Interesting... I was not aware of the Visor headset, perhaps because I cancelled my ImmersedVr membership after getting frustrated with all the problems with it (described in this video). My personal feeling is that given what I perceive as the lack of quality of the immersedVR app, I will wait to see if the Visor headset delivers as promised. I already have xReal Air, which seems similar (though less feature packed) and the Meta Quest. I need to see the value of the Visor headset before I commit to it.

Totally understand. I put an early order in (full refundable until you submit ipd/face scan and get it specifically made for you) , and got it slightly cheaper, but I have on and off considered getting a full refund. It should be as clear as the Xreal air/air 2, but with an fov above the Quest 2. If it had displayport capability and was confirmed as working with steamvr, I wouldn't think twice as it would be perfect for sim racing/flying, as well as being used for work. I have no doubt it will work with steamvr at some point, but it will be over usb/WiFi, so will have compression and quite high lag to use the full resolution. It just seems a shame to spend my own money (and quite a bit) on something I may mostly use for work. The company I work for will love the potential extra productivity for free! 😁

Thank you, glad you like it 👍

I agree, I would personally like a slightly better resolution headset (using PICO 4),and slightly better Passthrough. Software wise I still come up against issues which is a pain when you need to get something done. Hopefully the perfect headset (reasonably priced) is only a year or so away, and the software fine tuned over the coming year to then have a hopefully faultless experience 👍

I got a Quest Pro 2 days ago and have been using Immersed as well. I am blown away and have been able to do everything with it

@@ForeverAnonymous it has really come a long way since I made this video, glad you're enjoying it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR yea, I’m actually returning it and waiting for the quest 3 now, as it seems the same, and better in some aspects at only half the price

Thanks, glad you liked it, I find immersed is really useful, it should save monitor setup, and I don't really experience any bugs now with windows. It might be worth going on the immersed Discord channel, they have been really helpful and might have some answers for your issues/bugs 👍

Glad you liked the video 👍 I can't remember exactly where I go the background now, I think it was from one of the stock image sites like istock photo or something. I've had a look but can't find it unfortunately online.

no worries man, thanks for having a look. I've subscribed, looking forward to the next videos. @@DayDreamerVR

I hope, and expect that by next Christmas, you'll have more choice. The big caveat about Pico 4 for me is the cheap front camera for mix reality mode. It's a single camera, so everything is rendered in 2D when you walk and want to catch objects, and therefore it's hard to evaluate distances. and the image quality of that front camera is crap. That aside, I find it a great headset despite the low battery autonomy (which still is better than Quest 2). With Immersed I think it last max 1.5 hours for me. (I have to time it thou... I just know it's short). I plan to attach a power bank to it, to increase battery autonomy.

​@@superkikim4916 That's true, a mixed reality mode could make it so I can set up those screens within my room. Or have other Avatars around be they AI or people maybe? I suspect the next generation of front cameras will be colour and 3D, or fake 3D even. Agreed, the battery setup it has is one thing I wish was better. I'm so glad 3rd party people are on top of this and can setup batteries to fit in. Though with usb-c as the charging port, any battery could work if you attach it comfortably with Velcro.

@@kairon156 Immersed has mixed reality. Works ok. Just not the best with the single cam ln the pico 4. Note it has color and is composing with both eyes. It's just weird if you look at your hands or your phone and it doesn't really allow to watch your phone for example. Colors are weird and the resolution is too bad. But this is still ok to use to see your environment while working on the virtual desktop. Regarding other avatars, Immersed has public rooms you can join. In that mode, you can see other people's avatars while working, and you can hear conversations (and participate) if people are note muted. As per the power pack I wouldn't scratch it to the helmet. I'd rather put it in a waistbag or a side pocket. I have a 20k mAh power bank that would be perfect for that

Thanks! Interesting to hear all of that - I have been using the Quest 2 with Immersed, and have found the same issues with the keyboard and mouse connected directly to the headset, and my PC is not located where I can work (by a racing sim rig) so this was vital. Immersed released for the PICO 4 in beta, and although it doesn't have Passthrough for the keyboard or tracked keyboard options, the image quality when using a 1920 x 1080 screen in immersed, is about the same as when I was supersampling/set to 3840 x 2160 with the quest 2. This means I can run it off a lower spec PC with the same visual quality. I have a 15m active usb cable, so might use that and put my keyboard and mouse into that so I can use them better than connected to the headset. I use the KIWI battery strap for the Quest 2 which is super comfy 👍 thanks for the tips. Check out my later video - it's a brief update following this one, thanks again

@@DayDreamerVR hello, i see your answer is 2 month old: you say, no passthrough with the pico4 ? hmm.. at this video here it shows passthrough, and with better readability of the key-signs on the keyboard compared to passthrough with the quest2 i have only tested with the pico4 once, without passthrough sofar, but liked it the lenses with better e2ec compared to the quest2 are very good for such szenarios

wondering form witch setup you came, when now using 1920x1080 on your main-screen in immersed an happy with that i think its an great upgrade for people with laptop, and 1080p resolution or even less.. when you now have it a) in bigger b) more far away (about 2-3m focus-distance in VR) compared to the 50-60cm on the laptop - so easier for eyes past 45 year-old people ;) c) 2 or 3 monitors instead of only one BUT: when you come from an descent monitor-setup - for example a 3440x1440p or 3840x2160p Single-Screen-setup, it feels for me like a downgrade.. and iam not only referring to the 2160x2160 Headset-Resolution compared to 3840x2160... its more: let me explane it feels for me a little bit like a step back.. i was using dual-Monitor (and at some time tripple-Monitor) Setup for 25 years for me, it was a step up, going from 2 monitors to one monitor with high resolution more freedom in scaling your windows, not so much headturning anymore, not working with your head turned to the side,... it looks always very impressive when you can have 5 windows in VR or even more in "vSpatial" but vSpatial showed it clearly for me: you do not want to work with a 180° workspace... thats not possible.. so you are "scroling" the windows right to left, left to right.... its like virtual desktops on windows: Windwos-key + arrow-keys for me its better to stack 2 virtual montiors above each other, so the head does not have to turn left to right but only slightly up and down if there is a third monitor, than only for unimprotant things, like teams where maybe once in an hour i have to look at i think - in some years - when headset resolutions go up significantly, we will see the same thing as in real world... people trading there 2 or 3 monitor-setups for a 1-monitor-setup with high resolution in the moment many monitors in VR is "cool", but also necessary, because of the still (too) low resolution of the headsets.. you have to use more monitors, spread them out wide, so you can benefit form more pixels.. the quest2 with immersed was for me on kind of border, where i could say: ok, for 2h.. but.. the resolution.. you have to be a vr-enthusiast to do that for real the pico4 with the better E2EC makes it for me much more a thing, that i say: yea.. i can imagine to use it much more often.. i use the Pico4 without facegasket.. so maximal close to the lenses, highest FOV and i can still see parts of the real world around me, what allows me to stay even longer in VR still iam looking forward to resolutions like 2560x2560 or 2880x2880 ... i think text, desktop, etc.. would benefit a lot from that i also hope for better colors.. head 9 HEadsets in the last 6 years.. and: non of them i would say: yes, i can use it to edit a video or yes, i can use it to edit fotos..

@@reinhardjud8945 Passthrough is now available with the pico 4, but it is not quite clear enough for comfortable reading of keyboard or note paper etc. I have got a spare AMVR facial interface and cut out the bottom section to help with reading etc. It is much more usable than the Quest 2,but I am also looking forward to higher resolutions and better Passthrough cameras 👍

@@DayDreamerVR in 5 years: resolution of the pimax crystal (2880x2880), Passthrough quality of the Varjo XR3 and Formfactor of Pico4 or smaler ;-) thats my wishlist.. then it would be for sure a great monitor-replacement for now, it is doable, but i guess for 95% of people which are not vr-enthusiasts, the downsides are in the moment too big, to consider working in VR for real

Hi, off the top of my head, you can use a virtual keyboard in immersed, and should be able to do it standing up with your floating screens. I can't remember, but I'd be surprised if you can't do that in Horizon Workrooms too. You might just have to recent re your view when you stand up and down so the monitors and virtual keyboard are where you want them. Hope that helps and I hope I understood your query right 👍

Awesome-hope you like your Quest 3 when you get it. Immersed you can use passthrough to see your keyboard, or passthrough portals to see other things (you can place the portals where you want them), or you can use passthrough everything but still see your virtual monitors. You can do passthrough keyboard area in Meta Horizon Workrooms (which I think is better than immersed's keyboard passthrough as its a really neat rectangle on the desk), I haven't tried Workrooms for a while though and can't remember a passthrough ability for the whole environment whilst seeing your monitors. I'm pretty sure virtual desktop has a passthrough environment, but I've not looked to use passthrough in virtual desktop for a while, would be the best option for flat screen gaming out of the 3 apps though 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Virtual Desktop, 1 screen no pass through. Tested within past couple of days. I like Immersed but I'm not willing to pay for it because of all the glitches. That being said, I've not found anything better, yet. My main problem is, I have 9 screens on my computer, they offer 3.

Just checked virtual desktop, and if you go to environments, there is a passthrough option 👍 immersed is free for 3 monitors, but yeah it's not quite the same as 9,not sure you will find that amount in any app soon 🤔

@@DayDreamerVR That's cool. Immersed says on their website if I use their product for 3 days they will give me a free upgrade to 5. If I can get Windows 11 4k virtual monitors working in Immersed, then I won't need to spend $6k on new trading monitors. 🤣

@@Ghost_Bear_Trader That's right, if you use in in a streak, (15 minutes for 3 days) you then get the Pro options 👍

Thanks for the comment, it means a lot. I've only been doing this three months, and hope to keep going 👍

@@DayDreamerVR keep at it. very good content

Subscribed just because of this comment, and great video!

@@kohx_io Thank you! I hope to continue bringing you more similar content and I'm glad you liked it 👍

I have some monitor plugs, so shall give this a go, thanks!

@@DayDreamerVR I have googled this "FUERAN dummy plug,Headless Ghost, Display Emulator HDMI-compatible HDMI-compatible" with this bellow comment "Works great with Virtual Desktop on Oculus Rift & HTC Vive" Looks like you can get them for all kind of outputs to emulate a "real" Monitor. Good luck and please let me know if it worked.

I don't think usb connection can be used with Horizon Workrooms unfortunately. I just did another video about working in Horizon Workrooms, and I have been surprised at how stable it is compared to immersed. The setup with Immersed can be off putting. I'll take a look to see if usb can be used with Horizon and will update 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thanks. Despite immersed being superior. Stability is very important for a person doing serious work. I wish horizon has USB connection.

That is good to hear, as I wanted to try it on the Quest 3 next week. The vastly superior colour passthrough and pancake lenses should make a big difference too. I am really looking forward to seeing it run on their own 4k per eye micro-OLED headset most though.

I'm really looking forward to trying it on the Quest 3,but I anticipate the immersed 3 will blow my mind for working in VR 🤞

@@DayDreamerVR If visor lives up to the hype. It'll be the beginning of an entirely new era in computing. I'm super syked.

@@Hellknight27 I don't know if it will be optimized on Q3 right out of the gate, but it will definitely be 100% better.

It has come a long way, not perfect but it's getting usable. It could be worth watching my other video about tracked keyboards kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hOCPpNl4p7W7ink.html hopefully it will save you some hassle/time 👍

@@DayDreamerVR perfect! thanks, I'll check it out right now.

Immersed you can use over a USB cable so that's your best option, although you could create a WiFi hot-spot from your laptop, or phone and it shouldn't use any network data, just between the headset and laptop/phone 👍

Sfortunatamente, nei miei test finora, non funziona per i giochi. Quindi per una configurazione a 3 monitor, o meglio per un'immersione, avrai comunque bisogno di tre monitor, o per riprodurlo in Realtà Virtuale.

Ok grazie per la risposta

I have done two updated videos since this one, Immersed really has come a long way and is really good to use. I still unfortunately do have a couple of faults which they haven't fixed and I reported earlier in the year, such as in some cases (on my laptop) sound isn't passed through to the headset, unless you unmute your computer, but then it's loud and slightly out of sync between the headset and computer. Hopefully it will just continue to get better. Thank you for your comment 👍

@@DayDreamerVR I can help with the sound issue. Same thing happened on my laptop and I was able to mute the laptop sound, but the headset would play the audio instead of the laptop speakers. I'm gonna also go check out the other update videos too.

@@TriMuXx No matter what I do I can't get the sound to come out of the headset only, and this happens with both the PICO 4 and Quest Pro. I have reported it a handful of times over about 6 months, and they say they are aware of this issue, but still no fix. I have to use headphones as a workaround. Hope you like the update video's, there are 2 about immersed 👍

@@TriMuXx Also, I'm not sure it is an immersed issue, could be a windows issue. I'll try and figure it out 🤔

@@DayDreamerVR I will let you know what steps I take on my Quest 2 Immersed setup at home with my laptop once I am out from work. It works perfectly for me. I'll reply back with the steps here in the comments.

Unfortunately you can't use immersed for pcvr. You can use it for flat screen gaming, but other apps do that better with lower latency. You could take a look at steam link in case that works, I did a guide here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psiRhc2SrdqnioE.html Virtual desktop or Alvr are other options, hope that helps 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thank you so much(/_;)/~~

Vspatial seems to be better than all but the main thing is it would be so nice if we could drag and drop and move the virtual monitors if our mouse and not the controller.

Could u make a video how to optimize the nvidia or windows to work along better with quest 2? I mean should I high something so that the vision get better its kinda blurry

I unfortunately haven't come across this as I only have one monitor, and that seems to detect it even if it is on standby. Are your monitors completely off or in standby? I'm trying to think of options but they all have compromises - a dummy plug would allow you to have no monitors on, but then if you want to use a monitor you have to reconnect it etc. Might be worth going on the immersed discord in case they have some advice/options. If I think of anything I reply again, hope you find a solution 👍

@@whoamit4642 The only thing I did was to add a 4k resolution dummy plug, that allows you to have a 4k resolution monitor in VR, that makes it slightly clearer, but I will consider a video and how to optimise it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR ty

Yes you can, but there may be limits on how many monitors, and how high the resolution of them can be in VR, which all depend on what your laptop can cope with 👍

@@DayDreamerVR I see..thank you so much on your reply..

I was using a Quest 2, but I now use the PICO 4 with Immersed, and it's working really well 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thank you!

It doesn't which is the amazing thing about it! It just passes the monitor feed across. It does need slightly more power than running a straight forward physical monitor, but it your PC can run multiple monitors, then it will likely work with Immersed 👍

Totally agree, it isn't really possible in immersed or workrooms. Immersed does show low latency, but it just cannot cope with a game stream for some reason. Steam VR could be another good option to then view your desktop/game 👍

Definitely, that's my conclusion in and from the video, I've been trying to use it on and off but keep coming across a number of issues, it's a great app, the best I have found, hopefully I'll be able to get past the issues, hope you liked the video 👍

What does your latency show as in the settings menu? I take it your pc is connected via ethernet? Could be worth going on the immersed discord as that lag is not normal. Hope you get it sorted 👍

You can use it for free with 3 screens. If you then use it for a small amount of time on consecutive days then you get the 5 screens for free. They have had options previously to buy the pro (5 screen) level, and even had it at one point if you bought their Visor headset. Most options are now subscription though unless you are happy with the free access

@@DayDreamerVR my issue is rather the low resolution of the screens, usually I set my screens to 8k or even 16k when using them in VR. The free version offers you 1080p, which is a bad joke for VR screens. Not sure if you unlock resolutions by usuage too, and not even the pro supports 8k/16k so it already is outperformed image quality wise. 4k would be the minimum which is limited to the pro version

@@DasJev all I would say is that it is worth working out how many pixels are in your view on a screen in VR. I did calculate it a while ago (sad I know) and I can't remember if that was comparing to the Q2 or PICO 4, but a 32 inch monitor in VR was slightly lower than 1920x1080 due to the resolution of the vr headset. Even a 4k vr headset is 4k for the whole of your view in one eye, so a monitor taking up part of that space will be less than 4k. Using higher resolutions will help slightly with aliasing/clarity, however the limits are currently the resolution of the vr headset, and not the resolutions in immersed. I think higher resolutions are included in their pro though, which you get access to free with consecutive days usage (over 15 mins per day). Their model does keep changing and isn't very clear which doesn't help

@@DayDreamerVR instead of calculating I would highly recommend to just try it. Text/Lines/UI/Images are a lot clearer and havr less/no shimmering left with high res settings. You can't just calculate based on headset res as you work with two overlaying rasters that are not congruent plus one is distorded which alone already requires additional source resolution for distortion correction. 1080p is maybe good enough for 720p VR Devices, but not for something like a pico, there 8k still does wonders and should be the default imo

@@DasJev I found 4k useful with the Q2, but not with the PICO 4. I wouldn't run multiple monitors at 8k. I have found that running 8k or more brought barely any improvement with a 4k per eye headset, and definitely not worth it considering the extra performance required to run it. I find 4k vr headset clear enough, and still won't be looking to use 8k for multiple monitors with it. This is unlikely to be a solution for you (pro has max of 4k per eye) . Hope you manage to find something else 👍

It is definitely in a better state now, so if you have a VR headset, it is worth giving immersed a go as it is free to use 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Yea I have Rift CV1 and Quest 2. Waiting for my Quest 3 to arrive, time to test then 😄

Is there a way to use a phone as a display then using a mini pc with a power bank like the MeLe quitter 3C to then connect a quest 3 without any monitor to setup anything?

@@zenobiooibonez5097 you could setup the mini pc to launch something like Parsec on initial boot, then connect with you phone to parsec to use it as a monitor. I don't know if the Quest 3 will connect whilst parsec is connected though 👍

Free version is pretty amazing. Dont even need to purchase. Personally $35 for all 5 screens isn’t toooo bad but I live with 3. Resolution isn’t terrible, but I’d pay $20 for high resolution