Everything You Know About Ableton Live’s Arrangement View Is Wrong

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I once believed all 5 of these things. But then I unlocked the power of arrangement view in Ableton Live for live performance.
So you think you know what arrangement view is all about? Think again.
Here are 5 lies way too many people (including me 10 years ago) believe about arrangement view:
Lie #1: Session view is for live performance while arrangement view is for recording
For live looping? Yes. For running backing tracks for your band? Not so fast.
Lie #2: It takes too long to build a set
The exact opposite is true. Watch me build a 4 song set in less than 5 minutes in arrangement view 👇
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Lie #3: Arrangement view takes more CPU
Watch me debunk this (5:48 minute mark)
Lie #4: You can’t have freedom and flexibility
Watch me debunk this one, too (8:29 minute mark)
Lie #5: You could just use follow actions in session view
Yeah, you can, but it takes way more time formatting that in session view than in arrangement view.
Congratulations, you now believe 5 fewer wrong things than you did before watching this video.
Did I change your mind? Do you still disagree? I’d love to know! Drop a comment below and let’s (respectfully) discuss.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:41 - Session View is for Live Performance & Arrangement View is for Recording
4:02 - It takes too Long to Build a Set
5:11 - Free Track Template at fromstudiotostage.com/template
5:48 - Arrangement View takes more CPU
8:29 - Not having Freedom & Flexibility using Arrangement View
9:20 - Can’t you just use Follow Actions?
12:45 - Free Track Template at fromstudiotostage.com/template
14:01 - Outro
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@tunptl18 Жыл бұрын

Fair point on linear performance vs live looping

@sonnyducks 3 ай бұрын

I 100% think that arrangement view will push you to finish songs. You build to the left (the finish line) vs building down (adding loops/layers). Making beats....session view is awesome. If you making full songs....give me arrangement view.

@BenAngMusic Жыл бұрын

100% agree with you because of an experience during my recent playback show when the director wanted to practice the songs (with dancers) from certain specific points within the songs, which were *not* where I had made clips for session view, I wished I had prepared the show in Arrangement view instead

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

oh gosh....I know that feeling. I just wrapped a show that could not happen if it wasn't in arrangement view

@jdssurf Жыл бұрын

Hey bud, so I can drag my writen arrangement view songs to session, put them on a clip, they are for bars in arrangement, but when I put them on a clip, and now I know to click the clip twice and it brings up options to loop it, the bar is longer than 4 so there is a little dead space before it loops around. I have to shorten it manually, what am I missing? Ive used Ableton a couple years but need some back tracking since I mainly write in arrangement.

@Arian-abbas Жыл бұрын

How can set ableton live tracks view, start from left not from right in arrangement view..?

@javierf55 2 ай бұрын

I think a good daw must be one consuming the less possible time to an exercise of just recording some guitar and drum fills. Ableton becomes a headache for just doing that.

@InaktiverUser Жыл бұрын

is there a way to move the track bar on the right side to the left side (track bar= where your MIDI, AUDIO tracks are)

@vitamin3076 7 ай бұрын

Hey man since you seem to know ableton pretty well, can you answer some novice questions I have, coming from FLstudio How do you move the loop and start markers in sampler at the same time? How do I move audio that is in Simpler/Sampler onto an audio track? How do I only record audio instead of arming two tracks and recording midi+audio? How do I record on input rather than recording via countdown?

@ntsikintsele6971 3 ай бұрын

Hey man Do you have a video on how to use Ableton live with Push in a church setup?

@jdssurf Жыл бұрын

I write in arrangement, I've dragged the tracks to clips in session but i can't get them to loop.......how?

@vascocosta3720 Жыл бұрын

How would linear performance work with controllers as akai apc40.mk2, launchpad pro etc...is there a way to change the vertical to horizontal in these controllers? Psychologically would make more sense to me to have it horizontally

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

I don't suggest using grid based controllers in Arrangement View. Your only real option is custom MIDI assignments and alot of tape so you know what you're pressing. They're great in session view though!

@white2833 Жыл бұрын

Hi Will, I watched earnestly your videos about using your template to format my songs (done), and as individual ALS songs all work great! I couldn't figure out in your videos where to put MIDI tracks that have an AU plugin and I then play along with the tracks with MIDI controllers so I simply created 1 or 2 MIDI tracks inside the song group, assign a keyboard and it plays along great! But...Now, when I go to the set that combines your songs together, I made a 10 set list quickly, but as I played the MIDI controllers, ALL of the AU's in all of the songs played simultaneously, regardless what song was playing. Not desirable. What I'd like is that only the MIDI tracks in the actively playing group are activated for AU playback. Or, what am I missing?

@white2833 Жыл бұрын

Well, my workout is to extract the MIDI tracks from each song group that I'm using to play live parts on my controllers with, and each time just before a new song starts I have to mute the outgoing tracks and unmute the new ones. Typically either 1 or two. I'm sure that this isn't the right way, can I automate this process or improve it?

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

I use chain selector when using virtual instruments

@4thebrotherhoodofficial Жыл бұрын

Will. God bless you. You’ve watched the whole of your Ableton series and managed to confidently adapt and build my own set. Can’t thank you enough brother. 🙌🏾

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words...So glad to help!

@anthonyellis5517 Жыл бұрын

It’s not wrong! It’s a matter of preference.

@heyjavey 9 ай бұрын

The major limitation with arrangement view is you cannot loop MIDI clips in a live setting. Otherwise it is much better for a professional live set

@fromstudiotostage 9 ай бұрын

i'd have to hear your context to know more but options-chase midi notes will probably solve what you're looking to do!

@bascurtiz Жыл бұрын

How would I play one track after another on auto-pilot in arrangement view? Example here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbZ6o8R41bmZZKM.html

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

check out all the tracks content on the channel. That's the native design of arrangement view, so they just flow into each other.

@bascurtiz Жыл бұрын

@@fromstudiotostage Yeah, I meant something else =) But got it working! Check: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJmFoM6Sm62UZo0.html

@TrentCrawfordMusic Жыл бұрын

Ide lovvvvvvvve to use arrangement view - BUT - For example: In session view i’ll have a intro scene which has a loop at its completion, so when i’m ready to go into the verse i’ll then fire a scene which is a transition to the chorus scene ( in legato mode ) which contains a drum fill / smooth transition to the verse…works great. I can’t see a way to do that in Arrangement… Sure i can just go to chorus like you are doing in your videos - but with no fill or transition… Love to hear any ideas / work arounds if anyone has any. Having legato mode work in arrangement would be a game changer for me. 👍👍👍 *I’m firing all of this from the floor - computer is off stage fyi.

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

I do a similar thing, I’ll loop a section and when I’m done I disable the loop and move to the next section, or jump to another section.

@youtube_user_number_one Жыл бұрын

@@fromstudiotostage Are you using your mouse on stage to set up the loop start/end times as you go? Can only see a way to have one loop section set up at once in arrangement

@NexusChurchBrisbane Жыл бұрын

@@fromstudiotostage Do you know a way to set multiple loop markers in arrangement view? For example, if I want to loop the intro to song 1 and loop the breakdown before the bridge in song 2, is there a way to set this without having to move the loop region on the fly?

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

@@youtube_user_number_one I either pre-program loops or use previous locator to trigger in real-time. Search the channel for loops and I've got a few videos showing how to setup multiple loops.

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

@@NexusChurchBrisbane yes! Check out the channel for a few different videos walking through the process

@allancerf9038 Ай бұрын

@fromstudiotostage Nice video but what TrentCrawfordMusic mentions is the same thing I do though I go a bit further than Trent. Disabling the loop and (I presume you do) clicking on a locator to jump is nowhere near as fast and elegant as firing off a scene. But wait, there's MUCH more. I key map my scenes and it's ridiculously elegant and fast. But wait, there's even more. I have say typically 24 scenes - one for every lowercase letter in the alphabet (I reserve lower case x to start the metronome, lowercase z for the stop button.) Dude, that's 24 scenes I can fire off with split second-timing particularly if you set quantization to 1/16th or 1/32. You do NOT need to use follow actions which I've never really got into. Repeat DO NOT. My method of 24 scenes fired by letters obviates the need for follow actions and allows me to record elegantly into arrangement view. Then muck about in arrangement view and then use Ableton's second greatest feature, "consolidate time to new scene." This gives me the linear approach you so love as well as unparalleled control over playbac from session view. But wait there's still more. Using 24 scenes (or many more, you could use uppercase letters and there's 48 tracks, then numbers, special characters, etc., via key map). No matter how safe you believe arrangement view to be there will come a time that you will make a mistake and damage your set. True, you could use one of Live's many backups. But say you wiped out bars 12-24 say, all I have to do his hit "lower case c" at the right point in the damaged arrangment (by putting a locator at bar 12 and the a loop brace covering bars 12-24) and voila, it's recorded with perfect timing, back in the arrangement view. And yes I've created a template, all set up, just as you have but with my method. Not that there's anything wrong with yours. The advantage of mine is I have both complete control of BOTH arrangement view, and session view, simultaneously. By the way, the most powerful feature in Live - maybe you've done a video on it, maybe not, IS the arrangement view and until it was copied by other daws, the most powerful feature in all of audio software. If you have a good ear and have recorded to a click, to get incredible arrangements, you just scrub with the mouse in arrangement over 'juicy' sounding parts, or create a juicy section with the loop brace and then scrub (you can turn quantization off altogether if you like for this task) and you're sure to locate cinematic, amazing contructions. Best, Allan

@AB-wy7dr Жыл бұрын

Too much talking about talking.

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@AB-wy7dr Жыл бұрын

@@fromstudiotostage awesome channel tho 🤜

@NickFromNetherlands 11 ай бұрын

Ableton no video, no tempotrack no chordtrack no ARA . Cubase has it all.

@fromstudiotostage 11 ай бұрын

Sounds like you’re happy with Cubase-I would keep using it! Ableton does have video and tempo track just FYI

@geet77777 8 ай бұрын

look at 20 people who use ableton and look at 20 people who use logic. Notice the differences.

@fromstudiotostage 8 ай бұрын

Ableton people are happier and live longer-that's a scientific fact

@NickFromNetherlands 11 ай бұрын

Ableton has terrible control layout in arrangement view . See Reaper , Cubase. The i/o , mute, solo fx much better.

@fromstudiotostage 11 ай бұрын

I would suggest you use reaper and Cubase!

@chasewilson9912 Жыл бұрын

I knew all this shit already so I wasn’t wrong

@fromstudiotostage Жыл бұрын

Currently editing title to “Everything You Know About Ableton Live’s Arrangement View Is Wrong (unless your name is Chase-who already knows all this shit)”

@chasewilson9912 Жыл бұрын

@@fromstudiotostage lol 😆 thanks bud

@jimmie999999999 7 ай бұрын

why are you constantly changing camera angles? it's info, not a stupid tv show! it makes it impossible for me to watch without being distracted. remake the video and i'll subscribe and give a thumbs up but this is a big thumbs down

@fromstudiotostage 7 ай бұрын

jimmie999999999, please accept my dearest apologies for any inconvenience this video has caused you. I thought this was a stupid tv show, and clearly you've shown me the error of my ways. I hope you will accept my deepest and sincerest apology.