and deservedly so.....

Ken Arnold he was the best singer in kiss

Beth is one of the best songs that Kiss produed

Singers? I thought he was bassist!

@@fxexpert4541 LOL!

The answer is simple. Those who can't do, criticize others.

@@Rustbukkit69 perfectly put

'highly recommend Peter's book. Great insight, interesting man!

It. Was gene & Paul's control freak complex.

He liked to party way to much and loved Heroin. He was and did fall apart. Became penniless after KISS due to H. Listen again to the song he wrote while in kISS titled "Black Diamond.'..The name of a Heroin he was using. One of the very best KISS or CRISS songs IMO..." Got you under my thumb."

I hear ya,, I'm 56 n an been a fan for quite a while,,, seen it n heard it all

well said!

Ace and Peter should put together a band and call it KISS TOO. If not for real, at least you can imagine how crazy fast Gene would dial his lawyer's number:)

Fatih U. Nothing else to say. U summed it up! Once these 2 were out of the bad it was no longer KISS to me. It was 2 members from KISS and some other dudes ...

Kiss lost their balls when ace and peter left . im sure its a fuckin pain in the ass to work with gene simmons . If I had to make music with gene simmons then I would most likely have to beat his ass cuz he's so fuckin arrogant and I cant stand people like that .

Truthfully i think gene and Paul are fucked in the head

starrdogchamp1 Paul and Gene are assholes.

@Al Connolly Hate to break it to you but they only played on one lame tune. And if you think Peter sounds good on drums on this tune you obviously don't know talent.

What about Rob? He can’t play the drums as hard as he used to due to server arthritis. And as old as he is he did great.

@@twoo57 He was barely keeping up in 96.

@@whataboutrob442 if you think either of the Eric's are better you are crazy

I agree!!! I really am glad to see him here!!

true, but Peter doesn't have much of that "rod stewart rasp" anymore

STRANGE WAYS!!!

Neither does Rod Stewart,LOL

More wilson pickett than Rod steward ( none of your business )

Cool concept...Sick, work's...Peec,from West side Las Vegas .

MAN! THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

freakdaddy5150 Why?

Gene would still sue them.

They can call the new group Space Cat.

That interview was amazing Haha

The footage on Kissology Vol. 1 shows how much Ace carried Kiss musically in the early years. Ace in his prime was the best Kiss ever had.

elpaulerino Ace in his prime Kicked ass.He's a busted up drug Addict now.And useless.and Gene is High on Jewish Ego Juice...Peter Chris is nowhere to be Found..and Paul is the one holding the bag..Well 40yrs is a long time True Believers.. In spite of it all,The Army Marched on..

@@johnhintz4760 Peter criss is retired. He's 70 years old. Give or take a year or two.

I agree and it's nice to see these two together again.

Was really glad to see him in such good shape!! Playing AND singing!!

Absolutely

Do you not have ears??? Listen to this, it is total shit!!!

it's fucking Ace and Peter playing together. it's incredible.

joel jones i agree with ronnie this is real crappy!! the description above says they havent played together in 13 years and it sure sounds like it. plus the camera guy is awful!

Ronnie B. Goode hey you are right how can anyone think that sounds good and u can see the look on all the other musicians face they are face rocking,,ace suck

I agree Joel fucking amazing fuck everyone thoughts this is just great I've seen this like a million times

Ummm...Kiss is used to this. Peter is not. He is also the oldest member. For a party, it was good.

Frank Patek It's ok Frank. Nigel is confused. It's called a "jam". Jam: just getting together and having some fun. Not auditioning or on tour. They either did or didn't rehearse it before they went on stage. It was a party and if you notice, they all had smiles on their faces. Just jamming and having some fun. Don't know if Nigel plays an instrument but, if he does, a little tip. It's not always about being "serious" especially at this gig. Lighten up a little. No need to be Siskel and Ebert about it.

Nigel Ciera I think you're not looking at it from the way they had some of us are looking at it. It wasn't an awesome because it was technically correct, it was awesome because two legends we're together again on stage playing with a bunch of future legends.

Nigel Ciera Thank god with KI$$ Eric the Copyman would at least be singing Hooligan - with Paul on vocals it would be outright unlistenable. In your words; unprofessional. Fool.

Nigel Ciera I'm a KISS fan and I side with them 99% of the time in their disputes with Peter & Ace. But these guys got together with assorted musicians and jammed on some old tunes. Enjoy .. don't analyze. It's only Rock N Roll and I LOVE it!

Hey, ain't nobody getting any fuckin younger, last time I checked. Look at Ginger Baker, he's too fuckin mean to die, and he's still rockin. Look at Lemmy, for fuck sake! All the motherfuckers who wanna talk shit ain't getting no younger neither, so fuckem. (No malice of forethought, just fuckem.) \m/

CrazyBear65 You say it ! :)

...or... your say is...?

JOE FAQURSELF Let's be honest here, in all fairness, Lars deserves the heat. Lol.

Has right on

That's a good idea. They could do the "Dressed To Kill Tour" and have the band all wear ill-fitting suits. There would definitely be a buzz about that tour. I'd make it a point to go and see it.

That's a stupid comment.

Right wtf are they supposed to look like 30

@Lloyd Bonafide lol... As are your posts

I looked 30 when I was 40.

+tony velez amen brother

***** Re-read my comment above & repeat. Don't you have some pizzas to deliver & unlike Ace & Peter you're a nobody whose also to embarrassed to show his face.

And yet......that's all you'd be. The pizza delivery guy.

As if money's the most important thing.....

@@naturalbornscorpio929 thanks for the laughs , much appreciated :D

Ace and Peter rock

They are not in KISS anymore so don't use the word KISS with ACE and Peter, they are losers and has beens. KISS ARMY RULES!!!!

vrguitar, chill out man, I go way back with KISS, one of my favs bands of all time. I have met both ACE and Peter(PeterTwice). Peter was at that time(1980's)was a really nice guy, he was a judge at a Drummer contest at Guitar Center that I was in, i did not win but after the show there was a meet and greet, Peter signed a drum head for me and told me that i was a very good drummer. Now for ACE, met him at the NAMM show years ago,total fucking asshole, he was fucked up and I lost all respect for the guy, everyone was like, what the fuck, your promoting your Guitars and could give a shit about doing business etc. So sad that Peter fucked up with KISS, was very hard to deal with, the drugs ruined him and ACE even fucked him out of money during the reunion tour. So i watch this video and it's really sad how bad ACE sounds and can't sing worth a shit. Peter looks better thank god but these guys are no longer in KISS. KISS is Paul and Gene and Eric and Tommy. That's my point so take it or leave it. Man, we both love KISS so no hard feelings my friend. GG FINN

GG Finn its just so much negativity,man. Ive met Ace too and he was cool. i do think and know drugs have done a lot of damage on both guys, musically and personally but they've been sober for many years now and have turned their lives around. I respect eric and tommy as musicians and some of the past line-ups but its not the same. And i don't want another reunion by any means, it'd just be nice to see them all up there if (hopefully) they get inducted into the R&RHOF, just for the fans. it was painful to watch the van halen and GN'R inductions..so sad. hope this won't be the same. i know we are all here because we love KISS

Well said and point made!! I really hope they make the HOF and all four let the past go and make Kisstory with one last jam! I really think they should have been in the HOF before Van and GN'R, not that i dont like those bands but Kiss has been doing this longer . Take care my friend. GG FINN

DanR67 Yes! Ace and Peter . They got a funk grove going on that for sure . It even gets progressive at the end .If i am not mistaken , they wrote that before they were actually called "KISS"

Shred Sixsixsix It might be my absolute favorite song.

+DanR67 You know it dude

+DanR67 "Black Diamond" with Pete singing is also great . I guess there is some truth to Peter being a drummer who had great beats,although he needed to be pushed with his musicianship like counting,and song arrangement . Come to think of it ,when is the last time you heard a guitar player count the tempo for the drummer ,"1 2 3 HIT IT!" It's just amazing the kind competition that happens within bands .

Shred Sixsixsix I don't think Peter is in any danger of ever being considered one of the true drumming greats, but his work with the band was solid and I don't think they need to shit all over him now. I was just watching Oz on HBO GO and Peter appears in two episodes during season 5. That was a trip.

The fakes would only need to play a hand full of songs, that is about as much as Peter and Ace could handle, drugs mess them up.

Hahahaha funny

Sadly Peter is no longer in music anymore

@@tdrewman wasnt ace more into drinking ?

I'll play Gene, who's playing Paul?

+TruthSurge Paul Stanley has one of the best voices for live shows.

+hammerman7777 Yeah, it was very cutting through all that loudness.

+hammerman7777 Certainly not anymore!! Paul had one of the best voices in Rock n Roll. It's true that most people cannot sing as they did in their youth. But Paul's situation is extreme. He went from extremely good to extremely bad!!

+TruthSurge Thanks for chiming in. I heard what you heard. For a relatively unrehearsedsed show; I thought Ace and Peter kicked ass!

I've seen elsewhere, that Paul had surgery on his vocal cords, and his voice has been getting worse ever since.

honestly? He was always subpar as a drummer.

He can hold the baby but his voice is awesome not so much for Paul Stanley his voice is screwed up terrible no wonder they're calling it quits

Chris talton Dumbass! Paul and Gene are not done until they say they are.

His voice was always better than his drummin, and nowadays it would be almost impossible to keep playin drums, 70 on his back, but voice keeps 100%

He wasn't technical fellow ever, but knew how simplicity works and did good job in every area. Tbh, i'm lucky if i'm alive when i'm 70 years old.

that would kick ass

Kevin Van Rillaer they already did in 1995. The Bad Boys tour. GREAT show!!!

jim, you're an idiot!

Actually, no they wouldn't.

Maybe youll be rescued from McDonalds.

Xenexodus LOL

It wasnt Ace that Rescued the Fake Peter Criss. it was Tom Arnold lol

Shred Sixsixsix $immons and $tanley actually owe a huge debt to Ace and Peter for agreeing to the reunion in 96. If it wasn't for that reunion there is no way $immons and $tanley would still be touring the world and raking in huge amounts of money from their Kiss tribute band today.

charliepeebles Right ! There was the 4th of July concert under the Brooklyn Bridge ,that put them back on the map ,i remember that one .Funny you say KISS tribute band . I think KISS ARMY is the only "Official" tribute band .In that regard I think Gene Simmons is right. To perform a piece of music publicly and make a profit from it,and NOT pay the recording artist ,is a copyright infringement ,where as, a band is owed royalties . Not just with KISS music ,but with ALL tribute bands . I live in New Jersey,which is "Tribute band capital" of the freakin world .They rake in the money not hundreds ,thousands per show . I write and record , if i were making Gold records ,i would want my far share of that pie too!

Shred Sixsixsix Ah, ah, ah. And the Meet and GREED, and the Kiss coffins. It's unbelievable. The first time I heard about the Kiss coffins, I thought it was a joke, I couldn't believe the greedy asshole had the balls to sell coffins. This is insane.

Swiss Militis Christi LXXII Peter Studied Drums with a Buddy Rich Protege ,Ray Luzier . If any one knew time it was Peter.The most progressive Kiss era was ,She ,Rock Bottom,Parasite,Even "Let Me go Rock and Roll" is not "normal Drumming" Many people who are in break up like to come up with their own "Personal revisionist history" and when it's in the press it sounds a lot like propaganda

Shred Sixsixsix Actually its Gene Krupa he studided with.

Well said.....these guys scratched and clawed their way to top of the rock and roll mountain. Nothing but respect. Kudos to both of them.

I do. I'm an Ace and Peter guy, but I believe (and Ace has at least admitted) that he's a chronically lazy guy. Peter, bless his heart, plays very good here but has obviously shown some wear. I believe Paul and Gene exaggerate how useless they are, no question. But I also believe there has to be some truth to it, as there are enough interviews with Ace and Peter to get their true sense. Peter played something like Hooligan as a gift to Eddie. Not that he couldn't have learned it at any time, but it doesn't surprise me that it took a very special occasion to learn it. They played what they HAD to play on that Reunion tour. Love Her All I Can, an amazing song, is one Ace at least plays, so you just have to teach Peter here. All I'm saying is it makes sense to me that with Peter and Ace not having played in awhile, they could only have a limited setlist instead of having 40 songs prepared ready to call up. As much as I love Ace and Peter, that does seem like more than they might be able to handle. But this performance is wonderful.

It's absurd of Paul and Gene acting like they were useless and terrible. How could it even be possible to have a successful band when half it's members are shit?

Probably for the same reason when kiss did unplugged

lol you're right lol didn't notice lol

I don't think that was the issue. Portnoy was playing right. I don't think Ace realized 2 bars after the solo the chorus kicks in again. He was making the "no no" motions to the guitarist next to him.

That's the Alive version. I don't know about you but IMO if I'm going to jam with someone up on stage. It's most likely going to always be the studio version. Especially If Ive never jammed with them. I go with the KISS plan. "Keep It Simply Sam. No pun intended......We'll ok then pun intended.

Richard Panak Oh yeah, addressing your issue. From the studio version, Port should have stopped as Ace starts the riff again. But he failed to do so. It sometimes happens.

Being a KISS fan for many years just like Port, I would have played the Alive! version too. It's the quintessential version of the song. If I'm going to jam with someone on stage, I would do the best version of the song. It's not Port's fault.

They would have never even made it. I don't get how so many people don't see that Gene and Paul made that band. Ace and Peter are clueless.

***** i agree with your statement....no KISS without Ace....

I agree that Gene and Paul definitely were the level heads of the band. Bill Aucoin deserves a lot of credit as well. But, to discredit Ace and Peter for what they contributed to this band? Yeah, they made some horrible decisions in their lives which cost them. For people to throw that in their face make me ask the question; "When is the last time you looked in the mirror?" Everyone has made bad choices in their lives. So for people to point fingers and criticize, I think is hypocritical. Ace and Peter don't deserve all the credit or even as much as Gene and Paul for the success of KISS. They do deserve respect for what they put into KISS. By the way, how many musicians have Ace and Peter influenced to Gene and Paul? I'm not saying they are better than them, just making a point for their contribution.

Nigel Ciera Well he created the KISS Logo, The Space Man, The Starchild, Smoking guitar, Lighting bolt guitar strap. He also wrote many key songs that are still played by KISS today. Even if Gene and Paul formed some sort of band like KISS it wouldn't be the band we know today without Ace and Peter's contribution. Their fingerprints are all over that band.

Nigel Ciera i think people are refering to Aces guitar playing that gave KISS its sound, not who placed an ad where ever. without Aces sound and AWESOME SOLOS who knows what would have happened..its only speculation on your part that ANY guitarist could have filled that spot and have the same outcome.

+AugustusLarch and peter criss did 10 shows while paul did 400 000

+S3b hitman Less than 10 in the last 30 years.

+S hitman quality over quantity shithead

+AugustusLarch True story, it's 110% Gene's fault. If Gene didn't require Paul yelling at him so much his voice wouldn't be put under so much strain.

+AugustusLarch I wonder how many songs Peter sang on this night, not to mention how much did he sing during the year, the decade or the last 4 decades. Paul WAS a great singer while Peter was a pitchy singer back in the day. Peter would sing one or at most 2 songs a night way back in the 70's . Have you ever sang in a band? Singing one song a night does nothing to tax your voice especially if it's a pussy song like Beth. Try singing 18 songs a night like Lick It Up, Love Gun, I Want You, Heaven's On Fire, I Stole Your Love, etc. etc, and then screaming at the top of your lungs between songs as the master of ceremonies. Saying Peter is singing better than Paul in 2016 isn't saying much. That's like bragging that you're hung better than a braille dot. The vocals Peter did here aren't anything to rave about, lol. But I won't critique him too harshly because he is old and way past it at this point.

ACE can't sing. But that guitar.....🔥

yeah i can understand your point....people would pay to see them..the other half of kiss....why not put bruce on bass and vinnie vincent on rhythm???....however i think ace will stick to drummers that he can rely on and are not limited in their playing.eg anton fig

Lol..I'll buy a ticket

they kept showing 'Fan Footage', I'm sure so ppl wouldn't think it was a 'pro'

+ReneeNme His gut is larger than Gene's now but that's about all. Ace is built like that comic book character called Groo. Him and Gene fighting would be a comedy act at this point. They'd both be too lazy to throw a punch and neither of them are physical guys.

+ReneeNme Gene is much taller then Ace.....