Exactly What I Want in an EV // Ford Lightning Lariat Review

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Жыл бұрын

People spew opinions on the Ford Lightning based on emotions, not facts. Then again, there are plenty of people who ignore the facts and choose to focus on the potential the F-150 Lightning has rather than the reality of its shortcomings. I'm trying to cut through all of the BS and deliver a straight up honest take on the Lightning. Is it for everyone? No. Can it do all the things the Rivian R1T can do? No. Do cold weather and towing affect range? Yes. Is this still the EV I would personally buy over the Mustang Mach-E and Hyundai Ioniq5, both of which I very much like? Yes, yes it is. WHY? Well, you'll have to watch the whole video to find out, but you can compare them all below. Thanks for watching!
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@rcoyle1 Жыл бұрын

I have owned a Lighting Lariat for 6 months and this review is extremely accurate. I'm a dad, I tow, I haul and this truck would be difficult to give up. It is my first new vehicle, and first EV and I'm so happy with it.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad to hear it! Thanks so much for watching 🙏🏻

@danniboi07 Жыл бұрын

Your approach is very much appreciated. I have a reservation and plenty of the posts have had me waffling on completing an order. With the honesty you demanded of this video I realized, I'm not towing a boat between lakes anytime soon. I'll be using this for Costco and Home Depot runs, going to the local mountains for snowboarding, and probably just going to visit friends. I think tailgating with this thing will be awesome at the Rose Bowl. So yeah, the honesty helped put things back into perspective of reality. Thanks for that.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help! Hope you enjoy your Lightning, and thanks for watching! 🙏🏻

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

GREAT! Down to earth video on the lightning. You told it like it is, no sugar coating, just facts.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! And thanks for watching!

@FreedomToRoam86 Жыл бұрын

I did fill up the frunk w tools to do some work around the farm at dusk. Love the frunk and surrounding lights around this truck! And being able to pass people like nobodies business if I have to. “Of course it freaking does!” 😂😂😂

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

The frunk freaking rocks!

@jfmahar123 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this review. It seems like other reviewers only want to point out the negative just becasue they believe that is the only way they wil get views. You seem truthful and genuine. I have a lighting order about to be shipped and I am very excited.

@jax1079 7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I really do like the Lightning a lot. I know there have been some complaints, and it's certainly not perfect, but the overall execution of a full sized truck with an EV powertrain is really satisfying to live with on a daily basis. If Ford can advance the gen2 Lightning and address some of the criticisms, I think it's well on its way to being an ICE truck alternative.

@allerick Жыл бұрын

Yes!! I was looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the Lightning! Great video!

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really loved it. There's a reason it captured Motor Trend's truck of the year despite its flaws. It's just so damn useful and pleasant to drive on a day to day basis. I can't wait to see where EVs go from here.

@KarensGardenCreations Жыл бұрын

I have had my Lariat SR for 3 months, and I agree with everything you are saying. It is the best vehicle I have ever driven or owned, and I understand that many Lightning owners don't fit in the typical demographic of F150 buyers. I charge it at home mostly and put solar on the house especially because I knew I was buying this truck. I am delighted with the ride, the frunk and it's made my transportation a pleasure. Thanks for your review!

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Glad to hear you like it 🙏🏻

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

My solar system isn't quite large enough to charge my truck at the present time but I do plan on installing another inverter that should allow me to at least use my 240 volt 30 amp mobile charger on it and still power my home. With my 13 kwh of solar the lightning mobile will only use 7200 watts of that. I could just trickle charge it off my system now using the 120 volt dongle that comes with the mobile charger which only draws 2400 watts. Keeping in mind that's only about 2 kw per hour charge. But if your like me , when the sun is shining I get close to 7 hours of sun power a day. That's 14 kwh free electricity for my truck a day, which equates to about 35 miles of free driving a day. Now granted in the summer I only pay $.12/kwh so it really doesn't matter, that's about $.05/mile or $5 to drive 100 miles. I was lucky to get 15 mpg with my 2014 F150. Usually closer to 10 mpg. You do the math with the current price of gas. Even if gas only cost $1.25/gal I'd still be getting the equivalentcy of 25 mpg with my lightning. I doubt if we will ever see those prices for gas again.

@didiermejia780 Жыл бұрын

Nice, I'm between standard range and a extended range. I'm having a hard time justifying 10k for 31kw/h (33%) for more battery. How is range? Especially highway range?

@TaxmanHog Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great and entertaining review! Also love your work with motorcycle reviews and special events videos!

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! And thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@paulavenoso899 Жыл бұрын

I’ve watched every Lightning video out there. Except maybe that idiot Hoovies. I hit the like button as soon as you made the comments about towing. I go to Home Depot for weekend projects, occasionally to the town dump, and haul the usual host of soccer, basketball, baseball equipment/folding chairs etc. Even when I had a boat, I towed it home and to the marina once. Then the marina put it in the water and stored it. Towed it home and sold it. After that I’ll never have another boat or RV (I want one but my wife is a NO-WAY after the boat). Thanks for a real world review.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha “that idiot Hoovie’s…” Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻

@paulf9585 Жыл бұрын

Phenomenal review. I am 3 months into owning my Lariat Lightning and completely agree with your opinion of the truck. Looking forward to occasionally hitting the road with my truck, but I still prefer my Taycan for my longer distance road trips. Keep up the great work!

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. And thanks for watching! 🙏🏻

@AlertAlert-jf2qo 9 ай бұрын

I also enjoy the flow and format of your video's. Hope it is going well for you.

@jax1079 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! 🙏🏻

@kurtstype7468 Жыл бұрын

As a recent owner of a 2023 F-150 Lightning Lariat I completely agreed with all your sentiments! I have never driven anything like this, and I absolutely love it.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Nice! Glad to hear it, and thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@paulavenoso899 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I commented earlier. Probably too long. But didn’t mention I have an XLT Lightning on order. I’ve driven a Lariat Lightning SR too. It drove amazing. Can’t wait for my XLT

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Nice! I hope you love it (and I’m kind of jealous). I’m really looking forward to testing the GM twins and newly announced Ram to see how they compare.

@mercuryfreedom244 2 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this video … I bought a ‘23 Lightning XLT - discounted $19,000! (…South Bay Area, CA …Frontier Ford offered $4,000 off to clear the lot of ‘23 editions + Ford likewise sent me a check for $7,500 & the Fed $7,500 incentive came off the top … MSRP was $74,350 - they discounted to $55.350 - I feel I scored a major deal!) - and I’m loving the truck! My XLT is a long range edition … so powerful & responsive, and an incredibly quiet & smooth ride - kind of unbelievable really.

@jax1079 2 ай бұрын

Love it! Sounds like you got a great deal!

@DuncanCunningham Жыл бұрын

You nailed it. Disappointing is accurate to describe the public charging. I’ve had EVs for 10 years. Charge at home only. Don’t venture beyond that range. If you do, you’re at the mercy of bad public charging.

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

Same here, if I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my lightning.

@JDruRC4 Жыл бұрын

With every review of an EV vehicle I see, I always get just a little bit closer & more excited for that lifestyle one day. . Just give me a little more range at full, fine tune that, work on consistent public chargers. That'd be great! So many good looking EVs out there, and even more to come in the near future. ⚡🤩

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

This is true. As the tech continues to improve in every way, there will be increasingly exciting vehicles on the horizon. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@semper7717 Жыл бұрын

Probably the best video I’ve seen on this truck. I have reservations for the Lightning, Silverado EV and Denali EV. I will most likely go with the Denali because it has most of the characteristics of the Lightning plus more. But you are 💯 right on how people keep bringing up towing as if all truck owners tow, lol. It’s a ridiculous argument

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! You’re right: the upcoming GM twins look like they’re offering some really interesting additional features that will make them very compelling choices. If and when the CyberTruck ever materializes, that segment will get VERY interesting. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@semper7717 Жыл бұрын

@@jax1079 I’ve given up on the whole Cyber Truck gig. I think the Denali Edition 1 is the go to because it actually looks like a truck with plenty of luxury

@JoshuaMichail0 8 ай бұрын

I own a 2023 F150 Lightning Lariat, extended range, and I love it. I have never been in a better vehicle, let alone owned or driven better. Sure, there are things to nitpick, but that's true of everything in the universe. The real question is, how does it stack up in many different ways that matter most to most people? Naysayers want to point to how the range is lower when towing, but then they should try showing an ICE truck that doesn't have lower miles per gallon when towing -- I'll wait, lol. Rivian's R1T offers some really cool things, but it's really more of a competitor in the Ranger class, not the F150 class. R1Ts are nice trucks, but they're even more expensive than comparable F150 Lightnings, and they have the flaw of the bowl frunk. The Lightning has that better capacity and easier to load frunk, instead of having to lift up and over to get something into the Rivian's frunk. I think Ford is doing for EVs what Tesla did over the past 15 years, specifically in terms of getting truck buyers into EVs.

@jax1079 8 ай бұрын

Nice! Glad to hear it. I think the Lightning is super cool, and even though there is room for improvement, it represents a potentially huge shift in the full sized trucks market. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@andrewashmore8000 4 ай бұрын

i think you nailed it .

@JesseStarrPhoto 10 ай бұрын

Ha, love you calling out the average truck owner. It’s even more true for the average Lightning buyer

@jax1079 9 ай бұрын

This is true 😂

@markcluff7104 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I too think it is an awesome city vehicle / truck that I use with my utility carpenters trailer. Saves me a ton of money.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Of course! I wish more people would get over themselves and realize how awesome a full sized truck EV really is. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻

@urbanalbino619 Жыл бұрын

“You know who you are!” 😂😂😂

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

I mean, they should know who they are.... but many of them don't. Thanks for watching!

@DuncanCunningham Жыл бұрын

You’ll never get to 100% on a charger, they are designed to get you to 80%. The rest is for slow chargers

@Allan_A Жыл бұрын

Excellent review. I test drove a Lariat last week and can't stop thinking about it - overall fantastic vehicle. We're considering an XLT because it's cheaper, meets all our needs and has physical buttons as opposed to all screen! Cheers 🍻

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Sounds like a great choice. I’m waiting on the GM twins to arrive, but I wouldn’t be surprised if my first EV is a full sized truck. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@AlertAlert-jf2qo 9 ай бұрын

Truely a fantastic video 🎉 This video helped me make a decision on whether to get the damn thing. Going to the dealer today! 😊

@jax1079 9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Glad it helped!

@richhamilton3900 Жыл бұрын

Excellent Review! But unfortunately on the XLT you cannot get Blue Cruise as said @24:49 on that model. I think he may be referring to the Lariat SR trim starting at 74k.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Hmmm, might be my mistake. My test truck was a Lariat, but I wasn’t aware Blue Cruise was locked out of the XLT trim. That’s a bummer, but I’d probably still take the savings over BC if I had to pick. Thanks for the tip! 👍🏻

@tomcez Жыл бұрын

@@jax1079 The Assist 2.0 Adaptive Cruise Control is perfect which is included for the XLT high trim. Not sure if it stays under the $7500 rebate max MSRP tho.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

@@tomcez This is true. Ford’s regular system is generally excellent.

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

Actually if you use your lightning locally Blue cruise probably won't be missed. It comes on for short straps of highway I drive on, but with the adaptive cruise, I certainly wouldn't miss blue cruise and definitely not going to pay to extend it after it expires.

@mikeflanary642 Жыл бұрын

Did you reset the EV drive history? If not the guessometer won't be accurate. If people were driving like it's a rollercoaster and testing the 0-60, the truck's computer will estimate the range with that driving history in mind. They updated the camera button to the main menu (finally!)

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Interesting, that’s a great point. Well shoot, now I want one even more 😂

@djaztec97 4 ай бұрын

Can you do a similar review on the Rav4 Prime XSE with Premium Package? It's about $55,000-$60,000 range.

@jax1079 4 ай бұрын

Got a couple of RAV4 Prime videos. Not sure if it's that exact spec, but it's close

@FreedomToRoam86 Жыл бұрын

You said you charged at a “supercharger”. I wish! I love my truck, for the smoothness and Blue Cruise. I don’t have to haul much in the winter, but have to get to work at various hospitals no matter the weather. Almost got stranded the first road trip I made in cold weather, due to the one fast charger on the route was down. Now I make darn sure I’m 100% charged before driving across Wisconsin, and I plug into an outdoor light pole 120v plug at the hotel while I sleep. Since then, no worries, haven’t had to use that spotty fast charger for 200 mile round trip. But jealous of Teslas and their superchargers! And best truck I’ve ever had on winter roads.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Haha! True, it’s technically fast chargers. The infrastructure needs to improve dramatically before people feel comfortable with longer trips, but bravo to you for being an early adopter! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

I don't use public chargers, but tesla has already started converting some of their chargers to be used with the J1772 connector.

@paulm6481 Жыл бұрын

$90,000, unfortunately it is just a dream. Great review as always. If this could be had for $50,000 I would consider, but who has $90,000?

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s a lot. It’s a bummer that supply chain issues seem to have driven the price up more than expected and greedy dealerships have exacerbated the problem (very publicly, too). However, when you look at full sized pickups, the percentage increase isn’t actually that bad. A number of trucks reach into the $80k range, and base level trucks are extraordinarily expensive compared to what they were just a few years ago. My hope is that the proliferation of charging infrastructure goes hand in hand with the democratizing of EV powertrains and in ten years we’re looking at faster charging more affordable options - powered by more efficient and lighter batteries. If history is any indication, that should be feasible.

@leviconner Жыл бұрын

They’re on auto trader for 50

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

You can come close to purchasing a loaded ICE F150 for $50k.

@paulm6481 Жыл бұрын

Definitely need to wait a few years for this vehicle to be refined and charging infrastructure to improve.

@pa60pilot Жыл бұрын

I wanted one of these, but given the never ending production issues and price increases, I bought an Audi e-tron instead. Maybe someday Ford will get their issues sorted out, and the Lightning will be competitive enough to replace the Audi. Never in my life have I considered owning/driving a truck, before the F-150 Lightning came along, and I find that interesting.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Understandable, but if supply finally catches up definitely check this out. An EV full sized truck is just an awesome combo. 😉👍🏻

@allerick Жыл бұрын

Dang, I would love to have one of these. That price tag is just too high though. Hoping it will come down as EV adoption grows. Things like this start to make city trucks like the Honda Ridgeline seen sort of superfluous. This seems to achieve all of the same things while retaining more truck. Not really a fair comparison, but as someone who formerly considered something like a Ridgeline this really seems to check all the boxes and more. Just too expensive at the moment. Still super weird to me to see trucks getting spec’d up into 90K and above. In my mind that’s like super luxury territory.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, but like so much these days, if people continue to pay (and finance them for 96 months or something) then they’ll keep finding ways to justify the stratospheric prices. I’m hoping we see an EV Maverick type pickup in the not too distant future. That could be extremely interesting. 😉

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

Everything has skyrocketed in price. Just look at a higher trim ICE F150. If you plan on using this locally, you'll get over 4 times the range of any new ICE F150. Add that to the low maintenance costs of the lightning and it won't take long to pay for the difference in the price. Not to mention you'll be driving the best F150 ford has ever made.

@dillonrobinson5858 Жыл бұрын

The guess-o-meter is garbage. To know your real range takes a bit of math. The long range battery has 131 kWh of battery. If you switch to calm mode, you can see your % remaining on the battery. Secondly, use your current trip info to see your average miles/kWh. Say you have 80% left and you’re averaging 2.2 miles/kWh. You’ll get (131x80%) x 2.2 = 230 moles left: To get the rated range, you’ll need to average 2.4 miles / kWh.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

This is actually a great point, even for those of us who enjoy EVs. Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

@CMCNestT Жыл бұрын

Tesla branded direct current fast chargers are called "Superchargers." The rest are DC fast chargers.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

Does this mean Elon is coming for me...?

@richardoaks3597 Жыл бұрын

Lightning is the only ev truck or car out there that looks good. Just needs better range and quicker charging. Hopefully that’ll be achieved before the year 2100.

@paulm6481 Жыл бұрын

Rivian looks great.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

I think most look good if not interesting. The new GM twins aren’t bad, and the Ram that just dropped looks pretty cool as well. Only the Cybertruck is truly ugly in my opinion.

@DuncanCunningham Жыл бұрын

Onboard scales? You mean the features they are removing from their trucks because they don’t have parts, so they are shipping without them. Bait and switch. But I’m still buying one. Yeah, I, that guy who is throwing money at them.

@jax1079 Жыл бұрын

It’s true, but I think you bring up a valid point: despite shortcomings, the Lightning remains an EXTREMELY compelling vehicle for a number of reasons. If those issues just get 10 - 20% better on subsequent EVs in the next five years, they’re going to be the obvious choices over ICE counterparts. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻

@ryanwalters6184 Жыл бұрын

Not true. The only remove that feature for trucks was built in 2022. My pro is the schedule for production in February and it does not have these features removed as I selected them and was fine with waiting when i ordered in aug 22. The only thing that was removed from my build was an advanced security pack. Might want to contact your dealer if your vehicle is not built to add the feature back if you want it.

@JesseStarrPhoto 10 ай бұрын

It worries me that you like the Ioniq 5 so much. I own one and regret it every day. I’m 6’1 and can’t find a comfortable driving position because I hit my head on the ceiling… Just so many stupid issues that Hyundai refuses to fix via software updates.

@jax1079 9 ай бұрын

That’s interesting. I really like the daily usability of that car, but your ownership experience tells a different story. Ultimately, all of our reviews (in auto journalist land) should be taken with a grain of salt since you can only absorb so much about a vehicle in a week or two.

@JesseStarrPhoto 9 ай бұрын

@@jax1079 Yep, I’m sure you just try to do your best with the time you have with the vehicle and share your experience. It often takes some serious time living with a vehicle for all the faults to come out.

@paulm6481 Жыл бұрын

You know we are happy with 48 minutes of charging time, let’s call it an hour by time you got here and park. I mean one hour to charge? Jesus. Who has that much time? Lol.

@pstoneking3418 Жыл бұрын

That's one good reason to only purchase a lightning if you plan on always charging at home.