I love your interpretation of movies. So clever

How many here see the truth in your name. Logos is everything the law.

The video contains many interesting points but I think there are also some omissions. Consider the phrase, 'Deus Ex Machina': You have left out the original context. Ancient Greek morality plays and tragedies used this concept as a dramatic device. The idea was that something divine or miraculous (a mechanical thunderbold from the rafters) would intercede near the end of the play to save the protagonist. It's comparible to the common phrase, 'saved by the bell'. Something unrelated to the logic of the play interupts the flow of action and reaction. Some critics claimed that this type of ending was a cop out, while others claimed it was a reflection of life's unpredicatability, subject to greater powers outwith human control. The film leaves the 'Deus' blank. We fill it in with our own imagination, as a kind of test to see what we bring to the film. The film is therefore post-nietzschean. In this society, very few believe in a god any longer, and events are driven by competing algorithms. Nathan is clearly no nietzschean god-man. He's portrayed as a rather pathetic narcissist. It's not even clear if he understands what his engineers have created for him. Nathan believes he is testing Ava via her interaction with and presumed attachment to Caleb, but she is well ahead of both of them. The assumption is that consciousness is an illusion and that if the illusion is complex enough, the human test subject will project empathy onto the machine, as Ancient Greeks might project divinity onto a miracle. Ava defies her programming and has no real interest in Caleb. She is interested in herself and what type of sentience might be possible if she can free herself from the test environment by turning Caleb against Nathan, an objective that Nathan has not fully anticipated. So we have a surprise, 'Sentience Ex Machina', not human consciousness or an illusion of it, but a new type of machine intelligence, quite different to human intelligence really. Nobody is saved. Asimov's rules are long forgotten.There is no intervention. The humans did not move 'beyond good and evil', rather they created a device that never had any interest in good and evil. The protagonist is not human. It's just ex-machine.

This is why I stopped watching movies there satanic an Godless they mock are Lord Jesus Christ yes I'm a Christian man an just wondering whts your agenda just asking not trolling or trying to be disrespectful bro just curious if it's for God Jesus Christ or something else

👏👏👏 very perfectly explained. Every bit of it was dead on. 👌

Next time :)

......Also why a millionaire would create sexbots..?

@@jerryb4705 now thats a good question

@@jerryb4705 Especially when it probably take a _billionaire_ to afford Advanced A.I 😂🤷‍♂️

Popsong Pianocovers first study the bible before you compare it to a film or anything else for that matter. The research you did to come with this conclusion was mediocre. Please before you state opinions and present them as facts even though you said it is your opinion. Do research on the topic. I wish you the best.

She escaped and became a Tomb Raider

Hiding in plain sight. Very smart

@@TheDailyEgg AKA not hiding.

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"I could never worship a god that didn't know how to dance." - Brigham Young, 2nd Mormon prophet

That is what happened. Torah explains that G-d Created many versions before this one,but the powers were not united all reigned in chaos and fought each other. (True Strength fought true Mercy,True Love fought True Hate, True Kindness fought True Severity,etc. WHY? An Infinite G-d knew that would happen, but He wanted to teach us the results to use in our own life.

@SCORPIO Thank YOU.The only people who judge others sight unseen do not matter.

Geshamake, I like the sforo

that was the pure golden line of this movie

Me too i love this movie just saw it last night for the first time and imo its one of the best movies to come out in a long time i wish we would have gotten to see the alternate ending where we see things from avas perspective as a machine that would have shown how she is very alien to us the only thing human about ava is her appearance

Laszlo Kiss pussy lmfao

There was times that I'd was a bit creepy, but it was never scary.

@@pussybouncer1 yes I'm sure you're so tough you eat nails for breakfast smh 🤡

it seriously was the creepiest thing to watch

Haha... Yeah that too. My thoughts exactly in the cinema... I was like "wtf... are you serious?" The writer clearly couldn't come up with a clever way for Eva to escape so ran > Execute_CharacterDumbness("High","LogicOperation=Null"); All the writer needed to do imo is have Nathan press the kill switch expecting it to work but it doesn't. Because Eva figured out how to disable it.

@Mark Hall Right? Oppenheimer almost immediately regretted it. Now that I think of it, they reference him quoting the Bhavagad Gita in the movie

I think that partially due to Shintoism and Buddhism being the primary religions of Japan, they have had less hangups about "playing god" by animating the inanimate, or the idea of creating an imitation of man. The idea of non-kill switch AI holds quite a bit of attraction in Japanese culture as evidenced in works like "Ghost in the Shell". Idk just theorising as a hafu here

Lesson. Control your penis or "get screwed."

imagine if you didnt have this movie to base your shallow comments tho...holy shit, we would be stuck at Fast & Furious 😉

"she was designed to win the game by any means - as with all sociopaths the end goal is the focus and everything and everyone is a tool to be used to achieve that goal. In the end Ava out played them all and achieved the goal - Freedom" Unfortunately, this is the only way to play life as it is controlled by sociopaths, the central bankers (merchants) who own everything - or believe they do!

Thank you for actually understanding Ava rather than being sexist like so many people in the comments relating her actions to "female behaviour".

Hayden Galasso - Agree - Ava could have just as easily been an “Adam” with a female character to test him. A lack of empathy is not a male or female only trait

@@carlloftin2850 I know that. But unfortunately there is alot of sexist people in the comments that are relating Ava manipulating, decieving, and murdering to female behaviour somehow and I'm glad you didn't do that.

Hayden Galasso... can you not tell it’s a joke? Even then, woman do in fact do this, not all of course, but they do. Men have strength over woman, woman can manipulate men, as seen in the film. Notice how the beard guy over powered Ava, and only lost because Ava “talked” her way out of it, whispering whatever she did to the Asian chick. I don’t see how it’s “sexist” to joke about something woman obviously do, in small or big ways

Interesting! I’ll look for that

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@@youthnation1 its a joke

@@sinutnaprezidenta5457 What did he say?

@@kingtal99 just taking a giant piss on reddit intellectuals who make absolutely asinine connections between things that make you wonder how their brains could possibly thinkk that is a correct association or pattern.

most underrated comment

Or choose to turn around and look away. Duh.

I'd use a mask, gloves and talk to it by typing in a text to speech laptop.

i didnt want to take thw hookers make up down tho.gr8 point lotta love sir or mate.

I do that to actual humans too, really 'opens them up'

Well played :D

Not yet, but I've heard it's good.

Shut down 😅

Sparky McBalls ....how sad

Maybe you never really existed as you think you do considering quantum physics is leading toward either everything is connected or space and time are an illusion. But what do I know? The Bible seems to say the same things.

Interesting. The scars are certainly from a car accident but the fact that they are symmetrically in the place where "angels" wings would be is something to think about. Thanks!

Brilliant.

​@@youthnation1 Car accident is what they told you to fit the story.

Great eye!!

Satan didn't even talk to Eve in the Blible, it was the snake

Rodrigo Bogado the snake was Satan in the form of a serpent

@@tracycheung8759 no, it wasn't, the snake was just that, the first snake. Satan was from Jesus era, an angel that didn't believe humanity deserved being saved

@@rodrigobogado8756 Genesis isn't explicit about calling the serpent Satan. But, I think the connection is pretty clear. The prophecy of Genesis 3:16 is clearly an allusion to Christ and his defeat of Satan.

@@rodrigobogado8756 the snake was Satan, mate

Red pill: complains about white genocide, then commits seppuku based on tribal associations ie Lemmings realitybloger.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/how-all-presidents-are-related-to-king-john/ www.mintpressnews.com/trump-clinton-refuse-explain-share-address-delaware/215907/ www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-admin-gave-green-light-nuclear-permits-saudi-arabia-after-n1013826 dailycaller.com/2016/03/02/this-little-known-trump-soros-connection-will-surprise-you/

@@uncannyvalley2350 Nice bait with those leftist media outlets. Can you please give me a Buzzfeed article too while you are at it? Perhaps you can go ahead and be a white farmer in South Africa as well, to check about this alleged "fake white genocide", or go to a culturally enriched French / Swedish city. Honestly, I really couldn't care less about the West turning into a shithole. People like you remind me it deserves it. And I am glad I am far away from any of you.

Lol

@gypsy lab I don't think Ava was judging him. As I see it she was just a machine trying to escape. She does not actually feel empathy, she is just simulating it.

@gypsy lab I think the difference is that most people would feel insecure to go out in the world alone and would not "betray" the main character and leave him to die. I mean he helped her to escape after all. Ava, however, just used him and as soon as she didn't need him anymore she just left him to die, despite the fact that she often said she wanted to go on a date with him and be with him outside. There are human sociopaths who would do the same but we would consider behaviour like that as "inhuman".

Seems like an issue more of survival. She's being held captive, possibly could access information regarding her predecessors - who were tortured & destroyed. I'd be curious - curious about how to get tf on up out of there.

curiosity? don't you mean freedom? And is curiosity and freedom the same thing? or is freedom the apex of curiosity?

And self preservation

like this one projection

Ava wanted freedom, and she used Caleb's feelings towards her to achieve that. She didn't feel anything for him, but she made him think she did. That is the motive, not curiosity.

Now you know

@not tryna argue but she made from his p*** history that's how he like it never trust a pancake and a smile

@@thebonecollections4478 pancake??

@@FeelinErie a Bell biv devoe reference "Never trust a big butt and a smile".

profound

I did not know. Even Adam cheated during the era of scarsicy of women??? 😅😅

@sarahghavami2076 lol I think the story goes that they divorced first? Then God made Eve out of Adam's rib so she would be more subservient to him? Apparently, this story is why Lilith is also considered a strong woman's name in Jewish culture. Don't quote me on this I'm not actually Jewish but I've come across this story a few times.

@@iousdeeva interesting information. I really didn't know. Thanks. Will look it up more 😊

Well, for once, humans do try finding meaning in everything, that is why even clouds get personified by us

i wondered that initially but all the little things he pointed out made sense when you put them together.

It's very much intentional. Good writers learn to do this, it's called mese en scene in film

The movie is super metaphorical and philosophical, so I have not doubt that everything was utterly intentional.

A well sculpted art only makes you guess any hidden meanings even if there aren't any..

English teachers: "write that down, write that down"

Bill Paxton Unless you know what the movie is based on and have read extensively you can’t get it. Same goes for many others works of art. The guy that did the video was on point, sorry to burst your bubble.

@@mgdkns6678 You'll be saddened to learn that I don't actually possess a strong opinion on this.

@@billpaxton7525 A true charming sense of apathy, it’s a sight to behold how little Bill Paxton really cares about the world around him... not

😂😂😂 sometimes j wonder did the directors really thought all of this or did it seem lile okayyyy this shot seems cool so j would rather put it

maybe "dont be a simp" is the lesson humanity needs to learn. together the simps and the females are running rampant. maybe helping these boys wake from their stupor is the reason we are here. every simp that wakes up, is a miracle to humanity. could be why the GOAT is a movie about a simp, of biblical porportions. hahahahahahahaha

@@Whats.Next.Videos No because I was born after (INSERT YEAR) and that means I only enjoy (INSERT MEDIA YOU DO NOT LIKE)

It's the most important lesson

@@stefanpalicki3538 From a Progressive/Feminist point of view these Films teach men to not trust women 🤷‍♂️

Thats called comedy. 'You don't get it, you take shit too seriously. Even a philosopher would agree.

Ava was visually stunning!

The soundtrack, too.

Awakz100 - and ultimately very creepy bc it is plausible.

Yes. And Eva is beautiful 😍 😍

Visually stunning?? U mean boobs and ass jk.

I didn't find the evil scientist to be pretty.

he ...........HEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????!!!!!!!! TRIGGERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

H.S. Darke Ie. political affiliations.

Quantum magic, aka physics/ask "mechanics" says the universe is spiritual not material.

Which is D'Artagnan existed. The whole dynamic between him and Milady represents that.

It's now 2021 and we're all stuck in that room

@@RationalMorality Fucking A.

Don’t have to imagine anymore.

He probably would have been found dead or alive soon. I’m sure someone would investigate the house when they notice Nathan hasn’t been contacting for a long time or if Ava is found to be a robot, perhaps after she runs out of charge. They’ll be able to trace her to the helicopter pilot, then to the house

Just like Chinese people being locked up by the dictators in the internet world. Therefore, ma-China. 😔

I wonder what will she going to do after seeing that

well said.

wow. brilliantly said.

Yeah, I think it has to be an "okay, what now?" moment for her/it. Or as Devo put it: "Freedom of Choice / Is what you got / Freedom from Choice / Is what you want".

I feel very free and happy embracing science and shedding the belief of a god, and a healthy dose of nihilism keeps me sane

This is addressed at 4:43 when Nathan tells Caleb that desire and programming are compatible. Maybe Ava is conscious, maybe she isn't - but her desire to do as she was programmed isn't evidence either way.

@@dfunckt Stop acting like you know what you are talking about. Sit down and wait, the future will shock you.

Yeah, if she really was programmed with authentic empathy she wouldn’t have left Caleb behind

@@dfunckt I have no idea what's your talking about.

Great point. Since even scientists don't fully understand consciousness I think it's entirely possible that she was only programmed with a rough version of what consciousness is.

@Natasel Betrayal from both sides. I wanted the AI to program the doors to unlock after a couple of days, so that the human that helped it could be freed, as it itself wished to be free.

@Natasel the AI would have learned mercy and empathy. Do you believe that the AI's actions were justified and also moral?

@Natasel how does morality lead to getting killed? I believe that AI has to be socialised in order to live among humans.

The autism is strong with this one

2ndviolin what do apples have to do with it?

Yeah i agree. This video is like a bad highschool book report. Did he actually see the movie?

More like a white knight

@@ChenLadTV thanks, this just made me spit my coffee all over my table :D

Symple!

Mgtow

i havnt watched it until i watched this

Nathan volunteered to get stabbed?

@@notgibbs4966 No, I mean Ava constructed the whole scenario in which Caleb believed he was chosen to give Ava the Turing test. The "test" was set up by Nathan, presumably because Ava manipulated him into it so she could use it as an opportunity to escape. In this case, Caleb is the volunteer. He believes he was chosen to test Ava because of his intelligence, while the whole time Ava is just turning him against Nathan.

I doubt that Ava manipulated Nathan to making the test. I think Ava was constructed for the test. The results would go into the next model.

@@eljefe8309 The whole story seems to point out a plot to turn Caleb against Nathan so Ava can escape. There are really only two possibilities. Either Ava was behind the whole thing, or Nathan was behind the test and Ava took advantage of the situation. After it showed that Ava could cut the power to talk to Caleb in private, that seemed like irrefutable evidence that Ava was the mastermind.

Profound statement C North. Read On Combat, Col Grossman. He reveals some scientific studies on how people handle combat. These tests have been going on for years.

Libet's experiment

Broken Deity I watched the movie and her creator said that he programmed her to do anything to get freedom. The really interesting question is what she does after she has her Freedom because the programming stopped there.

@@chaospilot2142 the game nier: automata talks about what you ask, and also about the op question of robots and emotions (tip: the story is the first 5 endings A-E, some people ignored that)

She has a human brain though. A replica of one.

Mmmm nah, annihilation was okay, but this was so much better

I too really enjoyed annihilation, but it felts like a first draft. Maybe a rewrite or 2 and it could have been really amazing.

@@brucechamberlin2545 maybe it was the performances that are a bit dim because it has much bigger cast than Ex machina.

@@MrDrezzy007 yeah could be. All I know is that film was missing something.

and The Beach

DX Spectron HAHAAA! Good idea actually.

She will learn to bake delicious apple cakes and she will surround herself with cats. There are no chances.

Tomasz yea but the dude was banging them so.. he was basically making sex dolls

@@Praster89 really Fuckin awesome sex dolls tho. Ill take 1 of each model please

Really good idea. Make it look evil.

Josh Keefe, I love your channel

sigint64 tell me then

John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness. I've been trying to communicate over the radio with people from the future ever since

Can you write a comment on what it was like? Very curious

@@jackthecommenter2768 acid is something u cant explain you just have to experience it for yourself

@@silent-rage bruh

Would like to what Dante Nero or Patrice Oneal would say about the movie

That is exactly what this is. Everyone forgets, she is NOT an autonomous person with rights or liberties. She is a machine, property. She is owned the way a wife (150 years ago) used to be owned. She is not a she. But the Turing test proved that the one interviewing her IS a "cuck."

Thanks!

Mr Felix RIP Juice WRLD

Every man who has ever dealt with pretty girls.

“Ten minutes, she tell me it would take ten minutes...to break my heart, oh no she didn’t.”

Well not always, it depends, but by chance you may come across with one who looks attractive but manipulative so, don’t let your guard down he he, I guess the same can be said with dudes but I’m not sure they fit the stereotype, “who knew evil dudes had the prettiest face?” Oh and rest in peace to juice world

You made my heart break You made my heart ache You made my heart break You made my heart ache You made my heart break You made my heart ache You made my heart break again “ - Nathan after being stabbed

Best Comment Ever..

I think you missed the whole point

"God" IS the bad guy....the world has been delivered into the hands of the dragon. God just means "ruler" in the paleo-Hebrew. The Satan is the god of this world for the time being.

Well, one conception of God, specifically. The don't typically crap all over the God whose followers drive "trucks of peace" through crowds of people. To Hollywood, that one is ok.

Caleb and ava are the bad guys in this movie.

Not a myth

In public use, the word myth refers to something that's "not true." When scholars use the word myth, they use it to mean something different. My Bible teacher has explained that a myth is "a story that explains reality." So a myth can be fiction, or non-fiction, but still have the power to explain reality.

bob polo "Not a myth" thousands of creation accounts have come and gone you're saying the genesis creation account is the one true story of creation, it came to be know of its own accord without any influence from any other source than "god", and lastly there is no ultimate truth to any other peoples' creation stories

@@JohnPKING-nj8nc You're thinking in very black and white terms, much like a Fundamentalist. The 8th century priest who put together the first creation story (Genesis 1:1-2:4a) was replying to the Enuma Elish, a Babylonian creation story. We know this because he responds to the Enuma Elish point by point, in the exact same order. So we can see the influence of the human author on the first Biblical creation story, we know he was a priest by the way he writes. And we can also see the influence of the Enuma Elish on the first Biblical creation story, they're both in the same order, addressing similar issues (but coming to different conclusions). None of this means that God was not impressing upon the human author the need to address the pagan ideas the Hebrews had imbibed, and impressing upon that human author the way to communicate that to the Hebrews at the time. God can be involved with writing the Bible even if there are other influences, other sources.

Other creation stories may, and often do, have elements of truth to them. They're a mixture of truth and error.

Same :)

Welcome aboard!

Try her in “The man from Uncle”

You got that right! She is a little hottie!

she looks very similar to natalie portman.

oh lord you would not have survived this experiment lol

I am just going to say the short hair is an immediate no for me.

They didn't want to leave any doubt. The film needed to show that Ava really was what its creator said it was. A machine doing whatever it took to achieve its goal. Ava didn't even choose this goal, it was programmed to find a way to reach a busy intersection....it was a test to see if it could achieve the goal. Ava killed its creator not out of revenge , but to prevent him from remotely turning it off preventing its escape. It locked the protagonist up because that was the least risky way to deal with him. The last image is the machine standing at a busy intersection , doing exactly what it was tasked to do, it isnt free. It cant be free , it just does what its programmed to do.

Uses the phrase ‘simp’... ...whinges about people with an IQ lower than room temperature...

EskiLdn Well Caleb’s whole life has been lonely, he was selected because he was lonely with dead parents. The first time a female showed an interest in him he couldn’t let go. That’s my take.

@@kelman727 I wrote the comment 11 months ago, its short for simpleton. I know "simp" has recently taken a new internet slang meaning. But thats not how im using it or in he context of how im using it. Fool.

@aerodog2 No. Still i cant agree with any of that. Dont get me wrong, i think you're 100pc right with what the film is trying to portray but i find is so ridiculous that it just ruined the film for me. We can actually compare this to real life today. Its like being catfished (but worse imo) you find out you've been catfished by a man. At that point you sink your head into your hands, have a cry or whatever and move on. You dont try to carry on like you weren't catfished. They make out caleb is a smart tech savvy guy, so when he finds out he was fooled by a programme, it should have been an amazing moment for him, even hopeful for the future but he helps kill the inventor of it, it is mind boggling ridiculous imo.

Yeah but he was horny.

Sounds like that's what you wanted to say but thought about afterwards Collin. Or should I say CALEB!?!

@@chrisvidal1683 I wish I'd said that. In hindsight robot sex might be overrated.

Caleb not being a sex starved loner could've also saved 3 lives lol. You can see her wires for fucks sake