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@gracieeasly61175 ай бұрын
“I thought that the world was evil… so I had to be worse” What a villain
@imge5095 ай бұрын
She really took it as a challenge
@fezsquall95 ай бұрын
"Oh you're a villain alright! Just not a SUPER one!"
@warlordofbritannia5 ай бұрын
That’s some Adachi level justification
@alexiz00135 ай бұрын
@@fezsquall9 I shouldn't laugh, but lmao 😂
@Ssosmooth695 ай бұрын
@@fezsquall9Oh yeah, what’s the difference?
@jeanthemachine0075 ай бұрын
Her "the world was evil" excuse is batshit insane
@nono95435 ай бұрын
some actual disney villain logic!
@nono95435 ай бұрын
@Gigakoopz. shut up
@Gray23595 ай бұрын
@@Pwrge_Time 😐🫵👉🚪
@BlizzardofOze5 ай бұрын
Sounds like some Church of Latter Day Saints bs
@jackblades905 ай бұрын
she spend too much time on twitter
@dealforbet88885 ай бұрын
It's heartbreaking to think of all the children out there living in similar conditions without anyone knowing. Every child deserves a loving parent, but not every parent deserves a child.
@Opiis5 ай бұрын
🤖🤖🤖
@Sig_P2295 ай бұрын
Think of the worst person you have ever met in your life. Now think about how that person can serve in the military and have kids. 😳
@DivinityAwakened5 ай бұрын
If I keep seeing the same exact sentence being regurgitated over every single comment I read, I might lose my fvcking mind. Original thoughts just don't exist anymore...
@richardthelong5 ай бұрын
Why you commenting?
@Ex-Daemon5 ай бұрын
Some people cannot face their actions, some people are misguided, some, like me live in a state of chaos. This is why I prepare to fight, so others cannot feel the pain and sin of others, evil can never hide, not from justice.
@barleyteaa5 ай бұрын
Glad she's facing charges, but no clue how the dad got off. If you look at the timelines, he absolutely facilitated abuse and ditched.
@barleyteaa5 ай бұрын
Also his daughter makes father's day posts with her male role models, not with him. Something happened.
@warlordofbritannia5 ай бұрын
@@barleyteaa Or, rather, nothing happened and that’s the problem.
@lornetc5 ай бұрын
Look up Jodi Hildrebrandt she has a history of breaking up Mormon families (with the assistance of the church) in order to take advantage of women and abuse children. Ruby has culpability in this though she wasn’t as naive as she portrayed herself to be.
@NeshaBoo215 ай бұрын
@@warlordofbritanniawhen you watch their Channel you see he was a big part of the abuse. He was there when their oldest son got sent to a camp and got his bed taken away for several months
@Megan96895 ай бұрын
Becuase theyre Mormon, in a mormon-ruled majority capital(Salt Lake City, Utah) and theyre known to baby the men, punish the women so it makes sense to me...
@ZaWrldo5 ай бұрын
"Children need abuse" is a crazy phrase
@TyrannyOfBenevolance5 ай бұрын
I was stunned when I heard that and still can't believe someone could say that in defense of their revolting behavior
@mattd52405 ай бұрын
It makes me wonder what pit these monsters crawl out of.
@TorchicNidoran19945 ай бұрын
@@TyrannyOfBenevolance growing up Latino this is normalized
@FarzynoMusic5 ай бұрын
It is a crazy phrase, but as long as child abuse continues, it remains true.
@Dipj015 ай бұрын
its like the bully symphatizers who think children need bullying to "grow" up
@SpilledShelf55 ай бұрын
At this point I have 0 faith in any family channel. The amount of stories I've heard of child abuse is absolutely bizarre
@OfficerAntiUTTP5 ай бұрын
I’M BETTER THAN PENGUINZ0 + UTTP FOR THE WIN
@ILikeSuperSaiyanGodGoku5 ай бұрын
Except for @UploadsofFun
@ThisGuyDannyyy5 ай бұрын
Bro these bots
@MrUssy1015 ай бұрын
They are parents and it’s their choice how they bring up children. They brought these children to the world so it’s their responsibility what character they build.
@malcolmad1575 ай бұрын
🤫🧏♂️
@AldrickExGladius5 ай бұрын
4-60 years? 1-15 years? Who TF is coming up with these numbers?
@WirableCrown15 ай бұрын
0.2 to 4 people
@squeaphily73255 ай бұрын
surely you mean .5 to 70 dwarven men?@@WirableCrown1
@Fkthepolice-kz9bm5 ай бұрын
Dark robed tyrants
@SemiIocon5 ай бұрын
They agreed to a plea deal.
@CMP-st5wh5 ай бұрын
Judges. The same people who, among other things, have sent White guys to prison for life because they had "the n-word" on there phone, and convicting single police officers to life on 2 charges of murder for the overdose death of a drug addact. Oh, but they'll gladly give gang banging mass shooters second chances.
@entegi5 ай бұрын
My girlfriend grew up in a household like that. She was beaten, insulted and multiple times starved her close to death. With 17 she found an opportunity to escape from it. We got together two years later, she was still phyisically and mentally scared from that and now 5 years later still hasnt fully recovered from it, despite her being a mentally really strong person. Doing something like this to your OWN children should not even have the posibility of getting you anything less than 20 years. A person who is willing to do this to not just anyone but their very own child is not a person that is safe to be free.
@issober01105 ай бұрын
The "justice" system is fucked. I hope you and your partner are able to fight her struggles together. Just remember to take care of yourself and not push away your own problems. Good luck to the both of you, much love from Norway
@Gelatogigi5 ай бұрын
@@issober0110 Hello ! I just watched a video on Norway yesterday! You’re country is very interesting!!! Much love from Texas USA !
@demo24975 ай бұрын
Im so sorry to hear that. It’s barbaric that this behavior is being promoted by grown ass adults…
@sunnlust5 ай бұрын
I am the girlfriend in this story I want her to know it gets better
@TheDragonSeer5 ай бұрын
I went through similar. 7 years later and I feel like I'm only now able to get started on getting better. God bless you and your family and thank God you are in her life.
@livingcorpse56645 ай бұрын
"I thought the world was evil...like me!" You need a theater for that level of projection.
@Noobpopcan5 ай бұрын
JESUS FUCKING CRIST YOU AWAKENED THE BOTS
@Gray23595 ай бұрын
These bots are fucking getting outa hand.
@Suninrags5 ай бұрын
Stealing that analogy
@cmac61365 ай бұрын
She did one of the most evil things you can do. She is disgusting
@harlan70125 ай бұрын
LIVING CORPSE! How's it going man? I haven’t heard of you since your old channel got taken down. Really sucks that happened, I really liked your old reviews and godzilla vids.
@ToriHiragana5 ай бұрын
I was raised in Utah by a abusive single mother. Its amazing how many warning signs and outcries went unheaded because "children are better off with their mother" mindset here. Neighbors in our apartment and my dad called the police and child services multiple times and the lady who responded saw our home was clean and we had mormon books and crafting supplies and she concluded my dad was just being a vindictive husband. I was finally able to bring attention to my situation by fighting back until my mom couldn't handle me anymore. Everything came to light and I got placed with my wonderful grandparents and finally my dad who raised me to be the confident woman I am today. I shudder to think of kids who aren't getting help and attention
@angelikaskoroszyn84955 ай бұрын
This is a great example of how sexism is bad for everyone. Women shouldn't be treated as default care takers. Not every woman wants to be a parent and definitely not every woman should be a parent
@agsheuehd5 ай бұрын
How is the Mormon book passed off as a green flag?💀💀
@gobalbucs5 ай бұрын
@@agsheuehdUnfortunately, it’s a very bright green flag for other Mormons. They are particularly tribal.
@silentotaku85 ай бұрын
@@gobalbucsI’m from a Mormon family and can confirm this is true.
@teijaflink22265 ай бұрын
There must be so many children who live with more extremistic Mormons, FLDS as example where the children live under as bad or worse conditions where nothing happens to the abusers. I'm happy that one cult abuser finally got charged but it makes makes me feel so angry too became there are still thousands of children who live in the FLDS cult (which is much worse than mainstream mormonism) with trafficking, child abuse, sexual abuse, child marriages where children work all day for free instead of going to school. They do anything to hide their crimes and abuse against children. I have heard absolutely horrifying stories from people who have left this cult, the abuse they experienced as children and that it's still going on
@itspiercecotter64675 ай бұрын
I got sent to Anasazi and met Chad out there. Really nice kid. Kids were out there for being addicted to meth, aiming guns at parents, Chad was out there for pranking his brothers.
@FleuryKaprizovFan_5 ай бұрын
Yikes
@crisptomato94955 ай бұрын
I’m glad you made it out, those places are hellholes.
@qwertyuiopas15933 ай бұрын
chad
@cheesychan5 ай бұрын
There's just no way the dad didn't know. The abuse had been going on for 4-5yrs, he only stopped having contact within the last year... he's not innocent in this. God I hope these poor kids are in a protective loving home now, withother family members and not that useless father.
@mr.ashenfire26245 ай бұрын
I wouldnt be shocked if he was also a victim of abuse. Male victims are largely underreported out of shame. And in a place like Mormon Utah, you better believe its under-underreported.
@cheesychan5 ай бұрын
@@mr.ashenfire2624 that's a fair point, that hadn't even occurred to me. What a horrible situation either way it goes.
@justingovas4155 ай бұрын
@@mr.ashenfire2624 He seemed to enthusiastic for him to have been abused though....
@TheeEnglishKnight5 ай бұрын
@@mr.ashenfire2624 nah, if you watch older clips he actively defends and talks about the shit they put their kids through. neither him nor ruby were brainwashed, fuck em both.
@CMP-st5wh5 ай бұрын
Deflecting responsibility. Cringe
@annienunyabiz66275 ай бұрын
She only started sobbing when she talked about being divorced. When speaking about abusing her kids, she distanced herself from it by saying she had been deceived into committing illegal acts, and she was perfectly calm. She does not give a damn about those kids. She has not become "unbrainwashed" to use her language. She is not taking accountability.
@Lucaz995 ай бұрын
Bruh, she wasn’t brainwashed to abuse kids, she was only brainwashed to hurt them in specific ways Jodi recommended. But she already abused the kids beforehand. Jody was the one who engineered the divorce. So maybe she actually regrets the latter not the former.
@Velereonics5 ай бұрын
how does that show she isnt brainwashed. If anything it supports that she was.
@aaronabbey26045 ай бұрын
She wasn't "brainwashed" at all. That is a bs excuse she is telling herself to justify the abuse. She and the other horrible woman deserve no sympathy.
@Xenolithial5 ай бұрын
@@Velereonicsif she was abusing the children before the other woman was involved than she could not have been brainwashed into abusing the children. If a person kills a bunch of people and then someone comes along and starts giving them tips on how to do it more effectively, the first person is still a murderer all on their own
@annienunyabiz66275 ай бұрын
@@Lucaz99 I am using her language, which is distancing language to try to remove herself from the damage she actually caused. She said she had been brainwashed. I obviously don't think she actually was brainwashed. All Jodi did was teach her new methods of abuse; she was always abusive though.
@wadedevinney96815 ай бұрын
Look, I had strict parents growing up. But that just meant for me that I only got to play video games on the weekends and I didn't get allowance for the chores I did. There's a difference between "strict" and just flat out abusive. Strict parenting actually requires a fair amount of effort, abuse is lazy and evil.
@jaydub25465 ай бұрын
Exactly. I on the other hand actually got paid for doing chores as it taught me about life. Never work for free lol
@dethkillerspiral5 ай бұрын
Good point but no allowance is an L tbh
@Chosen_One5 ай бұрын
Only play video games on weekends and lose allowance? Damn you had it made.
@tiryaclearsong4215 ай бұрын
@@jaydub2546 Different parents go with different philosophies. I didn't get paid for chores but my allowance was based on school performance. Chores were an expected part of being in a household and becoming an adult. School was my "work" and my parents wanted to incentivize me to study, do my homework, and try to do my best. One of my friends had a myriad of ways to earn money but by 16 her parents expected her to pay for everything she wanted or needed aside from clothes, rent, and utilities. So she had to buy clothes, school supplies, and any extras she wanted. Sometimes parents won't give kids an allowance for chores but they still get an allowance or their own money in other ways.
@jacksonstephens-eb5dj5 ай бұрын
I don’t get payed at all… and I tried so many different ways 😂. First I tried chores and they said no, than I said school they said no, than I tried to yard work and they said no, than I tried negotiating lunch money so every week I would get left over lunch money in my account
@jackschoon70805 ай бұрын
My mother was exactly like that and when I was around 13 I eventually ran away to live with my father. I remember later in life when I joined the army and was going through basic a drill sargent asked me "you seem to not be bothered by any of this? The yelling the violence anything? Why is that?" And I told him "this just reminds me of growing up drill sargent, just you can physically hit me so not as bad drill sargent" They never really messed with me or yelled at me to much after that
@jackschoon70805 ай бұрын
To add I understand why the abuse happened for so long and publicly aswell, I remember when my father was fighting for custody a judge said outright "a mother can't be an abuser" and multiple time when I lived with her and cops where called they essentially made the same point "a mother can't abuse a child"
@Jartran725 ай бұрын
Drill seargent is supposed to break you apart and build you back up as a soldier who follows orders blindly and worships authority, ready to kill for the country. Kind of weird that they would just abandon the deconstruction with you. It does not matter if someone suffered abuse really, it is about builing soldiers. Was that Marines or Army?
@jackschoon70805 ай бұрын
@Jartran72 army but I never really fucked up or showed disobedience, they still would fuck with me just not as much personally. (still got the same group punishments as everyone else) ik later in cycle I asked a calmer drill why and he said "you never really needed it, you already had discipline and never disobeyed in anyway so wasn't needed and you seemed to not mind it and would just tank it so wasn't worth the effort" Edit: infantry oset, so 22 weeks of basic training essentially to clarify To add no that's not the point of basic training it's part of it in a way but as our drills always said "we don't want robots we want people who can think independently and do there job and respect those above them however use common sense" if you didn't have respect show discipline or common sense or couldn't do the job correctly that was corrected with yelling and pushups or embarrassment
@bigcatdiary085 ай бұрын
Cool made up story Mr 13 year old
@AngryBoozer5 ай бұрын
When you order a parenting guide book, but they deliver Gulag Archipelago by mistake.
@seanmatto22585 ай бұрын
LMAO
@lilscenechick19955 ай бұрын
Jesus 😂 Why is this so apt though?
@pseudoruu5 ай бұрын
FOUL LMFAO
@cheeseburgermonkey71044 ай бұрын
This
@aymara91523 ай бұрын
🥇
@ChilledNurse5 ай бұрын
She raised her KZfaq channel better than her children. Christ.
@MonsieurEldritch5 ай бұрын
Yeah no shit, what a lukewarm KZfaq comment 🚽
@2guys1cliplol5 ай бұрын
Even then she deleted that 😮
@transsnack5 ай бұрын
@@2guys1cliplol given the state they were in, it sounds like she tried to do the same to the kids. But, like with everything involving her children, she failed.
@bonk65615 ай бұрын
Well, one is easier than the other
@xTROLLINGx5 ай бұрын
you don't own your kids, the government does and they will assign them their gender not you.
@annienunyabiz66275 ай бұрын
Do not, DO NOT give any leeway to Kevin Franke! He was abusing them on camera for YEARS! Even by Ruby's statement, that she had a "distorted" world view for FOUR years, and they had only been separated for the last 1 year. So he saw and was okay with her behavior for at bare minimum THREE YEARS before it had devolved to this point. He knew what his wife was. He knew what Jodi was. And he willingly walked away, washed his hands of his children for over a year because he cared more about his wife and marriage than he cared for his children's safety. That man is every bit of a monster as Jodi and Ruby.
@RandomPerson-cf3gt5 ай бұрын
He neglected his children and neglect is abuse
@JutlandAngel5 ай бұрын
I'm still like 95% certain that it was Jodi that recommended that the oldest son should be send off to the wilderness camp.
@Suarez055 ай бұрын
Kevin deserves at least Some Form of Punishment for just RELAXING and not being there.
@RandomPerson-cf3gt5 ай бұрын
@@Suarez05 losing his parental rights? I heard that no contact with children for more than a year can lead to losing them
@fruityfruitpunch5 ай бұрын
@@JutlandAngel And he complied. She may (and I do mean may) have had the idea but it took two to agree to go through it. They both profited from it. Weel him out to the side of the road to be collected on garbage day--- he's just as bad as she is.
@RandomUser8P5 ай бұрын
Imagine being an adult who has been putting their kids through all this torture for years, and then sobbing when you receive punishment for your actions. “The world is so evil for catching me!”
@krisperry7105 ай бұрын
As a father of a daughter who was abused by their mother and one of her partners, I didn't have an option to see my daughter when I wanted to. There were months and even years when I didn't get to see her at all besides through pictures. She hit everything from me. I wasn't even able to see her birthday or on Christmas. It was a really horrible time. My daughter is six now. I had a court order started and then it just got completely restarted cuz her mom broke the court order and just took her away from me again. She's actually brainwatching and manipulating my daughter to think that I'm doing wrong things when all I've been doing for the last 6 years is trying to get her back. I finally got some progress. Got her for 2 months and then her mom completely ended that without any consultation of the court or anything. So I'm back to square one not seeing my daughter again and it's horrible and kind of terrifying not knowing what's going on. She completely cut off all my contact with her and whenever I try to see her she just says she doesn't want to see you. Sorry for the little rant, just wanted to throw my two cents in.
@TheDragonSeer5 ай бұрын
Never give up on getting your daughter back. God bless you.
@Jartran725 ай бұрын
Parent is a life long commitment. Fight for every minute with her but.. don't fight in front of your child. She deserves to be tought better conflict resolvement than yelling and hitting. She deserves love.
@irecordwithaphone18564 ай бұрын
That's so awful. You are a great father for doing that much. I hope you get her back
@GalanofTaa-rw8dkАй бұрын
You got this brother.
@michellesmith7704Ай бұрын
Damn
@pauwula5 ай бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that the abuse was already happening way before Ruby met Jodi, and Kevin had no issue with it. Plus, he tried to press charges against his own daughter for "theft" when he noticed some video cameras were missing from the stuff he was given back after they searched the house (mind you, the daughter was gathering evidence and he hadn't set foot in that house for over a year at that point). That doesn't sound like the behavior of a concerned parent that supposedly "had no idea what was happening", go figure
@dangerxbadger23005 ай бұрын
He was also there for the taking away of Chad's bed, and sending him to Anastasi where kids have DIED bc of staff neglect.
@YourSuccubus5 ай бұрын
america is built by and for white men.
@tylergannon73985 ай бұрын
There’s no way he didn’t know. Even if he wasn’t there for the worse parts he knew something was wrong
@khamomilekitty5 ай бұрын
Yeah ok he sounded fishy to me and this confirms what I was thinking. Dear god if there is any good in this world I hope these children don’t go to him where they will continue being abused.
@vihmaussivenitaja5 ай бұрын
He was completely ok with constant emotional abuse, occasional withholding of food and extreme controlling, I guess explicit physical violence, literal 24/7 physical restraint, and constant withholding of food and water is where he draws the line 🤷♀
@Cr1TiKal_Archive5 ай бұрын
I think being a family vlog channel is a giant red flag
@simppoland86515 ай бұрын
Charlie can you please get off helldivers 2? i know youre on it rn the cue is too long
@ThisGuyDannyyy5 ай бұрын
All these bots
@redred2225 ай бұрын
@@ThisGuyDannyyy i know its bad right, spaming the crap ever where
@anomalousanimates5 ай бұрын
YOU ARE NOT PXRGE, LIL BRO@PurgeTime
@mr.ligertiger5 ай бұрын
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc He covers whatever’s relevant. By your logic, every journalist ever is a “real scumbag” for following trends.
@anuvongvatanadilok23335 ай бұрын
As someone with a father that is a united states marine, he has quite a reputation among his peers and colleagues (he is a doctor now). Never, ever has he laid a finger on me in an abusive way. If I ever acted up, he would make me work out, like they do in the corps. We're talking walking 10 laps around the block, marching up and down stairs a metric poop ton, or jumping jacks for an hour. My father said it best: there is a stark difference between discipline and punishment. You discipline kids, you punish criminals.
@robertschnobert90904 ай бұрын
Discipline is a two way street. Your father is an old man and it's your turn to discipline and control him now. Does he abuse drugs like alcohol regularly? Take away his car. Does he have anti-American opinions like racism? Take away his electronics. He needs to learn his mistakes have consequences. 🌈
@jfangm5 ай бұрын
I can see how Jody manipulated Ruby. That being said, Ruby had the ability to say "NO" and refuse to abuse her children.
@jfangm5 ай бұрын
@hay-leyhoo Judy convinced her to separate from her husband. That means Judy convinced Ruby that it was in her family's best interests. Ruby was definitely manipulated. However, that does NOT excuse her from responsibility. She still has free will and could easily have said "no" at any time. She didn't, making her even MORE responsible for the abuse. She could have stopped it, but CHOSE not too. THAT makes her evil.
@cyrinainskeep3955 ай бұрын
All kids deserve a parent, but not all parents deserve kids
@ThisGuyDannyyy5 ай бұрын
Omg these bots are gen alpha
@TheDiamondCore5 ай бұрын
@@ThisGuyDannyyydidn’t you literally spam things yourself in the worst videogame video or something
@SalsaConMesquite5 ай бұрын
BARS
@danteshollowedgrounds5 ай бұрын
Yes
@The.Nasty.5 ай бұрын
@@TheDiamondCorebecause he’s a sock account trying to draw attention and focus to the other sock, it’s not a bot, it’s a mentally ill person who’s chronically online and makes new account on a near daily basis… Very sad attention seeking behavior. Just report every one of them you see as spam and he’ll move on to building Sonichu out of legos, eventually.
@EverGardens5 ай бұрын
Oh the husband, Kevin, is 100% as responsible as Ruby Franke. He just got lucky that he was living separated when the child escape happened- he used that as an excuse. If you look at their old videos (re-uploaded in multiple places), you will notice that he was always involved and complacent with the kids punishment long before Jodi was in the picture.
@elchaperone25635 ай бұрын
he was definitely complicit in this.
@Bigcadder895 ай бұрын
Yup. If he wasn’t actively involved he certainly did nothing to stop the abuse
@edwardmorris66345 ай бұрын
did the kids go to him then?
@arec63455 ай бұрын
He definitely responsible. Man straight up abandoned his children
@BlackHearthguard5 ай бұрын
Are you saying he was complicit in the abuse, or complacent to the abuse? A little confused here.
@NateyCat5 ай бұрын
The most effed up part, as a Utahn, I won’t be surprised if they’re let off easy (minimum sentence). They were a “looked up to” kind of family and around here would embrace that kind of behavior. It’s sickening but it’s true. So many children are thrown out on the streets because they don’t believe in Mormonism. Or just that they won’t abide by ‘parents ruling’. It shouldn’t be a weird statement to say ‘my parents just let me be me’ but that sentence is not common in Utah. Controlling parents are considered normal ‘good’ parents. It’s terrifying the amount of even not children, adults in their 20’s are just trying to escape and they can’t. Utah sucks.
@TheDragonSeer5 ай бұрын
Mormonism is a cult
@alexiz00135 ай бұрын
Damn... 😢
@averyeml5 ай бұрын
Not to discredit anything you said but my brain couldn’t get past “Utahn.” Is that really what y’all are called?
@Junebuuuuugggg5 ай бұрын
@@averyemlYeah lol. I’m a born and raised Utahn and one time when I was out of state on vacation, somebody called me a “Utahnian” and I nearly gagged.
@Junebuuuuugggg5 ай бұрын
As I said just before, born and raised Utahn, and everything you said is completely true, and painfully sad. I’m also, unfortunately, born and raised mormon. I stopped believing in the mormon church years ago, but I still live with my parents and am always pretending to still be mormon because I’m so scared of how they will react. What if they kick me out? What if they take everything away from me? It’s not a fun situation and I despise the mormon church for the pain it has caused me, and thousands of others. With little to no separation of church and state, people who are mormon get away with a frightening amount of bullshit under the guise of their “beliefs”.
@Guerita725 ай бұрын
One of the saddest parts of this is something Charlie skipped over in 9:15. At the bottom, it says the child thought she was evil. That's going to require a lot of work and the right people in her life to overcome.
@numberonesnarkfan5 ай бұрын
I was abused in a similar way (it's sadly common) and that "the world is evil" justification is what my guardian used as well. They think they're making you tough and disciplined and ready for all the abuse you're going to face as an adult by getting you accustomed to it as a child, while simultaneously warning you that everyone else wants to do even worse things to you. To them, children "need" abuse because they need to get used to how the world works.
@icypastasauce72405 ай бұрын
Glad to see you’re still here, keep your chin up. Good shit.
@jazay5915 ай бұрын
It doesn't make sense, because really the world can be cruel (not to the schizophrenic degree of the people like in the video, but) you'd want to build your child into a confident independent person so they can try their hardest against any negative forces they encounter in their life. Not raise a beaten, abused, and weakened person whose mind will fold under the lightest strain due to being treated like they're worthless. It's all just delusional thinking/deception to continue exacting terrible things on the innocent.
@Heheheha-sh5zh5 ай бұрын
I hope your ok no one deserves such horror
@gangcurtin47315 ай бұрын
@numberonesnarkfan Im sorry to hear that bro. Keep moving forward and spread love! Love out brings the love in! 🙏❤️
@sfarsitulumi5 ай бұрын
It's bad that you went through this, but it's not common at all.
@lordchaa15985 ай бұрын
Jodi has been doing this type of abuse for decades, she really was the mastermind in all of this. Jodi is notorious for ruining relationships in the Mormon community. She’s the psychologist who specializes in child & marriage counseling. The child in question who escaped, escaped from Jodi’s house, not Ruby’s. Both of these women are monsters and should be under the prison.
@arathsg98245 ай бұрын
You think they’ll remove her license to practice ? If she even had one to begin with
@Rebecca-bk9bd5 ай бұрын
@@arathsg9824her licence already was revoked by the time she met Ruby
@scoper78975 ай бұрын
@@arathsg9824 well probably now will when charlie is gaslighting the whole think to try and cancel her.............
@ceraunoashe91345 ай бұрын
@@scoper7897 what???
@brookelynnwu80165 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with you at the end but she didn’t become evil and @busive from Jodi. She was already that way and Jodi just encouraged her to escalate.
@user-vv7ik3yn4p5 ай бұрын
The father deserves to be in jail as well imo - dude was in the videos and participating in abusing those kids before Jodie came into the picture
@Xyzzy915 ай бұрын
I had strict parents and I was the rebel type of kid but they never, never lift a finger on me. They ground me, but never hit me or prevent me from eating or any basic needs. And I'm so grateful for my parents because I know I wasn't an easy kid at all.
@crusadercarl62695 ай бұрын
So she just really expected us believe that she was the victim? Like did she really think, "You don't get it your honor. I was tricked into thinking treating my kids like its Guantanamo Bay was a good thing." would work?
@D_YellowMadness5 ай бұрын
Yeah, all she probably accomplished with that defense was lowering her chance of getting a shorter sentence.
@SaphirBeere5 ай бұрын
Honestly this excuse is not that farfetched, Jodi has been doing this crap for decades before she came across Ruby. Ruby has adopted Jodis beliefs and "parenting" style. Jodi actually unironically believed that the devil lived in misbehaving children. And Ruby was her magnifing horn, through which she spewed this stupidity into the general public. Ruby doesn't get a pass for mistreating her own children. Absolutely not, but Jodi needs to be persecuted for her previous crimes and serve life in prison for sure.
@AmethystTheEspeon5 ай бұрын
Completely out of touch with reality.
@NotoriousFoxxx5 ай бұрын
The most fucked up part is what if she really did think that way? (Of course im sure its all bullshit and she's just a terrible evil monster) but what if she really feels that way? Thats so fuckin scary. How many insane people are our there among us right now
@wz95735 ай бұрын
@@NotoriousFoxxx Oh I've little doubt she does see herself as the victim here. She used to see herself as the hero, the one who does the necessary hard choices for the good of her kids. Now she FINALLY understands what she did was no-excuse evil, she sees herself as a poor little victim, manipulated out of her choices. Anything but take full accountability.
@emperorgoose1665 ай бұрын
More and more of these families are becoming unmasked and I think it's great
@Jen-hen5 ай бұрын
THE ⭐TYRANNY⭐ OWNS THIS CHANNEL AND ALL ITS FANS 😂😂😂!!
@MrUssy1015 ай бұрын
They are parents and it’s their choice how they bring up children. They brought these children to the world so it’s their responsibility what character they build.
@ThisGuyDannyyy5 ай бұрын
2005: KZfaq 2025: BotTube
@OfficerAntiUTTP5 ай бұрын
I’M BETTER THAN PENGUINZ0 + UTTP FOR THE WIN
@LukeTheNotSoFunnyCheetoMan5 ай бұрын
Thank God we have Charlie to expose them
@Mousyy5 ай бұрын
Charlie, I'm just going to say this from personal experience, expecting the justice system to do what its supposed to is a fool's errand. I watched somebody do heinous monsterous shit to myself and people close to me, have multiple people step up in questioning admit he had done simular things to them, and then get let go from trial because they were deemed "unfit". Now they live rent free in their fathers house with no job and no prospects for the future. People who still trust the system haven't seen it in effect.
@Mousyy5 ай бұрын
Sorry for the rant, just hits close to home with the family abuse aspect.
@AdaireKrickets5 ай бұрын
In my opinion , the system is set up to protected abusers more so than it is to help victims. And abusers come in all flavors of human. I wish people would understand this.
@Phininx5 ай бұрын
@@AdaireKrickets Maybe one day.. but I am afraid not in our lifetime.. human brains need to evolve further on a more emotional level to start seeing the result of these sort of actions on the global scale.
@respectdat15 ай бұрын
The system is to protect those who are truly innocent. It is made to be extremely difficult to infringe on the rights of those accused. As Thomas Jefferson stated when he and the rest of his colleagues hundreds of years ago were leading the 13 colonies to become a nation, "It is better to let 10 guilty men go free than it is for one innocent to be found guilty." The criminal justice system has tried to remain this way ever since then. I feel this is why we feel as if the system is worthless. It is unfortunate that... there remains truth in that statement... whether or not it is worth to let 10 guilty men free... that is the decision of the people... but we fail to address our concerns with our congress. And even those who do contact their congressional representative, we as a people vote-in absolutely horrible members of society. Heck, over half of Americans don't even vote at all, then they still complain.
@neffdigitydog5 ай бұрын
@@respectdat1 But innocent people get locked away all the time. So in reality we have 10 guilty going free while the 1 innocent gets found guilty. The worst of both worlds.
@SpaceShip-Orion5 ай бұрын
She really said "we live in a society"
@ldg14145 ай бұрын
Amazing that boy went to get help, it seems like most kids in this kind of situation begin to believe that they can't rely on adults for help.
@EugeneOneguine5 ай бұрын
And that comes from your experience in this field, right ?
@ldg14145 ай бұрын
I've watched a few true crime podcasts, so I'd say I'd consider myself a bit of an expert on the topic.
@EugeneOneguine5 ай бұрын
@@ldg1414 I understand.
@crisptomato94955 ай бұрын
Thank god the neighbour finally did something, the system failed these kids multiple times when SHE WAS LITERALLY FILMING HERSELF ABUSING THE KIDS like does CPS just wait until the kids are already dead to do something?
@jack85805 ай бұрын
@@crisptomato9495unfortunately that's how it usually goes
@rumpkusbumpkus9265 ай бұрын
As someone who went through this it sucks and I wish the kids the best. Unfortunately CPS is horrific at least in my experience. I got lucky my aunt adopted me and raised me into who I am today. Edit: Thanks guys! Love the good vibes and support, I hope you guys are all doing okay. Love you guys ❤️💯
@ThisGuyDannyyy5 ай бұрын
Ofc there’s bots
@Vsmassl5 ай бұрын
Damn, bots in less than five minutes. Glad you didn’t get treated like trash by CPS.
@gnarlydabs5 ай бұрын
They have a dad
@ItIsYouAreNotYour5 ай бұрын
Because it's typically more important for the child to be with their real parents, so they over emphasize that fact and force it where it obviously should be.
@longbottomleaf69185 ай бұрын
I also went through some pretty horrific things as a child and yeah, CPS is so bad it would be funny if it didn't ruin lives. My mother would have been sent to prison for 10 years if I wasn't gaslit into saying I lied, which CPS instantly believed 1 DAY BEFORE THE TRIAL. Actual dumpster fire of a system.
@TitanicDwarfanGiant5 ай бұрын
We need to remember that Kevin was complicit in the abuse and neglect his children faced during the 8 Passengers vlogging years. He mightnt have been active in the more obvious abuse with Jodi and Ruby, but he still did visit the house they were at a couple of times, and still didn't see the children.
@Petethedeadboy5 ай бұрын
I don't trust the dad at all. He's just as bad. No way he didn't know.
@Jartran725 ай бұрын
He was literally in the video orchestrating and participating in the abuse. He was a part of it, DOCUMENTED ON VIDEO WITH AUDIO. Like wtf? Why is he not charged? What is the prosecutor doing?
@shockmazta31165 ай бұрын
@@Jartran72 I'll say it again, you sweet summer children, be so fucking glad you're never been in the same abusive relationship he or the children were in. Because if you think like this, you're not ready for what really goes on off camera.
@charlieseen5 ай бұрын
Kevin Franke tried to weaponize the cops against his oldest daughter for taking cameras from the family home. When it was revealed he had no right to charge her, he got mad at the cops. Tells me everything I need to know abt the guy
@sonicexereaper68145 ай бұрын
Imagine being in one of those people deciding the sentencing, and started being hesitant despite the evidence being in plain view. But when someone gets caught with a small baggie of dope or leaks a game company’s secret project by hacking, there is no hesitation or second thoughts about them since those 2 crimes are “more severe” than murder, r4pe, neglect, etc. Those judges better not reduce the sentencing.
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole5 ай бұрын
A judge cannot sentence someone in Utah, the judge can only give a range and the parole board determines the final sentence.
@jod4225 ай бұрын
Come on man even Charlie said that that isn’t gonna happen
@Mynipplesmychoice5 ай бұрын
We’re the only country in the world that incarcerates our beautiful people. Ruby Frankie is super hot and shouldn’t serve a day in prison. Just make sure she doesn’t go near kids, it’s not hat big of a deal and requires no drama s
@khamomilekitty5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but most in the justice departments of law are in the pockets of shitheads, so that’s usually why they let things like hate crimes and r*pe go. In this case, it’s so clearly cut and dry abuse, I can’t imagine even the most morally repugnant person in the Utah justice department would have an easy time reducing this sentence. If they try, they’re getting a big pushback.
@Spectrum01225 ай бұрын
What he says is still valid though
@TooningIn20085 ай бұрын
Ruby cries crocodile tears about the “EvILs oF tHE wOrLd” when she herself is one of them
@adamlawson98245 ай бұрын
Hopefully this leads to an investigation into their church. FLDS is well known for these kinds of situations.
@imnotfunnybro5 ай бұрын
Family channels almost never turn out well, have we not learned from a certain Father Of Five that you should never bring in family on the yt grind
@leigha28145 ай бұрын
It's wild that kevin franke hasn't faced charges considering how much child abuse and neglect happened on the 8 passengers channel, which can't be blamed on hildebrant & was entirely on the two parents. It's why the eldest daughter ran.
@leigha28145 ай бұрын
@@neffdigitydog so what? Just because there was worse that happened shouldn't negate the fact that he participated in starving and neglecting the children as well, but it did. Hia participation isn't speculative, it is on video. That's a miscarriage of justice for these kids. Child abusers are not suitable guardians ever. These kids have other relatives that actually were ignorant and never did hurt them.
@leigha28145 ай бұрын
@@neffdigitydog other than, you know, them saying it? Multiple times?
@leigha28145 ай бұрын
@@neffdigitydog the Frankes bragged about depriving their children of food on 8 passengers. Why do you want to defend them so badly? People like you are so bizarre.
@turtles89455 ай бұрын
@@neffdigitydog You are. You're defending the dad. He was there. He helped make a decision to take a child's bed away. He chose to do nothing knowing full well his children were being starved. And it's on a public KZfaq channel for everyone, including the legal system, to see. So who's really the troll here?
@longbottomleaf69185 ай бұрын
As a person who had to go through horrific and unspeakable torture as a child, but basically got gaslit into lying for my parent so she never faced any serious consequences (and continued the abuse, albeit to a lesser degree), I am so fucking happy that the mother and accomplice are getting jail time. To this day, as a 30 year old, I STILL have serious anxiety and panic attacks whenever someone comes into my house loudly. As a 4 year old, I could tell by how she closed the door and how her keys jingled as my mother came home, if I was going to be beaten that night. The amount of times i've been thrown down a flight of stairs by my hair or locked in an empty room with no food or water for days, is uncountable. Fuck these people.
@toolfoolmostrom62545 ай бұрын
41 here and yeah that shit stays with you forever. The only good thing that I got out of it is that I could never ever spank any of my kids because of the stuff me and my sister went through.
@oskarvnz5 ай бұрын
That sounds horrible I’m so sorry for you and what you went thru.
@patriciamurfitt45905 ай бұрын
So sorry you had to go through that. 😢 It makes me very happy to see this TNUC in prison for years to come 😅
@KayGreylai5 ай бұрын
I understand, PTSD from child abuse here too. They should be getting life, and your parent should have to face consequences as should mine. But at the very least you can stand proud and say that you're a survivor, cuz you had to be tough as nails to get through that in something resembling one piece. You diddnt deserve any of it but you survived it like a bad ass. I hope you're doing well.
@RachelAnnTaylor5 ай бұрын
Fuck these people. It's not your fault. I'm so fucking sorry. Its not your fault.
@toastysarahh5 ай бұрын
Kevin was no way in the dark completely. He used to participate in parenting videos and it was only after Ruby connected with Jody that they separated and I'm sure the abuse escalated from there But Kevin was around when his kids were denied food and places to sleep
@TheOGPlatypus5 ай бұрын
From what I’ve heard about the case from other KZfaq documentaries or run downs of the situation, I can believe Ruby Franke was manipulated or at least tricked into thinking her kids deserved this level of abuse. And that she was already basically abusing her kids before she met the Jody woman by taking away their eldest’s bedroom because of a prank or not letting one of her daughter’s get food because she forgot to make lunch is still very telling and probably made it where it wasn’t that big of a leap in logic to jump from that to what was happening when she was arrested. That being said, so fucking what if she was manipulated or deceived or not? She still willingly put her kids through hell and abused them. She still deserves this punishment and still deserves for her kids to never talk to her again.
@Jartran725 ай бұрын
You kinda saved it in the end but I still take issue with that comment. No one in this world could convince me to abuse my children, to hit them, to starve them. There are better ways of disciplining a child. You can promise them stuff for good behavior or let them work out if they behave badly, you can tell them stories and talk to them like adults. I am not going to even consider this as a mitigating factor on anything. And I don't appreciate it being called "she was manipulated into doing it" especially if you say she was already abusing them beforehand. More like she took an education class on abusing your children. Horrific.
@bagelisdead5 ай бұрын
@@Jartran72 the only possible explanation is that Ruby is possibly mentally unwell and easier to manipulate. it doesn't justify her choices and actions, but it does explain them. what she did to those kids is still sickening either way.
@TheOGPlatypus5 ай бұрын
@@Jartran72 I also have a hard time thinking of how anyone could possible convince me to abuse my own children. However, it looks like Franke’s abuses only worsened after she met the Jody woman. In my opinion, this suggests Franke is very manipulatable, gullible, a complete buffoon, or some combination of the 3. That’s why I brought up how she already abused her kids, even if not as violently. Someone who is already abusing their kids would likely be more easily swayed into thinking more abuse is necessary. I also understand the repulsion to calling it manipulation, though the main alternative I can think of is saying Jody convinced her that she needed to abuse her kids.
@NotoriousFoxxx5 ай бұрын
This is one of those "A child called it" situations
@warlordofbritannia5 ай бұрын
From the mouth of babes
@em.4155 ай бұрын
The father is trash too for not checking on his kids. Someone else should get custody.
@austinrock76365 ай бұрын
I could see the mother preventing it from happening. I had a friend since middle school whos mom wouldn't let her dad see her at all after divorce, eventually he had to reach out to her from facebook without the mothers knowledge and explain himself. Shit's fucked up in the real world man.
@Big_Ham5 ай бұрын
@@austinrock7636they werent divorced so there was absolutely nothing she could have done to stop him from checking on his kids, dudes a pos
@Regu2695 ай бұрын
Are we now pretending that the abuse only started with Jodi? We know the kids were being abused while the dad was around cause he was literally in those videos. He helped justify the abuse. It's like we suddenly forgot about literally the whole channel and are just focusing on the part that got them caught
@claim0005 ай бұрын
Its so hard being tied to a narcissist. It can feel like being held hostage by a dengerous person. I blame him for not leaving but i also have enough expierience to imagine reasons why he would be stuck. Kids health is the number one weapon that women use against men because you cant seperate them even legally unless they push it this far. You can destroy a man and his children without ever leaving a mark.
@noahhabbershaw81775 ай бұрын
He was living in the house and there When she was sending them to School without lunch and taking their beds away for months at a time
@dannywatson42535 ай бұрын
I'm willing to believe that she thought they were doing the right thing. But that makes it worse, not better. Someone who thinks abusing their kids to near death is justified is a danger to society.
@UberNerdMaster5 ай бұрын
I agree. She's very clearly mentally unwell, because no one in their right mind would treat their children like that, but people here talk about it as though it's some sort of "convenient excuse". There are some pretty worrisome comments..
@GmmBeast5 ай бұрын
@@UberNerdMasterTo quote one of my favorite people on KZfaq (Jonathan Decker from the channel Cinema Therapy): "Mental illness is not evil nor does it lead to evil. It's about our choices." She may be mentally ill, because no normally-functioning parent will ever think about doing these things, but she still made the choice to abuse her children.
@UberNerdMaster5 ай бұрын
@@GmmBeast I didn't mean to imply that mental illness is evil or makes anyone evil inherently. It warps your perspective.
@derekofalltrades54944 ай бұрын
My mom was abused by her alcoholic father to the point where he would drunkenly aim guns at her. She's quite literally the complete opposite of that. She took her past experiences and has done everything in her power to raise us with love
@TheDragonSeer3 ай бұрын
I hope to be that way for my kids.
@Ashesamazing5 ай бұрын
The amount of PTSD an trauma these kids will have for the rest of their lives on top of therapy to work through this all is horrendous. If they don’t give max sentence I’m sure street Justice will kick in somewhere.
@TheDragonSeer3 ай бұрын
This requires capital punishment. If only this happened in Texas where they could actually be punished and not Mormon Utah.
@DsTslylee5 ай бұрын
As a Utahn It's pretty sad how common this is here, Utah Families have some real skeletons
@pleasedonotvisitmychannel5 ай бұрын
Well, how else would they move then if they didn't?
@RoKer135 ай бұрын
It’s the land of the Mormons, those people are all insane.
@user-kc3ol9et4w5 ай бұрын
flordia better :-)
@ohgodwhyamihere42675 ай бұрын
as someone in utah LEAVE WHILE YOU CAN PLEASE THEY WILL TAKE YOUR SOUL AND LEAVE NOTHING LEFT
@crowdemon_archives5 ай бұрын
Pray there's no necromancers there, or else the entire fucking state is going to become a skeleton army 😅
@vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag51125 ай бұрын
As a child abuse survivor I say throw away the key. Out of the crop of children born to my biological mother one has sadly continued the cycle of not holding onto their kids, two are dead, one I’ve lost contact with and only I and the other two youngest seem to be doing ok…well as ok as can be expected given the abuse and then going through the foster care system. I live a great life now and my kids live a wonderful life, but I’ve seen the damage this type of thing does through the lives of my biological siblings.
@danidarkoxo5 ай бұрын
I was also abused as a child by mentally unstable and religiously righteous parents for years. It breaks my heart that children all over are still being treated like this and the parents are so often let off without a hitch!! My mother saw 2 days of jail for 19 years of abuse. My step dad never got more than an interrogation, and he wound up doing even more, unspeakable things than my mom ever did. I hope with every fiber of my being that Ruby, her ex husband and EVERY abusive person faces swift, heavy, and permanent consequences. It’s only fair for the lifetime of trauma these “people” have created in their kids.
@TheSlipperyNUwUdle5 ай бұрын
It’s actually wild that the husband seems to be getting away Scott free tbh. I refuse to believe he didn’t know about the abuse. Maybe not to the horrible extent, but in general.
@Topboxicle5 ай бұрын
The husband was still in the household when their son was deprived a proper bedroom/an actual bed for 9 months, he fucking knew and shouldn't be given custody.
@justingovas4155 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he joined in too.
@Princessbuttercupish5 ай бұрын
even when he wasn't in the household. my ex and I have been split for 10 years but shared custody, you would KNOW if your child was being abused by the other parent. he deserves some punishment for, at the very least, not reporting it.
@potato420295 ай бұрын
Former foster kid here, i heard stories like this all the time. It's always heartbreaking. My heart goes out to those kids.
@MrChinchilla5 ай бұрын
Why’d you mention your a foster kid? I mean that’s not very fun but I don’t get how that relevant.
@Phininx5 ай бұрын
@@MrChinchilla It adds the context where this person is coming from. Why does it bother you enough to cherrypick that part out of it?>
@lavarball12375 ай бұрын
@@Phininxfr
@am53785 ай бұрын
@@MrChinchilla is there a problem with them mentioning that?💀
@azstimato5 ай бұрын
@MrChinchilla It's part of the Aristotlean argument it's called ethos and is basically just credibility
@mmirazh5 ай бұрын
this woman fr went with "because i was born into this world" as a defense on child abuse charges.
@Dice-Z5 ай бұрын
I mean, usually those "back in mah day i was made to gargle nails with oil to build character!!1!1" are usually either abusive people or abused people trying to justify more abuse being done to someone so... yes definitely something like that.
@masterzombie1615 ай бұрын
Anyone remember the movie “flowers in the attic” it’s a story where a mother puts her kids in her mothers attic to hide them from society and inherit her family’s money. She had blamed her mother for being abusive, but she is the one who ordered to have her children poisoned just so she can keep the money and marry someone.
@sinny7215 ай бұрын
The book is much more horrific than the movie.... It was one of my childhood favorites lol. Really makes you think.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred98435 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Ruby's mother had a lot of toxic traits along with Ruby--even if Ruby's parents never stooped as low as Ruby, toxic traits are more common than average in Mormon homes.
@cyberwolf3315 ай бұрын
That was a messed up movie, these poor kids deserve better.
@RachelAnnTaylor5 ай бұрын
I am legit so shocked to see anyone remember/bring that up. I read every book/prequel lol. Truly a disturbing but powerful series and very relevant to this situation.
@JohnWall-lj1mx5 ай бұрын
The incest was super unnecessary tho and was clearly only included because the writer had a fetish
@laggers64805 ай бұрын
There's a massive difference between the word "Discipline" and "Abuse", they clearly knew this but they seem to write off "Abuse" as an aggressive form of "Discipline" which is a mindset that would land you in prison, it's kinda like writing off murder as a simple assault even tho you've clearly did something way more than an assault..
@rosewelch11905 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this before in a super wild case! “Well I didn’t mean to kill him it was an accident! Can I go home?” I believe a woman locked her boyfriend/husband in a suitcase and he died. She legit thought she was just gonna go home since it was an “accident”. Some people are seriously deranged.
@whatisthis19585 ай бұрын
@@rosewelch1190I know that case. It was made worse because if I recall correctly there was video evidence where she was saying shit like "this is what you deserve" or stuff along those lines. But nah guys it was an accident she didn't mean to leave him in there.
@rosewelch11905 ай бұрын
@@whatisthis1958 oh yeahhh!!! I’m pretty sure she recorded a video on her/his phone and thought deleting it would clear it completely idk it’s been awhile. But no yeah it was DEFINITELY an accident TOTALLY. (I’m being sarcastic my deepest condolences to him and his family I feel the need to say that because it’s a sensitive subject.)
@a_burning_rose4 ай бұрын
@@rosewelch1190 The woman (Sarah) actually recorded two videos. He was begging to be let out of the suitcase because he couldn't breathe. She was laughing and saying "this is what you deserve", "this how I feel wen you choke me", this is your fault," etc. She told police that they were "playing hide and seek", but after helping her boyfriend hide in the suitcase she randomly got tired and went to sleep, forgetting he was in the suitcase, which led to him dying of suffocation which Sarah discovered the next morning. Absolute nutcase of a woman. The two in this video are just like her.
@Kriegerdammerung5 ай бұрын
Here in Argentina there is the case of Lucio Dupuy, his mother abandoned him with his father, then during 2020 the government offered money to parents with little kids so the rogue mother came back with a woman partner and re-acquired the minor. The two tortured him, slapping, burning his skin with cigars, deprived him of food until one day he died. It was revealed later that a female judge granted the custody of the child to the rogue mother because. Although the two murderers received 35 years in prison, it wasn't admited "hate against male genre" during the trial because that could have risked the status of Argentinian justice of being gynocentrist. When the couple arrived at prison, the other female inmates beat the shit out of them, lefting one completely unconscious. I think this case was a close call.
@smutshack21875 ай бұрын
Good for you?
@ZP-xyza5 ай бұрын
If you take food away to punish, you’re absolutely aware of what that means. If you harm a child as punishment, you’re absolutely aware that you’re causing that child pain. No excuses.
@steroids_on_steroids22085 ай бұрын
Can you imagine the thought process of this lady, getting convicted and her comeback being “I thought the world was as bad as me”
@itskitt32375 ай бұрын
It’s vile and stupid, but at least that makes for a killer dnd quote
@SmellySandBlanketWoman5 ай бұрын
Can you imagine being 4 foot tall like Charlie and thinking ur hot shit?
@homelessalcoholic27165 ай бұрын
@@SmellySandBlanketWomanLol imagine thinking height matters at all get bent.
@dnaofficiall5 ай бұрын
@@SmellySandBlanketWoman 🤡💀
@steroids_on_steroids22085 ай бұрын
@@itskitt3237 good idea actually
@pokemonmanic35955 ай бұрын
In my experience, whipping/smacking/hitting your children doesn’t make them disciplined: it makes them psychologically afraid and resentful of their own parents. It took years to repair the damage my mom left on me because she would hit me as a kid, and even though both of us have worked on the relationship, that deep scarring trauma still remains to an extent. *DON’T HIT YOUR KIDS*
@Angie7535 ай бұрын
Research agrees with you!
@xera17085 ай бұрын
I used to be spanked all the time by my mom as a kid if I did literally anything. The worst part is I barely remember why she ever spanked me. That's the thing, the kids just remember you hitting them. It doesn't teach them anything but to be scared of you.
@teijaflink22265 ай бұрын
You never forget the fear and the break of trust, even as an adult.
@xeno7035 ай бұрын
i was spanked and turned out just fine
@OtterThing5 ай бұрын
@@xera1708So true. I hardly remember any reason why my mother used to hit me and my siblings. I remember watching her beating my brother, and I just sat there because it was normal. I remember anytime her voice was raised, I would cower and hide, cause I knew anytime she could just start hitting. But I can't remember why she was angry and why she'd yell at us. She was depressed and angry throughout our childhood and she took it out on us. I didn't know that as a kid. Sometimes I envy my younger sister, cause when she was born my mother never hit her. Never shouted at her. Never said anything bad to her. It's really, really hard.
@LinkTheFusky5 ай бұрын
stories like this make me pissed off about people who would walk past the house hearing a kid being abused crying and screaming and just ignore it
@nero95065 ай бұрын
Every "family channel" parent abuses their children and you won't change my mind about it. The simple act of exploiting your kids for money and fame is deplorable enough.
@gracefulannie-grcflannie-5 ай бұрын
If Ruby Franke really believed all she said, she would have talked about it in her videos. From what I remember seeing in other videos about this case, she wasn't shy about sharing her views with her followers.
@kate78965 ай бұрын
Fucking exactly.
@mr.ashenfire26245 ай бұрын
Oh yeah that was a large part of the evidence too. She literally threw one of the sons to a terrible camp thats basically state-sanctioned abuse.
@strayiggytv5 ай бұрын
she literally did that though. She constantly talked about her wacked out Mormon beliefs
@GlassesnMouthplates5 ай бұрын
"The entire world is evil, now let me speedrun and climb up the ranks of the Worst Parents category."
@nicktheplayer2135 ай бұрын
any%
@Jartran725 ай бұрын
@@nicktheplayer213 Nah man they ran trauma% They did that 100% route, all kinds of abuse with maximum trauma. Any% would be much less effort than that.
@nicktheplayer2135 ай бұрын
@@Jartran72 oh yeah my fault og
@CMP-st5wh5 ай бұрын
She ain't no where near the final boss. She hasn't even left the tutorial area yet.
@OpalLeigh5 ай бұрын
Ruby looked at the world, decided it was evil, and took that as a challenge 🙄
@WickerMan735 ай бұрын
I'm sure the other ladies in prison will give em a nice welcome and stay. They're not fans of abusers of kids..
@alvindeo5 ай бұрын
Nah, most of what we know of inmates hating child abusers and chomos is from the male prison. The culture between male and female correctional facility might be very different for all we know.
@WickerMan735 ай бұрын
@@alvindeo nope, women are just as bad as the men for prison justice when it involves hurting kids
@AlwaysM0ndayy5 ай бұрын
Kevin Franke was involved in the abuse during their blogging days (depriving food, depriving a bed, etc.) and actively defended their "punishments" at the time. Not to mention, after Ruby's arrest, Kevin tried to press charges against his own daughter for retrieving household belongings for the victimized siblings in her custody. He may not have put his hands on them, but he is complicit in their neglect.
@dynkitout5 ай бұрын
That little boy is a hero! It's hard to imagine the amount of desperation he must have felt to take that risk and the amazing courage he had to do it.
@whatzittooyah91825 ай бұрын
It’s clear that Franke is trying to go the “pleading insanity” route. She’s trying to claim she had paranoia or delusions. I hope it doesn’t work.
@Ukraineaissance20145 ай бұрын
She is a mormon though so it's sort of true
@survivalhick61255 ай бұрын
I'm all for strict parenting. I'm okay enough with corporal punishment. Make your kids exercise, make their bed, clean their room, no junk foods, whatever. But when it comes to not letting children eat or drink? Prisoners get food. The children were treated worse than prisoners in a state penitentiary. Terrible stuff. I hope those kids can work through this and recover okay.
@DanteV4223 күн бұрын
ah but abuse does build character. it builds characters who are anxious, distrustful, isolated and lonely, temptemtal, and generally traumatized. thats five characteristics right there
@SkateBake4Life5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the modern day Daddy-O Five. I feel so bad for all these kids
@danteshollowedgrounds5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I hope not but it did get bad anyways.
@Gray23595 ай бұрын
@@Pwrge_Time🫵👉🚪
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole5 ай бұрын
Not even close. These two abused these kids to the point where they almost died and required lengthy hospital stays. They were made to spend days outside in the sun and if they "misbehaved" they were bound and starved of food and water.
@SkateBake4Life5 ай бұрын
@@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole you’re not wrong, I was mainly just comparing them as simply shitty parents but the marks on the wrists and duct tape and all that is FAR more unforgivable than verbally abusing your children (not saying verbal abuse is good, still unforgivable)
@ohgodwhyamihere42675 ай бұрын
i recall one of the worst parts of daddy o five was a video that involved the father slamming the smallest child (cody)'s head into a hard wood bookcase@@SkateBake4Life
@KeriBerry4205 ай бұрын
This woman told her very young daughter I'M GLAS D YOU'RE HURTING while smiling and giggling in a YT video explaining why she was in the right for making her sleep on the BATHROOM FLOOR for several days because the child's pain meant growth or some shit. This person is not in some sort of misconstrued state of delusion she knows exactly what she's done and intends to evade responsibility at any cost.
@Miss_Akashiya5 ай бұрын
whatt the fff.. is the video still uploaded on youtube ? do you know the name ? that shi cant be real man what a monster
@informitas01175 ай бұрын
@@Miss_Akashiya you'd want to see that? It's scrubbed from KZfaq.
@beeziebubs27565 ай бұрын
Exactly! Ruby was evil before Jodi came into the picture, and she definitely wasn’t brainwashed into becoming a monster- she was already one.
@WildArtistsl5 ай бұрын
A real deamon
@RaspBerryPies4 ай бұрын
@@informitas0117I think the person is asking more so that they can show other people the proof of her abuse not that they find enjoyment of watching that
@Gabecastaneda20042 ай бұрын
Utah: "child abuse?? Well give you 4 years no more than 30, second chances exist" Also Utah: " IS THAT A GRAM A WEED?! 15 YEARS IN THE SLAMMER FOR EACH OUNCE "
@Aries_TheBullАй бұрын
Very True
@WhyistomatoafruitАй бұрын
I feel like even demons would look at this situation and say “That’s f*cked up….”
@melissaq88545 ай бұрын
Do you know how bad it has to be for them to say it was like a concentration camp? That's insane
@eltooyo25 ай бұрын
Ruby was verifiably a monster to her kids LONG before Jodi entered the picture (verifiable by videos SHE HERSELF made!) so the idea that she's trying to scapegoat the (doubtlessly guilty) Jodi now is simply a transparent effort to save her own skin and would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. Likewise, husband Kevin was complicit in some of the worst of it before he got kicked to the curb and had an extremely suss reaction to his daughter retrieving some electronics from the family home a little while back so he's also triangulating. NONE of the adults here are angels and they all should be doing he hardest possible time, IMHO.
@Bokito25 ай бұрын
3:37 Imagine a topic so vulgar that even charlie almost had a stroke
@jaysongardner61902 ай бұрын
Her excuse is legit she thought that being evil was the "right" thing to do. This right here is the problem.
@Topboxicle5 ай бұрын
Even if she gets maximum sentence, her sentencing should include her not being able to contact the children, because no matter how long she's sentenced she'll take it out of them when she's released.
@hamhamofc5 ай бұрын
"the world deceived me to be evil" is some unhinged shit 💀
@ethanstump5 ай бұрын
As a cult survivor myself, that can be true to some extent, while in no fucking way explains how far and for how long she took it. While you can be pointed in the wrong direction, gaslit into certain things and basically isolated from help and education, it takes someone fully invested in the cruelty to keep on escalating, make sure to consciously hide certain things, and to so obviously deny the humanity of the most vulnerable in society, literal fucking children.
@hamhamofc5 ай бұрын
@@ethanstumpdamn.. cool to here different perspective on this topic
@cassiejenecke86445 ай бұрын
My parents weren’t anything like this. Their only request from me and my brothers was that they wanted us to get passing grades in high school. And when we got jobs, we took care of ourselves but they still paid for a bunch of stuff for us. I didn’t really have a curfew, and I had to negotiate for new things (because if I asked for a new laptop for school for example and my dad got it for me with no negotiation, he would be put in the situation of “why doesn’t he buy everyone a new laptop.”) I was taught to work for what I wanted. I think the way my parents raised me was fantastic, and I can’t imagine how those kids that had to deal with Ruby’s abuse will cope with this whole thing. It’s absolutely terrible.
@AH-fj7vs5 ай бұрын
The fact that they recorded the abuse and even had a company that taught others to do the same thing is insane. We all watched the abuse go on for so long, and she's only being punished for such a small part of it.
@HelloKitty-iq8tt5 ай бұрын
I was friends back in elementary with one of the daughters. I remember asking my friend “hey! Do you wanna play Minecraft with me? I’m lonely in my server” to which she responded that she was just given a lesson about victims versus victors and how I was being manipulative and a bad friend and cut off our friendship. I remembering thinking it was odd but I had no say in the outcome. I also remember her telling me that she didn’t like being filmed all the time but had no choice as she had to listen to her mother. She had a lot of potential and talent. I feel bad.
@nychris22585 ай бұрын
You absolutely cannot trust anyone who has this many kids
@PingasFumberto5 ай бұрын
Mormons are wild lmao
@lincs4life5 ай бұрын
Always remember what you see online is surface level
@mp73115 ай бұрын
Its funny that you mention they were treating their kids like it was the marines, because even in the military, taking food/water away is not an allowed punishment. Depriving necessities does not build character.
@Max_Ivanov_Pro5 ай бұрын
I hope these kids find peace and healing after everything they've been through. No child should have to endure that kind of abuse.
@superpenguinzzz5 ай бұрын
Ruby definitely earned her spot in line to Satan
@user-kc3ol9et4w5 ай бұрын
Whos account was that originally, you obviously bought it.
@Mikazuchireborn5 ай бұрын
I'm terrified that the foster system simply ends up putting them in the care of other abusive adults.
@lemonmeat5 ай бұрын
@@MikazuchirebornCPS being corrupt too sadly. had to witness my partner go through that recently since his state is insane and CPS was money laundering AGAIN, on top of not doing ANYTHING to help him or his younger brothers and not letting him speak for himself. USA is broken.
@grenada93475 ай бұрын
@@user-kc3ol9et4w "Julia" has 3 accounts, all of them shilling a video on how to make 1k $ in a day. I rememver one of the channels was called orange and the other ETH-trading. Now they all are just julia trades crypto
@ImTux5 ай бұрын
2:37 Charlies rants always sound like family guy cutaways 😂
@darklight8713Ай бұрын
How can a father give up the complete contact with his children.
@samantha-lx8nh5 ай бұрын
kevin knew, even the aunts knew kevin should be arrested as well
@gyrthez2465 ай бұрын
More information for you: Ruby's convictions is as a result of her plea deal, 2 additional charges got knocked off of her sentence in exchange for her pleading guilty to torturing her children or was aware of the ongoing abuse of her children and agreeing to testify against Jodi, who also later plead guilty. This was done to spare the victims (who are Ruby's young children) from having to go through an extended criminal trial, having to recount the abuse in testimonials etc. Because of how the law is in Utah, the reason why the maximum is not longer and the reason why it is not considered attempted murder is because of the motive. The prosecutors found that the motive was not to murder but to "discipline", and this means that an attempted murder charge would not stick so it's considered second degree aggravated child abuse. There was 4 counts of this for each woman, which is a mandatory sentence of 1 year and can span anywhere up to 15 years per charge. The reason why it's a second degree felony is because under Utah law child abuse falls into the second degree at most if committed knowingly or intentionally, third degree if caused due to recklessness, and a class A misdemeanor if committed with criminal negligence. Because it is a second degree felony, Utah's maximum sentence for a second degree felony is 30 years, so the potential 60 years they would have faced on the 4 charges (which are running consecutively; so one after the other) is halved to the maximum of 30 years as all of the charges are second degree felonies. We don't know the actual amount of time that they will spend in prison. This is because in Utah this is decided by a parole board. They must serve 1 year per charge by default though, so they will have to serve a minimum of 4 years. The older children were not involved in this criminal case as victims hence why there are only 4 charges of child abuse levied, it's not exactly clear why but it's debated that they could be worried about statute of limitations that could apply to older instances of abuse. Jodi has put her house up for sale for a reported amount of 5 million dollars to try to cover any potential restitution and also because she's being thrown into prison for what will likely be at least several years. It was said in the courtroom at her sentencing that she had not shown any remorse for her actions and had actually claimed on a recorded jail phone call that the kids were somehow the perpetrators and she was the victim in all of it, and that she was being convicted on lies, and that at her sentencing the only things being said would be blatant lies. There are claims that Jodi has done this same exact thing to multiple other families through the Mormon church which supports Ruby's claims that Jodi deceived her into believing these things. Adam Steed made a video of his experiences with Jodi and claimed yesterday outside of the court house in a press conference post sentencing that he and his family have something in the ballpark of 2500 documents proving what he is claiming about Jodi is true. There is no victim impact statement in this case I guess because they didn't feel it was necessary at this point in time while the children are still recovering. There may be a victim impact statement in the future in the civil or family court side of the case or there may be an impact statement shared with the parole board who will decide how long Jodi and Ruby will spend in prison between the 4 and 30 years. There will still be a civil and family court case that will happen in the future, the civil case should be to debate restitution, and the family court case should be to debate custodial rights. Kevin (the previously separated father) does not have custody of the 4 minor children right now. Speaking of Kevin and Ruby, Kevin has filed for divorce and is actively working to gain custody of his minor children. His lawyer has stated that "The treatment these children received at the hands of those whom the children had a right to trust was horrific and inhumane, both physically and psychologically". Kevin is also seeking to have Jodi foot the bill for the costs incurred as a result of getting the children whatever they need to be able to recover from this abuse, stating in court documents "The children remain in professional care for the aggravated psychological and emotional injuries suffered". Strong credit to Emily D Baker (for legal explanations pertaining to this case) and Law & Crime Network (for sentencing footage and conference interview with Adam)
@TheDragonSeer3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@gamingbytetv6655 ай бұрын
Kevin is just as culpable as far as I’m concerned for the following reasons. 1. Separating from your wife is one thing. Completely cutting off all contact with your kids, simply because she said you couldn’t see them is WILD to me. 2. He did absolutely nothing, to get them out of that situation. Not a damn thing. If someone tried to deny me access to my children, I would be in the courthouse YESTERDAY, and telling her and the judge that it ain’t happening, end of story. 3. Even if by some miracle he never once saw them physically, this shit was documented online for 2 million people to see. You’re telling me not one person reached out and said “Hey, somethings not quite right there”. He failed those children 100% and he doesn’t deserve custody of them. 4. Hell, you could even argue he knew about the abuse and that was the reason for the split. People don’t just wake up one day and think “Hmm, I think I’ll starve and beat the kids” there’s always warning signs.
@berserkagain79765 ай бұрын
He was also in some videos to
@gamingbytetv6655 ай бұрын
@@berserkagain7976 Oh right I see, I didn’t really know anything about it besides what I saw here and a few months back. Seems wild he got custody then.
@johnreel87285 ай бұрын
Anytime a parent physically punishes their kid, it’s not out of “love” or a desire for them to be better. It is almost always a lazy way of correcting behavior because the parent lost their temper. It leads to mental health problems later on as well as addiction issues. The argument “well I got whooped, and I turned out ok” is so silly because you don’t know how good you COULD have turned out.
@andysixxstalkerangeloftrag58335 ай бұрын
I Grew up being treated real bad, and I look at my child and I'm like "I hated what I went through. I will never let that happen to you."