EFAP Movies #48: Saw V

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EFAP Movies #48: Saw V

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9 ай бұрын

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@Pompadour_Pug 9 ай бұрын

Wolf didn't need to make the flashback timeline chart but I'm so glad he did.

@ab-gail 9 ай бұрын

Props to him for taking the time to do that. Adam’s suggestion could’ve been just an offhand comment. Wolf made dreams real.

@stephenlanuto5993 9 ай бұрын

That flute playing will never get old

@zerowolf0006 9 ай бұрын

It gives life haha

@shamboholic 9 ай бұрын

YMS has become this quest’s bard. 3 notes and I’m inspired

@nichepaper 9 ай бұрын

⁠@@zerowolf0006to unlock those healing shaman powers he has to play at 432 hz or a 396 to really jostle those chakras lol

@tailedgates9 9 ай бұрын

doot doot doot. XD

@stephenlanuto5993 9 ай бұрын

@@tailedgates9 the timing is just spot on lol

@Soapy-chan 9 ай бұрын

"I put a nuclear bomb in a room and a wiretrap that sets it off. Then I put a bad person in the room and his daughter in another room with a glass window that showed her being tied up and screaming for his help. He then ran over to her and triggered the wire that triggered the bomb. Millions of people died. I never killed anyone." - Jigsaw

@TheRealJabbergeist 9 ай бұрын

Cops: "Can't believe that man killed so many people, what a monster! If only we had more law-abiding citizens around, like that Jigsaw fellow."

@Soapy-chan 9 ай бұрын

@@TheRealJabbergeist hahaha yees

@realmofloredor 9 ай бұрын

I don’t know why EFAP are so critical of John Kramer and his methods. Unlike them he’s never killed anyone.

@tentacledood5784 9 ай бұрын

Wait, EFAP has killed?! 😨

@HermitBlake 9 ай бұрын

@@tentacledood5784 They killed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart!

@tentacledood5784 9 ай бұрын

@@HermitBlake 😱

@kennandunn7533 9 ай бұрын

@@tentacledood5784 Before EFAP it was Wilford Brimley (alive), now it's Wilford Brimley (ascended), coincidence? I think not!

@GusBried 9 ай бұрын

@@HermitBlakegoogle translate thinks you needed one more 'a' in there to be speaking proper English..

@xel1673 9 ай бұрын

'What about the little girl? Why bother kidnapping her at all?" She needed horrible childhood trauma... to appreciate life.

@hieronymus4120 9 ай бұрын

This one illustrates a core problem I have with Saw as a series. I wish the series were a mix of clever kills and clever escapes that always keeps you guessing. Strahm escaping the drowning trap by giving himself a tracheotomy is surprisingly cool and creative, but the movie throws it away by giving him a stupid and contrived death shortly after, seemingly out of brand obligation to never let the good guys/victims have even the smallest of lasting victories.

@TheFatalcrest 9 ай бұрын

That's honestly what I want as well! It would add to the dance, does Jigsaw consider them rehabilitated if they escape? What happens if they break a trap without following his careful design? Does he consider it bad form to go back for a victory? If they relapse or have ANOTHER Flaw he perceives in their life, would he then justify it to himself he can return for them. XD I really also wish we maintained a cop! Someone that Jigsaw has history with and keeps chasing him (like Tap if he lived, or Donnie, or Strom) where he leads them to some growth on that chase.

@ab-gail 9 ай бұрын

@@TheFatalcrest Man this is what we’re missing. I was hoping Tap would be that recurring cop character since you could play as him in the video game. Imagine if Hoffman was just as crazy but he’s a cop who working to catch Jigsaw. Willing to do anything, even kill fellow cops to catch Jiggy!

@hedutin Ай бұрын

Yeah because it's a torture porn movie. It's all about torture with some nonsense sprinkled in to make it seem something else than what it is.

@thuglifebear5256 9 ай бұрын

It genuinely looks like a fully chronological Saw cut would be hilarious to watch.

@thesmilinggun-knight9646 9 ай бұрын

I’d watch it, it would be one hell of a cluster fuck.

@TheFatalcrest 9 ай бұрын

😂 Do you think it would even line up 100 percent or would it hit you with continuity error after continuity error.

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

Some scenes would have to have that 24 style 4 screens simultaneous cut, it would be a mess lol

@ab-gail 5 ай бұрын

@@Jasper_Silva Like Ang Lee’s Hulk

@robvandenberg7778 9 ай бұрын

Jigsaw saying he never killed anyone isn't the problem; he is a deranged serial killer after all. The problem is the movies insinuating that he's right. Thank you for watching these movies by the way! You continue to make make bad media entertaining.

@RedStar_N7 9 ай бұрын

I think they completely butchered their original point. Jigsaw's whole deal is that he's not like the typical murderers you see on the news, chasing a high and the power of hunting someone down and killing them. He could do that as easily as he sneaks up and kidnaps people. Rather he seems fascinated by the human mind and what its willing to go through when faced with unimaginable pain and suffering, and what it may or may not sacrifice to escape these fates. He feels he's been awakened by his own suffering in a way and his delusions compel him to seek individuals who he sees can share his view when they are reborn. All the trauma and agony in the world be damned. Its all worth it to him if they come out the other side better than themselves But like sooo many other things in this series. They really dont trust the audience to figure that out on their own. So they come up with a more simple-minded motivation to have law enforcement and other rational people regurgiate so everyone can understand. Not knowing or not caring the damage this does to John's already twisted philosophy

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

Virgin Saw: Jigsaw is not a killer. He is a philosopher who teaches people lessons. Chad Death Note: This mf Kira is deranged.

@dimas3829 9 ай бұрын

@@nont18411 Wasn't the detective that killed Kira very confused whether what he has done was a good or a bad deed? Kira pretty much indoctrinated maority of the world at that point.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

@@dimas3829 It’s fine of the characters in that universe felt compelled by the villain. At least in the end, the anime made it clear that Light was wrong. My issue is with how directors, actors and Tobin Bell himself in real life keep saying that Jigsaw doesn’t kill people.

@dimas3829 9 ай бұрын

@@nont18411 But anime didn't do that. Kira as a person may have been wrong, but as an idea his totalitarian state was to the liking of the majority of people living in it. If he would be totally sucessful - it wouldn't even be him that kills people for wrongdoing, but his loyal fanatics entrusted with their share of the Note till their demise and transfer of such to the next in eternal line. Furthermore, him becoming newborn god of death\shinigami himself after death - proved him totally right by the author.

@tomjames9681 9 ай бұрын

How cute that Hoffman had such a massive crush on Strahm.

@thesmilinggun-knight9646 9 ай бұрын

Boo get off the stage 😆.

@TheWunWhiteWolf 9 ай бұрын

The Water Cube is one of my favorite traps because it was all done with practical effects. They literally had to submerge the actor’s head in water between takes.

@RedStar_N7 9 ай бұрын

I can't believe Strom was actually supposed to die there. Apparently the actor started drowning for real, but his acting was so good, neither the director or anyone else on set had any idea his life was in danger. Fortunately the actor had previously done some improv work early on in his career and used that experience to save his own life with a pen as they were filming. The crew apparently loved it so much, they immediately called the writer so they could re-draft the whole movie around Strom surviving that encounter. Bravo James Wan

@Pink.andahalf 9 ай бұрын

@RedStar_N7 That sounds made up, where did you read that?

@comeatmebro8120 9 ай бұрын

@@Pink.andahalf Its a breaking bad meme

@shawklan27 9 ай бұрын

@RedStar_N7 now that's what I call dedication

@denzelcooper3153 9 ай бұрын

The ending of this movie always left me a bitter taste in my mouth. Strahm survived the water cube trap in a badass way just to still die in the end, pretty gruesome too.

@ObsidianBehemoth 9 ай бұрын

Can't wait for the reboot, Son of Saw. The child Amanda had with Jigsaw (the puppet, not the man) continues his father's work.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

Saw franchise might be many things but it can never capture the same magic that Final Destination did because it doesn’t have characters named “Racist”, “MILF”, “Racist’s wife’ and “MILF’s husband”.

@soulsearcher9620 9 ай бұрын

sometimes those characters are all the same person

@ghostprojekt 9 ай бұрын

"Maybe the true racist was the friends we made along the way" -Jigsaw

@connors9597 9 ай бұрын

just you wait for Saw 3D and Linkin Park…

@bZman 9 ай бұрын

My favorite character was Racist MILFs Wifes Husband.

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

Racist was snubbed in that year's Oscar.

@Voicesinme 9 ай бұрын

Jigsaw is definitely the type to break up via text or voicemail

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

Probably via tape recorder.

@terryterry5653 9 ай бұрын

@@Jasper_Silva tape recorder stuck up his own ass

@gonotgentleman 9 ай бұрын

“Hello Tiffany. I don’t want to play games with you anymore. In front of you is a box. The box contains all of your possessions you left at my place.”

@Tundra. 9 ай бұрын

@@gonotgentleman"There is no trick. Please don't try to contact me again. It's over. Game over." _Saw theme plays._

@tailedgates9 9 ай бұрын

@@Tundra. The flute version of the theme. XD

@Beuwen_The_Dragon 9 ай бұрын

‘I was Born in the Saw, Moulded By it…” ~Sawron, from Game of Rings. ^.-.^

@tentacledood5784 9 ай бұрын

I really love your comments

@HerohammerStudios 9 ай бұрын

Wolf's editing has been getting a lot better. Good on him

@Houseoholiker 9 ай бұрын

wait wolf edit the vids?

@professormallard4348 9 ай бұрын

Ikr, i remember his videos and it's really nice to see his editing skills continue to grow even if we won't have him back. I hope he's doing well. It's been a treat to have EFAP movies and the Gollum compilation put together by him.

@clintbeastwood5116 9 ай бұрын

@Houseoholiker Some of them. Mauler labels who edits his videos, and several say they're edited by Wolf.

@kingbash6466 9 ай бұрын

You mean THE Wolf?

@Soapy-chan 9 ай бұрын

@@kingbash6466yup

@Sand_Dolphin 9 ай бұрын

I feel spread thin, like a person over two walls --Bagsaw

@Pink.andahalf 9 ай бұрын

Best comment

@thesmilinggun-knight9646 9 ай бұрын

@@Pink.andahalfno.

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

I feel PRESSED thin, like a person over two walls --Agent Bilbo Strahm... or was it Hoffman?

@unpopularopinions7407 9 ай бұрын

Crazy that Wolf is the one editing these

@soulsearcher9620 9 ай бұрын

Who else could handle the cringe of the fleem?

@Idiotocin 8 ай бұрын

@@soulsearcher9620Wolf has experience dealing with Fleem

@djdeadbeat4380 9 ай бұрын

If not for Tobin Bell, I probably wouldn’t have ever watched past the 2nd movie.

@realmofloredor 9 ай бұрын

His acting and character work made Saw X much more enjoyable than I expected.

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

He's legit the soul of the movie yeah.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

@@Jasper_Silva “Saw”l of the movie

@LaughingGemini 9 ай бұрын

Well how far did you get. Besides Saw 3 he's barely in Saw 4 - 7.

@sztallone415 9 ай бұрын

@@nont18411 I Saw what you did there. It was sawtisfying

@alexadamson9959 9 ай бұрын

I love how jig died 2 moves ago but they still find a way to keep him in the series.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

Jig Sawpatine: “I have died before.”

@throwdown1776 9 ай бұрын

His twin brother, Don Kramer became the new jigsaw

@ButtSolution 9 ай бұрын

"You're a big guy." "To me."

@RestrictedAudiencesOnly 9 ай бұрын

This is my favorite Saw movie, my excitement for this EFAP trashing the fatal five is through the roof. The Hoff Man Cometh

@realmofloredor 9 ай бұрын

Those fuckers were handed probably the easiest game in the entire franchise. Honestly they all deserved to die for their stupidity 😅.

@booperdee2 9 ай бұрын

definitely the social traps are the more interesting ones and when they, you know, actually interact unlike in Saw 2 where htey just stumble around and one dude gets stabby

@gamercore7833 9 ай бұрын

I prefer saw 2 but your opinion is respected

@comeatmebro8120 9 ай бұрын

My personal favorite is Saw 6 because it feels a lot more realistic with the decisions that certain characters make during the tests

@BananaMana69 9 ай бұрын

Wolf having edoted thos really feels good. I am glad that the OG EFAP crew still has good times together. Maybe one day we will get Wolfs amazing edge back in these streams. He really was the catalyst for this podcast as his podcast was basically proto efap.

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

I love just the sheer dumbness of the casting choice on the two identical detectives and how someone was clearly like "Alright we gotta get rid of one, this is a PROBLEM!" lol

@fatgumthegoat 9 ай бұрын

the fact fringy felt the need to specify not my goo is hilarious to me the goo is truly a part of him now

@dungusyungus245s 9 ай бұрын

I just noticed Fringy is dressed as a cassowary which is honestly not a bad choice for a scary costume.

@kingbash6466 9 ай бұрын

It's funny how Hoffman and Strahm look so similar that the only way to distinguish the 2 is through their voices (Hoffman has the deeper voice, which is why he nails the Jigsaw voice compared to Strahm's more higher pitched and younger sounding voice).

@aaronjustice9020 9 ай бұрын

I wouldnt call the first one gore porn, and maybe not the second. I think it was kindbe revised after they became gorier. Like there was motivation in the early ones. I consider gore porn gore for the sake of gore.

@kvltofsobek90 8 ай бұрын

Hoffman also has the full pouty voluptuous lips

@mrSleepyguy1 9 ай бұрын

I am gonna miss YMS. Its really disheartening to watch this while knowing that YMS isnt planning to come on anymore... he adds so much to these videos.. hopefully all this gets resolved.

@GusBried 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely my favorite efap movies guest and one of my favorite efap in general guests... And the drama seems so stupid (on both sides) as well

@sweetpeaches6955 9 ай бұрын

Wait did YMS had a fallout with Mauler & EFAP?

@hideofreakingkojima5457 9 ай бұрын

@@sweetpeaches6955 I know Mauler and EFAP had a dicussion with YMS about his reaction to Drinker's interview, but I refuse to believe that is the reason they split up.

@mrSleepyguy1 9 ай бұрын

@@sweetpeaches6955 Yea... basically started from the Critical Drinker video. Despite it being pretty amicable between the EFAP crew and YMS... Apparently YMS got a lot of hate from the EFAP fanbase. He mentioned that his subreddit was getting brigaded. I think he talks about it more on the sitch&adam show. I havent finished that part yet. Kinda skipped past to where Mauler comes on to talk to S&A

@sweetpeaches6955 9 ай бұрын

@@mrSleepyguy1 Oh i see, that’s disappointing I enjoy YMS as guest in EFAP and if that’s reason why this fallout happen then it’s a big shame.

@thanatosdriver1938 9 ай бұрын

Jigsaw: I anticipate the possibilities. Meanwhile: he narrowly tailors the circumstances because you have no choice to play his game his way Thrawn: master strategist Meanwhile: he anticipates possibilities and then does incredibly stupid decisions with his correct deductions These two need to switch franchises

@TheFatalcrest 9 ай бұрын

😂 Jigsaw in starwars would be WILD

@emuman09 9 ай бұрын

At this point jigsaw must be some kind of deity to plan for every possible outcome it's ridiculous

@HugoGojibiter 9 ай бұрын

“Hello General Kenobi, or as they call you around the desert… Ben”

@scottski02 3 ай бұрын

"Hello Filoni, I would like to play a game. If you can write a script without crowbaring Ashoka into it, you will be free to go."

@thanatosdriver1938 3 ай бұрын

@@scottski02 "Beny walked into the store to get some bread. On his way he saw the store was opening in 1 minute. He waited a minute, he got his bread." "Please let me go"

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

Jigsaw: “You are too obsessed with saving everyone, Officer Rigg. You should learn to let those people save themselves.” Also Jigsaw: conspired with Dr. Gordon to have Hoffman kidnapped Dr. Lynn DeLyndelof then had Amanda set a shotgun collar trap on Lynn to force Lynn to perform brain surgery for him, instead of performing a brain surgery on himself. You know, saving himself.

@proudtobeme1ashkente 9 ай бұрын

I know what you mean but I think a good part of setting things in motion so that a medical professional would be forced to operate on you can be considered saving yourself. He'd probably consider someone with suicidal ideation who goes to therapy to be saving themselves even if they're letting someone else to the job of psycho analysis and all that.

@squee116 9 ай бұрын

@@proudtobeme1ashkente By that same theory, anyone who paid their taxes, which go to fund police departments, are somehow involved in Officer Rigs saving them, right?

@booperdee2 9 ай бұрын

Jiggy is not obsessed with saving everyone. His ENTIRE POINT is testing each persons specific obsessions

@hardromeo436 9 ай бұрын

The Officer Rigg plot is frustrating bc the movie is implying that he's reckless but that isn't the angle Jigsaw takes. "You're obsessed with saving people" is dumb. It should have been "You look before you leap and that has gotten others hurt/killed. Can you keep a cool head and learn not to put others at risk with you brash actions?"

@proudtobeme1ashkente 9 ай бұрын

@@squee116 I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. The active role Jigsaw plays in this plan and the outcome he had in mind are important aspects. He made many choices on the way to save himself, whereas taxes aren't paid through making an active choice. They're mandatory and usually automatically deducted from someone's pay (at least where I'm from). Most of us are also not involved in the processes of tax redistribution. If taxes weren't mandatory and you could choose to directly fund the local police department of which Riggs was a part of, then I would agree they would technically be trying to save themselves, as they'd likely be funding the police for their own safety. If I were nitpicky about it, then in the case of mandatory taxes you could say anyone who voted for politicians who vowed to fund that specific department with the voters' taxes (who then won and funded that department as they promised) should be concidered as trying to save themselves, as well.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

“Killing is DISTASTEFUL!” said Jigsaw “Yeah, very distasteful.” said a guy who got paralyzed and murdered by Amanda and an Asian cop that got his head blown off in Saw 1, a girl who convulsed to death thanks to Jigsaw’s Sarin gas in Saw 2 and many more to come.

@soulsearcher9620 9 ай бұрын

There's a story to be told of the delusions of a serial killer justifying their own actions, but the movies NEVER go into depth on that hypocrisy in any meaningful way.

@realmofloredor 9 ай бұрын

“……… To me”

@RedStar_N7 9 ай бұрын

@@soulsearcher9620 They've already screwed up that potential by having so many "sane" people clarify that he doesn't kill people and the victims aren't actually victims, but self inflicted casualties. I mean yes, those people are often too stupid to save themselves, but the film wants to try and say something profound about human nature. I dont know why the directors have such a hard on for trying to get that across as if he's innocent. Why have police involved if there's no crime? If someone came out and confronted Jigsaw about this. Everyone in universe would be laughing at the guy for being absurd and actually condemning the guy for his actions. Baseless accusations are distasteful, you see

@shawklan27 9 ай бұрын

Bro you're so right there especially with the asian cop

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

@@realmofloredor "...... FOR YOU!"

@EpicJasonX9000 9 ай бұрын

This feels like a breath of fresh air compared to Assholka in Disney’s The Franchise Of The Dead.

@jeroenceulemans3715 9 ай бұрын

I love how much fun Wolf is having with editing these. His memecrafting is golden!

@spinyhedgie 9 ай бұрын

11:54 i want to jigsaw do the youtuber stereotypes with the puppet in his videos including the “candid” “oh! I didnt see you there!”

@asrtralstreetboys 9 ай бұрын

Loving the halloween efap movies, its a vibe to get comfy, grab a snack, and watch the boys tear these movies a new one

@SolarDragon007 9 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the one with the PaSTRAHMi Sandwich at the end.

@Hello_All_My_N_Words 4 ай бұрын

Metal had one of the best lines in the whole Saw arc and nobody even chuckled.. "Now hea really starting to get jiggy with it"

@EpicJasonX9000 9 ай бұрын

The next twist is that Wolf will come back to join the EFAP crew for SAW X. That would definitely be shocking to see and significantly raise viewership. ^-^

@Soapy-chan 9 ай бұрын

don't make me hope

@EpicJasonX9000 9 ай бұрын

@@Soapy-chan too late, I just did.

@Soapy-chan 9 ай бұрын

@@EpicJasonX9000 curse you!!! 🤣

@EpicJasonX9000 9 ай бұрын

@@Soapy-chan Heh Heh Heh!!!!

@shawnreinhart9978 9 ай бұрын

33:55 spit my drink out when crawling by linkin park started playing referencing jigsaws edgy style 😂

@lookbach 9 ай бұрын

Wolf is doing a banger job on these 😊

@jotun.616 9 ай бұрын

57:26 yea it always bugged me that the good guys kept dying.

@0Sutekinaryuu0 9 ай бұрын

What did you bring ….to me?

@atomicdancer 9 ай бұрын

You have not Saw what I have Saw!" - Detective Galadriel, "The Saws of Power"

@connors9597 9 ай бұрын

how did we go from saws and chains to saws and chainssss?

@CommanderZx2 9 ай бұрын

Wow that flashback timeline sure was something.

@nont18411 9 ай бұрын

In the end of this movie, Strahm got trapped between traps. Just like Ahsoka got in the world between worlds.

@esatofortune5570 9 ай бұрын

Im here for the flute solo 😂

@juliuswatcher1157 9 ай бұрын

Compared to the previous ones, except 1, this had one of the better elaborated games, since it was designated in a way where it may look where one has to die for room, but Jigsaw leaves the fair hint versus how people would behave. Once they started advancing thorugh the rooms, if they got the nobody dis result, they could've started to realize that nobody needs to dies, and the last trap would be easier (ignoring the work arounds of using non blood fluids). Also, in response to some people in the chat, and without offense, but they couldn't get previous rooms bodies. Besides the bombs detonating, leaving the corpses in almost impossible ways to be carried, but the doors of the prvious rooms were being sealed as well. You could argue they could take the body from the woman in the bathtube beforing letting the door seal, but if you check the timer they had only few seconds to take the cables off and carry her, besides they being stressed at that moment to realize. As much thinking logically seems to make some of this traps easy to solve, we as audinece has the hindsight and not stress o fear going inside our minds like the victims in these films do. Granted, it is not for all traps, some of them are really not hard to think thorugh when given more than enough time, and failling kinda makes the erson look dumb (like the ones in SAW 2).

@stoneymahoney9106 9 ай бұрын

I'd agree that it makes logical sense, but the resources and manpower required to construct the contrivances to force it to make logical sense break the immersion. 1's main room was just a bathroom with stuff hidden in it, and it's side games were pretty simple. It was feasibly that one guy could set this up. But 2 onwards jacked up the level of engineering and mechanical complexity to a level that broke the immersion and turned the characters into weightless ciphers. The result is a movie with all the emotional attachment of a crossword puzzle. Only with torture porn and screaming. So it's not all bad.

@juliuswatcher1157 9 ай бұрын

@@stoneymahoney9106 Yeah, thing really start to go way over the top, and that can take away from the immersion. I liked some of the Saw movies based on the ideas and themes, but they had bad execution most of the time. 4 twist and lesson is a perfect example of this problem. Honestly, I am not fan of the genre when it is gory over the top way having people getting killed in most scenes with the traps just for the sake of it. As you said, it loses a lot of weight and impact, with a few exceptions. And just as you also pointed out, it is ludricous as some of this traps and scenario can get. A former Channel Awesome member named Welshy had a incomplete retrospective of the SAW films and it had a gag of how many type of job masteries Jigsaw should have to pull this stuff (architect, electricist, plumber, etc), and he also must have been the one to teach his disciples most of the stuff.

@EpicJasonX9000 9 ай бұрын

SAW VI John Lives SAW VII The New Blood SAW VIII John Takes Manhattan Jigsaw Goes To Hell: The Final SAW SAW X (with Uber John Kramer)

@darkpuppetlordful 9 ай бұрын

In regards to rating the first 5 saw movies, I tend to give 2 some leeway as it was literally a different movie that got retrofitted to be a saw film, so I feel like it was a "we like the idea but can you tie it into Saw that was a hit" situation of studio interference

@TheFatalcrest 9 ай бұрын

😂😂 They waste so many protagonist cops in these flicks, we are constantly losing sequel threads

@Jasper_Silva 9 ай бұрын

Don't worry, the sequels may happen entirely in flashbacks, so it's not a huge deal if someone dies.

@thegrimcritic5494 9 ай бұрын

I think a more interesting argument for John Kramer to make shouldn’t be, “I’ve never killed anyone in my life”, but rather he should say something like, “I’ve never condemned anyone to death in my life.” Because that, at least, is closer to the truth than the whole “I’m not a killer” argument. Because to his credit, all of Kramer’s traps, for the most part, are escapable.

@Sue20022010 9 ай бұрын

You all are amazing. Great editing, too. GG

@theBlackFox15 9 ай бұрын

Its official, we've gotten halfway. Only 5 (or 4, idk how they're gonna do X unless it comes out for streaming sooner) left to go

@GhostLink92 9 ай бұрын

I reckon they're gonna take to the high seas for that one.

@theBlackFox15 9 ай бұрын

@@GhostLink92 forgive me, but I'm not familiar with what that term means. Could you please explain it for a tism such as myself?

@cranberryrosebud 9 ай бұрын

@@theBlackFox15 I believe they're referring to pirating, like sailing the high seas...you get it.

@davidmendez3899 9 ай бұрын

I kinda hate that I saw the twist coming when I first SAW this movie. it’s still probably my favorite just because of the whole “we could’ve all survived if we helped each other” aspect. also my main problem with the next one is that some people had to 😵

@thesmilinggun-knight9646 9 ай бұрын

Damnit I should have SAW this kind of comment coming 😆.

@originalLogen369 9 ай бұрын

Wolf's flaskback timelines was really awesome. I really love his edits

@AliceBowie 9 ай бұрын

These movies always made me think of Adaptation, the brother who writes the stupid thriller and its a huge hit.

@PzychoMantis90 9 ай бұрын

I don't know why Strahm didn't just shoot Hoffman in the back of the head when he had the chance. He has all the evidence he needs with the recording alone.

@joaocarvalho6336 9 ай бұрын

JL's laugh is so contagious I love it

@davidmendez3899 9 ай бұрын

the the first trap has chains. how did we go from whips and chains to whips and chains?🤔🤷🏿‍♂

@zak7an2 9 ай бұрын

"in my personal subjective opinion, killing is distasteful" - Bulbojohn "Jigsaw" Kraggins

@MAXPAYNE485 9 ай бұрын

love the use of the sidebar in these

@liammacgregor1546 9 ай бұрын

That intro is wonderful 🤣❤️

@Leotheleprachaun 2 ай бұрын

"Why would you close the door?!" *nailbombs will do that to a person*

@MBS-HomuZombie 9 ай бұрын

Man, i think there was some amount of potential with this one... They should of made all 5 people work together and survive, as a twist on what you'd think a Saw movie would do. I'd genuinely be impress if they did that, might even make it the best one (though that's a low bar). AND have Strahmhoffman leave the trap room KNOWING that Hoffstrahmmen 'won' because he would escape. Then have Hoffstrahmmen as the spooky-ghost-jigsaw-clone-man that Strahmhoffman and gang are trying to hunt down as he does his trap-tisms. Overall, still very lost on this Saw Saga, it's probably in the middle somewhere out of the five.

@thespanishinquisition4078 9 ай бұрын

I disagree on having all 5 survive. But it would've been great if they showed the contrast between cooperating and not in each trap instead of all at once later. By this I mean: 1-In the first trap. They all survive. There's really no reason they wouldn't, the keys just magically worked by plot logic so just have all 5 make it. 2-On the 2nd show the contrast by having it be so while the journo fights against everyone and gets himself killed, the blonde woman goes into a tube with whoever lets her, showing that indeed 2 can fit per tube had they cooperated. 3-3rd room same thing happens, black woman tries to convince them to kill the junkie just to get killed by the brunette, blondie mostly just stays back, given how she seems easier to scare on the 1st room it'd be easy to imagine she wouldn't intervene. So they fry the black woman. 4-Finally on the last room you now have 3 people, which makes it way more believable they survive. And can show how the electrocution could have been survived by all 5 (since they already know they could have beaten the bomb room and how). You still get 2 gruesome deaths and a horrifying gore moment. But you also get to show how they could do better and to some degree did. Saw is partially beaten, while the 2 with most pronounced character flaws get culled along the way. It. Would. Have. Been. Perfect.

@booperdee2 9 ай бұрын

Seems to me a trend with horror movies and horror movie fans that its not fun if things go well. Essentially people root for the killer which means the killed people need to be dislikable, and not just in personality but in how they act stupid at times as well. If someone dies from something dumb the common reaction is "good you deserved it for being so stupid" and thats how it works. The audience satisfaction comes from everyones gruesome endings, not their succeeding, which for anyone that isnt much of a horror movie fan is pretty dissapointing since we like to see people who are put in unfair positions succeeding.

@MBS-HomuZombie 9 ай бұрын

@@thespanishinquisition4078 going along with your example. I could see the 3rd room playing out with someone dying but not really with the 2nd room, at least with how the tubes are shown. I still think a Saw movie where the whole group survives by working together would make for a more interesting story. (the unfair solo traps can still there to provide the gore.)

@MBS-HomuZombie 9 ай бұрын

@@booperdee2 It's a shame about the part with characters being stupid, that's probably the key thing that makes me not like these types of horror movies. But if it works for the fans, why change it?

@Astroman10 9 ай бұрын

I remember going to see a marathon of Saw movies at AMC theaters when Saw V came out! After 5 gore porns, we questioned every thing about our lives!

@xrphoenix7194 9 ай бұрын

I hate how mean-spirited and nihilistic these movies are. No one ever wins through enginuity, will power and virtue. EVERY. SINGLE. MOVIE. The morally good characters all die horrifically and jigsaw once again wins

@carmandirda 9 ай бұрын

I love how I was thinking "at least that guy can be this world's Doctor Strange" and then Rags made his comment immediately afterwards.

@DaKdawg 9 ай бұрын

This is as far as I got. After this I was like...okay...this is just gonna keep going...ugh. I for one, did enjoy the "we should have worked together" aspect. It's asking the impossible of a person by assuming their human nature won't allow it. It has a small semblance of the 1st film where they struggled to get information to figure out the bigger picture of what was happening around them. The cat and mouse between hoffman and strahm was also nice given that these films were advertised as gorefests. So good on them for including some tidbits. Like I do agree, 3 is the one that angers me the most, but it's also the one that I keep thinking back on because of how frustrating it is. Good on you for slogging through them all. I'm interested to find out what all I missed...if anything. I agree with long man, 1,4,5,3,2 so far.

@Ubermensch9240 8 ай бұрын

"I retract every complaint I ever had." -Rags 2023

@randiesel4353 9 ай бұрын

“Jigsaw has to be the world’s greatest detective” Jigsaw is Batman.

@andreisandulescu9042 9 ай бұрын

It's so cool that you have Rich Evans on the show. His laugh always feels me with joy

@torchedheavily 9 ай бұрын

Every time someone hums the saw theme I hear the bridge from the song live and let die.

@DaKdawg 9 ай бұрын

OH, you're right...Nice.

@poppag8281 9 ай бұрын

can't wait for saw 6! that one is really entertaing!

@christopherkelley1664 9 ай бұрын

The responsibility for killing 8 squatters in a building demolition falls to both the wrecking company and the county. You can't just tell wreckers to knock down a building and they start blasting away - they have to confirm that it's empty or they have huge liability.

@RipOffProductionsLLC 8 ай бұрын

Except when they nock over the wrong house by accident, then it's the home owner's fault for not telling the demolition crew they're at the wrong house(the homeowner was on vacation)

@christopherkelley1664 8 ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC Are you saying they knocked on one house and destroyed the next one over? The responsibility falls on the wrecking crew 100% in that case. Likewise knocking over the wrong house entirely.

@RipOffProductionsLLC 8 ай бұрын

@@christopherkelley1664 I don't remember the exact details since it's been a while since I saw the article. it was a case if a demo crew just going to the wrong address. And yes, morally and legally that crew is at fault, but I think there was something in the story about the local mayor protecting them and trying to shift blame to the homeowner/"no one" and that it had happened like 3 different times.

@christopherkelley1664 8 ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC That's a pretty odd case. For this movie they didn't really elaborate, they just blamed the real estate developer - as if the demo crew were robots without free will or culpability.

@wywrd_mtnt 8 ай бұрын

theyre actually doing the recontextualising for me! I adore convoluted lore

@inventgineer 9 ай бұрын

All I could think of anytime you guys' referenced Jigsaw's hilarious "....TO ME." line......was: 🎤"YOUUUU AAAHHHH SOOO BEAUTIFULLLLL...."🎤 *Jigsaw, huskily * ......TO ME. 😂 Also, I think my soul may be broken, lol, cuz at 56:40 I was imagining Waluigi's "WAAAAAH!!" in place of his scream 😅.

@lukaspersson5882 9 ай бұрын

28:59 "If a subject survives my method, he or she is instantly rehabilitated." According to the Jigsaw-victim-list that Strahm found earlier, Seth Baxter (pendulum man) was victim #3. So, at this point, Jigsaw has had only two people in his traps: Cecil, who after succeeding in pushing his head through knives tried to kill Jigsaw, and Mark, who failed and burned to death. Of course, there's also Logan from 'Jigsaw', but as far as we know he wasn't even properly "tested".

@SuperKillJoy15 9 ай бұрын

Saw V Was the first ive seen and all i remembered were the trap rooms, everything else is basically new to me

@booperdee2 9 ай бұрын

I watched the first 5 a long time ago and i remember the 1st movies room and the 5th movies main room. Even after watching these EFAPS as they came out im struggling to remember what traps were in the other movies

@JonathanJStoneblack 22 күн бұрын

"Hell Bob. You have spent your whole life eating at McDonalds and never one tried the deliciousness of the nuggies. How can you call that a life? There is a chainsaw on the table. You must sacrifice 20 appendages for each of the delicious nuggies you refused to enjoy. Fingers and toes do not count. But don't worry Bob, I've never killed anyone."

@melonetankberry5211 9 ай бұрын

i don't care for any saw whatsoever. but the edits/outros ensure it will have been worth my time.

@Beuwen_The_Dragon 9 ай бұрын

Also, Been Slacking on the Playlist organizing lately, Longmin. Have to do a lot of hunting to find previous EFAP MINIs and Shows. Allocate if you must, would be nice to have convenient playlists. ^.-.^

@jfwalken 9 ай бұрын

I feel bad for Cary Elwes all these callback references and nobody mentioned the Doctor in 1 was in Men in Tights, Princess Bride, or among the best guest stars in Pych

@Mapelassj 9 ай бұрын

got my glass of rum, ready to be entertained

@eduardoalvarez7546 9 ай бұрын

I mean when you think about it, just for the sake of the plot, jigsaw believing he’s not actually killing anyone is because he’s just so delusional that he believes he’s saving them. Not that far fetched as serial killers in real life have tried justifying their own actions,but realistically someone would tell him straight up it’s murder.

@Galvatronover 9 ай бұрын

The problem is the rest of the cast and the creators trying to convince u he’s right

@dw2384 9 ай бұрын

The way fringy didn't realise it was Darla from buffy/angel mauler was referring to was disappointing

@Schlumbuo 9 ай бұрын

is random fat guy truly the first person to fight off the magic pig man. Truely a person of our times

@Crimsin19937 9 ай бұрын

47:17 "i would at least try the piss thing" 😂😂

@lootwigvanwegen 9 ай бұрын

Awesome Francise! This EFAP. Not those movies.

@pieshka4509 9 ай бұрын

16:52 Hey, that's the guy that was the main bad dude in the last splinter cell game

@bZman 9 ай бұрын

Strohm was my favorite protagonist of these movies

@roadlifeproductions4905 9 ай бұрын

I’m a touch disappointed in you, MauLer. With your history of referencing Buffy and Angel, you’re just gonna ignore Julie Benz just right there. And ignore a potential Vampire joke considering she’s suffering from blood loss. The General Kenobi joke was good though.

@TheSatisfiedPig 9 ай бұрын

11:08 that article also advises explicitly against it because it's actually really fucking difficult and dangerous to attempt to penetrate skin, muscle, and cartilage with an instrument like a ballpoint pen and it's likely to make things worse. Highly unlikely you could one shot that on yourself when you can't even see what you're doing.

@jole5468 9 ай бұрын

Efap guys litterally unaware that you can force your nose shut

@DaKdawg 9 ай бұрын

I was going to say, you wouldn't think you could, but so long as you were to breathe from the Trachea and not from the mouth or nose, it's possible.

@elementSe34 9 ай бұрын

27:32 I wonder if that f***er was the inspiration for Dexter: New Blood's disappointing villain.

@Etheriix 8 ай бұрын

I didn't expect to hear Bruce Wayne from Mauler in here

@countD8852 9 ай бұрын

Hello again everybody! It's time once again to enjoy a hot meal after a long day of work and enjoy the latest EFAP Movie! I certainly hope this one doesn't start in a distressing way like the last 2 did!

@RestrictedAudiencesOnly 9 ай бұрын

Mauler: that was never my object for Rags to get pissed, but I had to highlight exactly what it was that Fringy missed. My intentions were to subtly point out the Shanshu Samsara. I went through the whole vid without name droppin *****