how it ever went into production. So, I'll go M4.

if the car was black it would remind me of darth vader, but not in a good way.

Saw a white one yesterday in Leesburg Georgia. It’s beautiful. I’m currently in the market for a Jeep but I may hold another year or two. It’s that good

yes, but they did one stupid move,, they killed of the fusion..i have a 2014 fusion 2.0 ecoboost engine ( the better spanjsh engine ) se w/lux package and 235/45/19 wheels and tires..ans some othere mods..and i can roast most 3 tpes on the roads with it..hy1 between sasulito and stinson beach.. one was in front of me,, and pulled away..so he wants to play????? so i stuff mine into sports mode.. now only using paddle shift.. and after a few miles.. he gave up and pulled to a turnout.. and started chasing me.. after a few corners,, he started to fall behind....never got above 3rd gear. paddle shift...6 speed auto... my g/f told me when we stopped at stinson beach.. that see saw 2 or 3 orange warning light flikker on and off.. i asked her to show me the location of the orange lights... they were my traction/ stability control and my abs lamps.. was pushing my car pretty hard to make those show up..dont know about the bmw driver..i looked around for the car. after we parked..did not find it

Well don't get your hopes up the Ford Bronco is a mess, just look under the hood and decide for yourself. I was excited but after seeing one for myself, dissapointment is an understatement.

@@wrighterjfly - disappointing in what way? The best looking car that has come out in the last 10 yrs. What’s under the hood that’s a mess?? That Ecoboost engine is great. All I’m hearing is I’m a fanboy of another manufacturer and am hating on Ford and the bronco for no reason.

@@wrighterjfly The actual Bronco or the Bronco Sport? I've only seen the Sport and it's just too much of a Subaru for me.

bmw edsel

67% premium? $50,775 vs $71,800 is 41% ... if you don't want a Infra Red front facing camera and dual perfume injections ... you can just not buy it.

@@goguhu Look at the as tested numbers buddy. 100k ...what that person was talking about VERY clearly

@@raionshishi8290 don’t matter, and I replied to this comment. You cannot take a car fully loaded and compare to a base model and conclude one is way more expensive .. as a conclusion. A can of Coke attached to a gold bar is 50,000 times more expensive than a can of Pepsi. Sure … it it’s irrelevant if you compare the drinks.

It is absolutely hideous. I recently went to my local BMW dealer to keep my wife company while her vehicle was getting serviced. One of the salesmen attempted to get me trade my 2020 Mustang GT for one of their BMW's with that horrible front end design. I told him that not only would I never trade for any of those but they would have to literally give me one of those monstrosities for free and then would still owe me at least a couple of grand for all the pain and suffering from having to look at that design mistake every day. Sheesh.

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@@EverydayDriver ah I see thanks for the info. You guys make a great team! 👍

Why would you drive the veloster with a Mach 1 on your garage?

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yeah still a better car than anything mustang puts out tho

@@noorkashif9107 there is no bmw better than a gt350r.

You're gonna love it, especially with the Tremec. It's the only way to really enjoy the Mach 1. And the sound of the Coyote.......

I want to swap a t56 in my s550 gt. Wish Ford didn’t use cheap mt-82 for the gt.

@@ZFA1738 if Ford made the TR-3160 at least optional on the regular 5.0 GT I would get a regular GT

I gotta go with the m4, the great driving dynamics accompanied with that glorious v8 of the mustang is tempting but that interior isn’t something I can forgive. The m4 is just a more complete car, checks every box and still offers the 6mt. Never cared what others said about the beaver front, I don’t mind it. Actually kinda like it.

@@LegendInThaMakin yeah but at $100k for the M4 you can get Audi R8 or Nissan GTR, and a bunch of others I would take over a BMW.

As me being a huge oldschool bmw enthusiast, I agree with you!

@@85corolla im an old school BMW enthusiast as well. E9 being my all time favorite. Im currently driving an 09 e88. Lots of mods. Love it!

@@johnnymula2305 Oh nice!, If I could go back in time, e9 would be on my top 5 list to buy. I currently own an e30m3 and a 190e 2.3-16 euro specs. I once had a w124 500e, but regrettably sold it...ugh.

What!!!! No Mustang much cooler , 40 grand price difference as well and Mustang looks better and more fun

@@gmain1977 give me the Mustang drivetrain+chassis with the BMW interior

​@@gmain1977mustang does not look better lmao. Looks like a mustang. Boring af. The m3 and m4 turn heads

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​@@EverydayDriverwhy are the new m3 and m4 selling triple the amount of cars then the old m3 and m4. Check bmw sales stats. Looks like ur opinion is just that. An opinion

For a 40K extra over the Mustang, I'd expect the interior to be a lot nicer. Nobody seems to be talking about the cost difference here. For 100k one could have the Mach 1 and a nice medium size SUV to drive when the weather sucks or you want to haul the family to the beach for the weekend.

@@scottanthony3426base is 51 for the mach 1 and 72 for the m4 and a better interior and a faster car is worth the 20k imo

The GT350 engines are pure garbage, they don't hold up for what they're designed for😔

@@klasseact6663 Yes I've noticed a number of GT350 owners speaking of reliability issues with the motor over time.

@@patricsteele I have 2 friends that both had those cars and both had to lemon law there vehicles because of this😔

@@klasseact6663 it amazing how the squeaky wheel always get the attention! Absolutely zero problems with the engine, burns zero oil and I take it as a point of pride to beat the snot out of her every single time I drive her! It is too bad that the absolute minority of owners actually "know" this guy with engine problems, lemon by backs, ect. It's like a damn Bigfoot sighting! Bottom line is that it is completely disingenuous to brand a motor as garbage when this motor/transmission combo is what makes this car so damn special. Allow the engine to get to operating temperature, until then, keep the revs low. After that, use the entire RPM range and go full send every chance you can. Don't baby it... drive the damn car and you will always get that smiles per miles we all brag about. 2 bus loads of people complaining about their blown engine experience pales in comparison to the area full of people that can't say enough on how great this car is.

@@curaco678 I am basing my opinion on 2 friends who are experienced track guys know how to take care of the car know how to drive. I agree with you 100% that the engine is what makes the car great and it is far superior to the other products but unfortunately due to the size of the engine the flat plane crank has bad if plain crank has bad vibration problems.

Yes M4 is just too ugly rn :(

That knocking was very likely nothing to worry about. Too many internet rumors!

@@stratolestele7611 Probably just the normal direct injector noise

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no, it actually is that bad

Black M4/M3 looks good IMO, black hides the grille.

Stradale Design has come up with a new replacement front bumper for the M3/M4 also.

Good luck getting one, the ordering process is brutal for the Mach 1

Outdoor Layne the Mach 1 is also a stick. They just couldn’t get one for the review, because that’s what everyone is buying.

@@layne4376 idk man voodoo engine seems almost unreliable with the timing chain issues that can grenade the entire engine.

It’s good to see that I’m not the only one that thinks that front end on the M4 looks amazing! It reminds me of the nostrils of a thoroughbred racing horse

Unless you like a better looking car and 6 spd

interior quality of bmw >>>>

Status? The m4 is the better perfromance car in every way imaginable when it comes to power and handling. Has actual luxury interior and better tech.

Things M fans tell themselves to feel better

@@n9athan I'm an Audi guy but this engine is just so fucking good. Really the only differences at the engine are using two throttle valves, a direct intercooler and dry sump lubrication to position the engine lower in the race car. The block, rods and pistons, exhaust manifold, turbos, crankcase, cylinder head with all the inner workings and so on... all stock. When they build a M4 GT3 they take the engine from the regular production lines, add a few different parts to it and voilà: your engine is ready to race.

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Yeah I never thought I'd say this, but the goofy grille on the M4 is growing on me. I actually like it. Lol 😅

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For 40k, I think I could get a paint job and make the car much faster than the Beamer

And fuel saving would be nice superchargers drink it

i540. a better looking, more practical bmw for a lot less money

Where in the world did you get that number? 2015 Camaro SS 1LE weighs 3,884 lbs.

@@sliknik1025 haha the scale it was weighed on bud....full weight full tank of gas

Car&Driver statistic for 2017 SS 1LE Curb weight: 3747 lb let’s assume that’s without fuel. 3747 + (20x6.2) = #3871. Unless you weigh 529 lbs the scale you used was inaccurate.

@@sink61 2017 is a 6th gen I own a 5th

@@mikewozawski1634 that's gotta be off. The GT500 and even Hellcat are around that weight.

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Getting old....

@@MikeKonkle it's going to get A LOT worse than this

@@MikeKonkle Well you ain't heard nothing yet! Wait 'till they chant it at the Super Bowl! hahahaha