Things I learned on this go-around: -Using only keyswitch instances doesn't seem to affect the save times (as opposed to each articulation having its own track) -Although having some advantages, keyswitches have a few disadvantages that popped up in this case (for example, transitioning from a trill to a sustain patch on the same note proved difficult to make sound "not-janky") -For mixing in this test, I tried a different workflow of exporting each stem individually with each different mic position separated (so I'd have a Flute_CLOSE, Flute_MID, Flute_MAIN, Flute_SRND, and Flute_VNTG each as separate files). This worked really well in the mixing stage, although organizing everything in the Logic session was a bit time consuming -To organize all the stems, I put them in folders by instrument, I only realized that I probably should have made each of them "summing tracks," as Logic doesn't allow you to put effects and sends on folders, only the individual tracks. This would have made doing any correction EQ-ing and other mixing a huge pain, so I just skipped that for this mockup (and why you'll probably hear a lot of frequency buildup in this mockup). All in all, there's some things I thought that turned out really well in this experiment. But of course there's also things that I really don't like how they turned out (the trumpets in particular seem to stick out like a sore thumb, and not in a good way). What I'll try next time: -Perhaps next time I'll experiment with mixing keyswitch and individual instances (for example having shorts and longs on separate keyswitch instances), and also doing corrective EQ-ing and mixing inside the original Logic session (instead of waiting to do that until you mix the different mic positions in a different session). -I might try using the effects included in the OPUS engine itself (the EQ and other plugins) instead of the plugins on the Logic tracks. This might give me more control in the original Logic session (especially if shorts and longs are separated and are recombined in the stems)

Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed it very much. My dad owned a movie theatre when this film came out and I was 14. I sat in the theatre night after night listening to this score and studying every little element. I knew nothing about music at the time. Then I went to Daytona Beach and heard the London Symphony Orchestra live. (In those years, they spent a week every summer there.) One morning, as a nosy kid, I sauntered into the hall and listened to the rehearsal. Bill Conti was conducting a concert that evening of film music which had been performed in films by the LSO. Nobody cared that I was there. I went to the concert that evening and went backstage afterwards to meet some players. Maurice Murphy, the principle trumpet, remembered seeing me that morning. And so I went back the next morning, watched the rehearsal, and munched on donuts with the players during a break. Murphy, a very friendly fellow, approached me again and said hello. I told him how I had grown up listening to his orchestra in my dad's movie theatre ever since Star Wars, and he told me about how Star Wars was his first gig with the LSO and how it wasn't exactly an easy score. ("A baptism of fire" he called it.) He said he had great fun with RAIDERS, however, characterizing it as his favorite with Mr. Williams to date. That pleased me. He asked if I played an instrument. I told him I did not. He said, "Well, it's never too late." That summer, I bought a used trumpet from my friend for $35 (he was first chair and bought a better one), took lessons, and soon joined the marching band. One day I handed out an arrangment for the band I had done of the RAIDERS MARCH. It was an awful mess and was never performed. (Years later, I came across it and noticed that it didn't work because I was unaware at that time of a little thing called transposition. The instruments were essentially playing different keys! Otherwise, most of it was fine.) Anyway, I eventually became first chair, studied music in college, and became a professional musician. Fifteen years after hearing Maurice Murphy play the Indy theme on his trumpet, I would find myself doing the same at an orchestra pops concert. It's a great piece of music, but particularly special to some of us.

*"IT'S BEAUTIFUL!"* (head explodes from godly mic setup) Seriously, though, that hallverb effect on the low registers is awesome. I think the trumpet issues are probably more EWHO's sample limitations than anything on your end; in any case the stab/slap-stick parts sound great and for me that's exactly where they needed to shine. You did my terrified childhood justice, lol.

This EWHO Opus recreation of this soundtrack is so fantastic!!!

Holy shit, that sounded really good! I mean, obviously there's no topping the original LSO performance, but for a digital/sampled production it really sounds terrific. Great job, and thanks for sharing. :)

Some of those bars sounded damn close - well done! Great mock up and I always forget what an incredible score this is.

As a musician, this both amazes and terrifies me. On the one hand, it is astounding how far synthesized instruments have come. With a few exceptions, it sounds just about as good as when the London Symphony Orchestra played it in the original soundtrack. That being said, I’m terrified because I hope that synthesizers never get as good as acoustic instruments. I don’t want my career/quality of life being put in jeopardy due to film soundtracks or whatever using only synthesized orchestras to save money.

This is incredible

2:00 is so bloody good 🙌

ALMOST as good as the orchestra. In fact, the chimes as the lid is falling back is even better. I understand now why film and TV are moving away from hiring an expensive orchestra. Fantastic job!

Amazing bro! No words. Very very good job!

Wow, this sounds shockingly good for EW.

God is literally the creator & judge of life itself. He is not good, or bad. He is *God.* But here, you DO NOT mess with/disrespect God.

Wow. Great job. I know that's a pretty complex piece of music too. One of my favorite movie themes! Been wanting to revisit Raiders in 4K to see how it looks. 🎹🎵

This sounds amazing, David!

Super fantastical David!!

Wow, great job!!

I’ve been loving your analyses!! Have you considered doing the score from the tank chase from _Last Crusade?_ I’d love to see the amazing details John Williams has in store for us from my favourite scene in the series.

You're scary man. This is brilliant...........so very close in some moments it's hard to tell......for me anyway. Kudos........very well done. Back to work for me. 👍🏾🌞💯

Excellent on every level. Thanks for the inspiration. Now back to writing. :)

YEAAAAA GO OFFFFFF

That's a lot of work. You did a great job, really pushing the limits of this library. It clearly shows also the weaknesses of EW Opus, especially when it comes to high strings and woodwinds. As much as i like this library i find it partially inconsistent. But this is a very excellent mockup, no doubt. :)

Great work, sounds amazing!

Please do this is halloween from the nightmare before christmas theres some good low reed stuff in there. I would love a score breakdown of that

We have the same color scheme!

4:05 is when you really see the scene

Sounds great. FYI, there is no true divisi, the divisi samples are just the left (DIV A) and right (DIV B) channel of the close mic samples. This means you can make your own divisi from all mic positions, though. Works pretty well.

3:32 The Ghost of Herman Dietrich, Arnold Ernst Toht and Rene Belloq

Amazing work !

Maybe you could do a kind of tutorial for Programming Midi Orchestral Music sometime. Because you get it to sound very realistic.

Wow. EWHO could use this as a demo. For $20/month it seems lie a great deal. I just hope my Mac M1 2020 vintage will handle it . . .David: curious what hardware you're running and if you have the instruments on a standalone drive or if you downloaded them to your internal. You did a fabulous job of emulating the original, right down to the tempo changes. Also curious where you sourced the MIDI (please don't tell me you hand-scored this monstrosity . . .we're not worthy!)

Wow! If you didn’t show us the software, I could’ve never guessed this was a mock-up. You should do a rendition of Helena’s Theme from Dial of Destiny. It’s a great track.

It's Beautiful!!!!!!!!!.....................💀

David, I loved what Opus can do and you make it sing. I got ops not long ago and new to orchestrating and composing, but what is the best way to really let’s this monster? Any help will be appreciated. Thank you for your time.

This is amazing work!! It sounds identical to the original recording!! Please share the midi file! I would love to use this to test out my recently purchased sample libraries!! Thanks!! Keep up the great work!

Maybe you Can record one Line for event instrument and then mix it and balance it in some audio software - you just have the orchestra here - but it was recorded and balances for the album

This is wonderful! Excellent work. I know this was meant to show off a particular library, and that you’re dissatisfied with how the trumpets came out. Have you ever used any of the SWAM Brass libraries? They’re infinitely playable (they’ll even do shakes if you play a shake, and they *don’t* mangle!), incredibly expressive (best used with a breath controller), and they come with all the mutes you’ll ever need.

your work gets a 10/10 EastWest Orchestra Opus is not the best sounding library but for the sale price I paid ($249) it's a barging. I like BBCSO pro more but the loading time is insanely slow.

I liked this part 4:51 It was stronger then original

This is what I want to learn, since I can’t afford an orchestra. How do you plan? Do you have a general idea of all the sounds you want or play around?

This is great. Question, what are the specs of the system you are running? I have East west CC PLUS and struggle with system overloads in logic.

WOW!!!! THIS SOUNDS PERFECT! HOW IN THE WORLD?! 😍💖 BRAVO! OMG TEACH ME! 🎶 Picc tpts?🤩 as a trumpet player I always the high picc tpt sound during the holy fk moment! 😍

Woow

Any analysis of the godfather? Probably the baptism scene.

I wish I had a powerful enough computer to get OPUS. Right now I only use Symphonic Platinum and sometimes it pushes the limits of my computer.

The Spitfire Symphony Orchestra would make this sound much less synthesized. nOt that you didn't do a good job, just saying that the SSO sounds much better than this.

Sounds like you didn't touch the tempo - a little rubato goes a long way to humanize