What are your thoughts on Rose Winters and are you guys excited for the upcoming shadow of Rose DLC? Anyway Thank You for watching and I truly appreciate it :) Timestamps below: 0:00 Intro 2:28 Rose Winters in Resident Evil Village Rose's Timeline 3:52 The Opening (Section 1) 6:36 Resident Evil 7 Recap 13:58 the Village (Section 2) 19:53 Revelations (Section 3) 27:14 16 Years Later (Section 4) 29:43 Rose's Powers 36:54 Connections

The ending of RE8 made me cry like a baby. Some people find Ethan to be a boring character, but I grew to love him after playing as him in two games. I felt so bad for him and his determination to save Mia and Rose really struck deep. Now, that trait is common in protagonists in videogames. But it made me think of my own dad and I really wanted Ethan to come out of everything safe and with his family. When he died, I felt so empty, like I failed him. But watching Rose, with his jacket, talking to his grave made me almost proud of her. If this Michael turns out to be Ethan, watching over her through the network, I will be the happiest person on earth.

Even though she was an infant during the events of RE Village it's not farfetched to believe she was helping Ethan throughout the game, especially in The Final Battle against Mother Miranda weakening her enough to Kill her off permanently.

Maybe rose won't have soo much power as eveline, but she can sustain a normal body and not become a rotting granny. So I think she will have certain powers, but won't be that O.P until the plot dictates.

I honestly hope that the DLC ends with Rose not getting rid of her powers but owning them for herself, even if they end up weakened to keep her from being too OP. I'm interested in seeing how she navigates that hive mind type thing.

I also wonder if Rose has the capacity to copy the powers/abilities of the four lords? I see the mind control/hallucinations in Donna Beneviento’s abilities as well as Evelyn’s.

Since the neural mold network gave Rose all the knowledge of people that are "connected" to it, does that mean she knows what all about the villagers bed activities? That could make her want to repress that knowledge, and lo and behold, you've got Shadow Rose, who is a storage container for all the icky stuff Rose doesn't want to know. /s

Years, of us fighting the bio-wepons, and now we get to play as one

Rose is essentially the amalgamation of The Megamycete & The Mold Strain.

Honestly: I kind off get the feeling that she’ll be keeping some of her powers at the end. That she WILL be her own self and destroy the remnants of the Mutamycete and be the only Mold being left (aside from maybe Mia if she too is still one). I think that when she gains full control of the powers she will use them to only do good. And if people will try to use her for nefarious goals, that she will know about it and will do her best to stop it.

My thought is that the Duke is actually the Megamycete or at least a superior manifestation similar to the lords. If you look at his powers he can teleport/move impossibly fast, he knows things he shouldn't about everything in the village and surrounding areas, he helps Ethan get weapons not easily found in a out of the way village to kill the lords and other monsters (possibly to re-assimilate it's missing pieces), and he shrugs of bullets and explosives as if it was a buzzing fly (rapid healing or supremely strong flesh)

I had a thought, like why Rose loves and misses her dad so much. I mean she was just months old when her dad died, so I concluded coz of the megamycete's ability to store memories maybe she saw how Ethan saved her, overcoming the Lords, getting his hands cut and everything just to save her. Maybe even interacted with him through this thing. 🤔 also am I the only one who thinks Rose looks a lot like Mia? except blonde? please tell me I'm not alone 😂😅

I wonder if the time jump is not real. Since Eveline rapidly aged, it’s possible that Rose aged herself and what she’s seeing is memories from the network making her think she’s been alive for 16 years.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Mia in the beginning was actually Miranda and not Mia, you hear Mia fighting with Ethan as Rose was either developing or just born and already visiting the doctor from carrying a virus. So really Rose had a weird distant relationship with her mother because of a fraudulent doppelganger of a Mia.

My guess is that Rose will be a lot like Sherry and Natalia. For those that haven't played Revelations 2 or RE6, Sherry is able to quickly heal any wounds (including impaling) and Natalia basically has x-ray vision and can locate monsters nearby, among other things.

I feel bad for the winter family. Him and his wife had to go through hell and back like 2x then Rose grew up without her father.

I'm pretty excited for Shadows of Rose, I'm so afraid they'll tease Lady D and her daughters only for them to be yet again short lived or they won't appear at all. Seeing other returning characters and this Michael person will be nice. I really want to know why the Duke is a villain, I knew there was something strange about him but I wonder what could he want with Rose. I was kinda hoping he would bring back the 4 lords somehow but that might be a little too fanfic-ish.

I dont think the megamycete is dead. I'm not talking about the mold, but the origin of the mold, the original colony that Miranda found before she became Mother Miranda. The same way the Armillaria ostoyae covers 2384 acres and is still growing, Chris and his team likely didn't kill it all. And since Miranda fused with the mold for decades, the mold copied her memories before Project Evelyne started. And over time, Evie possibly looked like Rose when Rose was a little girl which is probably what Eva looked like as a little girl. I think Rose and her doppelganger are what Eva could have looked like if Eva survived the flu pandemic

“Some of you Lords are alright. Don’t come to the village tomorrow.” Dimitrescu: I fear no one, but that child? She scares me.

Looking at Mia in Re7, it is amazing that someone can be cured from that type of a virus.

This is my theory, "Eva"line the failure of a daughter to Miranda, Doing the experiment using the DNA of her deceased child, she programmed her with an obsession of a family, a Mother and a Father. Miranda said that Rose is the complete version of "Eva"line. So even if Ethan defeat her in the previous game, the bio bratt got her wish, according to the knowledge of the Megamycite, she transferred her consciousness and reborn as a new person, a proper body, one that wouldn't decay, and age rapidly, and best of all, accomplish the wish of "Eva"line Ethan as a Father, Mia as a mother.

Maybe the Duke was the heart of the mold but in human form that's why he knew so much

I believe Michael is very likely Ethan Winters. Michael, perhaps being his middle name? Hiding his identity could easily be seen as him trying to protect Rose, as to not give her a reason to continuing to interact with the Megamycete to visit him. The few scenes we see of him interacting with her clearly are him trying to get her to leave, and when that doesn't work, he gives her means to protect herself. And the Duke could very easily be the Megamycete itself. Which would explain his almost uncanny knowledge of everything in and around the village within RE:8, with his impressive girth as a metaphor for the Megamycete absorbing knowledge of the dead and becoming fat with it. Also, his name the Duke in terms of nobility ranking is second highest after royalty, and two ranks higher than Countess Dimitrescu would have been. Also, Rose's hair color is almost the same shade as Ethan's when you see it in RE:Village's ending when he hands Rose off to Chris. So Ethan's hair color is almost the same shade a Miranda's, though I doubt it means anything. Finally, the question I have personally wondered after it's revealed in RE:Village that Ethan is a mold creature, how was he able to resist Evelyn's mind control? When Mia tells Chris that Ethan is special, she wasn't foolin'. If Ethan can innately resist entities that control the Mold, perhaps Rose can as well. It would also explain how, if Michael is Ethan, he is able to manipulate and move freely within the consciousness of the Megamycete.

I'm definitely getting Heather Mason vibes from her, supernatural abilites, dead father, evil doppelganger...

We are in a Resident Evil golden age. A REnaissance.

She got magic mushroom powers💀

I really hope she doesn't loose all of her power and instead becomes the protag of the next game. Have this be the winters arc of Rezzie

It's perhaps a little farfetched, but I really hope that Rose might be able to connect with Ethan through her powers. It's known that the mold "catalogs" any- and everything it touches, including people, so even "dead" Ethan technically still lives through the catalogs. A little headcannon for me is that "Michael" might actually be Ethan, watching over his daughter from beyond the grave. The final climax might be the player having to choose between keeping Rose's power (keeping a connection to her dad, but also the dangers from Evelyn and the like), or getting rid of her powers, being safe but also losing any means of connecting with her father.

I can imagine, that the DLC will mostly play inside of Roses mind. As her Doppelganger will embody what she fears to become. I believe, that she has far greater potential than Evelyn, who has used her power to a considerable extend. Rose doesn't seem to be fond of these gifts as Mother Miranda was.

If look closely to Ethans jaket while rose is wearing it, you can still see where lady D cut of his hand.

I feel like after this dlc she’ll lose her powers or maybe keep a regeneration trait kind of like sherry and jake.

Really want to know the next villain of 9. She's powerful so the next villain needs to be a lot more stronger

I’m excited to see how she does in the dlc and ends this saga.

I'm still holding hope for Rose and Sherry teaming up together

Dude this was such a good breakdown. Thank you for the recap

Since the Resident Evil live action movies introduce an original character that had control over the T-virus, aka Alice, I think Rose could be the counterpart character of the game universe. The Rose DLC will connecting quite a lot of loop hole and maybe the return of villain like Wesker.

I'd love to see Heisenberg again. He was the best

So personally I don’t think she can control the megamycelium I think she is the (I’m just going to call it mushroom from her onwards so I don’t have to deal with my dyslexia) it’s the only way it makes sense with the ending of the first game, it also means that she is the perfect undercover agent or will be when her powers are fully realised, so she can (if my ideas pan out) pull up the memory of anyone that has ever been infected by the mould learning anything they knew from information to combat skills and as her mum was infected she has quite the training, she can also change her appearance to look like anyone infected and as a last resort she can do that thing that all RE bosses do were she becomes the size of a building but because of her control of her form she can also shed that form going back to her human form or a human form. On a fun side for a girl her age at her whim she can change her hear style or colour even her eyes, she can make herself taller or change her body shape without the need for plastic surgery, as she dosnt really need her spine she can easily become head cheerleader or top the track team as she also dosnt need to breath, not needing the breath also puts her in line to be the best swimmer at whatever high school she is at. 28:00 also if my ideas turn out to be anywhere near true she can earthier go into her own mind and talk to her farther as everything that made him him will be there in her or depending on how strong she is she could literally summon him up as a moulded (assuming that hasn’t already happened with the guy we see walking towards the car at the end) all she would need to do is choose not to control him and suddenly her dad is back alive (I would assume that it would also be the him we see at the end of the game and from his point of view he will have just blown up the heart, then sudden flash of white light and he is sitting or standing before young blond girl that’s wearing his jacket and somehow looks familiar, if she did the same thing with her mum on the other hand it would probably bring up young Mia just before been cleansed of the infection at the end of the first game)

Thank you for making this. Stay safe!

Another awesome video!!

I think it would be an epic plot twist or whatever if this “Michael” character is really Miranda trying to find a way to resurrect herself

Her powers remind me of sherry like it would be cool if they meet

Rose is the next Wesker

the fact this is being released on a friday makes me love it all the more

It'd be neat if she could meet Wesker's son Jake or Sherry. The mutated/infected kids of previous RE villains who're actually good guys. Kinda feels like she'd fit right in.

thank you for this video dude

Dude i love your story facts in Resident Evil titles! and like how you added clock tower music in certain scene in the events. 😊🥰

I'm very curious about the comparison between Rose and Miranda's hair color. During the game you see Miranda with blonde hair and lighter features, but all photos of her show her to have dark hair. Even the one when she's holding Eva it shows both of them having dark brown/black hair. The photo you find of Miranda visiting The Connections to see Eveline in RE7 shows her with dark hair. I wonder what the significance of this change in her design means 🤔

I love the Wallpapper Bro!!! 10/10

I think that “shadow rose” is actually mother Mirandas child

That thumb is what I fear most... But that Heisenberg Rebel maybe actually somehow prove even just Baby form, Rose, she that strong ,so baby Rose probably rewatch every single act parents do, and it good act. Basically Rose need choose become Mia daughter(Mother Miranda) or Ethan Daughter. (Heisenberg dream)

This is starting to remind me or Revolutions. Ive played the 2nd one and the little girl in the 2nd story has a doppelgänger in some Extra stories. Maybe this will work similarly. One can go infrom of enemies while the other has to sneak around said enemies. Or the doppelgänger will show her what happened to Her fatherr and such.

You put out great content! I love your vids

I'm so excited for this DLC

I'm curious.. now that the DLC is 16 years after village, what're the other protagonists up to? 👀 I wonder what Chris will look like too..

6:00 it’s important to remember that isn’t Mia we don’t actually meet Mia until nearly the end of the game (about 3/4 or 4/5 into the game) On aside note I’m way to chuffed that I spotted that that version of Mia at the start of the game wasn’t her, the devs do give the player a few hints but it was easily overlooked.

She’s beautiful and just wants to be loved like a normal person

Since this tales place 16 yrs in the future, I wonder if they will add hints to what happens to the other RE characters and what might happen in RE 9. Could be a good way to tease it.

I was gunna put a video on as I was going to sleep and I saw the thumbnail and it scared the shit out of me 😂

Divided into 4 Sections...like How Hey DeVuH incorporated how you rescued Rose into the narration of her Life.

Eveline wants to be love by a family. Same with Rose which is seeking for a loving father.

To say the least capcom made a fucking masterpiece of a game like did anyone forsee that Ethan actually died by Jack and was saved by the mold

Oh damn bro! Didnt realize u hit 67k! Sorry i wasnt here when u acheived these milestones. IK ITS LATE BUT... Congratulations on 50k and 60k 😀 And dude! Your voice changed a lot 😬

So I’m still unsure here: Ethan died but was “alive” due to the mold…but Mia isn’t…? Is it because Mia received the cure at the end of 7? If Ethan had been given a similar cure, would he have been “alive”? What about Zoe Baker? Too many questions; I’ve gone cross eyed…

I guess I'll drop my theories in here before the DLC comes out. *Micheal* Theory 1 - It's Eva. I would not be surprised if Eva was disgusted with what her Mother did and she tries to help Rose via letting her get on with he life without the Mold interfering. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Eva somehow guided Rose into weakening Miranda at the end. Theory 2 - Micheal is Ethan but Ethan remains anonymous as to not cause her pain, possibly acting as an guardian angel throughout her life by showing her things and fighting off an potentially now active Eveline. It's been shown and said that people can live on within several times, even able to directly communicate. Theory 3 - Micheal is evil and the Shadow is good or Micheal IS also the Shadow. Another common twist but Micheal could simply be the bad guy and is manipulating Rose into fighting the Shadow or is manipulating Rose by pretending to be the Shadow, making it easy to trust Micheal as the Shadow seems like the threat. As for who Micheal could be, it could be Eveline, Miranda, or someone new (I go in detail below). Theory 4 - Micheal is Duke. We know for a fact that Duke had powerful connections with the Lords, has too much knowledge to not have involvement, and he can likely shape shift as to explain how he can easily get around because he has to be an Mold being (no way the Lycan's wouldn't have eaten him or his horses). Unlike Merchant, we know for a fact that his relevance is completely canon outside of gameplay elements. *Shadow* Theory 1 - Since it's already been shown that Eveline lives on in Ethan's head (probably too weak to make an appearance until Ethan was close to death), then I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that she would also exist in Rose given that Rose is literally made from her particular Mold. I think Rose gaining more Mold in Village and seemingly having such a strong control over the Mold may have given Eveline enough juice to actually "interfere" with Rose. I actually think Eveline talks to her or torments her and that could be why she has such a strong reaction to being called "Eveline". So I wouldn't be surprised if Eveline was vying for control of Rose's body so she could be reborn but without the issue of rapid aging. This would make the line of Rose's theme song (Yearning for Dark Shadows) "Because of you, I am who I am" connect more (it should also be noted that it sounds like it's said with hatred and pain) AND it also calls back to Eveline's own theme song in which she talks about how she was "made" then treated like a prop instead of like an actual child. Theory 2 - It's Eva and the Shadow is actually good. Pretty simple theory and a common twist. The shadow is actually trying to assist Rose but Micheal through manipulation (words and possibly even hallucinations) is trying to convince Rose otherwise. Theory 3 - It's Miranda, still fighting to bring her daughter back. This one I'm not too keen on as I actually feel like she would stop after meeting her daughter's consciousness, which we know is possible because Jack, Marg, and interestingly an still alive Zoe were all able to meet up with each in the Mold. Theory 4 - The Black God itself or the first host of the Black God. This would not be the first time in the series that something gained intelligence in the RE universe because of a virus or Mold in this case (Plant 42 considerably increased in intelligence). I would not be surprised that with it soaking up all of those conscious people, it was able to gain some sentience and may have even influenced Miranda on a subconscious level to create a perfect vessel that could fully harness it's power while giving it a form that could actually experience life. Alternatively, it could be the very first human host of the Black God trying to return to a state of physicality and wants to use Rose's body as the base. Theory 5 - Insane one but perhaps Shadow is Duke and the reason he helped Ethan take down Miranda despite obviously having ties to her, is because he wanted the perfect vessel for himself. He also seems to travel the world, so perhaps, he was visiting Eva clones in Connection facilities (The Connections were actively running away around the world from the BSAA and other shady orgs trying to finish them off) in private via shape shifting Perhaps he's even older than Miranda herself and could even be importantly tied to the Megamycete itself. *Other theories* Ethan end credits - Perhaps Ethan in the end credits wasn't just a reused asset and actually a hallucination experienced by Rose. Mia - Perhaps Mia was altered a bit during her time with Miranda. There's also the other organization who's involved in this that would obviously want her and the BSAA has also become shady, so something could happen to her then. The Organization/3rd Company/Rival Company - The company who was a big reason for Umbrella's downfall is the one playing the game of power behind all this mess. Think about it. The Organization's biggest motivator is eliminating competition (ordering Lucas to kill everyone at the secret Connections facility), steal research (Lucas was ordered to secretly feed them intel), and gain the largest foothold in the sale of B.O.W.s. Also, it makes much more sense that the little birdie that informed Miranda was them and not the BSAA IMO. Oh and there was one character who was going to appear in earlier drafts of the story and she's known for working with them... Ada Wong - The earlier planned appearance of Ada before she was cut just screams Organization involvement IMO. They seem to love hiring Ada, to the point that nearly every time we see her, she's working for them. She's also on a textbook mission, being a spy hiding within the Village and looking for something important. She also seemed to have gotten another job right at the end of RE6 (her last canon appearance I believe). BSAA B.O.W.s - Not only do I believe they're cloning Chris (the soldiers literally share his face in both the concept art and actual model WITH a close up shot), I also believe they have been using an combination of Umbrella's old research (known for cloning btw) and Jill's DNA. I'd like to point out that Umbrella had been continuously researching to further miniaturize Tyrants and boost their intelligence before they fell apart. I believe by using Jill's super charged immune system, they strengthened the bond between the clones of Chris and a t-Virus strain to do exactly that, severely limiting mutations/side effects much like t-Humans who can successfully bond with t. Since they were clones and likely rapidly aged up, control would be easy (which is something that was also noted about t-103s as they were significantly easier to control because they lacked humanity), though they probably had a brain device implanted just in case. We know Tyrants with enough intelligence can use weapons (Nemesis), which funnily enough connects back to Jill. We know some Tyrants can also be trained for advanced orders, to understand language, and gain some combat training (Ivan Models).

Good stuff as always.... Guide will make for a great squel for re 9 just hopefully CC uses majority of it in the sequel...& dlc

28:00 also if my ideas turn out to be anywhere near true she can earthier go into her own mind and talk to her farther as everything that made him him will be there in her or depending on how strong she is she could literally summon him up as a moulded (assuming that hasn’t already happened with the guy we see walking towards the car at the end) all she would need to do is choose not to control him and suddenly her dad is back alive (I would assume that it would also be the him we see at the end of the game and from his point of view he will have just blown up the heart, then sudden flash of white light and he is sitting or standing before young blond girl that’s wearing his jacket and somehow looks familiar, if she did the same thing with her mum on the other hand it would probably bring up young Mia just before been cleansed of the infection at the end of the first game)

Hopefully in the Next RE Game Rose & Sherry Birkin team up, I'd like to see What 2 characters one with The Megamycete & T-Virus can do together. Assuming Rose's & Sherry's powers are still growing, they could become almost Godlike. 🧏🏿‍♂️🙆🏻‍♀️

Headless Ethan is definitely a little creepy. Kinda perfect for the Halloween season lol

I count this video as new lore so thanks for the new re lore

So since she can connect to everyone with the mold or megamycte, does that mean she knows of the lords, Miranda, or even The Bakers?

Impressive. I so can’t wait to play as Rose in the new DLC and hopefully this new DLC will be an excellent prelude to RE9. Also, I’d like to see the alternate Duke who is dark or menacing in the new DLC

Planning to make a follow-up to this video once the DLC is out?

I knew it wasn't over yet .

I Love the video, and love to watch the update version because the game is out already

This DLC is gonna be GOOOOD

Nice use of Devil May Cry music (along with code Veronica) The tunes add to the almost gothic fairytale tone of the Winters saga

I feel like one of those shots is Rose delving into the memory of Code Veronica, there's a shot that looks just like the Rockfort Island communications room

Song at beginning is Devil May Cry Statue of time theme

can't wait to hear you talk about the new Silent Hills and RE4 Remake

It's incredible to know Mia was originally an Umbrella Scientist, then went to work for The Connections to create Evelyn. Essentially serving as the catalyst for RE7 & Village. 🧏🏿‍♂️🙆🏻‍♀️

I pre-order it last month, so I'm hyped for it

Maybe another reason that why Mother Miranda's attemp to resurrect her daugther fail is that her daugther didn't want to be reborn while having a mother like this or because she let's Rose live because she's just an innoncent child. The most scarring thing in the video is Ethan's model with no head with the free camera mode😱

I have only 2 hopes for the DLC. 1 Ethan gets brought back to life and 2 The Duke isn't made into a Villain!

Ethan really built different. I mean... He is walking headless!!!! (｡ŏ﹏ŏ)

Absolutely 💯 outstanding 👏 👌 🙌

Hmmmmm this sheds some light on things some more

I still like how Rose materializes Ethan's gun he used in Village

Dona was the least malevolent but had the scariest part of the game

So awesome bro

i wish we teamed up with heisenburg and he helped us through the village with chris

Ethan Winters has the same face as James Sunderland from Silent Hill 2.

One thing I don’t get is how it is 16 years in the future. Isn’t Rose similar to Eveline in terms of their biology? Doesn’t she age fast like Eveline?

Huh....Kinda notice the Silent Hillness of RE Village. Baby is taken to remote village, Father has to get her back, Daughter is playable in a story after said story, Father is dead, Girl learns more about herself. I could be overlooking things XD

I'm not exactly sure about this but just thinking of the final fight or a fight encounter with the duke he could sort of in a sense toy with Rose seeing as the duke is now basically some sort of necromancer he could brining back a sort of messed up version of Ethan to fight Rose just to buy himself some time if things got bad for him.. mainly saying this because we never saw Ethan blow up/fully crumble it was just assumed either happening meaning there could be parts of him intact for the duke to bring back and use against Rose

"And both of her parents Mia and Ethan Winters-" *Ethan casually walks in headless*

Rose kinda having a Doopleganger reminds me of Natalia in Resident Evil 2 and the Dark version of her living inside her mind.

What if mia was also dead by jacks hand? Would the injection she had as a full mould being done anything at all? After all it wasnt the same as the one used to defeat eveline, was it?

The biologist and physician in me has soooo many questions. Lol.

Agent:Evelyn, I mean Alice, I mean Rose